There was another tweet literately had truck loaded of confirmed bot orders with pictures posted as early as Nov 14 .12:28 pm
How could they have a picture of a truck loaded with coins that had not been released yet? This reeks of hype by the bot farm with no proof they actually purchased any.
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There was another tweet literately had truck loaded of confirmed bot orders with pictures posted as early as Nov 14 .12:28 pm
How could they have a picture of a truck loaded with coins that had not been released yet? This reeks of hype by the bot farm with no proof they actually purchased any.
I didn't want to post any links to individual groups last week. But I did mentioned I had strong evidences. Anyhow since members are now coming up with links to the suspects' home base. Might as well post some more.
This was just from one single person on Nov.14. Once the order was confirmed, it was good as shipped. The people who were caught using bots didn't get the confirmation.
It's actually kinda bad if any other good buys come up it will be littered with bots and it will be maybe 10x harder because people will know of good flips on the usmint.
Did they ship the first 100 in the order they were received or was it random? I am pretty sure I wasn't one of the top 100 who ordered; most likely a bot ordered it before anyone else and those relisted and purchasing late will get those....or is it completely random?
I'm debating on getting it graded, however my experiences after the 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle spotting issues is it'll be better to just keep it in the box so it will have a less likelihood of spotting.
@Silverman2020 said:
It's actually kinda bad if any other good buys come up it will be littered with bots and it will be maybe 10x harder because people will know of good flips on the usmint.
Just to be fair. Some hired temps to wait in line. Some had entire office ordering during lunch break. And some of course, used bots. The only difference was who was smarter, bought more and got the job done.
Lets just admit it. We were PWNED by the millennials. Congrat to everyone who has this coin.
@Absolution said:
Did they ship the first 100 in the order they were received or was it random? I am pretty sure I wasn't one of the top 100 who ordered; most likely a bot ordered it before anyone else and those relisted and purchasing late will get those....or is it completely random?
I'm debating on getting it graded, however my experiences after the 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle spotting issues is it'll be better to just keep it in the box so it will have a less likelihood of spotting.
The description said the CoA numbers were shipped randomly.
@Absolution said:
Did they ship the first 100 in the order they were received or was it random? I am pretty sure I wasn't one of the top 100 who ordered; most likely a bot ordered it before anyone else and those relisted and purchasing late will get those....or is it completely random?
I'm debating on getting it graded, however my experiences after the 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle spotting issues is it'll be better to just keep it in the box so it will have a less likelihood of spotting.
The description said the CoA numbers were shipped randomly.
The US Mint stated "The number on each Certificate of Authenticity does not reflect the order in which each coin was minted." but on Coinworld they wrote "Ryder autographed the COAs for the first 100 coins to be shipped to customers who ordered online or by phone Nov. 14 as well as a random number included in sales at the Baltimore show."
@Silverman2020 said:
It's actually kinda bad if any other good buys come up it will be littered with bots and it will be maybe 10x harder because people will know of good flips on the usmint.
Just to be fair. Some hired temps to wait in line. Some had entire office ordering during lunch break. And some of course, used bots. The only difference was who was smarter, bought more and got the job done.
Lets just admit it. We were PWNED by the millennials. Congrat to everyone who has this coin.
I know of a few comments that said they will be looking into getting bots them selves. If the mint didn't even see or stop the transactions from occurring the likelihood of getting worse is 100% guaranteed. And the mint just denied it from even happening so yeah.
@lkeigwin said:
Sorry if this was covered before (long thread!)...
Which appears to be selling for more: PCGS PR69 (w/ vanilla COA, slabbed) or unopened box?
I'm torn between submitting for grading (and getting the likely results) versus selling unopened.
Lance.
Currently about the same. Unopened boxes seem a little higher, but it's hard to say since a lot of the unopened boxes are from amateurs and most of the pre-sale 69s are from dealers.
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"Wade predicts prices will sharply increase for coins shipped from the Mint’s contracted order Fulfillment Center PFSWeb in Memphis, Tennessee, containing certificates of authenticity (COAs) hand-signed by U.S. Mint Director David J. Ryder"
@meluaufeet said:
"Wade predicts prices will sharply increase for coins shipped from the Mint’s contracted order Fulfillment Center PFSWeb in Memphis, Tennessee, containing certificates of authenticity (COAs) hand-signed by U.S. Mint Director David J. Ryder"
If they are sold out there will be none at the fulfillment facility. How are people supposed to guess which box has the signed COA?
