Need TrueView images of CAC stickered and CAC "rejected" coins

astrorat · July 4, 2017 8:24AM

I am preparing for a workshop for my local coin club this fall. Part of the workshop will revolve around CAC approved and CAC "rejected" coins.

If you would care to help, please PM the serial numbers of coins with TrueView images that have been approved by CAC (green or gold) and TrueView images of coins that were not approved by CAC. All info will be kept confidential.

Thanks!

BillJones · July 4, 2017 8:26AM

I can't help you because I don't have any "Tru View" images. I do have CAC accepted and rejected coins.

WingedLiberty1957 · July 4, 2017 9:24AM

Here is a CAC Gold coin of mine ...
Slab photo and TrueView

Gold CAC'd as a PCGS AU58BN.

Interestingly it was Green CAC'd as an NGC MS62BN.
So clearly NGC and CAC thought it was a solid MS62, while PCGS thought it was an AU58

fivecents · July 4, 2017 9:27AM

Oops

WingedLiberty1957 · July 4, 2017 9:28AM

PCGS MS67RB (Green CAC Sticker)

WingedLiberty1957 · July 4, 2017 9:29AM

PCGS MS65BN (Green CAC Sticker)

WingedLiberty1957 · July 4, 2017 9:32AM

PCGS PR67+CAM (Green CAC Sticker)

WingedLiberty1957 · July 4, 2017 9:34AM

PCGS MS65RB (Green CAC Sticker)

WingedLiberty1957 · July 4, 2017 9:35AM

PCGS PR66 (Green CAC Sticker)

WingedLiberty1957 · July 4, 2017 9:36AM

PCGS MS66 (Green CAC Sticker)

WingedLiberty1957 · July 4, 2017 9:38AM

PCGS MS64BN (Green CAC Sticker)

Barndog · July 4, 2017 9:59AM

this was NGC 63 Green
now is PCGS 61 Gold

Barndog · July 4, 2017 10:01AM

CAC didn't approve of this one

tradedollarnut · July 4, 2017 10:03AM

This might be useful to you:
Both rejected AND accepted at CAC

drddm · July 4, 2017 11:01AM

1808/7 CBH PCGS AU55 (CAC Rejected)

1808/7 CBH PCGS AU58 (CAC Accepted)

Dave #226

astrorat · July 4, 2017 2:13PM

@tradedollarnut said:
This might be useful to you:
Both rejected AND accepted at CAC

This will be great for the discussion. Thanks.

Justacommeman · July 4, 2017 3:19PM

@Barndog said:
this was NGC 63 Green
now is PCGS 61 Gold

This is a very interesting microcosm of how TPG's and CAC work and are viewed. The value has probably increased even though it's in a lower graded holder.

mark

Justacommeman · July 4, 2017 3:20PM

@Justacommeman said:

@Barndog said:
this was NGC 63 Green
now is PCGS 61 Gold

This is a very interesting microcosm of how TPG's and CAC work and are viewed. The value has probably increased even though it's in a lower grades holder.

mark

astrorat · July 4, 2017 3:29PM

@tradedollarnut said:
This might be useful to you:
Both rejected AND accepted at CAC

Can you share the serial number?

tradedollarnut · July 4, 2017 3:31PM

16141287

There is an old scratch under the eagle which is why CAC rejected it the first time. I felt the coin solid for the grade and bought it anyway. Eventually, CAC agreed

Barndog · July 4, 2017 3:35PM

@Justacommeman said:

@Barndog said:
this was NGC 63 Green
now is PCGS 61 Gold

This is a very interesting microcosm of how TPG's and CAC work and are viewed. The value has probably increased even though it's in a lower graded holder.

mark

now that I think about it, yes, you are correct.

ricko · July 5, 2017 6:07AM

Some really nice coins here... CAC or no CAC..... Cheers, RickO

BillJones · July 5, 2017 6:19AM

@tradedollarnut said:
This might be useful to you:
Both rejected AND accepted at CAC

I have looked at buying one these later Gobrecht Dollars a couple of times on the bourse floor, but the only pieces that have been available to me were dipped white, and graded by NGC. The price was in the neighborhood of $45,000 both times.

astrorat · July 12, 2017 11:01AM

Thank you much to all those folks who responded to this thread and via PM.

Please feel free to keep the examples coming ... especially those examples you feel to be particularly useful for instruction. I value your interpretation as to why a coin did or did not receive a CAC green or gold sticker.

Thanks, again.

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dpoole · July 12, 2017 11:29AM

It would be particularly instructive if some of you had JA explanations and feedback for the CAC acceptance/rejections of the items you've shown pictured here. I'd love to hear any of those!

Justacommeman · July 12, 2017 11:48AM

Pass......mark

66, 67, 68 and 63

Justacommeman · July 12, 2017 11:51AM

Fail.......mark

67, 66 , 66 and 66

Justacommeman · July 12, 2017 11:53AM

Pass.......mark

66, 66 and 67

Justacommeman · July 12, 2017 11:55AM

Fail.......mark

67

Cougar1978 · July 12, 2017 12:08PM

NGC 63 to PCGS 61??? - unbelievable - I would have specified crossover grade 63 or higher or not at all! Could care less about the gold sticker if it's now in a 61 holder. Looks like u spent some good money in all that that would buy a nice coin too.

As far as it being worth more in the 61 holder I doubt PCGS MV for 61 is higher than NGC MV for 63!

Peace_dollar88 · July 12, 2017 3:01PM

FAIL

topstuf · July 12, 2017 4:35PM

Here's 3 that I found in a random stroll through capped bust dimes.

They made it. But then, they are true beauties so no surprise.

eBay pix....not True Views..

1630Boston · July 12, 2017 4:40PM

Interesting results to consider and statistically analyze.
In the end I would guess that the "COIN" condition is in the eye of the owner.

Need TrueView images of CAC stickered and CAC "rejected" coins

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