@dcarr said:
There will be only 100 of the MCMXXI Broken-Sword over-strikes. Once I get into the production, if any are converted to the "circulated" finish, any such pieces will be part of the 100 total.
Ordered my 2021 Broken Sword Roman Numeral overstrike yesterday but with as many of you ordering them I am concerned that I may miss out. If Dan excepted my order does that guarantee I'll get mine ?
@fiftysevener said:
Ordered my 2021 Broken Sword Roman Numeral overstrike yesterday but with as many of you ordering them I am concerned that I may miss out. If Dan excepted my order does that guarantee I'll get mine ?
I don't think you'll miss out. Dan's site is pretty good at preventing orders when an item is no longer available.
For this particular piece, I'm glad there's a limit of 1 per person and the price is high enough to discourage flipping. It means that collectors can get something special.
@fiftysevener said:
Ordered my 2021 Broken Sword Roman Numeral overstrike yesterday but with as many of you ordering them I am concerned that I may miss out. If Dan excepted my order does that guarantee I'll get mine ?
Any problem with your payment? That's the only thing I can imagine might cancel your order after its been accepted.
A far greater concern for me are mailbox thieves.
USPS also worries me a bit. But so far, they've been 100% reliable (knock on wood). It's also reassuring that the USPS route from Dan to me is easily tracked and very predictable.
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
Glad that I checked in the other day.
I ordered 'The Bolt Thrower Octagon Owl.
Have ordered one each year as soon as they're released, among other items.
2 of each year since the initial release.
@Will1960 said:
Glad that I checked in the other day.
I ordered 'The Bolt Thrower Octagon Owl.
Have ordered one each year as soon as they're released, among other items.
2 of each year since the initial release.
Ok, you guys twisted my arm on the Roman numeral Peace dollar struck over 1921 Peace Dollar, and I placed my order dutifully.
In the end, it would be nice to have just this one example, perhaps the pinnacle of all the fantasy Peace dollars, of Dan's creation from that original artist's plaster he found.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
@DCW said:
Ok, you guys twisted my arm on the Roman numeral Peace dollar struck over 1921 Peace Dollar, and I placed my order dutifully.
In the end, it would be nice to have just this one example, perhaps the pinnacle of all the fantasy Peace dollars, of Dan's creation from that original artist's plaster he found.
@jwitten said:
I’m on the fence about the 1921 peace... that’s a lot of cash! I saw a few of you saying you would buy extras if you could.... what are your thoughts?
I like it and I plan to keep mine for decades, like my other Moonlight Mint pieces
@jwitten said:
I’m on the fence about the 1921 peace... that’s a lot of cash! I saw a few of you saying you would buy extras if you could.... what are your thoughts?
it is a lot of money and was fence-sitting myself, but - like @zoins, and I'm sure many others - this is staying in my collection, and I think will compliment the us mint 2021 peace commem --- and the story behind it is 🤯 - def will be the most storied piece in my collection [so far]
I try to buy items I like in pairs.
In past I went thru a triples phase.
One is better than none.
@jwitten said:
I’m on the fence about the 1921 peace... that’s a lot of cash! I saw a few of you saying you would buy extras if you could.... what are your thoughts?
@jwitten said:
I’m on the fence about the 1921 peace... that’s a lot of cash! I saw a few of you saying you would buy extras if you could.... what are your thoughts?
Buy it,,,,,,, you will like it.
You know if you don't get one that you will regret it.
@Namvet69 said: @Zoins good eye my friend "2009" thin DC Proofed Overstrike. This thing is sweet. Peace Roy
Nice Peace! I recall this Peace caused quite a stir with collectors -- both in favor and not. I was not on this forum at the time so others can provide a bit of history. I think it also brought much attention to Carr's works and more collectors as he continued with several "new" issues in the series.
As was pointed out, the other Peace at the time was the precursor DP2 "thick DC" strike which seems to have totally evaporated as I've been looking for one for years without success.
Now what is REALLLY cool is the next in the series -- 2009-D Proof with the Weinman reverse.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser,and many OTHERS
@LindyS said:
I try to buy items I like in pairs.
In past I went thru a triples phase.
One is better than none.
@jwitten said:
I’m on the fence about the 1921 peace... that’s a lot of cash! I saw a few of you saying you would buy extras if you could.... what are your thoughts?
