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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    An unabashed plug for Darrell.... I spotted a nice 1905-O Quarter in PCGS 50 on his eBay site
    a few minutes ago. Check it out, Mark, I think you might really like it.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I won a few misc. Heritage auctions - one coin for my V Nickel Proof Set:

    photo 1898 Nickel PCGS PR 65 CAC OBV_zpsziztomrz.jpg
    photo 1898 Nickel PCGS PR 65 CAC REV_zpsxlxcuzqg.jpg

    and another coin { a 1907 Quarter in PCGS 45 } for my cousin's son - who I'm mentoring in Barbers:

    photo 1907-P Quarter PCGS 45 OBV - MJF_zpsiyt8r5gq.jpgphoto 1907-P Quarter PCGS 45 REV - MJF_zpsl3nnkaby.jpg

    His Mom tells me how much he likes my Barber gifts... I think he'll like this one, too ! Its his Christmas present.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mark - Good call on sending the 05-O qtr back. IMO, very slim chance PC would grade it 40.

    Mike - Nice 07-D newp.

    Pics for this AM, from my raw set:


    Vern
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    mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

    Mike- I do like Darryl's 05-O in 50. Very nice coin

    Mark Brown

    Hoard the keys
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vern, '05-O is simply perfect for grade.

    My recent pick-up, a '14-S quarter in PC40 CAC green bean:


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    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

    @sedulous said:
    Vern, '05-O is simply perfect for grade.

    My recent pick-up, a '14-S quarter in PC40 CAC green bean:


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    Is that from David Lawrence? I was bidding but changed my mind. Super nice and so tough to find in 40

    Mark Brown

    Hoard the keys
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    DLRC, yes.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

    Sorry Tim. I bid you up in that one until I got sidetracked. Hopefully u still got a decent buy on it. I was out about 10days before it ended. It's a sweet coin.

    Mark Brown

    Hoard the keys
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2016 7:55PM

    I was top underbidder but still didn't reach reserve. I did a post auction wheel-n-deal to procure it also coughing up my F15 '14-S. I can get another Fine '14-S but it is rare to find an XF-AU with quality so I jumped. I agree with your assessment Mark.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations, Tim. I think we all know just how difficult it is to locate
    a really choice 1914-S Barber Quarter. I had a nice VF 30 - CAC before I
    located my current AU 58, a lot of blood - sweat and tears went into that.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mike, Thanks, I appreciated your advice from earlier. It was used to effect and contributed positively into the purchasing experience:

    "Tim.... I had a few trades that I no longer wanted - and from past experiences - when I see a coin I really want for my set - and I have a decent trade - the seller [if he/she is a Barber specialist of sorts] is usually receptive to the trade. Its not like I'm trying to unload VF common date material. I feel the offers are better if I am trying to upgrade a date by using my lower graded one as the grease. I get a much fairer offer - and my newp usually gets a minor shave off the price, too."

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    Mike - Nice proof 1898 V nickel and 07 quarter in 45 for your cousin's son. You're getting him started in the right way. I'm sure he will really like the coin.

    Vern - Sweet, raw 05-O.

    Tim - Good job wheeling-n-dealing for the 14-S in 40 CAC. It's tough to find that one nice.

    Milo

    *****

    What?!?! No Barber quarters in the mail today!?!? ... "heavy sigh" ...
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mike - Nice proof V Nick. You've got to be getting close to completion of your set.

    Tim - Good move with the trade up to your 14-S in XF. So tough to find nice like that.

    Pics for this AM, never seem to find AU V Nicks that I like. This one I bought raw at a local shop several years ago, now PC58:


    Vern
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vern, I was wondering if you had to do a lot of crack-outs to fill your raw quarter display set-up or were you pretty consistent / fortunate finding raw examples outright? I presume a lot of them were picked up from dealer tables at shows or from in-person collector-to-collector arrangements vs. online transactions? I am quickly facing the notion that it is getting close to the time to start cracking out the Fine or VF specimens from holders to place them into the Raymond. I am also thinking about continuing the search for equivalent, existing, raw examples. Thanks for your thoughts, T

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tim - I put together my raw set years ago (2003 to 2006), when most inexpensive coins were still raw. All were bought raw except the 01-S. In the years since, I've improved (some upgrades, some just better examples) many dates to bring the collection to the state it's in now. In its current composition, 7 dates have been cracked out of slabs. If I were building a set today, I'm guessing that at least half would have to come in slabs, probably more. Most of my set came from dealers at shows. I'm sure that if I were starting today, the majority would be acquired on-line. Looking back, I think the most enjoyment I have had in this wonderful hobby (other than get-togethers with other collector friends), was filling the holes in my raw barber quarter set. Thanks for asking. Writing this blurb has rekindled some fond memories.

