End of World War II 75th Anniversary American Eagle Silver Proof (20XF) & Gold Proof Coin (20XE)

Bigbuck1975 · November 20, 2020 5:42AM

It’s there and gone in under 2 seconds. I don’t think a human can be that quick!!

Onedollarnohollar · November 20, 2020 5:43AM

was refreshing at 4:40 didn't see anything come up for the ase v75

jskillz95 · November 20, 2020 5:43AM

Yep, at 0540 MST it flipped. The item I was trying to get did not flip but then I checked my wish list and saw some unavailable items became available like the Mayflower items

dmwest · November 20, 2020 5:43AM

7:40 and gone in less than a second

eCoinquest · November 20, 2020 5:44AM

The mayflower coins are available again. Gold flashed for a second and was gone.

Mgarmy · November 20, 2020 5:44AM

Kliao, same thing two days in a row it flips red and then the add to button does not work

Batman23 · November 20, 2020 5:45AM

I didn't see anything but a hesitation on a refresh. Posting at that same minute probably didn't help either!

92vette · November 20, 2020 5:46AM

20EH came available at 740, cannot believe it sold out yesterday. Still there.

Kliao · November 20, 2020 5:46AM

The mayflower gold are available again. And the UNC gold eagle from yesterday too.

sj5150 · November 20, 2020 5:46AM

Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Kliao · November 20, 2020 5:48AM

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Well I did have it in my cart until the mint booted it yesterday for some reason.

Raufus · November 20, 2020 5:49AM

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

Bigbuck1975 · November 20, 2020 5:49AM

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

With it in your cart your odds climb to 0.01%!

pf70collector · November 20, 2020 5:50AM

Saw nothing at 7:40. I still have in bag.

ECHOES · November 20, 2020 5:50AM

Nothing changed for me, Silver V75 still in bag.
Are you in checkout when refreshing?

Onedollarnohollar · November 20, 2020 5:51AM

so, if we're not getting them who is?

pf70collector · November 20, 2020 5:51AM

Yes. In checkout.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · November 20, 2020 5:52AM

@Onedollarnohollar said:
so, if we're not getting them who is?

👋🤖

jmlanzaf · November 20, 2020 5:52AM

@ECHOES said:
Nothing changed for me, Silver V75 still in bag.
Are you in checkout when refreshing?

I put a RP Mayflower coin in the cart. Then you can see when it becomes available. The gold Mayflower issues are the ones that almost definitely become available so I use it as a bellwether for the catalog update.

CoinMeister · November 20, 2020 5:53AM

My guess is they have the coin pop on a timer and unless there is one available in inventory, it immediately kicks back off again giving no chance to place an order. Kinda like a failsafe. The different times are just annoying, however.

Batman23 · November 20, 2020 5:54AM

I would like to put one back into the bag. I see a lot of the recent gold is still available right now.
I just don't understand how the window is so small for so many days. Toying with us? There just aren't that many of these remaining unsold.

sj5150 · November 20, 2020 5:54AM

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

I was literally refreshing once per second at 7:40 with the coin in my cart. All info is pre-filled for me. I saw the coin flip and pressed the check to buy and then placed order. Nope. Gone. In under a second. That's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt that there are at least 5+ bots all trying to place the order. The coin is gone in the moment it takes me to move my mouse, press the check, and move it again to press place order. Thats <0.6 seconds. I don't know how many coins are left; I'd estimate <15.

So for those that don't have a coin in their cart already, you need to press add, then go to your cart, then do all the address, then billing address, then credit card, then review, then check mark, then place order.

Yea good luck with that.

Raufus · November 20, 2020 5:57AM

@sj5150 said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

I was literally refreshing once per second at 7:40 with the coin in my cart. All info is pre-filled for me. I saw the coin flip and pressed the check to buy and then placed order. Nope. Gone. In under a second. That's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt that there are at least 5+ bots all trying to place the order. The coin is gone in the moment it takes me to move my mouse, press the check, and move it again to press place order. Thats <0.6 seconds. I don't know how many coins are left; I'd estimate <15.

So for those that don't have a coin in their cart already, you need to press add, then go to your cart, then do all the address, then billing address, then credit card, then review, then check mark, then place order.

Yea good luck with that.

Wow. Thanks for the note. Bots are just killing it for the collectors. Wonder when it will change to sold out.