I agree @LindyS as I usually buy more than one if I like the design, and subsidize my collection purchases later with selling one off (often quite some time later). If priced too high that potential may not exist and sales may slump. Most businesses prefer to turn their inventory fast and repeatedly to keep cash flow moving. IMHO
The US Mint has created a compromise for popular issues by restricting sales for a short period for wide distribution initially, then dropping restrictions to promote sellout.
That said, it was still a no-brainer for the 21 Peace as I love the series and need this for set completion. The two-ouncer Peace is a good "poor mans" version.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser,and many OTHERS
@Akbeez said:
As was pointed out, the other Peace at the time was the precursor DP2 "thick DC" strike which seems to have totally evaporated as I've been looking for one for years without success.
I picked mine up in 2017 (and it wasn't cheap). I had been looking for awhile at that point, and I haven't seen one since.
@Akbeez so I read all the correspondence between parties concerning opinions on Dan Carrs work product. He represented himself extremely well IMHO. And so it goes that we continue to collect and enjoy his craft. Peace Roy
@Namvet69 said: @Zoins good eye my friend "2009" thin DC Proofed Overstrike. This thing is sweet. Peace Roy
Nice Peace! I recall this Peace caused quite a stir with collectors -- both in favor and not. I was not on this forum at the time so others can provide a bit of history. I think it also brought much attention to Carr's works and more collectors as he continued with several "new" issues in the series.
As was pointed out, the other Peace at the time was the precursor DP2 "thick DC" strike which seems to have totally evaporated as I've been looking for one for years without success.
Now what is REALLLY cool is the next in the series -- 2009-D Proof with the Weinman reverse.
I had been looking for the thick DC for years also, not now. I have given my daughter my 2 set 1-uncurculate and one proof.
As far as the 2009 here's what I have.
2009-DC by the Moonlight Mint (Thin DC) and the 2009 w/ Weiman Reverse
Less the 1995-W
The following is very interesting! Check your bronze pieces for additional edge markings and post-strike finish!
1) Edge marked “DEC 2020” and “BRONZE” (positioning varies). Some have additional (redundant) edge markings.
11 have a post-strike “bulk-handled” finish.
The "sold out" notation below the $360 price was premature. I had done a cut/paste from a previous section and it should have been edited out (now corrected).
The dies are ready and I will be producing these in the next few days. The quantity that I made available as inventory in my store was 75. Those 75 have now sold. The reasons that I did not put the full 100 in my store inventory are as follows:
Until I make them, I won't know how many (if any) will be converted to the "circulated" finish.
Some were reserved by local long-time customers who buy from me at shows, coin club meetings, etc.
I usually keep a few for my own reference collection.
At some unannounced time I may have a few more to list on my store (high-grade and/or circulated). Due to the demand and limited availability, these last few (if any) will likely be priced somewhat higher.
The following is very interesting! Check your bronze pieces for additional edge markings and post-strike finish!
1) Edge marked “DEC 2020” and “BRONZE” (positioning varies). Some have additional (redundant) edge markings.
11 have a post-strike “bulk-handled” finish.
The "bulk handled" specimens are "rejects" that I handed out to local friends, etc.
PS:
I have found that bronze does not behave nearly as well as silver when melting, pouring, rolling and punching.
So a number of the bronze "Stairs" medals had planchet defects (the most severe ones were melted, the moderate ones were given away locally, and the minor ones were sold).
The "bulk handled" specimens are "rejects" that I handed out to local friends, etc.
PS:
I have found that bronze does not behave nearly as well as silver when melting, pouring, rolling and punching.
So a number of the bronze "Stairs" medals had planchet defects (the most severe ones were melted, the moderate ones were given away locally, and the minor ones were sold).
The "bulk handled" specimens are "rejects" that I handed out to local friends, etc.
PS:
I have found that bronze does not behave nearly as well as silver when melting, pouring, rolling and punching.
So a number of the bronze "Stairs" medals had planchet defects (the most severe ones were melted, the moderate ones were given away locally, and the minor ones were sold).
I need to move to Colorado . . . . .
Z
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I just contacted Zillow about the Denver area....
I have a bronze that features the word "BRONZE" struck into two different edges (as well as "DEC 2020"). I assume that extra "BRONZE" striking might be an example of the "additional (redundant) edge marking" mentioned in the product description.
@PipestonePete said:
I have a bronze that features the word "BRONZE" struck into two different edges (as well as "DEC 2020"). I assume that extra "BRONZE" striking might be an example of the "additional (redundant) edge marking" mentioned in the product description.
Yes, that is one of the "additional (redundant)" markings. It was completely random as to which individual medal was shipped to each buyer.
