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Need TrueView images of CAC stickered and CAC "rejected" coins

astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

I am preparing for a workshop for my local coin club this fall. Part of the workshop will revolve around CAC approved and CAC "rejected" coins.

If you would care to help, please PM the serial numbers of coins with TrueView images that have been approved by CAC (green or gold) and TrueView images of coins that were not approved by CAC. All info will be kept confidential.

Thanks!

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't help you because I don't have any "Tru View" images. I do have CAC accepted and rejected coins.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2017 7:16AM

    Oops

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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS MS67RB (Green CAC Sticker)

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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS MS65BN (Green CAC Sticker)

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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS PR67+CAM (Green CAC Sticker)

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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS MS65RB (Green CAC Sticker)

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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS PR66 (Green CAC Sticker)

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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS MS66 (Green CAC Sticker)

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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS MS64BN (Green CAC Sticker)

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAC didn't approve of this one

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:
    This might be useful to you:
    Both rejected AND accepted at CAC

    This will be great for the discussion. Thanks.

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2017 3:21PM

    @Barndog said:
    this was NGC 63 Green
    now is PCGS 61 Gold

    This is a very interesting microcosm of how TPG's and CAC work and are viewed. The value has probably increased even though it's in a lower graded holder.

    mark

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    @Barndog said:
    this was NGC 63 Green
    now is PCGS 61 Gold

    This is a very interesting microcosm of how TPG's and CAC work and are viewed. The value has probably increased even though it's in a lower grades holder.

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:
    This might be useful to you:
    Both rejected AND accepted at CAC

    Can you share the serial number?

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2017 3:42PM

    16141287

    There is an old scratch under the eagle which is why CAC rejected it the first time. I felt the coin solid for the grade and bought it anyway. Eventually, CAC agreed

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    @Barndog said:
    this was NGC 63 Green
    now is PCGS 61 Gold

    This is a very interesting microcosm of how TPG's and CAC work and are viewed. The value has probably increased even though it's in a lower graded holder.

    mark

    now that I think about it, yes, you are correct.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some really nice coins here... CAC or no CAC..... Cheers, RickO

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2017 6:20AM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    This might be useful to you:
    Both rejected AND accepted at CAC

    I have looked at buying one these later Gobrecht Dollars a couple of times on the bourse floor, but the only pieces that have been available to me were dipped white, and graded by NGC. The price was in the neighborhood of $45,000 both times.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you much to all those folks who responded to this thread and via PM.

    Please feel free to keep the examples coming ... especially those examples you feel to be particularly useful for instruction. I value your interpretation as to why a coin did or did not receive a CAC green or gold sticker.

    Thanks, again.

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would be particularly instructive if some of you had JA explanations and feedback for the CAC acceptance/rejections of the items you've shown pictured here. I'd love to hear any of those!

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2017 11:57AM

    Pass......mark

    66, 67, 68 and 63




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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2017 11:56AM

    Fail.......mark

    67, 66 , 66 and 66




    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2017 11:55AM

    Pass.......mark

    66, 66 and 67



    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fail.......mark

    67

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2017 12:17PM

    NGC 63 to PCGS 61??? - unbelievable - I would have specified crossover grade 63 or higher or not at all! Could care less about the gold sticker if it's now in a 61 holder. Looks like u spent some good money in all that that would buy a nice coin too.

    As far as it being worth more in the 61 holder I doubt PCGS MV for 61 is higher than NGC MV for 63!

    Investor
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    Peace_dollar88Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FAIL

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's 3 that I found in a random stroll through capped bust dimes.

    They made it. But then, they are true beauties so no surprise.

    eBay pix....not True Views..



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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting results to consider and statistically analyze. :smile:
    In the end I would guess that the "COIN" condition is in the eye of the owner. :smile:

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