    Pics for this AM, the 09-O in my raw set. Bought at a show from Brian Greer in 2005, when he had a hoard of 43 to choose from. Those were the good old days.


    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! I just looked at the POP reports on AU58 Baber Half's and the Pop of 1901-S has dropped from 4 to 2! Either 2 +'s are about to appear,2 tags were turned in,or someone got 2 58's into MS holders. If the Pop holds at 2 I don't feel so bad about the crazy money I paid for my 01-S!

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jeff, Taking a closer look, the 1894-O XF40 quarter matches what the Feigenbaum text states as "101" RPM. O over a more slender O. Not rare but neat. Going from memory (I pour over that Barber Quarter book quite often), I think David states perhaps 1 in 7 will be found with that RPM.

    If I could only be able to take pictures like you can... thanks for the images. I am thoroughly enjoying the purchase over and over again!

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    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @sedulous said:
    Jeff, Taking a closer look, the 1894-O XF40 quarter matches what the Feigenbaum text states as "101" RPM. O over a more slender O. Not rare but neat. Going from memory (I pour over that Barber Quarter book quite often), I think David states perhaps 1 in 7 will be found with that RPM.

    If I could only be able to take pictures like you can... thanks for the images. I am thoroughly enjoying the purchase over and over again!

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    Thanks for pointing it out! I looked at the '94 O in my set; it's not a RPM.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    UltraHighReliefUltraHighRelief Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So it looks like my old 1897 S 50c PCGS AU-58 CAC sold in the legend auction yesterday for $3,300! A far cry from where they used to be selling for!

    https://legendauctions.hibid.com/lot/28550119/50c-1897-s-pcgs-au58-cac/?q=1897&ref=catalog

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2016 12:14PM

    @UltraHighRelief said:
    So it looks like my old 1897 S 50c PCGS AU-58 CAC sold in the legend auction yesterday for $3,300! A far cry from where they used to be selling for!

    https://legendauctions.hibid.com/lot/28550119/50c-1897-s-pcgs-au58-cac/?q=1897&ref=catalog

    Wow! Legend doesn't seem to draw the Barber Collectors(or should I say Everyman Collectors :smiley: ). I watched the only 97-S in 58+ go for 8K in the Legend auction before. All it would have taken was 1 person to push up to between 15+20K knowing who bought it! Of course when 97-S's were bringing 15K the pop was 1 then 2..now there are 7. The 97-S was the last in the series to garner a 58 grade.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Last year at FUN in Tampa there were 3- PCGS 1897 S AU 58 for sale, all in excess of $9K. A friend of mine offered Liz at JJ Teaparty $7K- no deal. Is this the begining of the end for Everyman Barbers?

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffMTampa said:
    Last year at FUN in Tampa there were 3- PCGS 1897 S AU 58 for sale, all in excess of $9K. A friend of mine offered Liz at JJ Teaparty $7K- no deal. Is this the begining of the end for Everyman Barbers?

    I don't think so. Yeah...things are a little slow but I think that will change. Legend is absolutely not the venue for an AU58 Barber Half! An MS66 of course. I don't even check Legends auctions but I might have to start. I wouldn't have known about the 97-S in 58+ if a little birdie hadn't told me about it!

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    No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree 100 percent with Darrell. Wrong venue. Crazy to think a 9 plain brought more than. 97-s in the same week, plus or not!!! As Darrell stated it only takes two to double the price on a coin. Coins are slow now, but I feel it's just normal cycles in motion. I'm hoping to find a few Barber bargains at FUN. I believe it's a good time to buy.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jim, Perhaps it is a holiday thing and the collecting winds change for the better come January (or after IRS income tax checks come in).

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2016 6:38PM

    "No Headlights" / Jim: - thanks for the tip on the proof V Nickels -
    Only one was a CAC - no CAM's - and nothing screamed
    "take me away !"

    I just landed the 1898 V Nickel in PC PR 65 CAC - at Heritage the other night.
    I'm happy with getting one Proof every so often.


    Now, if the previous owner would be so kind as to delete it from his
    Registries , here and ATS ! Thanks !

