@RichR said:
I said it the other day...and I'll say it again...it's not the 1 HH limit that was most infuriating...it was the ability to "steal" items from another person's cart and the multiple credit card and check out freezes that sent me over the top.
Just fixing those couple of "glitches" and system shortfalls would have helped greatly! Once an item is in your cart...you should be given anywhere from 15-30 minutes to checkout in a sane fashion!
We also need a bunch of anti-bot measures implemented too, otherwise the bots would just lock everyone out 24/7. At the end of the day, very few coins generate this much interest so the Mint probably isn't going to spend money upgrading their checkout systems.
I guess the meaning didn't come across correctly. I was implying that the US government sees companies as a person. And if that person has a lot of many then rules and/or laws AR blurred and not really adhered to as the to the language it tries to portray. 1 per household is meant for one per household. But since a company has employees it can ask "wink" for them to buy "insert item" without limit but employee that doesn't comply well many many other employees can be replaced.
So you want the Mint to change to a 'One Per Employer' Rule?
I don't want anything I'm saying that the "1 per household" rule doesn't work and they should just remove it. Why have a rule if it doesn't even work as intended. Just remove it any anyone who complains about 1 per household doesn't have an argument. Bus full of people hired haha sounds like bussing in voters lol.
Because without the rule, the 1st person in could have bought the entire 30,000 coins. Well, 100 at a time cuz that's all they allow. But I would have been buying 100 lot orders till the money ran out.
With the same logic of a company can hired 30k people and buy the lot. Or online 30k people. Either one with the same logic would do the same.
That's a false equivalence. Hiring 30k people costs significantly more time and money.
You only need them for max 30 min or just get a lot of bots online which the mint didn't even know they got hit by.
I guess the meaning didn't come across correctly. I was implying that the US government sees companies as a person. And if that person has a lot of many then rules and/or laws AR blurred and not really adhered to as the to the language it tries to portray. 1 per household is meant for one per household. But since a company has employees it can ask "wink" for them to buy "insert item" without limit but employee that doesn't comply well many many other employees can be replaced.
So you want the Mint to change to a 'One Per Employer' Rule?
I don't want anything I'm saying that the "1 per household" rule doesn't work and they should just remove it. Why have a rule if it doesn't even work as intended. Just remove it any anyone who complains about 1 per household doesn't have an argument. Bus full of people hired haha sounds like bussing in voters lol.
Because without the rule, the 1st person in could have bought the entire 30,000 coins. Well, 100 at a time cuz that's all they allow. But I would have been buying 100 lot orders till the money ran out.
With the same logic of a company can hired 30k people and buy the lot. Or online 30k people. Either one with the same logic would do the same.
That's a false equivalence. Hiring 30k people costs significantly more time and money.
You only need them for max 30 min or just get a lot of bots online which the mint didn't even know they got hit by.
Yes, but the point is the effort required is a significant barrier. Everyone could have asked her coworkers to buy them the coins, so why didn't everyone here do it? Because going around your office trying to convince 100 people to spend 30mins of their lunch time is a lot harder than just typing in "100" during checkout.
I guess the meaning didn't come across correctly. I was implying that the US government sees companies as a person. And if that person has a lot of many then rules and/or laws AR blurred and not really adhered to as the to the language it tries to portray. 1 per household is meant for one per household. But since a company has employees it can ask "wink" for them to buy "insert item" without limit but employee that doesn't comply well many many other employees can be replaced.t
So you want the Mint to change to a 'One Per Employer' Rule?
I don't want anything I'm saying that the "1 per household" rule doesn't work and they should just remove it. Why have a rule if it doesn't even work as intended. Just remove it any anyone who complains about 1 per household doesn't have an argument. Bus full of people hired haha sounds like bussing in voters lol.
Because without the rule, the 1st person in could have bought the entire 30,000 coins. Well, 100 at a time cuz that's all they allow. But I would have been buying 100 lot orders till the money ran out.
With the same logic of a company can hired 30k people and buy the lot. Or online 30k people. Either one with the same logic would do the same.
It is MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to find 100 people to buy the coins for you than to put 100 in your cart with the click of a button. Think before you write.