ECHOES · November 20, 2020 5:58AM

@sj5150 said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

I was literally refreshing once per second at 7:40 with the coin in my cart. All info is pre-filled for me. I saw the coin flip and pressed the check to buy and then placed order. Nope. Gone. In under a second. That's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt that there are at least 5+ bots all trying to place the order. The coin is gone in the moment it takes me to move my mouse, press the check, and move it again to press place order. Thats <0.6 seconds. I don't know how many coins are left; I'd estimate <15.

So for those that don't have a coin in their cart already, you need to press add, then go to your cart, then do all the address, then billing address, then credit card, then review, then check mark, then place order.

Yea good luck with that.

This...

Refreshing at same rate, I saw nothing change...

Batman23 · November 20, 2020 6:00AM

Is there a way to find out how many were sold on each day for the last week?

Batman23 · November 20, 2020 6:05AM

OK, how do you guys see so many options at the same second? Different screens? If you have two items in your cart and one does not flip you can't check out so that is no good right? Now that my cart was emptied yesterday I am looking at the product page waiting for the "remind me" box to disappear. I can only focus on one item at a time. What screen are you guys looking at?

Kliao · November 20, 2020 6:12AM

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

I was literally refreshing once per second at 7:40 with the coin in my cart. All info is pre-filled for me. I saw the coin flip and pressed the check to buy and then placed order. Nope. Gone. In under a second. That's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt that there are at least 5+ bots all trying to place the order. The coin is gone in the moment it takes me to move my mouse, press the check, and move it again to press place order. Thats <0.6 seconds. I don't know how many coins are left; I'd estimate <15.

So for those that don't have a coin in their cart already, you need to press add, then go to your cart, then do all the address, then billing address, then credit card, then review, then check mark, then place order.

Yea good luck with that.

Wow. Thanks for the note. Bots are just killing it for the collectors. Wonder when it will change to sold out.

Hopefully not until all of us get one.

SONOMOSCA · November 20, 2020 6:19AM

I can hit the place order button, move onto the please wait message then automatically get kicked back to the previous page. So even with the AGE still in my cart, it's pretty much useless. Maybe I'll get lucky today and the Mint can make it disappear from my cart so I can be done. LOL

OKCC · November 20, 2020 6:24AM

@Batman23 said:
OK, how do you guys see so many options at the same second? Different screens? If you have two items in your cart and one does not flip you can't check out so that is no good right? Now that my cart was emptied yesterday I am looking at the product page waiting for the "remind me" box to disappear. I can only focus on one item at a time. What screen are you guys looking at?

Yeah, Riddle me this^

coiner · November 20, 2020 6:44AM

IDK - but it seems like many people are getting to "Place Order" and even "Order Processing"; so it appears that it is just which order gets thru first....I dont think BOTS have an advantage in this scenario
I also think the time changes are screwing up the BOTS, unless they are checking "always"

coiner · November 20, 2020 6:46AM

If the USM just put more than 1 available - there would be many more successes on this forum; at least this group of people
Id really like to know how many people are actually playing this game every morning - 10? 100? 200?
I happen to think less than 100

ECHOES · November 20, 2020 6:51AM

At the very least ME, LOL

coiner · November 20, 2020 6:54AM

If there is approx 25-30 left; I think the remaining members here should be able to put a dent in it
If offered at once

ECHOES · November 20, 2020 6:57AM

@coiner said:
If there is approx 25-30 left; I think the remaining members here should be able to put a dent in it
If offered at once

Silver / Gold? V75

jmlanzaf · November 20, 2020 6:58AM

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

I was literally refreshing once per second at 7:40 with the coin in my cart. All info is pre-filled for me. I saw the coin flip and pressed the check to buy and then placed order. Nope. Gone. In under a second. That's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt that there are at least 5+ bots all trying to place the order. The coin is gone in the moment it takes me to move my mouse, press the check, and move it again to press place order. Thats <0.6 seconds. I don't know how many coins are left; I'd estimate <15.

So for those that don't have a coin in their cart already, you need to press add, then go to your cart, then do all the address, then billing address, then credit card, then review, then check mark, then place order.

Yea good luck with that.

Wow. Thanks for the note. Bots are just killing it for the collectors. Wonder when it will change to sold out.

