Home› U.S. Coin Forum
Options

Guess the Grade: 1843 half dime. GRADE REVEALED

LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭
edited March 14, 2017 1:08PM in U.S. Coin Forum

It's in an old, small, white ANACS holder.
What do you think they called it, way back then?


Here's another picture of the reverse, with a different lighting angle.

And our ANACS friends 25 or so years ago said...

I paid 63 money and was delighted to get it for that. There is no trace of rub. The luster is great, and the toning, to me, is pretty special.

...Tom

LRC Numismatics eBay listings:
http://stores.ebay.com/lrcnumismatics

Comments

  • Options
    MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58?

    Thanksgiving 2026 National Battlefield Coin Show November 27 & 28, 2026 at the Eisenhower Hotel Ballroom, Gettysburg, PA. No Early Bird passes for this show. WWW.AmericasCoinShows.com
  • Options
    USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My last GTG didn't turn out so well but I'll wager 63

  • Options
    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2017 2:27PM

    Which old Anacs holder? The original gold foil hologram reverse or a later version?

    Neat tri-cracked reverse. AU58 if only for the obverse high point "whiteness" which might only be from toning breaks. Field luster looks essentially 80-95%. Another one of those 58/63 coins. Today, it could end up 62/63 after repeated submission(s).

    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • Options
    LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    It's a hologram label on the reverse. Black, with two triangles each with ANACS underneath. These vary in color depending on the angle of the light.

    LRC Numismatics eBay listings:
    http://stores.ebay.com/lrcnumismatics

  • Options
    ajaanajaan Posts: 18,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63


    DPOTD-3
    'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'

    CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


    Don
  • Options
    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that the water weight gain version of Miss Liberty?

  • Options
    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58/61, not much luster.

  • Options
    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell, but I have a feeling there is more luster than the pics show.
    Looks like a very nice little coin, and I'm guessing it was conservatively graded.

    .

    Successful BST transactions with 177 members. breakdown, scotty1419, mattniss, bigjpst, onlyroosies, Manorcourtman, guitarwes, Ebeneezer, Tonedeaf, Shane6596, Piano1, Ikenefic, RG, PCGSPhoto, stman, Don'tTelltheWife, Boosibri, Ron1968, snowequities, VTchaser, jrt103, SurfinxHI, 78saen, bp777, FHC, RYK, JTHawaii, Opportunity, Kliao, bigtime36, skanderbeg, split37, thebigeng, acloco, Toninginthblood, OKCC, braddick, Coinflip, robcool, fastfreddie, tightbudget, DBSTrader2, nickelsciolist, relaxn, Eagle eye, soldi, silverman68, ElKevvo, sawyerjosh, Schmitz7, talkingwalnut2, konsole, sharkman987, sniocsu, comma, jesbroken, David1234, biosolar, Sullykerry, Moldnut, erwindoc, MichaelDixon, GotTheBug
  • Options
    No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cool die cracks
    64

  • Options
    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    The die cracks are cool.

    I'll say MS62 because of those

  • Options
    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

  • Options
    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 13, 2017 12:30AM

    Nice coin and photo.
    It is an example of what Valentine called V-2 or V-4 (they are the same die marriage).
    Valentine's photo of the V-2 shows the rim cud above star 9 on your coin,
    and his photo of the V-4 shows the 3 cracks on this shattered reverse.
    I recently did a survey of auction appearances for 1843 half dimes back to 2010, and this die marriage
    was the one most frequently encountered (23 appearances for this particular combination of die states;
    35 for the overall die marriage).
    I think the interesting cracks help to make it very popular.

    There is also a different shattered reverse for 1843, discussed in this thread:
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/909377/just-how-many-different-1843-shattered-reverse-half-dimes-are-there/p1

  • Options
    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 13, 2017 1:07AM

    Not sure about the grade but nice Cubs avatar!

  • Options
    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't get past thinking the obverse has been polished.

  • Options
    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63..... well...that is what I think it is.... no idea what it was graded then... Cheers, RickO

  • Options
    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 back in the day?
    I'll bet it's a delight in hand.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • Options
    LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, Boosibri! And I'm a Spartan, too. Go State!

    LRC Numismatics eBay listings:
    http://stores.ebay.com/lrcnumismatics

  • Options
    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Options
    MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tom, what is the grade?

    Thanksgiving 2026 National Battlefield Coin Show November 27 & 28, 2026 at the Eisenhower Hotel Ballroom, Gettysburg, PA. No Early Bird passes for this show. WWW.AmericasCoinShows.com
  • Options
    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS61

  • Options
    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Options
    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58. There appears to be a rub on her thigh, brow and left hand. Nice shattered reverse! Great coin all around.

    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

    BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore, Nickpatton, Namvet69,...
  • Options
    coinpro76coinpro76 Posts: 366 ✭✭✭

    62

    all around collector of many fine things

  • Options
    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. The 'guestimates' range from a high of MS-64 all the way down to AU-50, but neither of these extremes can I agree with. I have absolutely no idea what grade our hosts would bestow upon it, but I would grade it AU-55 if it were in my collection. I find the toning to be attractive, and the reverse die cracks to be very interesting [I have written much on the subject of the 1843 V4], but neither of these attributes affect grade. AU-55 in my opinion.

    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • Options
    LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    Grade revealed...

    LRC Numismatics eBay listings:
    http://stores.ebay.com/lrcnumismatics

  • Options
    kazkaz Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NIce little coin! I find it nearly impossible to assess luster and light wear on toned coins, so I would have guessed a range from 55-63.

  • Options
    CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60 then, probably 66 under the new modern grading >:) . Not sure the toning is NT, But it's very pretty

    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
  • Options
    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thought that there might be a rub on the knee which have made it an AU-58+. From the market perspective, MS-60 is okay. A little rub is better than a scratch so far as I'm concerned. Any of these pre-1853 U.S. silver coins are tough in high grade because so many were melted for there silver content.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Options
    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 14, 2017 2:16PM

    @LRCTom said:
    Thanks, Boosibri! And I'm a Spartan, too. Go State!

    The did you graduate? I'm 2004

  • Options
    LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    I'm old. MSU class of '73.

    LRC Numismatics eBay listings:
    http://stores.ebay.com/lrcnumismatics

  • Options
    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53 shot 55

  • Options
    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 14, 2017 4:22PM

    I see what looks like rub.....woulda said 55 shot 58.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • Options
    LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    It does look like rub in the picture, I agree. But in hand, there's no trace.

    LRC Numismatics eBay listings:
    http://stores.ebay.com/lrcnumismatics

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file