So this guy comes here for error coin advice ...

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ctf_error_coins
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edited September 13, 2019 12:12PM in U.S. Coin Forum

... and get the truthful news that it is PMD and not an error.

Fred chimes in.

Heather closes the thread.

Now, this coin is for sale as an "error" coin when the guy who asked for a professional opinion and then lists this coin as an error knowing it isn't.

https://ebay.com/itm/1998-Roosevelt-Dime-With-Major-Error/113887058421?hash=item1a843299f5:g:zl0AAOSwdjtdeqSz

Shame :'(

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  • TommyType
    TommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sometimes questions aren't questions. They are quests to have someone confirm what they already "know"! ;)

    As I'm sure YOU know, any error collector needs to have a much deeper understanding of the minting process than "normal" coin collectors do. That's not an easy set of knowledge to obtain. If you ain't got it, then that...thing...looks like an error.

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TommyType said:

    >

    As I'm sure YOU know, any error collector needs to have a much deeper understanding of the minting process than "normal" coin collectors do. That's not an easy set of knowledge to obtain. If you ain't got it, then that...thing...looks like an error.

    Yes, But I have seen soo many obviously faked error coins get multiple bids to 3 figures when the coin is only worth face if that. Tuition I guess for the buyer. As to the seller of these, I can not say what I want to as I do not want to get banned >:)

    One more thing about these types of sellers, They never last long.

  • 1630Boston
    1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    All I can say is................WOW :'(

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • 1630Boston
    1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He's got this one for sale also
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-P-Roosevelt-Dime-With-Rare-Mint-Error/113887089681
    1999 P Roosevelt Dime With Rare Mint Error

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Closed Thread Link:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1025572/anyone-seen-an-error-like-this-before#latest

  • jmlanzaf
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    Isn't that the coin he was going to slab?

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  • MFeld
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    @jmlanzaf said:
    Isn't that the coin he was going to slab?

    No, it’s the coin (he said) he was going to slab.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Isn't that the coin he was going to slab?

    No, it’s the coin (he said) he was going to slab.😉

    Lol.

    I'm not sure he ever committed to it. Lol. But he was sure we were wrong.

    Only $550 BIN if you don't want to risk losing it in the auction

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  • BillDugan1959
    BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If it makes any difference, at least we now have a name and a town & state.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow... unbelievable....that is clear and obvious fraud....too bad. I certainly hope no one gets burned by this. Cheers, RickO

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Some people are willing to sell their integrity for a very low price.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I see almost every error coin and pretty much have a photographic memory so no need for anyone wanting to try this stunt again to even waste their time.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @ricko said:
    Wow... unbelievable....that is clear and obvious fraud....too bad. I certainly hope no one gets burned by this. Cheers, RickO

    I reported it, but I don't know whether eBay will consider it a "fake" error or not.

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  • ctf_error_coins
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ricko said:
    Wow... unbelievable....that is clear and obvious fraud....too bad. I certainly hope no one gets burned by this. Cheers, RickO

    I reported it, but I don't know whether eBay will consider it a "fake" error or not.

    If enough of us do they will pull it

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ricko said:
    Wow... unbelievable....that is clear and obvious fraud....too bad. I certainly hope no one gets burned by this. Cheers, RickO

    I reported it, but I don't know whether eBay will consider it a "fake" error or not.

    I reported it under “keyword spamming” though I don’t know if Ebay will agree with that categorization, either.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • BillDugan1959
    BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I reported it to eBay as a fraudulent listing. When the top error guy in America tells you it isn't an error coin, and you nevertheless list it on eBay as a rare error coin, that's fraud.

  • Tomthecoinguy
    Tomthecoinguy Posts: 851 ✭✭✭✭
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    Wow, how sad. No doubt about it he knows he is misleading people. If he honestly still thinks it is a mint error, than why wouldn't he send it in to get authenticated.

    I have reported the item, who is with me??? :s

  • thebeav
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    I'm sure the sale was his plan from the get-go
    That's why he was so argumentative.....

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  • jmlanzaf
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    @1630Boston said:
    He's got this one for sale also
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-P-Roosevelt-Dime-With-Rare-Mint-Error/113887089681
    1999 P Roosevelt Dime

    What is this error supposed to be? Smh

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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, if he comes back here, this thread might get interesting.