I don't think you can conclude that there are bots involved. There might well be 100 humans with a coin in cart who all hit buy at the same time and were all competed for 1 or 2 coins released. The fact that sj5150 didn't get one doesn't mean someone was faster, it just means that there were 100 people chasing the same coin.

jmlanzaf · November 20, 2020 7:01AM

@coiner said:
If the USM just put more than 1 available - there would be many more successes on this forum; at least this group of people
Id really like to know how many people are actually playing this game every morning - 10? 100? 200?
I happen to think less than 100

It's hard to know, because it isn't just people on this forum. There were over 300,000 people trying to buy them on the first minute of the first day. 95% of those have never heard of this forum. So if there are a dozen people on this forum doing this at 7:30 a.m EST, there might well be several hundred others.

jmlanzaf · November 20, 2020 7:02AM

@Batman23 said:
OK, how do you guys see so many options at the same second? Different screens? If you have two items in your cart and one does not flip you can't check out so that is no good right? Now that my cart was emptied yesterday I am looking at the product page waiting for the "remind me" box to disappear. I can only focus on one item at a time. What screen are you guys looking at?

You can open multiple browser windows, one on each page of interest. I was watching 6 items today.

OKCC · November 20, 2020 7:04AM

@coiner said:
If the USM just put more than 1 available - there would be many more successes on this forum; at least this group of people
Id really like to know how many people are actually playing this game every morning - 10? 100? 200?
I happen to think less than 100

The truth lies in what is NOT seen, and NOT heard. What humans will do when they think they smell money is, well....
Could be 1,000's trying.

jmlanzaf · November 20, 2020 7:04AM

By the way, the other thing that's worth considering is whether there were NONE available today. Isn't it possible that it just blinks to red (Add to Bag) when it is doing the catalog update and that the underlying number was always zero?

Batman23 · November 20, 2020 7:16AM

@jmlanzaf said:
By the way, the other thing that's worth considering is whether there were NONE available today. Isn't it possible that it just blinks to red (Add to Bag) when it is doing the catalog update and that the underlying number was always zero?

This is what I was wondering as well. If someone could find out how many have been released each day over the last week that would be quite telling.

Batman23 · November 20, 2020 7:19AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@Batman23 said:
OK, how do you guys see so many options at the same second? Different screens? If you have two items in your cart and one does not flip you can't check out so that is no good right? Now that my cart was emptied yesterday I am looking at the product page waiting for the "remind me" box to disappear. I can only focus on one item at a time. What screen are you guys looking at?

You can open multiple browser windows, one on each page of interest. I was watching 6 items today.

But don't you have to click on each tab and hit refresh in sequence? Sounds like a few extra seconds when one second means so much. Are you seeing all 6 screens at one time? I'm playing with a single full screen view on a single monitor.

ECHOES · November 20, 2020 7:22AM

@jmlanzaf said:
By the way, the other thing that's worth considering is whether there were NONE available today. Isn't it possible that it just blinks to red (Add to Bag) when it is doing the catalog update and that the underlying number was always zero?

That would explain why nothing changed, at least for me, at checkout.

DelawareDoons · November 20, 2020 7:23AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

I was literally refreshing once per second at 7:40 with the coin in my cart. All info is pre-filled for me. I saw the coin flip and pressed the check to buy and then placed order. Nope. Gone. In under a second. That's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt that there are at least 5+ bots all trying to place the order. The coin is gone in the moment it takes me to move my mouse, press the check, and move it again to press place order. Thats <0.6 seconds. I don't know how many coins are left; I'd estimate <15.

So for those that don't have a coin in their cart already, you need to press add, then go to your cart, then do all the address, then billing address, then credit card, then review, then check mark, then place order.

Yea good luck with that.

Wow. Thanks for the note. Bots are just killing it for the collectors. Wonder when it will change to sold out.

I don't think you can conclude that there are bots involved. There might well be 100 humans with a coin in cart who all hit buy at the same time and were all competed for 1 or 2 coins released. The fact that sj5150 didn't get one doesn't mean someone was faster, it just means that there were 100 people chasing the same coin.

There. Are. Bots. Involved.

I know for a fact.

jmlanzaf · November 20, 2020 7:26AM

@Batman23 said:

@jmlanzaf said:
By the way, the other thing that's worth considering is whether there were NONE available today. Isn't it possible that it just blinks to red (Add to Bag) when it is doing the catalog update and that the underlying number was always zero?

This is what I was wondering as well. If someone could find out how many have been released each day over the last week that would be quite telling.

