I always wonder about that if the seller ( This time Capitol Mint ), can manipulate to make it LOOK like they had some past sales at that HIGH rate to TRICK you to buy their product.
@Type2 said:
Last of my sub going in will see how it go's.
Wow! Where/when did you buy them all? I think I see a few hits (bottom right, top left), and they won't be first strikes now. Still worth the grading fees do you think?
I just miss it but after the dead line was gone it was no big hurry to get them graded. Hoping for 69's and 70's but it is what it is I'm putting them back so no big deal a new box of 20, Yes I saw some hits but I like to holder my coins to keep them from getting any more just me crazy Type2.
I think the other guy who is private is shielding the sale of the First Day of Issue since he is all the way up to 2500.00 Cause Capitol Mint wants almost $ 4950.00 online for that! Why else would a private bidder pump the bid all the way up to $2500.00?
Talk about advanced notice Mint. Nice to know but premature by a couple months.
Well looks like the thrill is gone on these 2017 ones. But nice to know another one coming in the fall. I might just buy 1 or 2. I sold all of mine except for 2 of them. It would be interesting to see just how many of these they will make and what the limit will be.
From today's Coin World Monday Brief, a Video Brief by Paul Gilkes: https://coinworld.com/videos/2017/12/monday-morning-brief-dec-11-2017.html The U.S. Mint in the fall of 2018 will offer a Proof American Eagle 1-ounce palladium coin, a follow-up to the 2017 bullion coin version that now trades at prices well above its bullion value.
Talk about advanced notice Mint. Nice to know but premature by a couple months.
Well looks like the thrill is gone on these 2017 ones. But nice to know another one coming in the fall. I might just buy 1 or 2. I sold all of mine except for 2 of them. It would be interesting to see just how many of these they will make and what the limit will be.
Prices still in $1700 - 2000 area for 2017..... 70s
After watching that video I better appreciate the time and effort that went into this beautiful coin for which I paid a little bit above spot. As did others. This was an amazing value for me.
For me, Attractive Coins will always hold their value.
@Weiss said:
On mine, the "rim issues" appear to be the same type of "finning" we saw on the gold Merc & SLC. The relief is so high that it has caused metal flow out at the very top edge of the rim, creating a thin 3-D blade in some areas.
If I'm right, then PCGS isn't concerned with the finning and isn't knocking the coins for it. If I'm right, and it is finning, I don't think it should detract from the technical grade, either.
In this image below, you can see what appears to be finning, but it seems to be folded over so it's almost flat again.
This is a huge image, you should be able to click on it to increase the size...
I have seen that before when minting medals. I haven't read this entire thread to know if anyone else explained it. Regardless, my explanation is this:
On a piece such as this that is multiply-struck (like most proof coins), the first strike causes some finning of the rim. On the subsequent strike, the die catches the previous fin, folds it over, and strikes the fin flap into the coin. Then the flap becomes loose and peels up a little.
@Weiss said:
On mine, the "rim issues" appear to be the same type of "finning" we saw on the gold Merc & SLC. The relief is so high that it has caused metal flow out at the very top edge of the rim, creating a thin 3-D blade in some areas.
If I'm right, then PCGS isn't concerned with the finning and isn't knocking the coins for it. If I'm right, and it is finning, I don't think it should detract from the technical grade, either.
In this image below, you can see what appears to be finning, but it seems to be folded over so it's almost flat again.
This is a huge image, you should be able to click on it to increase the size...
I have seen that before when minting medals. I haven't read this entire thread to know if anyone else explained it. Regardless, my explanation is this:
On a piece such as this that is multiply-struck (like most proof coins), the first strike causes some finning of the rim. On the subsequent strike, the die catches the previous fin, folds it over, and strikes the fin flap into the coin. Then the flap becomes loose and peels up a little.
I had this on one of my raws. I actually peeled the loose palladium piece off before sending it in for grading, lol. Still got a 70!
@Weiss said:
On mine, the "rim issues" appear to be the same type of "finning" we saw on the gold Merc & SLC. The relief is so high that it has caused metal flow out at the very top edge of the rim, creating a thin 3-D blade in some areas.
