New Find Today! I do not believe I’ve seen anything better....
Gavenadam1
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Gavenadam1
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Need better lighting. Looks polished in that photo.
1916s are frequently well struck
Not original. Keep looking because this date comes frosty white "gem."
PS Welcome to the forum. What else do you have?
@Gavenadam1....Welcome aboard... That coin looks as if it has been polished...Based on the picture, I recommend you continue looking.... Cheers, RickO
I was using my computer microscope imager & I have to turn it a little so the light doesn’t reflect back, but I did remove this from a mint roll that hasn’t been open since the time it was received. I doubt my grandma opened the mint roll polished it with the pennies inside & then returned it. I assure you not polished. I have so many coins from her estate I’ll try to post more. Thanks for the feedback.
Travis Hale
I'm confused.
1) As far as I know, in that era the mint did not distribute coins in rolls - they distributed them in bags - so you do not have an original "mint roll".
2) Why are pennies being mentioned in conjunction with a dime from a roll? Was it a roll of mixed coins?
Anyway, I can see from the photo that while the detail is good, the lighting is off, so maybe if that is tweaked we'll get a more realistic image. (Still far better photos than I can take
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It looks like a dipped AU with possibly altered surfaces, but the lighting really is doing no favors to the coin. Regarding the "find", your grandmother might not have done anything to the coin, but I highly doubt it is original.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
How did she get the "pennies" in a dime roll?
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Agree.... Not original surfaces.
My first impression was not genuine, but what do I know?
It definitely looks off.
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I cant put my finger on why but it doesnt look genuine to me. Especially the reverse. I'm sure I'm wrong but it's something my eyes dont like. Maybe the polishing is tricking my eyes. Have to examine more
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Did this come from an eBay "bank roll" of cents where there is 1916 dime showing at the end and the seller tries to hype up that it could be a 1916 D?
Yes, these came from a light mixed bank roll from my late grandma’s collection who, I promise never got rid of things. I’ve had 8 of the 1908 cents found inside already Authenticated by the PCGS. One looked straight from the mint like this coin. It is the lighting & I will fix that & send as good a pic as I can, but I promise my 90 year old grandma did not fake a roll from before I was born, I’m 40 btw, & fake coins. All these coins I’m going through are so dusty that I have to keep changing gloves. I have found some extremely rare New Orleans Morgans & I’m trying to grade things slowly because I don’t want the family to screw everything up by vultureing around. She trusted me because I’ve collected since I was 6 & I’m a missionary, so I have experience with old, ancient, & new coins not just from America, but around the world. I’ve seen many fakes & polishes coins & I understand you guys skepticism because of China & Russia screwing with the ligit market & I promise you, I lived there & the Chinese are the best at faking almost anything. Just a fact, some through Christianity are my best friends. I’ll try to get the new pictures as soon as possible.
Travis
P.S. I know the exact guy on eBay that you’re referring to & says his name is Andy something & looks like he’s in a wheelchair. But no, I swear I’m not that gullible for one & second, the roll is ligit.
Welcome. Looking forward to seeing better pictures.
8 Reales Madness Collection
Wish I had family coins to go through....just their debts.
bob
oh and welcome!
You seem a bit defensive and I don't know why. No one is questioning the honesty of your grandmother. However, believe it or not, grandmothers can get misled or even ripped off, too.
Your roll went from being a "mint roll" to being a "mixed bank roll" that apparently contained both cents and dimes.
So, who knows where all the coins came from when she collected them? They might be in original condition or they might not be.
The bottom line is that everyone here is hoping you struck gold but they have to be realistic. So far, some of them don't like the look of your dime. (I can go either way on it myself, but I am not an expert). I hope better pics will change their mind.
A few from her collection I’ve put aside
The Medal I gave to her from France, I got it about 15 years ago. It’s beautiful though. The Indian set is already sold. These were mostly taken with my cell. Sorry for the quality
I’ve got about 100 red boxes of coins to go through & I had to put them in slabs and then the boxes myself. I’m taking it very seriously & as an accounting major I’m using internal control for the families sake & my sanity...