@RichR said:
I said it the other day...and I'll say it again...it's not the 1 HH limit that was most infuriating...it was the ability to "steal" items from another person's cart and the multiple credit card and check out freezes that sent me over the top.
Just fixing those couple of "glitches" and system shortfalls would have helped greatly! Once an item is in your cart...you should be given anywhere from 15-30 minutes to checkout in a sane fashion!
Nobody stole anything from a cart the way you imply. If the cart were the final sale, you probably wouldn't even have had one in your cart in the first place.
I guess the meaning didn't come across correctly. I was implying that the US government sees companies as a person. And if that person has a lot of many then rules and/or laws AR blurred and not really adhered to as the to the language it tries to portray. 1 per household is meant for one per household. But since a company has employees it can ask "wink" for them to buy "insert item" without limit but employee that doesn't comply well many many other employees can be replaced.t
So you want the Mint to change to a 'One Per Employer' Rule?
I don't want anything I'm saying that the "1 per household" rule doesn't work and they should just remove it. Why have a rule if it doesn't even work as intended. Just remove it any anyone who complains about 1 per household doesn't have an argument. Bus full of people hired haha sounds like bussing in voters lol.
Because without the rule, the 1st person in could have bought the entire 30,000 coins. Well, 100 at a time cuz that's all they allow. But I would have been buying 100 lot orders till the money ran out.
With the same logic of a company can hired 30k people and buy the lot. Or online 30k people. Either one with the same logic would do the same.
It is MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to find 100 people to buy the coins for you than to put 100 in your cart with the click of a button. Think before you write.
So you don't think you can get 30k bots? To buy for you then? Then you haven't seen the technology to do so then. It's all over twitter has groups on discord. Facebook and instagram. I've seen a person with 1k bots buy this coin got 800 all unseen because of online cc numbers. You just need to look. You don't have to attack me for saying the truth. This problem will get wore online. Because the hype beasts know of the profit making in the mint now. They won't just be buy yeezys now but coins that will be making them more.
I guess the meaning didn't come across correctly. I was implying that the US government sees companies as a person. And if that person has a lot of many then rules and/or laws AR blurred and not really adhered to as the to the language it tries to portray. 1 per household is meant for one per household. But since a company has employees it can ask "wink" for them to buy "insert item" without limit but employee that doesn't comply well many many other employees can be replaced.t
So you want the Mint to change to a 'One Per Employer' Rule?
I don't want anything I'm saying that the "1 per household" rule doesn't work and they should just remove it. Why have a rule if it doesn't even work as intended. Just remove it any anyone who complains about 1 per household doesn't have an argument. Bus full of people hired haha sounds like bussing in voters lol.
Because without the rule, the 1st person in could have bought the entire 30,000 coins. Well, 100 at a time cuz that's all they allow. But I would have been buying 100 lot orders till the money ran out.
With the same logic of a company can hired 30k people and buy the lot. Or online 30k people. Either one with the same logic would do the same.
It is MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to find 100 people to buy the coins for you than to put 100 in your cart with the click of a button. Think before you write.
So you don't think you can get 30k bots? To buy for you then? Then you haven't seen the technology to do so then. It's all over twitter has groups on discord. Facebook and instagram. I've seen a person with 1k bots buy this coin got 800 all unseen because of online cc numbers. You just need to look. You don't have to attack me for saying the truth. This problem will get wore online. Because the hype beasts know of the profit making in the mint now. They won't just be buy yeezys now but coins that will be making them more.
Let's not move the goalposts here. Your point is there's no for reason for HHL because of the bots. Yes, sure there will always be bots. But HHL makes it much more difficult for the people operating these bots because they need to put more effort in shipping to different addresses, etc.
What would removing HHL accomplish? It will ONLY benefit rich people who could buy hundreds of coins at a time and bots. Removing HHL would hurt the "little person" more than bots ever could. No harm in admitting something you said doesn't make sense, but let's not keep digging the hole deeper here.