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  • ctf_error_coins
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    @jmlanzaf said:
    Well, if he comes back here, this thread might get interesting.

    Go ahead and PM him :D>:):o

  • jmlanzaf
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    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Well, if he comes back here, this thread might get interesting.

    Go ahead and PM him :D>:):o

    I don't go looking for trouble. It just finds me. Lol

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  • PerryHall
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @1630Boston said:
    He's got this one for sale also
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-P-Roosevelt-Dime-With-Rare-Mint-Error/113887089681
    1999 P Roosevelt Dime

    What is this error supposed to be? Smh

    The dime has a D mintmark but it should be a P mintmark. Not totally sure but that's my best guess.

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  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Well, if he comes back here, this thread might get interesting.

    Go ahead and PM him :D>:):o

    I don't go looking for trouble. It just finds me. Lol

    Me too bro, me too B)

  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Here is his exact description ...

    "1998 Roosevelt Dime With Major Error! . Shipped with USPS First Class Package. Take a close look, very unique error, a must have for any serious collector! This may be the last chance to buy such an interesting coin, guaranteed to be authentic! Good luck, and happy bidding"

    This comes very close to if not crosses the line to the f**** word but I will not use it.

  • matt_dac
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    If free shipping, I would consider the buy between 5 and 8 cents.

  • Aotearoa
    Aotearoa Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm surprised Jwright1125 hasn't checked in to see the reaction to his eBay listing. ("@" intentionally omitted...)

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Fraud?

    Friendly?

    Fierce?

    Fun?

    Filly?

    Flea?

    Few?

    Fraud.

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Disgusting.

    I have on occasion searched "error coin" and ventured into the eBay swamp of fake and misidentified errors and the range of ignorance and/or fraud is breathe taking.

  • ctf_error_coins
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    @JBK said:
    Disgusting.

    I have on occasion searched "error coin" and ventured into the eBay swamp of fake and misidentified errors and the range of ignorance and/or fraud is breathe taking.

    Many sellers have no idea their coin is fake and throw up on ebay with it.

    this, however, is a much different case.

  • gonzer
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    Reported as fraudulent listing.

  • earlycoins
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    Ditto

  • WaterSport
    WaterSport Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I find it interesting in this information age, that I see more and more of these know it all folks. They all seem to have some social adjustment issues that keep them from 1) Willing to learn from others 2) Make up errors, DDO, RPMS that do not even exist 3) fail to seek references to validate their claims. And mostly - keep posting their @#$%^&*on ebay!!!!

    WS

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  • Smudge
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    @kbbpll said:
    Seller must be impressed by the "38 viewed per hour". Big money coming!! I think I might "watch" it and add it to my cart too.

    That will only make it appear more attractive to some unsuspecting collector who will be burned.

  • sparky64
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    How does one come up with a BIN for $549? 😳

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  • D
    D Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2019 5:46PM
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    The original photo looks like it's from a milk carton.

    "Have you seen this error coin?"

    Best,
    Daniel

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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Listing ended by seller.

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  • Twobitcollector
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    his is to funny I found this in change within the last month.
    I'm not if I thru it out or put it in my change
    bucket

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  • 1630Boston
    1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've got one I posted last week here for a serious question.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1025383/three-layers-of-a-roosevelt-dime#latest

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Feedback = 84; all as a buyer. Probably should stick with buying.

  • rte592
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    I got the quarter from that set from the grocery store this week and threw it in the change jar.

    Let me know if I should dig it out and price it accordingly .

  • Oldhoopster
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    @Twobitcollector said:
    his is to funny I found this in change within the last month.
    I'm not if I thru it out or put it in my change
    bucket

    Wow, if he was asking $549, yours must be worth at least $611.46. :D

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  • Smudge
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    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @TommyType said:

    >

    As I'm sure YOU know, any error collector needs to have a much deeper understanding of the minting process than "normal" coin collectors do. That's not an easy set of knowledge to obtain. If you ain't got it, then that...thing...looks like an error.

    Yes, But I have seen soo many obviously faked error coins get multiple bids to 3 figures when the coin is only worth face if that. Tuition I guess for the buyer. As to the seller of these, I can not say what I want to as I do not want to get banned >:)

    One more thing about these types of sellers, They never last long.

    If the heel fits, shoo it.

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