Mike, I don't wander in to that part of the Registry very often.
For the 1st time since the late 90's I will not be at the Winter FUN show. My suspicions were also correct about the way FUN laid out the floor plan. They have again isolated the budget section from the rest of the show. This is wrong and really hurts the people set up in that section. Tampa was the 1st show where they did that. The traffic through the budget section was 30% of past shows. The last FUN show was absolutely by leap and bounds the worst FUN show I have ever had(The show in Tampa before was one of the best FUN shows I had ever had!). I suspect Ft. Lauderdale will be the same only more expensive to attend. Couple that with my rule of not doing a show I can comfortably drive home from in a day without stopping and it was an easy choice for me.
We'll miss you Darrell, but your reasoning is sound. Next year in Tampa bring one of those inflatable monster things that flop around for your spot- that will attract the traffic!
Mike, Thanks for the show invite to FUN but for the same reasons Darryl gave, it is too far from the central midwest to make a drive. Best wishes everyone on their show experience this January. If the BCCS ever has a GoToMeeting, Webex, or equivalent with phone bridge, I would love to try and participate realtime remotely.
T
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Tim - Definitely a fake. Agree with Doug on the mintmatk, which also looks slightly out of position as well. I'm guessing the buyer of this lot didn't know it was a fake.
Doug - Paesan (who has more of your babies than I), and I are taking good care of them. We both thank you for passing the best everyman collection of barber qtrs ever, along to us the way you did. Also, too bad the weatherman got in the way of our get together in Iowa City today.
Mike - Glad you got the hole filled after all those years.
Wish I could go to FUN but I'm working 7days a week and it's not in the cards for me at this time. Maybe I'll see you guys at the next Baltimore show.
I picked up another raw quarter a few days ago and if it's nice in hand I think it has a good shot of a shiny new slab to protect it. I'm gna send her into our host along with a beautiful toned 92 ICG 58 and a awesome toned Walker and a few of quarters I want reholdered.
Dr. Pete: You might consider a by type, by decade, by mint mark "super" type Liberty Head $20 set. Personally, I am seeking one last coin to complete the 24 coin set. Take a look as the O mints will challenge.
Mike: The 1909-S VDB Lincoln looks very nice but, unfortunately, it is a copy.
The 07-O Quarters are first rate. How about some early O Quarters.
A recent O mint of mine. I'm convinced this date is one of the hardest to find in VF in acceptable condition. And acceptable doesn't mean all that are gradable.
One of my favorite dates, Justin. That's a good looking one.
What did the coin get for a sentence from PCGS ? I'm thinking 30 ?
Vern ... Two very tough dates in the Dime series. Both very choice.
Agree with the grades...40 & 45.... I just traded my 1903-S in 40 for
my newest AU 55.
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Mike, Have you found it best in your past experience to "trade in" as you state or sell outright and use the funds for a new purchase? How often is it important to have something that might be desireable for one person in order to facilitate freeing up the thing you night want in trade? Thanks in advance for the insight. Looking for frequency in how the different scenarios might play out.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Mark...Good luck with the Cross Over... hard to call it from the images.
Tim.... I had a few trades that I no longer wanted - and from past experiences -
when I see a coin I really want for my set - and I have a decent trade - the seller
[if he/she is a Barber specialist of sorts ] is usually receptive to the trade. Its not
like I'm trying to unload VF common date material. I feel the offers are better if I
am trying to upgrade a date by using my lower graded one as the grease. I get a
much fairer offer - and my newp usually gets a minor shave off the price, too.
Still knocking on doors for the last few AU 58 Nickel, Dimes and Quarters I'm looking for.
My Proof Nickels are slowing getting attention - as are my Dimes. No more Proof Quarters
for this guy - too pricey !! I have one - an 1892 Ty 1 - PCGS 65+ CAM - that's good enough for me.
I received the 1892 Proof Dime - PCGS 63 CAM w/ CAC - far far nicer than I ever expected.
I hope to locate the rest I'm missing that will be the mates to this newp 1892 !
