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2019 Apollo 11 50th Anniversary Commemoratives (19C[A-H], B49296, B49297, B15054, 19XA1, 19XA2)

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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    Commems have to be sold in the year of issue

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @jabba said:
    Doesn’t matter with the mint not having them ready to go. I think they will be sought after and we may have a sell out when the mint does get it together. There is the possibility they won’t be able to complete production with the other products they need to mint. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t know if they can strike these past 2019 they have to be done by the end of the year.

    They have been sought after. But there is no demand for 100,000 of them at that price. [In my ever humble opinion.] The half dollar and dollar are much more reasonably priced for space memorabilia collectors. There simply aren't enough puck collectors for 100,000 of them.

    Don't let your emotions cloud your reason. There's a reason the big boys haven't bought thousands of these on back order

    My humble opinin you have written these off too early. The 2 coin sets sold out 95% to ( greedy) speculators. Most going unsold on ebay. In time the Kennedy's will go up but I don't have 20 years and I did buy some, I'm greedy too.

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    chesterbchesterb Posts: 995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have to agree that there is a lot to like about the pucks between the shape, the proof design, .999 silver, neat design commemorating the Apollo 11, etc. etc. Even if there isn't a sell out, these may be in demand for a long time to come.

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JimTyler said:

    @jabba said:
    Doesn’t matter with the mint not having them ready to go. I think they will be sought after and we may have a sell out when the mint does get it together. There is the possibility they won’t be able to complete production with the other products they need to mint. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t know if they can strike these past 2019 they have to be done by the end of the year.

    Don't think they strike them in the next year but many issues have been available for sale into the next year.

    Commemoratives must come off sales before the end of the calendar year they were issued by law.

    These will not be available in 2020.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JimTyler said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @jabba said:
    Doesn’t matter with the mint not having them ready to go. I think they will be sought after and we may have a sell out when the mint does get it together. There is the possibility they won’t be able to complete production with the other products they need to mint. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t know if they can strike these past 2019 they have to be done by the end of the year.

    They have been sought after. But there is no demand for 100,000 of them at that price. [In my ever humble opinion.] The half dollar and dollar are much more reasonably priced for space memorabilia collectors. There simply aren't enough puck collectors for 100,000 of them.

    Don't let your emotions cloud your reason. There's a reason the big boys haven't bought thousands of these on back order

    My humble opinin you have written these off too early. The 2 coin sets sold out 95% to ( greedy) speculators. Most going unsold on ebay. In time the Kennedy's will go up but I don't have 20 years and I did buy some, I'm greedy too.

    And for the record, I have ONE puck on backorder for me. If I thought these would be hot, I would have 50 on backorder. I'm not allergic to making money.

    You've put a lot more thought into this than me. We will have to wait and see.

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My single puck flipped from "backordered" to "processing". Again. (This is my 12:08 order.)

    Hopefully, this time it will stick...

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JimTyler. LOL your avatar. I paid my respects to Doc when I was in Colo Springs.

    Damn near died climbing up to Linwood Cemetery. Ain't no air at 6500' above sea level... :D

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Surprised anyone noticed or knew what it was?

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    jmlanzaf... listen to him. He isn’t talking nonsense.

    Wondercoin.

    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2019 2:32PM

    Wow that sure is a lot of puck discussion. I will toss in my two cents worth :wink:

    I agree with @jmlanzaf on the pucks. I doubt there will be a sellout and in fact, I don't even want it to sell out. The Feb 10th mint report has 62,715 sold and the Feb 17 report has only 62,533 sold. Not sure what the Feb 24th report will say, but not many rushed to order more during that time. First strikes have to have a postmark by Monday so none of the backorders will qualify at this stage. Most only want First Strikes, and for those that just like the coin they are already easily available.

    When you see dozens of recent actual sales of coins IN HAND on eBay at $280 and factor less 6.15-10% fees depending on if a store or casual seller, and less 3% or so for PayPal, and then cost to mail and insurance, the margin is really not worth the time and effort.

    Now if you get graded First Strikes in PCGS 70, of course there is value there, especially with some of the limited signed labels etc., , but all the ones that are not going to meet that minimum 70 grade will be dumped. PCGS is sitting on thousands of these in the grading room that will be out there to be sold soon, including some of mine and I got them sent in really fast.

    They probably already sold more than the actual demand from those who really want to keep them and not flip.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They sold 60k pucks in 9 minutes. Demand has nothing to do with it. Greed would have taken it to 100k.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2019 3:37PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JimTyler said:
    They sold 60k pucks in 9 minutes. Demand has nothing to do with it. Greed would have taken it to 100k.

    That's not completely accurate. They sold 60,000 the first week. They sold 30,000 in the first 7 minutes. The first day was I think 45,000 if someone wants to check.

    But that's not unusual for an issue like this.

    And, you can tell greed all you want, but the only reason you would even care about demand and a sell out is your own greed. Otherwise you'd want no mintage limit for all mint products so everyone could get one whenever they wanted it.

    You're making sheet up. I don't care about demand and unlimited would have been fine with me ( I just wouldn't have played) and yes I will admit my greed is what gets me involved at all when I see a flip but wouldn't have touched the two coin sets if I thought the best would be 20 bucks a set minus ebay fees and postage. Take a look in the mirror and see a bit of greed yourself. You're doing a lot more than I would for a $10 profit even I could do it 100 times to make a grand, not worth it to me. Don't forget about income tax. Too much book keeping to have 1/3 taken in tax.

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    chesterbchesterb Posts: 995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's really the point in arguing about this? 26 pages ago, these things were going to sell out and go for moon money (actual quote). No one knows what's going to happen and, yes, everyone wants to make a little cash and see these coins do well!