    I also won a well toned Morgan for my 1889 Date Set - its only a 64 - no CAC [ yet ]
    and it looks very nice [ IMHO ]... out of the Legend Sale last night. Of course, I paid
    stupid money - then again - no one ever accused me of being too smart. :# I posted
    it to the 1889 Registry Sets... Michael J. Hayes.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2016 6:35PM

    I forgot what my old 97-S was like - had to look it up - its a 53 - albeit, a nice one.

    1897-S s Half PCGS 53 photo 1897-SHalfPCGS53DualCloseUpS.jpg

    The one that was in my current set is now entombed in Srotag's Kids Set - its a choice AU 50.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:

    @UltraHighRelief said:
    So it looks like my old 1897 S 50c PCGS AU-58 CAC sold in the legend auction yesterday for $3,300! A far cry from where they used to be selling for!

    https://legendauctions.hibid.com/lot/28550119/50c-1897-s-pcgs-au58-cac/?q=1897&ref=catalog

    Wow! Legend doesn't seem to draw the Barber Collectors(or should I say Everyman Collectors :smiley: ). I watched the only 97-S in 58+ go for 8K in the Legend auction before. All it would have taken was 1 person to push up to between 15+20K knowing who bought it! Of course when 97-S's were bringing 15K the pop was 1 then 2..now there are 7. The 97-S was the last in the series to garner a 58 grade.

    Just a question, Darrell. You see the 97-S go for moon money when it was top pop and then see it at a fraction when the pops rise. Do you not think the same thing will happen with the plus graded coins?

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2016 8:52PM

    Justin, That 97-S is a classic fall between the cracks coin IMHO. I confess I didn't know about it or it would have went for more! :smiley: The coin will eventually sell for double what it hammered for...watch for it on ebay or in a later heritage auction. If not I think there is a happy camper out there!

    Plus grades are a gamble if you are buying for future profit. If PCGS remains strict...you will likely see very few more graded 58+'s. I hold my breath as everyone knows grading standards can be relaxed. There is definitely a limited market for 58+'s at the level they have been selling for. They are rare and those that own them will have to be patient when the time comes to sell. I suppose I would loose my arse if I had to sell my registry set in a fire sale fashion. Patience over time and I believe I would reap a profit.

    The reason I didn't go after the 97-S 58+ in the legend auction is because I like my coin better. I saw all the other 5 97-S's in 58 before the + was made and I felt mine blew them all away! From Legend's pictures I still think I have the nicest 97-S in 58. Mine has that deep San Francisco Morgan Dollar fields and luster!

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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Darrell - If two 01-S halves made 58+, wouldn't they show up in the pop report at the same time the count dropped for regular 58's?

    Jeff - An extra bonus for your 94-O. Good eye Tim.

    As far as 97-S halves in 58 go, supply and demand is a factor in there somewhere.

    Justin - Good point.

    Darrell - Gambling that our hosts will remain strict on plus grades is really gambling IMO. Especially when the standard for what makes a plus grade is so vague.

    Pics for this AM, from Jim's No Headlight collection, PC40:


    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, Top Pop '95-O dime currently up for sale via a Heritage Auction looks awesome:
    http://www.collectorscorner.com/Products/Item.aspx?id=27626799

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Verne, I'm not sure. If they were sent in for reconsideration they might be removed from the Pop reports while they are in the process of being graded. On the coins I've sent in sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. The 1st time I sent in for reconsideration PCGS removed them and that pulled them from my registry set. I didn't know until I had several people contact me wondering if I was selling my set!

    That's a very nice 97-S 1/2!

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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tim - Wow 1895-O dime in 67.

    Here's a question for any who care to comment. After taking a good look at the HA pics, if you could have that 95-O, or the one pictured below for the same amount of money, which one would you take? (The one pictured below is the one that has appeared on the past 3 covers of the BCCS journal). It's an easy choice for me.

    Darrell - Interesting that sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. Kind of like grading.

    Pics for this AM, Dan's 95-O, PC65:


    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vern, you are right, it is a no brainer to pick the 'Dan' version IMO... unless you are interested in registry points. Of course, another option (only available to Dan) is to have BOTH! In reality, nothing beats Dan's dime I think... so nice! and to think I just need to pick up my latest Journal if I ever want to view it. Awesome.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 18, 2016 12:28PM

    My latest submission from arrived a few days ago. This 1887 5C made it into a 58 holder. :)

    I posted this coin a few months back; lot's of cool things going on with it.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭

    Vern: Every time you "pull out" the 1895-O dime, I marvel. It is a terrific specimen.
    All: To all the + folks, CAC'ers, *'s, etc. It should always be the coin only (not plastic, not grade) and "like what you buy". I know resale matters but if you have a real "looker" it will always sell (that is, if you really want to sell). I know as I look through my collection there are 55's that, IMO, are as good as you could want (as I think my "eye" is OK). I've attached examples of coins that I own or have owned, all that were not "stickered CAC" when purchased. Would you own them?