But with a total mintage of 39 (bronze), they are all rare
I have found that bronze does not behave nearly as well as silver when melting, pouring, rolling and punching.
So a number of the bronze "Stairs" medals had planchet defects (the most severe ones were melted, the moderate ones were given away locally, and the minor ones were sold).
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Mine has some "gravitational anomalies" mentioned above. Is this one considered a minor "bulk handled" piece?
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OMG, sign me up for the circulated finish too!
There is a "Make Offer" button
They are both good to me. I like the Wilson Dollar, but also appreciate the Battle of Lake Erie subject matter.
Ordered my 2021 Broken Sword Roman Numeral overstrike yesterday but with as many of you ordering them I am concerned that I may miss out. If Dan excepted my order does that guarantee I'll get mine ?
I don't think you'll miss out. Dan's site is pretty good at preventing orders when an item is no longer available.
For this particular piece, I'm glad there's a limit of 1 per person and the price is high enough to discourage flipping. It means that collectors can get something special.
Any problem with your payment? That's the only thing I can imagine might cancel your order after its been accepted.
A far greater concern for me are mailbox thieves.
USPS also worries me a bit. But so far, they've been 100% reliable (knock on wood). It's also reassuring that the USPS route from Dan to me is easily tracked and very predictable.
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
Daniel is an awesome businessman, artist.
I am certain he'll make your order right.
Relax, its all good.
Glad that I checked in the other day.
I ordered 'The Bolt Thrower Octagon Owl.
Have ordered one each year as soon as they're released, among other items.
2 of each year since the initial release.
The Bolt Thrower Octagon is on my order too
Ok, you guys twisted my arm on the Roman numeral Peace dollar struck over 1921 Peace Dollar, and I placed my order dutifully.
In the end, it would be nice to have just this one example, perhaps the pinnacle of all the fantasy Peace dollars, of Dan's creation from that original artist's plaster he found.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
picked up the 1921 peace dollar o/s and the jan escher steps - can not WAIT to see these in hand 🖐👀
edited to say I now - after purchasing 😂 - read the story on the listing and ... my god - this is going to be an incredible piece
would love to know more about how they did scaling down of plasters back in the day if anyone has a good link accessible
You won't regret it.
If you do, Stef and I are just a PM away
2019 Daniel Carr Glendale Coin Silver Pacific Railway Completion
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Love the obverse!
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
I’m on the fence about the 1921 peace... that’s a lot of cash! I saw a few of you saying you would buy extras if you could.... what are your thoughts?
I like it and I plan to keep mine for decades, like my other Moonlight Mint pieces
it is a lot of money and was fence-sitting myself, but - like @zoins, and I'm sure many others - this is staying in my collection, and I think will compliment the us mint 2021 peace commem --- and the story behind it is 🤯 - def will be the most storied piece in my collection [so far]
I try to buy items I like in pairs.
In past I went thru a triples phase.
One is better than none.
Buy it,,,,,,, you will like it.
You know if you don't get one that you will regret it.
I don't often get to be a tease but......guess what I got? Peace Roy
BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon
Looks like a V76 Silver Eagle?
That or a 2009-DC Proofed Silver Eagle?
@Zoins good eye my friend "2009" thin DC Proofed Overstrike. This thing is sweet. Peace Roy
BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon
Awesome! That's a classic
It's weird how rare the thick type is, given a mintage of 368.
Fortunately Dan Carr's website lays it all out in detail. It also came in a nice boxed hinged wood case. Peace Roy
BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon
Nice Peace! I recall this Peace caused quite a stir with collectors -- both in favor and not. I was not on this forum at the time so others can provide a bit of history. I think it also brought much attention to Carr's works and more collectors as he continued with several "new" issues in the series.
As was pointed out, the other Peace at the time was the precursor DP2 "thick DC" strike which seems to have totally evaporated as I've been looking for one for years without success.
Now what is REALLLY cool is the next in the series -- 2009-D Proof with the Weinman reverse.
I agree @LindyS as I usually buy more than one if I like the design, and subsidize my collection purchases later with selling one off (often quite some time later). If priced too high that potential may not exist and sales may slump. Most businesses prefer to turn their inventory fast and repeatedly to keep cash flow moving. IMHO
The US Mint has created a compromise for popular issues by restricting sales for a short period for wide distribution initially, then dropping restrictions to promote sellout.
That said, it was still a no-brainer for the 21 Peace as I love the series and need this for set completion. The two-ouncer Peace is a good "poor mans" version.