I guess the meaning didn't come across correctly. I was implying that the US government sees companies as a person. And if that person has a lot of many then rules and/or laws AR blurred and not really adhered to as the to the language it tries to portray. 1 per household is meant for one per household. But since a company has employees it can ask "wink" for them to buy "insert item" without limit but employee that doesn't comply well many many other employees can be replaced.t
So you want the Mint to change to a 'One Per Employer' Rule?
I don't want anything I'm saying that the "1 per household" rule doesn't work and they should just remove it. Why have a rule if it doesn't even work as intended. Just remove it any anyone who complains about 1 per household doesn't have an argument. Bus full of people hired haha sounds like bussing in voters lol.
Because without the rule, the 1st person in could have bought the entire 30,000 coins. Well, 100 at a time cuz that's all they allow. But I would have been buying 100 lot orders till the money ran out.
With the same logic of a company can hired 30k people and buy the lot. Or online 30k people. Either one with the same logic would do the same.
It is MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to find 100 people to buy the coins for you than to put 100 in your cart with the click of a button. Think before you write.
So you don't think you can get 30k bots? To buy for you then? Then you haven't seen the technology to do so then. It's all over twitter has groups on discord. Facebook and instagram. I've seen a person with 1k bots buy this coin got 800 all unseen because of online cc numbers. You just need to look. You don't have to attack me for saying the truth. This problem will get wore online. Because the hype beasts know of the profit making in the mint now. They won't just be buy yeezys now but coins that will be making them more.
Now you are changing what you said. You said you can hire 30,000 people and that was the same thing. Even with bots, you don't need any without the HHL. So even the bots create a flawed logical equivalence.
I guess the meaning didn't come across correctly. I was implying that the US government sees companies as a person. And if that person has a lot of many then rules and/or laws AR blurred and not really adhered to as the to the language it tries to portray. 1 per household is meant for one per household. But since a company has employees it can ask "wink" for them to buy "insert item" without limit but employee that doesn't comply well many many other employees can be replaced.t
So you want the Mint to change to a 'One Per Employer' Rule?
I don't want anything I'm saying that the "1 per household" rule doesn't work and they should just remove it. Why have a rule if it doesn't even work as intended. Just remove it any anyone who complains about 1 per household doesn't have an argument. Bus full of people hired haha sounds like bussing in voters lol.
Because without the rule, the 1st person in could have bought the entire 30,000 coins. Well, 100 at a time cuz that's all they allow. But I would have been buying 100 lot orders till the money ran out.
With the same logic of a company can hired 30k people and buy the lot. Or online 30k people. Either one with the same logic would do the same.
It is MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to find 100 people to buy the coins for you than to put 100 in your cart with the click of a button. Think before you write.
bot
So you don't think you can get 30k bots? To buy for you then? Then you haven't seen the technology to do so then. It's all over twitter has groups on discord. Facebook and instagram. I've seen a person with 1k bots buy this coin got 800 all unseen because of online cc numbers. You just need to look. You don't have to attack me for saying the truth. This problem will get wore online. Because the hype beasts know of the profit making in the mint now. They won't just be buy yeezys now but coins that will be making them more.
Let's not move the goalposts here. Your point is there's no for reason for HHL because of the bots. Yes, sure there will always be bots. But HHL makes it much more difficult for the people operating these bots because they need to put more effort in shipping to different addresses, etc.
What would removing HHL accomplish? It will ONLY benefit rich people who could buy hundreds of coins at a time and bots. Removing HHL would hurt the "little person" more than bots ever could. No harm in admitting something you said doesn't make sense, but let's not keep digging the hole deeper here.
He's just trolling. He originally said 30,000 people. That then became bots. Either of which requires far more effort than putting 30,000 coins in your shopping bag, hitting CheckOut and then waiting for them to arrive in one giant delivery to your one home address.
Unless the bots have some magical ability to get through the steps that we mere mortals do not, the choke-point was the same for them. This was the luck of the draw and nothing else - I was lucky and I hit submit at just the right millisecond and mine went through. A bot a millisecond later was too late and had to refresh again. Let's accept Occam's Razor and not turn to Rube Goldberg to fix a 'problem' that happens once every two years...
I've been calling around several coin stores/distributors to see if they'll let me use their PCGS memberships for grading. None of them seemed too keen for me to send it in, but all of them tried making offers.