And coins have been cleaned, altered and futzed with for a looooong time. If you feel certain, submit it to our host as well. We await the results. Me thinks details. IMO. Peace Roy
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Sorry JBK, as an accounting major I take integrity seriously & I am a bit stressed lately. No offense. I’m doing this for my mom especially, my parents are still missionaries & doing great work. I’m trying to only do my due diligence in everything & I don’t know if you’ve ever been in the middle of an entire family after someone passes, but I’ve had to get stern with all involved for me to be consistent and do things correctly.
Oh, lol, and if you knew my grandma, she was a horder and OCD. Everything had its place & didn’t move. And ever since I’ve been conscious, none of these have moved. My grandpa collected with her and worked for Halliburton, but passed away too young. She was always a stay at home mom. She never touched his things after he passed & most of these were part of that. I’ve had to contact the mint itself to verify some of the proofs from New Orleans. Branch Proofs. Because both grading companies wouldn’t help because the market is so bad with fakes right now. I have good equipment, but I do know if the treasury department says it’s legit, then there’s no arguments or questions... her father was a wealthy business man here in Louisiana and didn’t believe in banks. My understanding is that many came from after he died splitting it with the family. The very Road she lived on was named after him and his side of the family were French.
I did use a spectral forensics digital imager basically X-ray & I didn’t see any tampering with the silver of anything. I’ve also learned more about the New Orleans mint than I ever wanted. Believe me when I say as a graduate CPA from an accredited private university taught by CPAs & finished top of class with only a 3.26. They taught nothing but paying attention to detail and Due diligence. After saying that, there is more that goes into grading and detail oriented information than can be fathomed and I’m a speed reader. I’ve even read local information not available to the public about that mint. So, my hats off to all professional graders because it seems the more I learn, the more their is to learn. Also, to answer JBK, my grandma on my moms side lived on an extremely fixed income and by herself since my grandpa died. She was form the generation that kept everything because of the Great Depression. I always came and brought food and she trusted me out of most everyone. I will do this right for her sake if that’s any defensive tone you’re reading into. She was a quiet Christian woman with both but love. If she only would’ve let me see these coins because anything that was grandpas was off limits, I could’ve really helped her more....
When using PCGS for grading these don't forget to check the box on ERROR for some of these otherwise they will be returned as GENUINE without the ERROR noted on the slab labels. The fee is extra yet well worth it.
Your one Liberty Head dollar looks like it's made out of led! That is pretty cool. Your Liberty Head dime is missing the D! (Don't you wish!) It can't be a branch mint proof though as none were minted in 1916.
That looks like a varied collection with los of interesting stuff. There will be both some surprises and disappointments. That 1926S cent is not an error - it is a vice "squeeze job" (or hit with a hammer against another cent), for example.
That French medal ("First Prize") is impressive. It has been cleaned at some point as evidenced by the hairlines, but is still a great medal.
No branch mint proofs here. Most of the pieces have been damaged or cleaned.
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@Gavenadam1
Been an Administrator for an Estate. Know what it’s like. The relief is overwhelming when the judge closes the Estate.
The denizens of this forum have a lot of knowledge and experience. There are experts in many fields: coin writers/authors, coin graders, coin authenticators, lawyers, doctors, millionaires+, and many average Joe/Josephine. They/we will provide an honest no-holds barred evaluation of your collection, if you post. Take it and learn or not.
As mentioned above some of those coins have been altered outside the US Mint. Cleaning is never good.
Please smash the staples so they do not inadvertently scratch another coin(s).
Get sleep, rest, exercise and eat well.