If I'm right, then PCGS isn't concerned with the finning and isn't knocking the coins for it. If I'm right, and it is finning, I don't think it should detract from the technical grade, either.
In this image below, you can see what appears to be finning, but it seems to be folded over so it's almost flat again.
This is a huge image, you should be able to click on it to increase the size...
I have seen that before when minting medals. I haven't read this entire thread to know if anyone else explained it. Regardless, my explanation is this:
On a piece such as this that is multiply-struck (like most proof coins), the first strike causes some finning of the rim. On the subsequent strike, the die catches the previous fin, folds it over, and strikes the fin flap into the coin. Then the flap becomes loose and peels up a little.
I had this on one of my raws. I actually peeled the loose palladium piece off before sending it in for grading, lol. Still got a 70!
Great, now they'll have to put reeding on the rims to keep us from getting underweight coins graded! Wonder how much one could profit by buying raw coins, picking the loose palladium off, and then getting the coins graded?
@Weiss said:
On mine, the "rim issues" appear to be the same type of "finning" we saw on the gold Merc & SLC. The relief is so high that it has caused metal flow out at the very top edge of the rim, creating a thin 3-D blade in some areas.
If I'm right, then PCGS isn't concerned with the finning and isn't knocking the coins for it. If I'm right, and it is finning, I don't think it should detract from the technical grade, either.
In this image below, you can see what appears to be finning, but it seems to be folded over so it's almost flat again.
This is a huge image, you should be able to click on it to increase the size...
I have seen that before when minting medals. I haven't read this entire thread to know if anyone else explained it. Regardless, my explanation is this:
On a piece such as this that is multiply-struck (like most proof coins), the first strike causes some finning of the rim. On the subsequent strike, the die catches the previous fin, folds it over, and strikes the fin flap into the coin. Then the flap becomes loose and peels up a little.
I had this on one of my raws. I actually peeled the loose palladium piece off before sending it in for grading, lol. Still got a 70!
Great, now they'll have to put reeding on the rims to keep us from getting underweight coins graded! Wonder how much one could profit by buying raw coins, picking the loose palladium off, and then getting the coins graded?
You know, I thought about keeping the little sliver, but it was so tiny I just threw it away! haha
@Kudbegud said:
Closing in on $1,100, another new high at the spot close today via KITCO
Those hoping to buy the 2017 Palladium coin cheap ... well forget about it..... palladium still higher
The Palladium spot price when 2017 Mint Coin came out was in $880.00 range ?
. Gold Broke out higher today....... price target at least $1390
I hope I didn't sell too soon, I sold my First Strike 70 for $1,950
The number for sale on ebay is way down from where it was, prices are rising again.
I'll be back for the 2018 proof version.
Once more the bubble is inflating. Another new high today with the "Ask" going over the $1,100 milestone. Closing spot market capture via Kitco. Is the climb almost over? What is your guesstimate for the last high before the fall? And, what will be the extant of the profit taking? What will be the new support price when Palladium cools off?
For investors and players, it will matter. For collectors, not so much.
I have no idea or guess but enjoy the excitement that exists around the Eagle in PM value and intrinsic interest.
Otherwise, I would just be enjoying my palladium Maples.
@Kudbegud said:
Once more the bubble is inflating. Another new high today with the "Ask" going over the $1,100 milestone. Closing spot market capture via Kitco. Is the climb almost over? What is your guesstimate for the last high before the fall? And, what will be the extant of the profit taking? What will be the new support price when Palladium cools off?
Going Higher ..Gold today confirmed next stop is $1375 ..palladium will team with gold in the rise up.. still higher
@MilesWaits said:
If you can afford to hold it why part with it?
Fear that now will be the best time to sell, and if I hold, it could go down? I love these coins, but that's a nice chunk of change I could have sitting in the bank.
@MilesWaits said:
If you can afford to hold it why part with it?
Fear that now will be the best time to sell, and if I hold, it could go down? I love these coins, but that's a nice chunk of change I could have sitting in the bank.