The highest one I've got was $1,050 via check if we meet in person. Part of me thinks the bubble might pop soon, but why are all these stores so quick to offer $1k for it. I swear, every time I mention I have a 2019-S, the guy's voice goes up 5 levels in excitement lol.
We can look forward to more Mint sales chaos in 2020.
The next major coin I see is Jan 30th platinum proof "Pursuit of Happiness". This might have a limited 10,000 mintage again?
With all these newly minted buyers I can imagine an initial rush to buy them all at +/- $1,400 per coin. Let's see how well that flip works out for a few less experienced players. I doubt there are even several hundred actual set collectors.
Then we get the March 30th an Air Force silver coin. Off we go into the wild blue yonder.
@taxmad said:
Unless the bots have some magical ability to get through the steps that we mere mortals do not, the choke-point was the same for them. This was the luck of the draw and nothing else - I was lucky and I hit submit at just the right millisecond and mine went through. A bot a millisecond later was too late and had to refresh again. Let's accept Occam's Razor and not turn to Rube Goldberg to fix a 'problem' that happens once every two years...
More like once every 10 years. We haven't had that kind of insanity since maybe 2011.
You're right that the bots aren't getting through at a higher rate, but they can refresh quicker and they may get more shots at the random number generator that way.
@Archemia said:
I've been calling around several coin stores/distributors to see if they'll let me use their PCGS memberships for grading. None of them seemed too keen for me to send it in, but all of them tried making offers.
The highest one I've got was $1,050 via check if we meet in person. Part of me thinks the bubble might pop soon, but why are all these stores so quick to offer $1k for it. I swear, every time I mention I have a 2019-S, the guy's voice goes up 5 levels in excitement lol.
Dealer wholesale is about $1000 at this point . That seems a little high for a coin selling at $1100-$1200 in an unstable market. But they may have customers locked in for them at that number.
@Archemia said:
I've been calling around several coin stores/distributors to see if they'll let me use their PCGS memberships for grading. None of them seemed too keen for me to send it in, but all of them tried making offers.
The highest one I've got was $1,050 via check if we meet in person. Part of me thinks the bubble might pop soon, but why are all these stores so quick to offer $1k for it. I swear, every time I mention I have a 2019-S, the guy's voice goes up 5 levels in excitement lol.
Dealer wholesale is about $1000 at this point . That seems a little high for a coin selling at $1100-$1200 in an unstable market. But they may have customers locked in for them at that number.
I'm sure the smart move is to take the guaranteed $1k but stubborn part of me really wants to get it graded. Plus some of the people I talked to sounded kinda manipulative.
"I'm sure the smart move is to take the guaranteed $1k but stubborn part of me really wants to get it graded"
Better hurry if playing the grading game, because within a couple weeks more 70's will already be graded than there are collectors willing to pay anything close to current ask prices. The signed paper COA's and their crazy speculative prices are only for a very small group of people with money that simply enjoy spending it.
If you get a 69 back and a common COA not the special 100 signed and certified, you will probably regret it if you are a seller not a collector.
@Goldminers said:
"I'm sure the smart move is to take the guaranteed $1k but stubborn part of me really wants to get it graded"
Better hurry if playing the grading game, because within a couple weeks more 70's will already be graded than there are collectors willing to pay anything close to current ask prices. The signed paper COA's and their crazy speculative prices are only for a very small group of people with money that simply enjoy spending it.
If you get a 69 back and a common COA not the special 100 signed and certified, you will probably regret it if you are a seller not a collector.
Yeah that's very true. This is the first time I've been through this grading process, so I'm just viewing it as a fun experience. The coin would have to crash down to $200 for me to lose any money.
I'm probably a 40% speculator, 60% collector right now. Definitely buying the express grading though.
Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
@coinnoob782 said:
Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
None have been graded a 68 yet by PCGS. Pop report hasn’t been released yet by NGC
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@coinnoob782 said:
Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
None have been graded a 68 yet by PCGS. Pop report hasn’t been released yet by NGC
If I had one to send in I could get that grade I’ve unfortunately pulled down that grade more than once 😢
@Goldminers said:
We can look forward to more Mint sales chaos in 2020.