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If we are doing a guess the Grade on Justin's 98-O I grade it 20. I could see it in a 25 holder due to originality....but never a 30 holder! In fact on a rough day at PCGS it might even come back a 15!
I'll play - 1898-O: lack of band under "LIBERTY" tells me maybe a 20... but then I look at the obverse head laurel leaves definition and reverse shield vertical line definition telling me I need to revise up to a 25. At AU, luster is king, in lesser grades it is color and quality of surfaces. I'll guess VF25 for you Justin.
T
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Jeff:
Why it's a 63 is beyond me. The OBV has a small pin dot that would drop it from a 66 or so.
Other than that one miniscule lint Mark ( just a guess ), it's a Gem Proof. It's so much nicer
"In hand", too.
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Mike I also can't see why that proof dime isn't a 66 or son everything seems perfect except the one micro tick. Maybe I'd crack it out and resubmit. I want a proof dime I just haven't found the right one yet.
Peasan- that's a truly beautiful dime.
Vern- TY it's 1 of 3 coins I'm gna attempt to cross at our host.
Here is one I'm most excited about probably. Y'all think she is a solid 40?
Mark, hopefully the picture but I see a chance it will not straight grade(old cleaning or environmental issues). I also think PCGS would grade it 35 due to the weakness of strike.
The picture seems a little washed out and I hope it will look better in hand. The light exposure seems to be better on the reverse near "UNIT" - that part looks nice and may indicate the rest of the coin might look much nicer with improved pic lighting. Hard to tell from the pic but if it turns out to be original surfaces, you might hope for a 35 grade but I think it might go 30 actually. The band under LIBERTY headband is not complete and more closely matches my other graded 30's in my own collection. The 35's have a more complete underneath band IMHO. If the surfaces actually do come off opaque as per the pictures and have unnatural surface quality, I don't know if it will grade or not. I will err on the side of it grading and becoming a PCGS VF-30. I do like the reverse by the way. Too dark on the obverse for me to make an accurate judgement on that. Once again, only my opinion. Best wishes to success for you!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Feigenbaum text on the '05-O: "One of my favorite dates. Not quite as scarce as the 1901-O, 1908-S, or 1909-O, but on everyone's want list just the same. Comes with a satiny luster and moderate O-mint strike. As of March 1994, a total of five MS-65 and four MS-66 gems have been certified and some of these have beautiful toning. But most of the lower grade uncs seem to be lackluster. The most underrated date in the set; undervalued in all grades except gem condition. This coin has such demand that even coins with light scratches, rim bumps or other minor problems sell for full price or higher."
Personally, I like any quarter dated '05-O... it is that tough in mid-grades. Be proud of that pick-up Mark. Hopefully you can see from the Feigenbaum text why I have an interest in increasing knowledge around mid-grade circulated specimens and the circulation pattern of them once released. The emphasis the author had at the time was biased towards uncirculated. In recent years, the price point has escalated out of the reach of many collectors for those top-end grades.
T
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I would put the '05 O Half in a 40 holder. I don't think the surfaces looked cleaned, but they do lack depth. The coin suffers from a very weak obverse strike, contributing to what appears to be wear. I question if the bottom of the LIBERTY band struck up much at all. The '05 O half is a VERY tough date in XF to AU.
I remember a few years back both Darrell and I were looking for a nice AU coin. Darrell had a MS63 in his set and I had a cleaned AU. Darrell came across a 50 (as I recall) and sold me his MS 63. I was hoping I could get it in a 58 holder as it looked to me like there was a luster break on the cheek. I sent the coin in on the "Reconsideration" level to PCGS; the coin returned in a 64 holder. I ended up finding a raw '05 O (cheap) that graded AU 58 shortly thereafter. Eventually I traded the MS 64 back to Darrell for something. I wonder whatever happened to that coin?
Mark
In my experience PCGS seems to be a little generous with the grading of 05-O halves and quarters. IF it grades I would wager it comes back a 40. I would say 35 if I was grading it. Good luck
Jim
This arrived this afternoon, it's much nicer in hand - which is usually the case.