    Craig


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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's another Liberty Nickel that just returned from PCGS. A raw find, this 1890 returned in an AU 55 holder:


    This is now in my Everyman set. It has some sort of odd doubling around the rim under the date. Does anyone know what caused this? I haven't seen it before:

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm wondering if anyone besides me thinks that a 97-S half in 58 could never really have been worth north of 10K when a perfectly fine 55 or 63 was selling for less than half? I think this Legend auction shows where the price should have been all along, give or take a few hundred.

    More coins, less government.
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    No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lenny
    I feel Legend is the wrong venue to determine what high grade circ Barber are selling for. Typically they are sellers of much higher grade material. Think this coin went a little under the radar. The person who purchased the 97-S I feel got a reasonable price. Just as the person who paid almost the same money this week for a plus designation on a common date paid too much IMO. As always they are worth what someone is willing to pay. Save me some Florida sunshine. The "high" today was minus 5 degrees
    Jim

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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffMTampa said:

    My latest submission from arrived a few days ago. This 1887 5C made it into a 58 holder. :)

    I posted this coin a few months back; lot's of cool things going on with it.

    I really like this coin. It has a RPD that I have not seen before and is not in Flynn's book.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Labelman - seeing those wonderful Quarters is like a trip down Memory Lane.
    I agree, its nearly impossible to improve on these coins. Thanks for reposting.

    No new Barbers - but I picked up a couple of 1891 Seated Dimes.... see that Mega Thread.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Craig - Your pics say it better than any words, I'll take a nice 55 any day.

    Jeff - I think it's a type of machine doubling on the denticles. I can't recall noticing it before.

    Paesan - Our host's marketing people are geniuses.

    Jim - Brrrrrrrr.

    dbldie55 - Good eye.

    Mike - Heading to the seated thread next.

    Pics for this AM, a couple of pretty nice 55's. Happy to have them back home after a few years with Doug:




    Vern
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    UMCaneUMCane Posts: 213 ✭✭✭

    My Latest Addition to my US Type Set Registry...


    "Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sweet, gentle overcast and a nice look on that quarter Cane!

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My latest raw submission to PCGS had a few Barber Dimes in it. Two of them that I thought would go 58 came back in MS 62 holders.

    1899 10C MS 62:


    1914 S 10C PC MS 62:


    I know I should be happy they came back in 62 holders rather than 58, but my guess a 58 would have more value.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jeff, Awesome color, awesome dimes! I appreciate having you share your pictures!

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭

    Vern: The 98-S & the 09-O just the way nice coins should look. They would look terrific in Georgia! B)

    Craig


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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Labelman87 said:
    Vern: The 98-S & the 09-O just the way nice coins should look. They would look terrific in Georgia! B)

    Those coins would look terrific anywhere, but I'll bet Vern intends to keep them in the town where he lives.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Sent in 4 coins for myself to CAC - an 1893-S Dime in PCGS 58 ( yes, another dupe ) ; my recent
    1895-Phila Dime in PCGS 50 ; another recent Newp 1908-O Quarter in PCGS 58 and lastly, an 1832 Quarter in PCGS 25.

    I knew the 1832 would CAC - I was betting the 1893-S would green bean - but - I was
    unsure of the other two coins.

    Lo and Behold: Only the 1832 Quarter CAC'd. As Vern is known to say: "it's all a crap shoot".

    I also sent in 65 coins for a friend - I have not received that report yet.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    BTW.... I'm liking those two Quarters, Vern. Both should be in 55+ holders.
    I like my examples very much, but I wouldn't throw your babies out of bed
    for eating crackers. ( Yup, I'm showing my age I guess... !! )

    I saw that Heritage has two Quarters at auction - neither really impress me -
    1896-S in AU 53 ( looks nothing like my old 53 ) and a 1901-S in AU 50 ( this
    coin has been discussed previously, as it belonged to The Crabtree Brothers. ).

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    KAJ1KAJ1 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭

    This thread is still rocking strong. Hello all, it's been a long time since I checked in here. Our hosts have updated the site! Much easier. It's been 14 months since I bought a coin for the Mint set. More of a lack of funds, than lack of coins. So I saw this the other day and had to pull the trigger. This is a PCGS picture, as I don't have the coin in hand.
    PC ms 66+

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