I picked mine up in 2017 (and it wasn't cheap). I had been looking for awhile at that point, and I haven't seen one since.
First purchases of the New Year. 21 Union, 21 Octagon Owl, and the 21 Peace Dollar. Mr Carr, your work is exquisite.
@Akbeez so I read all the correspondence between parties concerning opinions on Dan Carrs work product. He represented himself extremely well IMHO. And so it goes that we continue to collect and enjoy his craft. Peace Roy
BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon
I had been looking for the thick DC for years also, not now. I have given my daughter my 2 set 1-uncurculate and one proof.
As far as the 2009 here's what I have.
2009-DC by the Moonlight Mint (Thin DC) and the 2009 w/ Weiman Reverse
Less the 1995-W
INYNWHWeTrust-TexasNationals,ajaan,blu62vette
coinJP, Outhaul ,illini420,MICHAELDIXON, Fade to Black,epcjimi1,19Lyds,SNMAN,JerseyJoe, bigjpst, DMWJR , lordmarcovan, Weiss,Mfriday4962,UtahCoin,Downtown1974,pitboss,RichieURich,Bullsitter,JDsCoins,toyz4geo,jshaulis, mustanggt, SNMAN
Nice to see them playing nicely together. Kinda drawn to the rev proof. Peace Roy
BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon
Hmmm, I was curious who started this thread. Whaddaya know . . . .
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
How about that October 7, 2016 10:49PM date & time
INYNWHWeTrust-TexasNationals,ajaan,blu62vette
coinJP, Outhaul ,illini420,MICHAELDIXON, Fade to Black,epcjimi1,19Lyds,SNMAN,JerseyJoe, bigjpst, DMWJR , lordmarcovan, Weiss,Mfriday4962,UtahCoin,Downtown1974,pitboss,RichieURich,Bullsitter,JDsCoins,toyz4geo,jshaulis, mustanggt, SNMAN
Final mintage on the December 13 Steps
Bronze-39
Silver-54
Here's the catalog link:
http://www.moonlightmint.com/dc-coin_hard_times_list.htm
The following is very interesting! Check your bronze pieces for additional edge markings and post-strike finish!
Standard bronze here.
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
The 1921 High Relief Peace is not longer available on the site, and shows "sold out" here: http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_19.htm
siiiick! my dec 2020 just shipped today - feel lucky to've gotten in under the wire on that one; and the 1921 o/s - phew! 😄
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I'm surprised it took so long.
Very glad I ordered one. Probably will be THE key overstrike in Carr Peace dollars.
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Here is a production update:
The "sold out" notation below the $360 price was premature. I had done a cut/paste from a previous section and it should have been edited out (now corrected).
The dies are ready and I will be producing these in the next few days. The quantity that I made available as inventory in my store was 75. Those 75 have now sold. The reasons that I did not put the full 100 in my store inventory are as follows:
At some unannounced time I may have a few more to list on my store (high-grade and/or circulated). Due to the demand and limited availability, these last few (if any) will likely be priced somewhat higher.
USS COLORADO Trio
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👀
The question now becomes, who DID NOT buy the MCMXXI BS?
The "bulk handled" specimens are "rejects" that I handed out to local friends, etc.
PS:
I have found that bronze does not behave nearly as well as silver when melting, pouring, rolling and punching.
So a number of the bronze "Stairs" medals had planchet defects (the most severe ones were melted, the moderate ones were given away locally, and the minor ones were sold).
I need to move to Colorado . . . . .
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
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I just contacted Zillow about the Denver area....
I have a bronze that features the word "BRONZE" struck into two different edges (as well as "DEC 2020"). I assume that extra "BRONZE" striking might be an example of the "additional (redundant) edge marking" mentioned in the product description.
Yes, that is one of the "additional (redundant)" markings. It was completely random as to which individual medal was shipped to each buyer.
But with a total mintage of 39 (bronze), they are all rare
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.
Mine has some "gravitational anomalies" mentioned above. Is this one considered a minor "bulk handled" piece?
Z
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
For me,
beginning with 1964D Peace years ago & now the ending of the run with MCMXXI fantasy, its been a fun ride !!!
Had the house hold account limit been unlimited, I am not sure what I would have done ???
When I first became aware of it I have always loved the MCMXXI Peace !!!
Dan, will I be able to order a circulated MCMXXI Peace Dollar if I've already ordered the high-grade version?
Yes or no, I'm good either way.
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