Thanks again, John of CRO.... Now: where's my baseball cap,from CRO ??
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If it was a half, I think I would agree more closely to Jeff's comments. Courtesy of Heritage, here are some headband close-ups of '05-O VF-30's... I'll showcase the ones from our hosts:
Darrel I had paid for it already and the guy still was nice enough to cancel to avoid wasting both our time. 40 is the lowest grade I want in semi-key and Key dates so I will keep looking
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Darrel I had paid for it already and the guy still was nice enough to cancel to avoid wasting both our time. 40 is the lowest grade I want in semi-key and Key dates so I will keep looking
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Mike, I don't wander in to that part of the Registry very often.
For the 1st time since the late 90's I will not be at the Winter FUN show. My suspicions were also correct about the way FUN laid out the floor plan. They have again isolated the budget section from the rest of the show. This is wrong and really hurts the people set up in that section. Tampa was the 1st show where they did that. The traffic through the budget section was 30% of past shows. The last FUN show was absolutely by leap and bounds the worst FUN show I have ever had(The show in Tampa before was one of the best FUN shows I had ever had!). I suspect Ft. Lauderdale will be the same only more expensive to attend. Couple that with my rule of not doing a show I can comfortably drive home from in a day without stopping and it was an easy choice for me.
We'll miss you Darrell, but your reasoning is sound. Next year in Tampa bring one of those inflatable monster things that flop around for your spot- that will attract the traffic!
Mike, Thanks for the show invite to FUN but for the same reasons Darryl gave, it is too far from the central midwest to make a drive. Best wishes everyone on their show experience this January. If the BCCS ever has a GoToMeeting, Webex, or equivalent with phone bridge, I would love to try and participate realtime remotely.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Dr Pete - Good to hear from you.
Tim - Definitely a fake. Agree with Doug on the mintmatk, which also looks slightly out of position as well. I'm guessing the buyer of this lot didn't know it was a fake.
Doug - Paesan (who has more of your babies than I), and I are taking good care of them. We both thank you for passing the best everyman collection of barber qtrs ever, along to us the way you did. Also, too bad the weatherman got in the way of our get together in Iowa City today.
Mike - Glad you got the hole filled after all those years.
Pics for this AM, a genuine 96-S, PC50:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern, Perfect color and surfaces on that '96-S! Looks like a #2 obverse per BCCS authentication page.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Mike,
I will make every effort to cross paths with you while at FUN
Vern-that 96-S is perfect in my eyes.
Wish I could go to FUN but I'm working 7days a week and it's not in the cards for me at this time. Maybe I'll see you guys at the next Baltimore show.
I picked up another raw quarter a few days ago and if it's nice in hand I think it has a good shot of a shiny new slab to protect it. I'm gna send her into our host along with a beautiful toned 92 ICG 58 and a awesome toned Walker and a few of quarters I want reholdered.
Hoard the keys
Vern....that's my idea of a Gold CAC 1896-S AU 50 !!
Very nice pick-up !!
Good job, Mark. That's a very nice AU Quarter as well.
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Dr. Pete: You might consider a by type, by decade, by mint mark "super" type Liberty Head $20 set. Personally, I am seeking one last coin to complete the 24 coin set. Take a look as the O mints will challenge.
Mike: The 1909-S VDB Lincoln looks very nice but, unfortunately, it is a copy.
The 07-O Quarters are first rate. How about some early O Quarters.
Craig, Love seeing the different O mintmark positions on those reverses of the quarters! All Type 2
Oops, I should look more closely... a '92, '93, and '94. All very nice!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
A recent O mint of mine. I'm convinced this date is one of the hardest to find in VF in acceptable condition. And acceptable doesn't mean all that are gradable.
Nice 1898-O!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Justin, Nice '98-O, I agree with Tom
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Mark-
Great looking raw '03 Quarter Looks 53/ 55 5o me.
Justin- The '98 O is tough, and that's a good looking one. It \needs some plastic around it....
Justin,
Very nice 98-O. That's a big one to get. Congrats.
