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Guess the Grade: 1843 half dime. GRADE REVEALED

LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭
edited March 14, 2017 1:08PM in U.S. Coin Forum

It's in an old, small, white ANACS holder.
What do you think they called it, way back then?


Here's another picture of the reverse, with a different lighting angle.

And our ANACS friends 25 or so years ago said...

I paid 63 money and was delighted to get it for that. There is no trace of rub. The luster is great, and the toning, to me, is pretty special.

...Tom

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58?

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  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My last GTG didn't turn out so well but I'll wager 63

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2017 2:27PM

    Which old Anacs holder? The original gold foil hologram reverse or a later version?

    Neat tri-cracked reverse. AU58 if only for the obverse high point "whiteness" which might only be from toning breaks. Field luster looks essentially 80-95%. Another one of those 58/63 coins. Today, it could end up 62/63 after repeated submission(s).

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  • LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    It's a hologram label on the reverse. Black, with two triangles each with ANACS underneath. These vary in color depending on the angle of the light.

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63


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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that the water weight gain version of Miss Liberty?

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58/61, not much luster.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell, but I have a feeling there is more luster than the pics show.
    Looks like a very nice little coin, and I'm guessing it was conservatively graded.

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  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cool die cracks
    64

  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    The die cracks are cool.

    I'll say MS62 because of those

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 13, 2017 12:30AM

    Nice coin and photo.
    It is an example of what Valentine called V-2 or V-4 (they are the same die marriage).
    Valentine's photo of the V-2 shows the rim cud above star 9 on your coin,
    and his photo of the V-4 shows the 3 cracks on this shattered reverse.
    I recently did a survey of auction appearances for 1843 half dimes back to 2010, and this die marriage
    was the one most frequently encountered (23 appearances for this particular combination of die states;
    35 for the overall die marriage).
    I think the interesting cracks help to make it very popular.

    There is also a different shattered reverse for 1843, discussed in this thread:
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/909377/just-how-many-different-1843-shattered-reverse-half-dimes-are-there/p1

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 13, 2017 1:07AM

    Not sure about the grade but nice Cubs avatar!

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't get past thinking the obverse has been polished.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63..... well...that is what I think it is.... no idea what it was graded then... Cheers, RickO

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 back in the day?
    I'll bet it's a delight in hand.

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  • LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, Boosibri! And I'm a Spartan, too. Go State!

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tom, what is the grade?

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS61

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58. There appears to be a rub on her thigh, brow and left hand. Nice shattered reverse! Great coin all around.

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  • coinpro76coinpro76 Posts: 366 ✭✭✭

    62

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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. The 'guestimates' range from a high of MS-64 all the way down to AU-50, but neither of these extremes can I agree with. I have absolutely no idea what grade our hosts would bestow upon it, but I would grade it AU-55 if it were in my collection. I find the toning to be attractive, and the reverse die cracks to be very interesting [I have written much on the subject of the 1843 V4], but neither of these attributes affect grade. AU-55 in my opinion.

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  • LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    Grade revealed...

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NIce little coin! I find it nearly impossible to assess luster and light wear on toned coins, so I would have guessed a range from 55-63.

  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60 then, probably 66 under the new modern grading >:) . Not sure the toning is NT, But it's very pretty

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thought that there might be a rub on the knee which have made it an AU-58+. From the market perspective, MS-60 is okay. A little rub is better than a scratch so far as I'm concerned. Any of these pre-1853 U.S. silver coins are tough in high grade because so many were melted for there silver content.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 14, 2017 2:16PM

    @LRCTom said:
    Thanks, Boosibri! And I'm a Spartan, too. Go State!

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  • LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    I'm old. MSU class of '73.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53 shot 55

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 14, 2017 4:22PM

    I see what looks like rub.....woulda said 55 shot 58.

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  • LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    It does look like rub in the picture, I agree. But in hand, there's no trace.

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