The next major coin I see is Jan 30th platinum proof "Pursuit of Happiness". This might have a limited 10,000 mintage again?
With all these newly minted buyers I can imagine an initial rush to buy them all at +/- $1,400 per coin. Let's see how well that flip works out for a few less experienced players. I doubt there are even several hundred actual set collectors.
Then we get the March 30th an Air Force silver coin. Off we go into the wild blue yonder.
10,000 mintage limitation isn't going to create excitement for Platinum coins as this 2019-S did. If you remember, there was a 4,000 mintage limit in the recent past on a platinum proof coin that created this level of excitement. So, I say (in my opinion) anything above 5,000 mintage limit would not excite the masses.
I think it will be interesting to see what happens when all these new mint buyers think any low mintage coin is an automatic flip. We may have a lot of sour apples next year, lol
@jwitten said:
I think it will be interesting to see what happens when all these new mint buyers think any low mintage coin is an automatic flip. We may have a lot of sour apples next year, lol
Or returns. I'm not sure the Mint has plugged that hole
@coinnoob782 said:
Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
Are you contemplating a PCGS "low ball" registry set?
@coinnoob782 said:
Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
Are you contemplating a PCGS "low ball" registry set?
@coinnoob782 said:
Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
Are you contemplating a PCGS "low ball" registry set?
A 68 can be part of a low ball set?
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Nothing. Three straight weeks with no data posted.
Per the webpage: Figures are posted weekly by 5 p.m. (ET) Tuesdays to reflect sales demand through the previous Sunday, starting on June 18, 2013.
Something is amiss folks.
I've been using the Mint's sales figures since the beginning of 2019, and I've noticed multiple times when they report late, often by a week or two. So I'm not sure if something is amiss, or if this is just business as usual. In any event, the data for this coin should be well known- high 29,000s with a few bouncing around in the system until it's officially sold-out.
He has it posted to meet at the Local Police Station! Right with $100,000.00 in cash those cops will throw you both in jail they will figure its a drug sale for sure! hahaha
@coinnoob782 said:
Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
Are you contemplating a PCGS "low ball" registry set?
@coinnoob782 said:
Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
Are you contemplating a PCGS "low ball" registry set?
A 68 can be part of a low ball set?
I guess it would be if it was the lowest graded. I wonder what a 68 as a 1 with none lower in the population report would fetch.
Nothing. Three straight weeks with no data posted.
Per the webpage: Figures are posted weekly by 5 p.m. (ET) Tuesdays to reflect sales demand through the previous Sunday, starting on June 18, 2013.
Something is amiss folks.
I've been using the Mint's sales figures since the beginning of 2019, and I've noticed multiple times when they report late, often by a week or two. So I'm not sure if something is amiss, or if this is just business as usual. In any event, the data for this coin should be well known- high 29,000s with a few bouncing around in the system until it's officially sold-out.
What if they over sold by 300 and are trying to figure out a way to not report because then it wont be the lowest. And all their buddies they let buy who are selling on E-Bay will loose out along with their take!
Nothing. Three straight weeks with no data posted.
Per the webpage: Figures are posted weekly by 5 p.m. (ET) Tuesdays to reflect sales demand through the previous Sunday, starting on June 18, 2013.
Something is amiss folks.
I've been using the Mint's sales figures since the beginning of 2019, and I've noticed multiple times when they report late, often by a week or two. So I'm not sure if something is amiss, or if this is just business as usual. In any event, the data for this coin should be well known- high 29,000s with a few bouncing around in the system until it's officially sold-out.
What if they over sold by 300 and are trying to figure out a way to not report because then it wont be the lowest. And all their buddies they let buy who are selling on E-Bay will loose out along with their take!
I'm not sure it would really matter. For the series, it would still be a key or semi-key (even if a contrived one).
Nothing. Three straight weeks with no data posted.
Per the webpage: Figures are posted weekly by 5 p.m. (ET) Tuesdays to reflect sales demand through the previous Sunday, starting on June 18, 2013.
Something is amiss folks.