Jim
It already has a PCGS jail cell.
Tim - I'd agree, die #2.
Mark - Congrats on the '03 newp.
Craig - Good looking early "O" 's.
Justin - IMO, perfect look for a VF, and such a tough date. Congratulations.
Pics for this AM, a couple more of Dan's dimes, just back from our hosts, 40 and 45:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
One of my favorite dates, Justin. That's a good looking one.
What did the coin get for a sentence from PCGS ? I'm thinking 30 ?
Vern ... Two very tough dates in the Dime series. Both very choice.
Agree with the grades...40 & 45.... I just traded my 1903-S in 40 for
my newest AU 55.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Mike, Have you found it best in your past experience to "trade in" as you state or sell outright and use the funds for a new purchase? How often is it important to have something that might be desireable for one person in order to facilitate freeing up the thing you night want in trade? Thanks in advance for the insight. Looking for frequency in how the different scenarios might play out.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here's my latest NewP for the Type set. It's in an anacs 53 holder and I imagine it may go a 50 at our host. These pictures are not the best.
Hoard the keys
Mark...Good luck with the Cross Over... hard to call it from the images.
Tim.... I had a few trades that I no longer wanted - and from past experiences -
when I see a coin I really want for my set - and I have a decent trade - the seller
[if he/she is a Barber specialist of sorts ] is usually receptive to the trade. Its not
like I'm trying to unload VF common date material. I feel the offers are better if I
am trying to upgrade a date by using my lower graded one as the grease. I get a
much fairer offer - and my newp usually gets a minor shave off the price, too.
Still knocking on doors for the last few AU 58 Nickel, Dimes and Quarters I'm looking for.
My Proof Nickels are slowing getting attention - as are my Dimes. No more Proof Quarters
for this guy - too pricey !! I have one - an 1892 Ty 1 - PCGS 65+ CAM - that's good enough for me.
I received the 1892 Proof Dime - PCGS 63 CAM w/ CAC - far far nicer than I ever expected.
I hope to locate the rest I'm missing that will be the mates to this newp 1892 !
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
If we are doing a guess the Grade on Justin's 98-O I grade it 20. I could see it in a 25 holder due to originality....but never a 30 holder!
In fact on a rough day at PCGS it might even come back a 15!
I'll play - 1898-O: lack of band under "LIBERTY" tells me maybe a 20... but then I look at the obverse head laurel leaves definition and reverse shield vertical line definition telling me I need to revise up to a 25. At AU, luster is king, in lesser grades it is color and quality of surfaces. I'll guess VF25 for you Justin.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
It is in a 25 holder, though like Darrell, I feel it's probably a 20 with a bump for the originality.
I will be at FUN in my usual capacity of numismatist at HLRC.com. I plan to attend the PCGS luncheon on Friday with Janice.
See you then, Dr. Pete. My best to Janice.
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Mike-
I lov e your new Proof dime. It has a wonderful look to it.
Jeff:
Why it's a 63 is beyond me. The OBV has a small pin dot that would drop it from a 66 or so.
Other than that one miniscule lint Mark ( just a guess ), it's a Gem Proof. It's so much nicer
"In hand", too.
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Mike I also can't see why that proof dime isn't a 66 or son everything seems perfect except the one micro tick. Maybe I'd crack it out and resubmit. I want a proof dime I just haven't found the right one yet.
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Mark - Nice date for your dime type.
Mike - Very nice proof for a 63.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC62:
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Peasan- that's a truly beautiful dime.
Vern- TY it's 1 of 3 coins I'm gna attempt to cross at our host.
Here is one I'm most excited about probably. Y'all think she is a solid 40?
Hoard the keys
Mark, hopefully the picture but I see a chance it will not straight grade(old cleaning or environmental issues). I also think PCGS would grade it 35 due to the weakness of strike.
Darryl it's oic from the seller. Its in a anacs yellow xf-40 holder right now. Once I get it in hand I'll know more
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It's a solid VF 35 - not accounting for the odd blackish toning.