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One of mine also came a day early. First scheduled for the 25th, then the 23rd and boom it's here this morning.
Things really picked up after leaving Olathe, KS and making to Phoenix, AZ (1185 miles) in 11 hours 23 minutes.
This package dimensions are 7x5x4 definitely more room to move around, and the others all say 9x6x1.
@pf70collector said:
Mine was delivered one day early. It was left on the front porch. Luckily in did not rain. Don’t trust delivery dates and check often to see when it gets delivered. Not the normal style package but more of a small square box and not the normal flat box. More of a chance of it rolling around.
@SONOMOSCA said:
One of mine also came a day early. First scheduled for the 25th, then the 23rd and boom it's here this morning.
Things really picked up after leaving Olathe, KS and making to Phoenix, AZ (1185 miles) in 11 hours 23 minutes.
This package dimensions are 7x5x4 definitely more room to move around, and the others all say 9x6x1.
Wondered why some of the boxes are bigger than the s"standard" small size?
Accidently packed an extra ERP coin?
Getting a confirmation and getting a coin is two different things. Someone posted on one of these threads that they successfully ordered two using different accounts and different credit cards, but the same ship to address and both were cancelled. They would have received emails stating that they had successfully ordered - but the Mint gods came back with a 'No Coin For You!'
That would be nice but judging from the weight I'd say I will not be that fortunate.
Checking my other incoming packages one shows the weight being 0.1 lbs. The box itself weighs that much!
I'll give it the shake test when it arrives. lol
@SONOMOSCA said:
One of mine also came a day early. First scheduled for the 25th, then the 23rd and boom it's here this morning.
Things really picked up after leaving Olathe, KS and making to Phoenix, AZ (1185 miles) in 11 hours 23 minutes.
This package dimensions are 7x5x4 definitely more room to move around, and the others all say 9x6x1.
Wondered why some of the boxes are bigger than the s"standard" small size?
Accidently packed an extra ERP coin?
@SONOMOSCA said:
That would be nice but judging from the weight I'd say I will not be that fortunate.
Checking my other incoming packages one shows the weight being 0.1 lbs. The box itself weighs that much!
I'll give it the shake test when it arrives. lol
@SONOMOSCA said:
One of mine also came a day early. First scheduled for the 25th, then the 23rd and boom it's here this morning.
Things really picked up after leaving Olathe, KS and making to Phoenix, AZ (1185 miles) in 11 hours 23 minutes.
This package dimensions are 7x5x4 definitely more room to move around, and the others all say 9x6x1.
Wondered why some of the boxes are bigger than the s"standard" small size?
Accidently packed an extra ERP coin?
@Silverman2020 said:
It's actually kinda bad if any other good buys come up it will be littered with bots and it will be maybe 10x harder because people will know of good flips on the usmint.
You get one of these about every 10 years. Don't worry about it.
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Getting a confirmation and getting a coin is two different things. Someone posted on one of these threads that they successfully ordered two using different accounts and different credit cards, but the same ship to address and both were cancelled. They would have received emails stating that they had successfully ordered - but the Mint gods came back with a 'No Coin For You!'
I don't think it is that simple. I had one shipped to me. I also had someone on this forum ship TWO to me at the same address from 2 different accounts.
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@Absolution said:
Did they ship the first 100 in the order they were received or was it random? I am pretty sure I wasn't one of the top 100 who ordered; most likely a bot ordered it before anyone else and those relisted and purchasing late will get those....or is it completely random?
I'm debating on getting it graded, however my experiences after the 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle spotting issues is it'll be better to just keep it in the box so it will have a less likelihood of spotting.
@Silverman2020 said:
It's actually kinda bad if any other good buys come up it will be littered with bots and it will be maybe 10x harder because people will know of good flips on the usmint.
You get one of these about every 10 years. Don't worry about it.> @Kliao said:
Is anyone still trying to get one at 7:30 AM or did everyone give up because there are probably none left?