I've been using the Mint's sales figures since the beginning of 2019, and I've noticed multiple times when they report late, often by a week or two. So I'm not sure if something is amiss, or if this is just business as usual. In any event, the data for this coin should be well known- high 29,000s with a few bouncing around in the system until it's officially sold-out.
What if they over sold by 300 and are trying to figure out a way to not report because then it wont be the lowest. And all their buddies they let buy who are selling on E-Bay will loose out along with their take!
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We also need a bunch of anti-bot measures implemented too, otherwise the bots would just lock everyone out 24/7. At the end of the day, very few coins generate this much interest so the Mint probably isn't going to spend money upgrading their checkout systems.
You only need them for max 30 min or just get a lot of bots online which the mint didn't even know they got hit by.
Yes, but the point is the effort required is a significant barrier. Everyone could have asked her coworkers to buy them the coins, so why didn't everyone here do it? Because going around your office trying to convince 100 people to spend 30mins of their lunch time is a lot harder than just typing in "100" during checkout.
It is MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to find 100 people to buy the coins for you than to put 100 in your cart with the click of a button. Think before you write.
Nobody stole anything from a cart the way you imply. If the cart were the final sale, you probably wouldn't even have had one in your cart in the first place.
So you don't think you can get 30k bots? To buy for you then? Then you haven't seen the technology to do so then. It's all over twitter has groups on discord. Facebook and instagram. I've seen a person with 1k bots buy this coin got 800 all unseen because of online cc numbers. You just need to look. You don't have to attack me for saying the truth. This problem will get wore online. Because the hype beasts know of the profit making in the mint now. They won't just be buy yeezys now but coins that will be making them more.
Let's not move the goalposts here. Your point is there's no for reason for HHL because of the bots. Yes, sure there will always be bots. But HHL makes it much more difficult for the people operating these bots because they need to put more effort in shipping to different addresses, etc.
What would removing HHL accomplish? It will ONLY benefit rich people who could buy hundreds of coins at a time and bots. Removing HHL would hurt the "little person" more than bots ever could. No harm in admitting something you said doesn't make sense, but let's not keep digging the hole deeper here.
I myself am a fan of the HHL. It at least gives the small fish a slightly better chance of getting one.
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Now you are changing what you said. You said you can hire 30,000 people and that was the same thing. Even with bots, you don't need any without the HHL. So even the bots create a flawed logical equivalence.
Your "truth" changes as we raise objections.
He's just trolling. He originally said 30,000 people. That then became bots. Either of which requires far more effort than putting 30,000 coins in your shopping bag, hitting CheckOut and then waiting for them to arrive in one giant delivery to your one home address.
Unless the bots have some magical ability to get through the steps that we mere mortals do not, the choke-point was the same for them. This was the luck of the draw and nothing else - I was lucky and I hit submit at just the right millisecond and mine went through. A bot a millisecond later was too late and had to refresh again. Let's accept Occam's Razor and not turn to Rube Goldberg to fix a 'problem' that happens once every two years...
I've been calling around several coin stores/distributors to see if they'll let me use their PCGS memberships for grading. None of them seemed too keen for me to send it in, but all of them tried making offers.
The highest one I've got was $1,050 via check if we meet in person. Part of me thinks the bubble might pop soon, but why are all these stores so quick to offer $1k for it. I swear, every time I mention I have a 2019-S, the guy's voice goes up 5 levels in excitement lol.
We can look forward to more Mint sales chaos in 2020.
The next major coin I see is Jan 30th platinum proof "Pursuit of Happiness". This might have a limited 10,000 mintage again?
With all these newly minted buyers I can imagine an initial rush to buy them all at +/- $1,400 per coin. Let's see how well that flip works out for a few less experienced players. I doubt there are even several hundred actual set collectors.
Then we get the March 30th an Air Force silver coin. Off we go into the wild blue yonder.
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More like once every 10 years. We haven't had that kind of insanity since maybe 2011.
You're right that the bots aren't getting through at a higher rate, but they can refresh quicker and they may get more shots at the random number generator that way.
Dealer wholesale is about $1000 at this point . That seems a little high for a coin selling at $1100-$1200 in an unstable market. But they may have customers locked in for them at that number.
all I know is I beat one bot to the punch
Don't be so humble. You beat 1000 bots to the punch!