Thank you Hemoshperical, exact words from my wife last night as for the other comments, I haven’t listed the proofs and wouldn’t, the mint will see those already in play and why would I list the best I’ve found. I take all information and assess. Some of my best friends are MDs. One is 73 and has books only published here in Louisiana no were else. The only problem with the Morgans I’m finding is that in history, New Orleans was a penal colony for the French. When I moved back here to Louisiana, because I’ve lived everywhere as a missionary only did I discover the fraud rampant. Anyone Edwin Edwards. He’s still in prison and in his 80s for theft and fraud as governor. I’m assessing and not stressing I promise. I just love to trace the truth of information and get there. One interesting thing I recently learned, can anyone tell me why most early Morgans have a blue hue? You’d be surprised the answer. I love coin collecting myself and my collection is vast, I just never got into grading. I love it because it keeps my mind gong but busy. I was told once by a very intelligent friend of mine, if you do have a hobby, make sure it makes money. Of course I’ve been doing this since I was six, but if I you guys could’ve been in Russia living late 80’s and 90’s a 1700’s gold coin was $20 to put it in perspective. I have a great collection and many of our translators and friends there just gave me things that later I’m finding priceless. So, instead of stress, coin collecting calms me. Especially ancients. I can stare at a coin for hours & my wife wants to kill me, but it tells a story. They all do. For the interested the Branch Mint Proofs are all Morgans and pre 1885... that’s all I’ll say. Thank y’all
“Remember” Edwards
You will have a hard time getting people here to believe this story, sorry.
A few numismatists have testified that a tiny number of New Orleans coins are branch mint proofs,
but I've never heard of anyone from the Treasury Dept. doing so.
I invite you to prove me wrong by naming your source and showing your communication with them.
If you ever get time, research the first and only Lincoln mule cent and what the gentleman had to do because nobody would help him. Very interesting & tells me a lot.
Remember itheas the 50’s
“It was”
Well, this has become interesting...
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I was just thinking the same thing.
So many details but also so few details....
@Gavenadam1 It may be the case that your Grandmother used silver polish to make the coins "look better." I say this because the vast majority of the coins look to be polished.
Re your New Orleans branch mint proofs: The ONLY way anyone here will believe what you are saying is if PCGS or another top coin grading company agrees with you. You can talk all you want about branch mint proofs but until then all you'll get is smart arse comments and disbelief.
Play your cards close.
OK, but that's what bluffers do, too.
That was all rulled out. The only job she ever had was to sell away & she won this priced silver plated set she kept in the kitchen. It was black my entire life friend. Do you think the federal government didn’t ask me everything before taking this on? Not trying to be a smart *** it’s just, like I tell my wi
“Why yosclimber, you look like someone just walked over your grave!”
I’m just southern, that’s Val Kilmer from Tombstone
Why are you playing your cards at all?
Who are you trying to "beat" or get the better of?
If you have some rarity why not share it, unless doing so reveals that it isn't what you want to believe it is?
If you did have a super rarity then no doubt there are some people here who would be bidding on it if it went to auction.
I am afraid this thread is going south real fast ....
The 1926-S Lincoln Cent is what we call a Sandwiched coin.
Post mint damaged by squeezing 2 coins together in a vise.
Yet based on the impression left on your example it might have been 2 coins whacked with a hammer.
Same sort of thread as ran ATS some time ago by Mr. Hale. Enjoy y'all.
This may be Tootellthetruth's alt.
Had the same thought
Latin American Collection
We got ourselves a winner here.
Really, sometimes I wonder how some people made it into adulthood. If I encountered someone at work with this guys attitude, I would send him home without explaining why. I don't know why this is tolerated here. Gavenadam1, you might find better company at reddit r/coins.
I shudder at the thought of this guy as a missionary. Imagine his pitch trying to get someone to convert religion. Probably just as successful as having the Treasury confirm his "proofs".
Still love you guys, was trying to joke & as a missionary/Christian or believer in Christ, I really mean it. I thank you all for your help.
Sorry for your loss Travis, its never easy especially when your the executor - Goodluck!