Palladium ... up 4.7 % for week.. Gold silver both up 2 %,,, 2017 palladium coin ,getting support from rising spot palladium prices....coin looks great in a PCGS holder !!
I agree with the PCGS holders. They don’t distract, subtract or detract from the beauty of the coin.
It is hands down my favorite Mint coin of 2017 and I hope that 2018 has some other beautiful designs.
@Kudbegud said:
A new closing high today via Kitco
Can anyone say B*ll market
Palladium futures hit new high $1118 today ,, up $230.... from Price of Mint offering last fall..... palladium 1 oz....
Is this the low mintage , true rarity of 2017.?.... PCGS 70s ... 2017 ..... Mint palladium coin
Comments
Someone paid $2,895 for a First Strike 70, Wow!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-P-Palladium-Eagle-25-1oz-PCGS-MS70-FIRST-DAY-OF-ISSUE-FIRST-STRIKE-LABEL/302498817873?hash=item466e55a751:g:dxgAAOSwEEBZ7jx0
I guess your right all nonsense! No brains who would pay that much money the melt value is 900 bucks. Idiots!
I always wonder about that if the seller ( This time Capitol Mint ), can manipulate to make it LOOK like they had some past sales at that HIGH rate to TRICK you to buy their product.
Last of my sub going in will see how it go's.
Hoard the keys.
Wow! Where/when did you buy them all? I think I see a few hits (bottom right, top left), and they won't be first strikes now. Still worth the grading fees do you think?
I just miss it but after the dead line was gone it was no big hurry to get them graded. Hoping for 69's and 70's but it is what it is I'm putting them back so no big deal a new box of 20, Yes I saw some hits but I like to holder my coins to keep them from getting any more just me crazy Type2.
Hoard the keys.
The Latest to add
In 3 1/2 hours one of the Black Label Thomas Cleveland Freedom Label goes up for bid. Sitting right now @ $1725.00
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-P-Palladium-Eagle-25-1oz-PCGS-MS70-FDOI-STRUCK-AT-PHILADELPHIA-CLEVELAND/302516997656?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
DANG!
The 2017 1oz High Relief Palladium Eagle $25 Coin PCGS MS70 FDI Mercanti Signed High Dollar @ $2500.00 goes up for bid minutes after!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-1oz-High-Relief-Palladium-Eagle-25-Coin-PCGS-MS70-FDI-Mercanti-Signed/202107484671?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
John Mercanti "The 12th Chief Engraver of the US Mint!"
Capitol Mint has sold 81 2017 Palladium coins ...on the bay ..... a nice $80,000 + profit in 6 weeks
Wow nice work bestday! Well the Mint made sure we were locked out of the profits. Let the BIG RETAIL HAVE THE COINS TO SELL!
I think the other guy who is private is shielding the sale of the First Day of Issue since he is all the way up to 2500.00 Cause Capitol Mint wants almost $ 4950.00 online for that! Why else would a private bidder pump the bid all the way up to $2500.00?
http://thecapitolmint.com/2017-25-palladium-eagle-pcgs-ms70-first-day-of-issue-mercanti-lowest-pop-mercanti-at-50/
Of course I can't prove it but I don't have to guilty!
Wow I don't think many her bought them. I don't see much on the BST like norm, I wonder how many picked this one up here.
Very nice pick up Gluggo.
Hoard the keys.
Population update, 727 First Strike 70's
https://www.pcgs.com/pop/pcgsnolookup.aspx?s=652892&bc=653109
Just a beautiful coin. Wow!
Got my submission from the PO earlier. A 69.
Better then a MS67 or MS68 nice let see it.
Hoard the keys.
2018 One Ounce Palladium Proof Coin
https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2018-one-ounce-palladium-proof-coin-18EK.html?cgid=product-schedule
Talk about advanced notice Mint. Nice to know but premature by a couple months.
Well looks like the thrill is gone on these 2017 ones. But nice to know another one coming in the fall. I might just buy 1 or 2. I sold all of mine except for 2 of them. It would be interesting to see just how many of these they will make and what the limit will be.