Keep swinging!
I'm sure the smart move is to take the guaranteed $1k but stubborn part of me really wants to get it graded. Plus some of the people I talked to sounded kinda manipulative.
"I'm sure the smart move is to take the guaranteed $1k but stubborn part of me really wants to get it graded"
Better hurry if playing the grading game, because within a couple weeks more 70's will already be graded than there are collectors willing to pay anything close to current ask prices. The signed paper COA's and their crazy speculative prices are only for a very small group of people with money that simply enjoy spending it.
If you get a 69 back and a common COA not the special 100 signed and certified, you will probably regret it if you are a seller not a collector.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Yeah that's very true. This is the first time I've been through this grading process, so I'm just viewing it as a fun experience. The coin would have to crash down to $200 for me to lose any money.
I'm probably a 40% speculator, 60% collector right now. Definitely buying the express grading though.
Prices seem to be stabilizing, many listings going unsold, at least the ones with $1200 opening bids.
Stable for now. Until it starts to drop.....
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Has anyone seen a PF68 or lower yet? Ive been trying to look at pics of 70's and 69's to see what the difference is and only thing i can see is the breast plates on 69's look more polished and 70s look more frosty.
None have been graded a 68 yet by PCGS. Pop report hasn’t been released yet by NGC
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Well, did anyone see the forum member today list his OPENED sets at $1000/ea? Sold in about 15 minutes...
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If I had one to send in I could get that grade I’ve unfortunately pulled down that grade more than once 😢
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
I don't know. I listed 4 coins today. 2 sold in 4 minutes. The other two were in open boxes and took 15 minutes to sell.
10,000 mintage limitation isn't going to create excitement for Platinum coins as this 2019-S did. If you remember, there was a 4,000 mintage limit in the recent past on a platinum proof coin that created this level of excitement. So, I say (in my opinion) anything above 5,000 mintage limit would not excite the masses.
I think it will be interesting to see what happens when all these new mint buyers think any low mintage coin is an automatic flip. We may have a lot of sour apples next year, lol
I still wanna see the mintage figures. The mint better release them tomorrow
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Or returns. I'm not sure the Mint has plugged that hole
Are you contemplating a PCGS "low ball" registry set?
A 68 can be part of a low ball set?
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No release today
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Looking over 2019 you have to think the numbers are being withheld.
I think they sold 31,000 and expected 1,000 returns that didn't happen yet. Have to find a way to adjust the books...
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
🤔 hmmmm
One person got 6. Wants 100k for all....
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=American+Eagle+One+Ounce+Silver+Enhanced+Reverse+Proof&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_BIN=1&_sop=16
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L&C coins just dropped the bomb on these with full listings and big variety at buy it now.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Nothing. Three straight weeks with no data posted.
Per the webpage: Figures are posted weekly by 5 p.m. (ET) Tuesdays to reflect sales demand through the previous Sunday, starting on June 18, 2013.
Something is amiss folks.
https://usmint.gov/about/production-sales-figures/cumulative-sales
Link? I only see the proof (not reverse proof) version on their eBay store.
I saw this posted on FB and thought it could lighten the mood a bit!
Where can I get that slab!
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The mint really hates to release the sales figures of the ERP it semms like
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I've been using the Mint's sales figures since the beginning of 2019, and I've noticed multiple times when they report late, often by a week or two. So I'm not sure if something is amiss, or if this is just business as usual. In any event, the data for this coin should be well known- high 29,000s with a few bouncing around in the system until it's officially sold-out.
He has it posted to meet at the Local Police Station! Right with $100,000.00 in cash those cops will throw you both in jail they will figure its a drug sale for sure! hahaha
I guess it would be if it was the lowest graded. I wonder what a 68 as a 1 with none lower in the population report would fetch.
What if they over sold by 300 and are trying to figure out a way to not report because then it wont be the lowest. And all their buddies they let buy who are selling on E-Bay will loose out along with their take!
I'm not sure it would really matter. For the series, it would still be a key or semi-key (even if a contrived one).
Have any errors been found for @ErrorsOnCoins?
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I was wondering about that..........