You may get one available 5 weeks from now...or tomorrow. Or never. Look or do not look, it's up to you.
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Why do some people who want to sell look at the price they're selling for and add enough that makes it nearly impossible to sell. I don't get it. It's a windfall, pick the price they're selling at and get it sold.
It could be. Does it say you are buying THAT coin? I have sealed Pride of Two Nation coins available with a picture of an opened coin. I explain that they are not getting the coin shown but a sealed box. Nonetheless, just having a picture of an open coin doesn't mean that's what you are getting. There's little point in showing a picture of a sealed cardboard box.
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@JimTyler said:
Why do some people who want to sell look at the price they're selling for and add enough that makes it nearly impossible to sell. I don't get it. It's a windfall, pick the price they're selling at and get it sold.
If you think it's going up.
That's sure better than selling it for $500 on the 14th and then canceling all your sales on the 15th.
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@JimTyler said:
Why do some people who want to sell look at the price they're selling for and add enough that makes it nearly impossible to sell. I don't get it. It's a windfall, pick the price they're selling at and get it sold.
If you think it's going up.
That's sure better than selling it for $500 on the 14th and then canceling all your sales on the 15th.
If you think it's going up then wait.
I've checked many Sundays never saw available but if you say so I'll believe you.
@JimTyler said:
Why do some people who want to sell look at the price they're selling for and add enough that makes it nearly impossible to sell. I don't get it. It's a windfall, pick the price they're selling at and get it sold.
If you think it's going up.
That's sure better than selling it for $500 on the 14th and then canceling all your sales on the 15th.
If you think it's going up then wait.
I've checked many Sundays never saw available but if you say so I'll believe you.
I call it “surprising” Sunday! Some interesting items pop-up, briefly, in other areas of the Mint’s site, too.
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I knew it was joke and highlighted the word "identified" from my earlier post. But it took 5 days for the public to sink in.
Good luck. Not sending it to grading? Doesn't it have to not be opened?
How could they have a picture of a truck loaded with coins that had not been released yet? This reeks of hype by the bot farm with no proof they actually purchased any.
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I'm dropping it off first thing tomorrow at the post office. Not opening it in case I somehow get a signed CoA
I didn't want to post any links to individual groups last week. But I did mentioned I had strong evidences. Anyhow since members are now coming up with links to the suspects' home base. Might as well post some more.
This was just from one single person on Nov.14. Once the order was confirmed, it was good as shipped. The people who were caught using bots didn't get the confirmation.
One of their latest sales.
Sorry if this was covered before (long thread!)...
Which appears to be selling for more: PCGS PR69 (w/ vanilla COA, slabbed) or unopened box?
I'm torn between submitting for grading (and getting the likely results) versus selling unopened.
Lance.
It's actually kinda bad if any other good buys come up it will be littered with bots and it will be maybe 10x harder because people will know of good flips on the usmint.
I think it was discussed that it is around the same
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Did they ship the first 100 in the order they were received or was it random? I am pretty sure I wasn't one of the top 100 who ordered; most likely a bot ordered it before anyone else and those relisted and purchasing late will get those....or is it completely random?
I'm debating on getting it graded, however my experiences after the 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle spotting issues is it'll be better to just keep it in the box so it will have a less likelihood of spotting.
Just to be fair. Some hired temps to wait in line. Some had entire office ordering during lunch break. And some of course, used bots. The only difference was who was smarter, bought more and got the job done.
Lets just admit it. We were PWNED by the millennials. Congrat to everyone who has this coin.
The description said the CoA numbers were shipped randomly.
The US Mint stated "The number on each Certificate of Authenticity does not reflect the order in which each coin was minted." but on Coinworld they wrote "Ryder autographed the COAs for the first 100 coins to be shipped to customers who ordered online or by phone Nov. 14 as well as a random number included in sales at the Baltimore show."
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/bots-attempt-to-sabotage-limited-edition-silver-american-eagle-sales
I know of a few comments that said they will be looking into getting bots them selves. If the mint didn't even see or stop the transactions from occurring the likelihood of getting worse is 100% guaranteed. And the mint just denied it from even happening so yeah.