@DelawareDoons said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

I was literally refreshing once per second at 7:40 with the coin in my cart. All info is pre-filled for me. I saw the coin flip and pressed the check to buy and then placed order. Nope. Gone. In under a second. That's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt that there are at least 5+ bots all trying to place the order. The coin is gone in the moment it takes me to move my mouse, press the check, and move it again to press place order. Thats <0.6 seconds. I don't know how many coins are left; I'd estimate <15.

So for those that don't have a coin in their cart already, you need to press add, then go to your cart, then do all the address, then billing address, then credit card, then review, then check mark, then place order.

Yea good luck with that.

Wow. Thanks for the note. Bots are just killing it for the collectors. Wonder when it will change to sold out.

I don't think you can conclude that there are bots involved. There might well be 100 humans with a coin in cart who all hit buy at the same time and were all competed for 1 or 2 coins released. The fact that sj5150 didn't get one doesn't mean someone was faster, it just means that there were 100 people chasing the same coin.

There. Are. Bots. Involved.

I know for a fact.

I'm sure there are some. What i was trying to say is you can't conclude that your failure to execute a trade means you lost to a bot.

jmlanzaf · November 20, 2020 7:27AM

@Batman23 said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Batman23 said:
OK, how do you guys see so many options at the same second? Different screens? If you have two items in your cart and one does not flip you can't check out so that is no good right? Now that my cart was emptied yesterday I am looking at the product page waiting for the "remind me" box to disappear. I can only focus on one item at a time. What screen are you guys looking at?

You can open multiple browser windows, one on each page of interest. I was watching 6 items today.

But don't you have to click on each tab and hit refresh in sequence? Sounds like a few extra seconds when one second means so much. Are you seeing all 6 screens at one time? I'm playing with a single full screen view on a single monitor.

Yes, you have to click them all. But I just do it in order of "importance". I also have a Mayflower gold in the cart as a bellwether. As soon as it is available, I know they did the catalog update.

Raufus · November 20, 2020 7:31AM

@Kliao said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:

@Raufus said:

@sj5150 said:
Honestly, if you dont have the coin in your cart already, you have zero chance of buying it at this point.

Sounds like someone did and couldn't check out?

I was literally refreshing once per second at 7:40 with the coin in my cart. All info is pre-filled for me. I saw the coin flip and pressed the check to buy and then placed order. Nope. Gone. In under a second. That's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt that there are at least 5+ bots all trying to place the order. The coin is gone in the moment it takes me to move my mouse, press the check, and move it again to press place order. Thats <0.6 seconds. I don't know how many coins are left; I'd estimate <15.

So for those that don't have a coin in their cart already, you need to press add, then go to your cart, then do all the address, then billing address, then credit card, then review, then check mark, then place order.

Yea good luck with that.

Wow. Thanks for the note. Bots are just killing it for the collectors. Wonder when it will change to sold out.

Hopefully not until all of us get one.

Absolutely!!!!! Hugely rooting for u guys!!!

Mgarmy · November 20, 2020 7:42AM

The going theory that there are actually none left explains why even when flipped I could not add to cart. It just stays on that screen and the button does not work

ECHOES · November 20, 2020 7:45AM

Might be close to sell out...

hammer1 · November 20, 2020 7:55AM

Left coast here.

I only got up once at 4:30 AM to check.

So glad I made that decision not to get up early anymore.

SONOMOSCA · November 20, 2020 8:06AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@Batman23 said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Batman23 said:
OK, how do you guys see so many options at the same second? Different screens? If you have two items in your cart and one does not flip you can't check out so that is no good right? Now that my cart was emptied yesterday I am looking at the product page waiting for the "remind me" box to disappear. I can only focus on one item at a time. What screen are you guys looking at?

You can open multiple browser windows, one on each page of interest. I was watching 6 items today.

But don't you have to click on each tab and hit refresh in sequence? Sounds like a few extra seconds when one second means so much. Are you seeing all 6 screens at one time? I'm playing with a single full screen view on a single monitor.

Yes, you have to click them all. But I just do it in order of "importance". I also have a Mayflower gold in the cart as a bellwether. As soon as it is available, I know they did the catalog update.

If I'm understanding this correctly, wouldn't the Mayflower need to be made available seconds (1 to 2) sooner in order for you to move on to the AGE/ASE V75 page and then refresh to show available and then proceed with checkout? It seems like this approach would prolong the time to get to checkout. I must be missing something.

End of World War II 75th Anniversary American Eagle Silver Proof (20XF) & Gold Proof Coin (20XE)

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