Partrick 2021

Wow!

For those who don't want to scroll through 72 pages, here is a text list:
https://www.ngccoin.com/gallery/partrick/all/

@yosclimber said:
Wow, so many great coins.

It seems like he never bothered to clear out the dups, so it's approaching a "hoard" on some issues,
like the St. Patrick's. Did he think it was St. Partrick?

I wonder if there are unattributed varieties. He appeared to have a pine tree shilling set by Noe numbers.

Auction schedule https://ha.com/information/donald-partrick-collection.s?type=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ngccoin.com%2Fgallery%2Fpartrick%2F%3Fpage%3D1

I imagine John at CRO is salivating.

Amazing collection

Some of these pieces are rare enough that I don't know how rare they are.

Has anyone made a short list of series where this collection contains all or nearly all known examples?

What a sad commentary on the hobby many of the replies in this thread are, so many more worried about the plastic than what is in the plastic.

I wonder how he got all of these past the wife? Was he ever questioned on another 1787 Draped Bust Left Connecticut Copper? I could use some tips from him!

@AUandAG said:
I don't understand the reasoning behind having so many of one coin. A couple in different grades, I see that, but he was nuts over "trees" and NE's and plows......etc
However, I'm sure it will bring piles of cash when sold.

bob

I feel the same about Morgan dollar collectors 😉🙂

Couldn’t he have just bought them in any holder, and either crossed them, or had them graded at NGC? Doesn’t seem too tough to me.

@Boosibri said:
Amazing collection

I remember the multiple NE Shillings from the 1st sale in 2015, when the rest of the collection was to follow, then delayed. Mr. Partrick loved coins.

i remember meeting Mr Partrick many years ago at a NY real estate convention when he talked about the state of NY real estate. After that talk, I again met him at a coin auction auction in NY a few years later. We talked a bit about coins, NY real estate and some small talk. Never knew the extent of his collection until it was offered in auction. Pretty special coin memory .

I also believe he never sold a single coin while he was collecting .

A couple of comments. Don Partrick was buying coins long before the NGC or PCGS came around. As for the Connecticuts, his collection by die variety is about as complete as one could hope to put together. Many are finest known, and virtually all are Condition Census.

@tradedollarnut said:
It won’t matter when the entire collection is once through fresh at NGC. See the Newman results if you doubt that.

Wasn't Newman mostly CACed?

P.S. How did Laura's surgery go?

@cameonut2011 said:

@Gazes said:

@coinbuf said:

@Gazes said:

@coinbuf said:
What a sad commentary on the hobby many of the replies in this thread are, so many more worried about the plastic than what is in the plastic.

It is extremely unusual to see a collection of this magnitude in an all NGC collection. I think it is fair to comment on this and also question why the collector chose this path. Even your signature line says you never choose one brand of "plastic" exclusively. Its fair to wonder why this collector did the opposite of what your signature line suggests.

I stopped wondering why collectors chase plastic long ago, its a fools errand. It only seems unusual to you because its not your choice of plastic, otherwise you would not give the choice a second thought. I have no doubt that there is a reason why this path was chosen, and its not up to me or you or anyone to question it. Would you question or comment on the path if it was your singular choice of TPG instead of another?

You question others choice of a TPG when it is exclusive to our host so Im not sure why you say "its not up to me or you or anyone to question it." (You bring up the issue of types of plastic in every post you make by the nature of your signature line) Any collector can collect how they want but when they sell it is fair on this forum to raise the issue that it is exclusively in NGC slabs. PCGS coins seem to generally bring more money and it is worth discussing why this seller went a different route.

I agree with the coins matter more than the plastic, but given the PCGS premium is typically greater for many of these than average it does raise eyebrows. It makes you wonder if he was hoping to take advantage of grading that is a bit more liberal. If he doesn't submit these to CAC either, I'd bet this is the strategy.

I’m pretty sure CAC no longer accepts colonials but I also doubt the coins were submitted to NGC on the basis of more liberal grading.

@Gazes said:

@coinbuf said:

@Gazes said:

@coinbuf said:
What a sad commentary on the hobby many of the replies in this thread are, so many more worried about the plastic than what is in the plastic.

It is extremely unusual to see a collection of this magnitude in an all NGC collection. I think it is fair to comment on this and also question why the collector chose this path. Even your signature line says you never choose one brand of "plastic" exclusively. Its fair to wonder why this collector did the opposite of what your signature line suggests.