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OK you win. The 2 coin sets are smart with overwhelming demand the pucks are dumb no demand. We'll see who gets to say I told you so down the road. Might be you. My opinions are just guesses I'm not in the business like you.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2019 4:06PM

    I watch the same sellers moving nothing at $75. Is this the Twilight Zone ?
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    I'll eat some crow. Must have been awhile since I checked. They are selling at $75 but they sit if priced any higher. Wake me up when they're $125.

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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Greed,

    "An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves."

    In the case of coins, it results in higher mintages than needed, and actually results in lower prices and profits in the long term because of excess supply.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @chesterb said:
    What's really the point in arguing about this? 26 pages ago, these things were going to sell out and go for moon money (actual quote). No one knows what's going to happen and, yes, everyone wants to make a little cash and see these coins do well!

    Oh, the good old days..26 pages ago. :smile:

    This happens every time I usually don't get sucked into it.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2019 4:50PM

    _You can scoff at $75 (and I'M the greedy one) but $54 wholesale, $75 retail is a larger bid/ask spread than most coins. Morgan dollars are more like $55 bid $60 ask. The coin business has crappy margins as a rule. I'm thrilled with my $11 per set net profit. I just sold $110 classic commem for a net $8 profit.

    Guess I've lost touch with reality, having to have to work for a living. Making a more than adequate pension and all I half to do is breath makes those deals of no interest. Maybe I'm not so greedy after all.

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    jabbajabba Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2019 6:13PM

    I really didn’t mean to start an argument
    I will tell you what if they don’t sell out by December 31 2019 (the 5 0z coins) I will buy another one and do a give a way in January
    Love they brother my brother

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    Cut-off for the first strike/release designation is 25 Feb 2018 (Monday).

    Quoting myself... forgot to add that the introductory pricing also ends. See @BackroadJunkie OP for regular prices.

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So my single puck (ordered at 12:08) shipped yesterday evening, making it a First Strike eligible puck. This definitely makes this a brown box collectable. :wink:

    Method: Fedex Smartpost
    Date Shipped: 02/25/19
    Track Order: 612xxxxxxxxxxx

    Has anyone else's backorder shipped?

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    @BackroadJunkie said:
    So my single puck (ordered at 12:08) shipped yesterday evening, making it a First Strike eligible puck. This definitely makes this a brown box collectable. :wink:

    Method: Fedex Smartpost
    Date Shipped: 02/25/19
    Track Order: 612xxxxxxxxxxx

    Has anyone else's backorder shipped?

    Just received my puck today!!

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ka1956 said:

    @BackroadJunkie said:
    So my single puck (ordered at 12:08) shipped yesterday evening, making it a First Strike eligible puck. This definitely makes this a brown box collectable. :wink:

    Method: Fedex Smartpost
    Date Shipped: 02/25/19
    Track Order: 612xxxxxxxxxxx

    Has anyone else's backorder shipped?

    Just received my puck today!!

    So they're starting to ship. I wonder if there'll be a flood or if they'll trickle out of the Mint between ATB releases...

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like good news for the pucks. Decided to order another one this past Saturday (23rd Feb). On backorder, CC was hit, and on backorder.

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    chesterbchesterb Posts: 995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    Sounds like good news for the pucks. Decided to order another one this past Saturday (23rd Feb). On backorder, CC was hit, and on backorder.

    My card was initially hit too but they reversed it out. I looked at the FAQs and it appears they will charge it when it ships.

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @chesterb said:

    @Hemispherical said:
    Sounds like good news for the pucks. Decided to order another one this past Saturday (23rd Feb). On backorder, CC was hit, and on backorder.

    My card was initially hit too but they reversed it out. I looked at the FAQs and it appears they will charge it when it ships.

    Thanks for the heads-up/reminder @chesterb.

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    Schmitz7Schmitz7 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭

    If you sell for $75 per set on Ebay and you don't get special discounts, then here is what I see for profit:

    $75 - $7.50 Ebay fee - $2.25 PayPal fee and assume postage - $5.50 = Net of $59.75. The set original set was $53.95 so a profit of $5.80 per set assuming you got free shipping from the mint. You have to sell a heck of a lot of these to make much money if you are playing the flipping game.

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    dmwestdmwest Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭

    @Schmitz7 said:
    If you sell for $75 per set on Ebay and you don't get special discounts, then here is what I see for profit:

    $75 - $7.50 Ebay fee - $2.25 PayPal fee and assume postage - $5.50 = Net of $59.75. The set original set was $53.95 so a profit of $5.80 per set assuming you got free shipping from the mint. You have to sell a heck of a lot of these to make much money if you are playing the flipping game.

    It’s not a 10% eBay fee if you use a store.

    Don't quote me on that.

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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2019 3:26PM

    Update 2019 APOLLO 11 SILVER PROOF 5 OZ
    sales 63428
    02/24/2019

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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I received the one dollar Apollo silvers and they do not fit in the blue PCGS 20 coin holders. The baseball curved ones fit if I remember so there must be a slight difference in thickness.

    I see the real big square looking PCGS box maybe for ATB's or pucks, but wondered if there is one more like normal PCGS blue ones that hold maybe 15 instead of 20 that would work for the dollar size ones?

    Any ideas? I have Intercept shield cardboard ones, but sort of like having them separated a bit and would prefer ones that are more like normal PCGS style.

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    GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2019 7:12PM

    Goldminer did you ask PCGS if they are going to sell a holder just for these? I suppose after mine come back I will be asking myself.
    Of course maybe I will make one of my extra PCGS boxes custom fit it by cutting every other one to widen the slot. Maybe a dremel flat thin cutter.

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