Whether or not it straight grades is another story.
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The picture seems a little washed out and I hope it will look better in hand. The light exposure seems to be better on the reverse near "UNIT" - that part looks nice and may indicate the rest of the coin might look much nicer with improved pic lighting. Hard to tell from the pic but if it turns out to be original surfaces, you might hope for a 35 grade but I think it might go 30 actually. The band under LIBERTY headband is not complete and more closely matches my other graded 30's in my own collection. The 35's have a more complete underneath band IMHO. If the surfaces actually do come off opaque as per the pictures and have unnatural surface quality, I don't know if it will grade or not. I will err on the side of it grading and becoming a PCGS VF-30. I do like the reverse by the way. Too dark on the obverse for me to make an accurate judgement on that. Once again, only my opinion. Best wishes to success for you!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Feigenbaum text on the '05-O: "One of my favorite dates. Not quite as scarce as the 1901-O, 1908-S, or 1909-O, but on everyone's want list just the same. Comes with a satiny luster and moderate O-mint strike. As of March 1994, a total of five MS-65 and four MS-66 gems have been certified and some of these have beautiful toning. But most of the lower grade uncs seem to be lackluster. The most underrated date in the set; undervalued in all grades except gem condition. This coin has such demand that even coins with light scratches, rim bumps or other minor problems sell for full price or higher."
Personally, I like any quarter dated '05-O... it is that tough in mid-grades. Be proud of that pick-up Mark. Hopefully you can see from the Feigenbaum text why I have an interest in increasing knowledge around mid-grade circulated specimens and the circulation pattern of them once released. The emphasis the author had at the time was biased towards uncirculated. In recent years, the price point has escalated out of the reach of many collectors for those top-end grades.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I would put the '05 O Half in a 40 holder. I don't think the surfaces looked cleaned, but they do lack depth. The coin suffers from a very weak obverse strike, contributing to what appears to be wear. I question if the bottom of the LIBERTY band struck up much at all. The '05 O half is a VERY tough date in XF to AU.
I remember a few years back both Darrell and I were looking for a nice AU coin. Darrell had a MS63 in his set and I had a cleaned AU. Darrell came across a 50 (as I recall) and sold me his MS 63. I was hoping I could get it in a 58 holder as it looked to me like there was a luster break on the cheek. I sent the coin in on the "Reconsideration" level to PCGS; the coin returned in a 64 holder. I ended up finding a raw '05 O (cheap) that graded AU 58 shortly thereafter. Eventually I traded the MS 64 back to Darrell for something. I wonder whatever happened to that coin?
Jeff....put your contacts back in...lol....that's a Quarter... Not a Half !!
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Mark
In my experience PCGS seems to be a little generous with the grading of 05-O halves and quarters. IF it grades I would wager it comes back a 40. I would say 35 if I was grading it. Good luck
Jim
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This arrived this afternoon, it's much nicer in hand - which is usually the case.
Thanks again, John of CRO.... Now: where's my baseball cap,from CRO ??
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If it was a half, I think I would agree more closely to Jeff's comments. Courtesy of Heritage, here are some headband close-ups of '05-O VF-30's... I'll showcase the ones from our hosts:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I decided to not risk that much $$ on the 05-o. A 40 is the lowest grade I want in my set. TY everyone for the opinions
Hoard the keys
Compare to a PC40 '05-O quarter... not that terribly different but the surfaces Mark ends up getting on his '05-O can have some grade weighting...
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Jeff, That 05-O went up North along with my 96-O in 55.
Wow! It's already relisted!
Mark,You shouldda had David Lawrence send it to NGC for you and then crossed it over. Here's a VF20 Half I purchased from them!
Darrel I had paid for it already and the guy still was nice enough to cancel to avoid wasting both our time. 40 is the lowest grade I want in semi-key and Key dates so I will keep looking
Hoard the keys
Mike
The 07-D looks like a winner. Congrats
Jim
Doah!! I'll look closer next time.....
Mike, very nice new '07 D Quarter!
This was a dry attempt at humor!