I stopped wondering why collectors chase plastic long ago, its a fools errand. It only seems unusual to you because its not your choice of plastic, otherwise you would not give the choice a second thought. I have no doubt that there is a reason why this path was chosen, and its not up to me or you or anyone to question it. Would you question or comment on the path if it was your singular choice of TPG instead of another?

You question others choice of a TPG when it is exclusive to our host so Im not sure why you say "its not up to me or you or anyone to question it." (You bring up the issue of types of plastic in every post you make by the nature of your signature line) Any collector can collect how they want but when they sell it is fair on this forum to raise the issue that it is exclusively in NGC slabs. PCGS coins seem to generally bring more money and it is worth discussing why this seller went a different route.

Please read what I wrote before you post, I said "I stopped wondering why collectors chase plastic long ago". I don't question these choices anymore, I do get a chuckle at plastic followers because I find it funny that the plastic matters more to some than anything in the holder. But I don't really care at all its not my money so chase away. And now back on point I would think that as advanced as you seem to think you are; you would be able to figure out why it might be to the advantage financially to a collector when choosing one service over another, its a business decision. You must be aware that for large collections like this there are negotiations that take place.

And your not having a discussion its more like a mob rule thing. You won't be able to get the other side of the story (which could answer the question why), because the submitter is not here to state the reason. Instead as usual a few here will throw around a bunch of assumptions, guesses, sling mud and cry and whine about why anyone would do this because it is not the way they think it should be done.

@cameonut2011 said:
I agree with the coins matter more than the plastic, but given the PCGS premium is typically greater for many of these than average it does raise eyebrows. It makes you wonder if he was hoping to take advantage of grading that is a bit more liberal. If he doesn't submit these to CAC either, I'd bet this is the strategy.

When was the last time you submitted coins to NGC? How do you know that that service is grading liberally now? My experience with my last two submissions doesn't give me that impression. I understand that some of the market is firmly entrenched in thinking that one brand brings a higher price, which then helps that very thing to occur as a result of pressuring the market.

Since all we are doing is guessing it is possible that the submitter considers the choice of TPG to be the better choice for grading this type of material. Perhaps the submitter thinks that the material will speak for itself and the choice of plastic will not have a material affect on the end prices. Logistics could be a factor as this is a large number (and value) of coins. I can think of numerous reasons why this choice could make sense, but its unlikely that I nor anyone else here will ever know for certain why.

@Ablinky said:

@cameonut2011 said:

@Gazes said:

@coinbuf said:

@Gazes said:

@coinbuf said:
What a sad commentary on the hobby many of the replies in this thread are, so many more worried about the plastic than what is in the plastic.

It is extremely unusual to see a collection of this magnitude in an all NGC collection. I think it is fair to comment on this and also question why the collector chose this path. Even your signature line says you never choose one brand of "plastic" exclusively. Its fair to wonder why this collector did the opposite of what your signature line suggests.

I stopped wondering why collectors chase plastic long ago, its a fools errand. It only seems unusual to you because its not your choice of plastic, otherwise you would not give the choice a second thought. I have no doubt that there is a reason why this path was chosen, and its not up to me or you or anyone to question it. Would you question or comment on the path if it was your singular choice of TPG instead of another?

You question others choice of a TPG when it is exclusive to our host so Im not sure why you say "its not up to me or you or anyone to question it." (You bring up the issue of types of plastic in every post you make by the nature of your signature line) Any collector can collect how they want but when they sell it is fair on this forum to raise the issue that it is exclusively in NGC slabs. PCGS coins seem to generally bring more money and it is worth discussing why this seller went a different route.

I agree with the coins matter more than the plastic, but given the PCGS premium is typically greater for many of these than average it does raise eyebrows. It makes you wonder if he was hoping to take advantage of grading that is a bit more liberal. If he doesn't submit these to CAC either, I'd bet this is the strategy.

I’m pretty sure CAC no longer accepts colonials but I also doubt the coins were submitted to NGC on the basis of more liberal grading.

I forgot about that. Oops.

Doesn’t Heritage have a relationship with NGC? That might explain the holder selection.

Edit to add an old thread for context:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/803809/heritages-owns-30-of-ngc

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@cameonut2011 said:
For those who don't want to scroll through 72 pages, here is a text list:
https://www.ngccoin.com/gallery/partrick/all/

thank you VERY much.

i wondered if i were up to finding a way to even being to appreciate the scale of the many pages of what i was seeing. believe it or not, the text alone did just that!

just love a good hoard from time to time...