From today's Coin World Monday Brief, a Video Brief by Paul Gilkes:
https://coinworld.com/videos/2017/12/monday-morning-brief-dec-11-2017.html
The U.S. Mint in the fall of 2018 will offer a Proof American Eagle 1-ounce palladium coin, a follow-up to the 2017 bullion coin version that now trades at prices well above its bullion value.
New high close via Kitco
Interesting video about the Palladium bullion creation on YouTube just now.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=okEXuDzSPsk
A new closing high today via Kitco
Prices still in $1700 - 2000 area for 2017..... 70s
Can anyone say B*ll market
After watching that video I better appreciate the time and effort that went into this beautiful coin for which I paid a little bit above spot. As did others. This was an amazing value for me.
For me, Attractive Coins will always hold their value.
I have seen that before when minting medals. I haven't read this entire thread to know if anyone else explained it. Regardless, my explanation is this:
On a piece such as this that is multiply-struck (like most proof coins), the first strike causes some finning of the rim. On the subsequent strike, the die catches the previous fin, folds it over, and strikes the fin flap into the coin. Then the flap becomes loose and peels up a little.
I had this on one of my raws. I actually peeled the loose palladium piece off before sending it in for grading, lol. Still got a 70!
Great, now they'll have to put reeding on the rims to keep us from getting underweight coins graded! Wonder how much one could profit by buying raw coins, picking the loose palladium off, and then getting the coins graded?
You know, I thought about keeping the little sliver, but it was so tiny I just threw it away! haha
Once again Palladium sets a new high - via Kitco Time to sell if you have bullion?
Maybe the Maples but no way Jose the Eagles! They ain't stinkin bullion to me.
Closing in on $1,100, another new high at the spot close today via KITCO
Those hoping to buy the 2017 Palladium coin cheap ... well forget about it..... palladium still higher
The Palladium spot price when 2017 Mint Coin came out was in $880.00 range ?
. Gold Broke out higher today....... price target at least $1390
Can't wait to buy the proof version at somewhere north of $1500!
At a 15,000 mintage and a HH limit of one half a coin.
I 'm for the a proof Palladium .......2018 very good for metals markets
I hope I didn't sell too soon, I sold my First Strike 70 for $1,950
The number for sale on ebay is way down from where it was, prices are rising again.
I'll be back for the 2018 proof version.
Once more the bubble is inflating. Another new high today with the "Ask" going over the $1,100 milestone. Closing spot market capture via Kitco. Is the climb almost over? What is your guesstimate for the last high before the fall? And, what will be the extant of the profit taking? What will be the new support price when Palladium cools off?
For investors and players, it will matter. For collectors, not so much.
I have no idea or guess but enjoy the excitement that exists around the Eagle in PM value and intrinsic interest.
Otherwise, I would just be enjoying my palladium Maples.
Going Higher ..Gold today confirmed next stop is $1375 ..palladium will team with gold in the rise up.. still higher
Just got this one in the mail today! Can't decide whether to sell or keep. I'm thinking I might keep it, since only 25 exist of this label.
If you can afford to hold it why part with it?
Fear that now will be the best time to sell, and if I hold, it could go down? I love these coins, but that's a nice chunk of change I could have sitting in the bank.
Palladium ... up 4.7 % for week.. Gold silver both up 2 %,,, 2017 palladium coin ,getting support from rising spot palladium prices....coin looks great in a PCGS holder !!
I agree with the PCGS holders. They don’t distract, subtract or detract from the beauty of the coin.
It is hands down my favorite Mint coin of 2017 and I hope that 2018 has some other beautiful designs.
Palladium futures hit new high $1118 today ,, up $230.... from Price of Mint offering last fall..... palladium 1 oz....
Is this the low mintage , true rarity of 2017.?.... PCGS 70s ... 2017 ..... Mint palladium coin
Spot Palladium closed up $41 for a new high. W O W ! 3.81 % jump.
PCGS Pop report....
66....1 2017 Palladium US Mint Coin
67....1
68....13
69....1677
70....3571
Yes WOW.
My purchase price of my palladium Eagles is now about 10% less than current spot. That feels good. Specially since they are 70s.