Currently about the same. Unopened boxes seem a little higher, but it's hard to say since a lot of the unopened boxes are from amateurs and most of the pre-sale 69s are from dealers.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
"Wade predicts prices will sharply increase for coins shipped from the Mint’s contracted order Fulfillment Center PFSWeb in Memphis, Tennessee, containing certificates of authenticity (COAs) hand-signed by U.S. Mint Director David J. Ryder"
If they are sold out there will be none at the fulfillment facility. How are people supposed to guess which box has the signed COA?
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Did the smart post originate from Memphis?
No smart post is fedex. The US mint fulfillment facility is in Menmphis, then hands the package to Fedex
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One of mine also came a day early. First scheduled for the 25th, then the 23rd and boom it's here this morning.
Things really picked up after leaving Olathe, KS and making to Phoenix, AZ (1185 miles) in 11 hours 23 minutes.
This package dimensions are 7x5x4 definitely more room to move around, and the others all say 9x6x1.
Wondered why some of the boxes are bigger than the s"standard" small size?
Accidently packed an extra ERP coin?
Getting a confirmation and getting a coin is two different things. Someone posted on one of these threads that they successfully ordered two using different accounts and different credit cards, but the same ship to address and both were cancelled. They would have received emails stating that they had successfully ordered - but the Mint gods came back with a 'No Coin For You!'
One coin per HH...that refers to address
That would be nice but judging from the weight I'd say I will not be that fortunate.
Checking my other incoming packages one shows the weight being 0.1 lbs. The box itself weighs that much!
I'll give it the shake test when it arrives. lol
Weird. Mine shows 0.5lb from Fedex Smartpost!
I've received 7 coins so far, 5 in the smaller flat box, 2 in the larger box.
They probably weren't able to get 30k boxes exactly the same size. Could be they just ran out of one size.
You get one of these about every 10 years. Don't worry about it.
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I've gotten 4 so far: 2 small, 2 large.
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I don't think it is that simple. I had one shipped to me. I also had someone on this forum ship TWO to me at the same address from 2 different accounts.
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this one unopened seems like a good buy at this point. only one bidder and in the $900 mark
https://www.ebay.com/itm/American-Eagle-Silver-Enhanced-Reverse-Proof-Coin-COA-1-100-PLEASE-READ/174102194043
I believe its random
Is anyone still trying to get one at 7:30 AM or did everyone give up because there are probably none left?
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Maybe Hansen?
You get one of these about every 10 years. Don't worry about it.> @Kliao said:
You may get one available 5 weeks from now...or tomorrow. Or never. Look or do not look, it's up to you.
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If he’s interested in moderns
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Nothing today. Try tomorrow
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When's the last time the 7:3am window was open? 11/19?
Yes I believe so
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Sealed? Really??
https://www.ebay.com/itm/American-Eagle-2019-One-Ounce-Silver-Enhanced-Reverse-Proof-Coin-19XE-SEALED/264542604782?hash=item3d97f7cdee:g:a-QAAOSw2WJd2GtF
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Wasting your time, never ever EVER on Sunday
Why do some people who want to sell look at the price they're selling for and add enough that makes it nearly impossible to sell. I don't get it. It's a windfall, pick the price they're selling at and get it sold.
It could be. Does it say you are buying THAT coin? I have sealed Pride of Two Nation coins available with a picture of an opened coin. I explain that they are not getting the coin shown but a sealed box. Nonetheless, just having a picture of an open coin doesn't mean that's what you are getting. There's little point in showing a picture of a sealed cardboard box.
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This is not true. I've had coins come up on Sunday. The computer opens the window, there's not a person there doing it.
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If you think it's going up.
That's sure better than selling it for $500 on the 14th and then canceling all your sales on the 15th.
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If you think it's going up then wait.
I've checked many Sundays never saw available but if you say so I'll believe you.
I call it “surprising” Sunday! Some interesting items pop-up, briefly, in other areas of the Mint’s site, too.
Do bots sleep on Sunday? Catch up on coffee and reruns? Vote early?
They never sleep 24hrs
Or they go to bot church for the whole day
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I'm jealous. I think mine is taking the long way. FedEx tracking says mine won't be delivered until 12/5. My order number is fairly early (07203xxx).
It's just going to take awhile.
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