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Stuff that dealers say when you try to sell them a coin?
Coinstartled
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"it says 65 but is really a 64"
Coin was an 1885-CC Morgan that showed up in the mail before I headed to a show. Bought it right and would have flipped it to the guy if he wasn't an idiot.
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"...that's a fugly widget...you should try eBay"
You can never fix stupid. You can only avoid them.
I actually took that advice and it works quite well
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1879-S-1-Morgan-MS62-NGC-PL-Obverse-Fugly-Widget-/222559655432?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&nma=true&si=2ntBQBgpw9aKNFNrRoeQAwAJr7g%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
"I'll give you half what you paid."
Uh... no you won't.
If it's Anacs or ICG and Unc. they automatically assume it is AU, too bad there aren't laws against such discrimination.... Never crack it out, you will never get it back in.... It all depends on who submitted it, graded by a blind man on Tuesday....If the dealer originally sold it to the customer and the customer needs to raise cash by selling it the market has always gone down, never up with that particular coin....
Like the limbo dancers ... "How low can you go?"
Guy on tv (AANLive.com)just said he has only in 20 years, seen 2 ms 70 silver eagles, the 2000 w he selling now is valued at 6500 bucks, graded ms70 by the esteemed IGS... hurry quick time is running out.... check your cable or dtv listings , on live now...
you will never see one this nice again
HAPPY COLLECTING
Yes or no? We're closing in 5 hours.
'This just came in the store late yesterday, was going to send it in next week. It is a lock 66 CAC...' Yeah, right and tonight I have a date with Scarlett Johansson....Cheers, RickO
I am not up on these things, so who is Scarlett Johansson?
A very attractive, current star.....
Cheers, RickO
I'd suggest looking Ms. Johansson up on Google Images, it has more impressive tru-views than what Ricko posted. She would sticker, methinks.
I think it's more 65 than 66.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
How much you looking to get? No, that's what I sell them for.
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" I'm sorry you lost your loved one."
"If you don't buy it, I am going to crack an resubmit! I know it is at least a grade or two higher than indicated."
Ricko posted a picture!
And a nice one at that!
My YouTube Channel
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Ice in heJJ just unfroze.
You picked a good one to start @ricko . Now let's see some coins!!
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That was just a copy and paste..... Not a picture I took.... Cheers, RickO
Don't hold your breath.
"I understand you found a 1943 Copper cent online and it's $80,000 ma'am, but it' not this one you have. "
"In that case I'd like to buy a few."
"I'm sorry but we are currently out of stock."
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
Dealer selling and buyer making an offer - "I've got more than that in it"
Dealer buying - "I already have more than I can handle of those"
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Thanks, It's great to look at something besides coins.
"Too bad its been cleaned."
This comment by a dealer from whom I purchased a Standing Liberty Quarter graded by him as MS64:
"this coin has been whizzed, it's only worth melt!" I haven't been back to him since. And I bought lots of things from him. Jewelry, bullion, and coins! No Mas!!!
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I was always partial to Maria Menounos.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
@1Mike!...Yeah... well, at my age I have to take just one...too old for an orgy.... Cheers, RickO
I bought a raw 1883-P Morgan that was very nicely toned obverse and reverse from one dealer. The next month I was looking for a PL 1883-CC Morgan and offered to another dealer in trade. He hemmed and hawed and said "it's one of those coins that could go AU58 or MS61/2" (which Is what I hear a lot from dealers talking down raw Morgan's) and offered me $25 in trade.... I knew better than that and I thanked him and promptly got the coin in the mail to PCGS because 1 I thought it was shot 65 and two I was mad that he tried to scam me and wanted to prove him wrong. Fast forward 3 months It came back MS65 and now as we speak it's at CAC. Fadetoblack thinks it should CAC.
Stuff that collectors say when they try to sell a dealer a coin:
"it says 65 but is really a 66"
"...it's a fugging spectacular widget...it goes up on eBay if you don't buy it"
"I need twice the price I paid"
If it's Anacs or ICG and Unc., it will for sure cross at grade to PCGS
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(Just looking for some symmetry here - negotiation is a 2-way street!)
Deleted original post. Thought better of it.
...and in color, no less.
Looking through your listings. . . Love the, "Swamp Toning" description on one of your Morgans!
peacockcoins
I should have added that the dealers comment about the SLQ being whizzed was made when I took the same coin back to him in trade for an upgrade! Not sure what Hydrant had to say that he eventually thought twice about!?! This is simply a post based on the OP's topic. I didn't indict anyone, simply stated my experience.
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Show dealer with all raw coins: "I sell everything at Bid".
Translation: "I sell everything at Bid for the grade I wrote on the 2x2. Generally a grade or two too high."
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My first 2 major transactions of my early career back in 1974/1975. Purchased a Fine/VF 1799 dollar and Unc 1838 half from a local dealer for $850 total. They weren't bad coins either. Took them back a few months later to see if they had any interest in buying them back........
Dealer: I never sold those to you.
That ended a 1-2 yr relationship pretty quick. Many years later I heard from another dealer than they may have regretted lying about that for reasons that really don't matter today.
Dealer: I have no use for those coins. I don't have ANY customers for them.
This was back in 1980 after I was looking to sell MS65 commems back to the local dealer who had sold me half a dozen of them over the previous several years. His comment was dealer-speak for "in order to maximize my profits I cannot afford to buy back coins that I sold for all the money....I'd rather just buy from the dumb public as cheap as I can...buy them as 63's and sell them as 65's." That ended an 8 year relationship. These are reasons you should test your "favorite" dealers early on to see what they are made of.
Dealer: (while snickering to their partner) - "Did we sell that to you? (knowing full well that they did).
That was a MS63 1838 ND quarter they just did not want back again.
Ricko........certainly you just posted that picture to get a LOT of Likes ( 9 to date). And I and going to return and like it too. Does anyone know the record for the most "likes" on a post?
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"I'm sorry, but in this market I pay less for better dates because they're tougher sells."
While the end product is quite pleasing....it likely took some plastic surgery and alterations to achieve that Hollywood look....consult "before" photos from her teens. If you're just counting on nature, it's not that easy to hit the lotto on every feature. Sort of like a coin. Nature doesn't do such a great job. So the doctors are called in to assist.
To accuse Ricko of posting a doctored woman on this forum is beyond the pale......even if it is true, you could get bammed for such accusations against other members of this forum. So what makes doctored women different than doctored coins???????
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_Nice coin, but I've got no where to go with it. _
Nice pic, Ricko!
I deleted my original post because the incident was so very long ago and the dealer is still doing business. Too much info. People do change. But, 25 years later, there is the occasional eye contact made at shows but words are never exchanged. We both know what we're thinking. And it's not good.
Yep, I attempted to sell a very nice PCGS MS64 Flying eagle Cent to a dealer at a show three years ago.. His response I'll never forget............ " Well, a few years ago that would have been in a 63 holder, they are so loose these days"... and then offered me 20% back of 63 money...He liked the coin he said!!! Ha, I sold it for the right price 1 month later...
This was almost universal practice in the coin industry before third party grading came along. Dealers would buy at one grade and then sell it at a higher grade. It is because of this behavior that third party grading became so popular with collectors who were sick and tired of getting ripped off by dishonest coin dealers.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
All dealers Back Then were not crooks. I bought around 15 coins from JJ Teaparty in the late 80's early 90's. Every single coin slabbed at least 1 full step in grade higher than the grade I bought them at in the early 2000's .