Bumping one of my Box of 20 for my new Pan-American medal. Which would you send packing?
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That new MacNeil Pan-American Exposition bronze medal I posted a couple of weeks back is preparing to enter my "official" Box of 20. In keeping with the philosophy of a box of 20 collection, I've got to cut someone in order to incorporate this new piece.
Replacing pieces in my Box of 20 is becoming more and more difficult the more advanced my collection becomes. In the past, there were several place-holders, or representative pieces, which I knew weren't going to be final, end-all pieces in the collection. This new Pan-American bronze piece is one I'm proud to include in my collection.
Some of these pieces might seem out of place or considerably less significant to other collectors. Understanding that, which piece would you remove (and by remove I mean liquidate) from my Box of 20 Collection to make room for the MacNeil piece?
--Severian the Lame
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No brainer in my view, the DCarr piece
I have to agree that the DCarr piece should be the first to go. However, I'd be happy to purchase Queen Jadwiga from you!
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I agree with Catbert. I also think it would be interesting if you'd narrow down your candidates to maybe 5 and then post a poll for posters to vote which of the 5 should go. You could see if there is something approaching a consensus.
I would get rid of the 2004 Germany one. Too boxy for my taste.
Come on! Let Queen Jadwiga be free!
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--Severian the Lame
I know! I know! But she looks pretty darn good for someone 640-years old!
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You completely mis-understand the box of 20 rule.
Now you just have two boxes of 20. Only one in the second box.
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Easy. The 2004A Bauhaus whatever it is. What were you thinking with that one? They are all so wonderful. What a collection!!!!!
I'd say the DCarr personally. If not that, then the Buffalo or the 1968 Mexico piece.
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I would take out the 2004-A Germany silver 10 euro. My 2nd choice would be the San Diego, even with the gold bean. But I do think a (pre-1934) classic commemorative deserves a spot your Box. How about a nice Panama Pacific 50c to go along with your outstanding Pan-Pac G$1?
Either the DCarr piece or the Morgan. Either one is infinitely replaceable.
Either the DCarr piece, the 2004 German piece or the San Diego commemorative......likely in that order.
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I agree with Hydrant..
21 is an interesting number, don't you think?
Be a rebel.
The 1881-S dollar should be the first to go ... common, common, common even in that condition.
I always thought the box of 20 concept was an incredibly dumb idea. Why anyone would limit themselves to just 20 coins is beyond me.
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First the "fantasy" Peace, then on your next upgrade the Hudson.
Some great pieces.
Otherwise you'd need a second box.
There is a limit on the number of boxes of 20??? Okay, dump the 1932, Carr, or Morgan.
The new medal is definitely top 5!
My box of 20 sample collection has 20 boxes of 20 in it.
Agree that the Carr or Morgan should go. Good luck deciding!
Morgan.
The 2004 Germany
Sell the DCarr piece to me.... It does not fit the theme of your box of 20....and the new one will compliment your collections very well..... Cheers, RickO
Now wait a minute... Unless your cutting that 64mm medal into 4 pizza slices there's no way it's fitting in the box anyway!
What an eclectic mix of specimens! I have just spent an hour or so looking into just a few of the examples you have posted and am amazed at the variety in your "box of twenty". It seems that I'm with the crowd as to the German Bauhaus being the one to go.
I would pull one of the Fultons, possibly the HK375. You have 2 with the same theme. Barring that the Germany as yes, it is an interesting design, it is not as classically beautiful as the others. Then the Carr...which is also nice and represents a fantasy piece is a duplicate of your 21.
Really nice box...
K
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I TOTALLY AGREE!
Great input, guys. Looks like the dcarr piece is the overwhelming unfavorite.
I referenced that some pieces might not have the same importance to others as they do to me.
The Bauhaus piece is important for many reasons. Bauhaus was an art and design school (literally and figuratively) in Germany in the 1920s. This is what the piece commemorates. My parents, now both gone, were artists and were both fond of several of the Bauhaus-affiliated designers. This is in some way an homage to them.
But equally important is that the Bauhaus name was used by the eponymous post-punk goth band of the late 1970s and early 1980s, one of my all time favorites. Paintings by both my mom and dad hang on my walls as I type. A painting by Bauhaus guitarist Daniel Ash, one of several famous rock musicians in my art collection (for lack of a better word), hangs opposite me as I type this, too.
The coin is also one of the few modern pieces in my collection spanning 2600 years, and the only piece from the 21st century.
I'm not saying it won't eventually get cycled out. But it's not one I've considered for this switch.
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It's funny: of all the amazing coins in your box of 20: the Bauhaus coin made me go: ooh, want! Very cool design! I think part of its appeal is that is is quite different from typical coins.
I clearly have a minority opinion, but different strokes/folks.
Why limit yourself to 20 coins if it means selling something you really want to keep. I don't understand this Box of 20 thing at all. I couldn't even do a 20 Boxes of 20 with my little herd of Dimes!
I agree with most, and have thought the 2004A and the "1964-D" stick out like sore thumbs since you first posted this 20
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Dcarr piece first then the 2004 German piece
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The dcarr piece it is officially out.
Here is the new and improved Box of 20, with a few items rearranged to make a better theme. Comments welcome, especially if you think something should go somewhere else in relation to another piece, and why.
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The DCarr piece would be the first to go for me followed by the 1881-S Dollar, which is a "so what" so far as I'm concerned.
However if you decide to dump on of the Lydian pieces, let me know.
Comments welcome? Free Queen Jadwiga!
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For those scoring at home, in addition to the dcarr (which I'd put up on the block in my mind) I actually considered axing the Wiener (which sounds pretty painful).
That's an ex-CRO piece and still in their hall of fame "archive". It's one of maybe two or three Wieners known struck in silver rather than bronze, and it's pretty impressive in-hand.
But it doesn't seem part of the theme I can see in the box.
The $20 Saint was also a candidate. I got that raw for melt and sent it to NGC as an afterthought. So it's really just pretty bullion. Maybe I'll get a high relief some day and that will be when I swap it out. I named my son August in part because of St. Gaudens, so I'd like to have one of his pieces in the mix.
The 1881-S is a dime a dozen, no doubt. But it is the most spectacular Morgan I've ever seen in hand. Pictures don't do it justice. A beefy strike, beautiful chrome cameo devices and miles-deep mirrors with a gorgeous, smokey tobacco umber tone just where you'd want it. I'm actually not a Morgan fan, which is one of the reasons I like this piece so much. Sorry for those who spend 5 figures or more chasing Morgans. I found the perfect representation of the series and it cost me $300 IIRC.
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Interesting perspective. Typically the Wiener medals seem to go best with themselves, in a set of other cathedral medals.
For what it's worth, I love the color on the British Trade Dollar. Let me know if you ever want to let it go!
The concept can be executed in more than one way. After all it's your hobby. Put together a box of 20 coins out of your collection (containing more coins) that could be used as a showcase to impress specific audiences from non-collectors to long-time collectors and specialists. What, in your collection, would fit in each box? How would you go about selecting something to upgrade each box?
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Exactly!
Although I would love to make you an offer for the George V crown.
Agree
I can see the San Diego going, eventually. I got this pretty cheap from my B&M years ago. It's pretty. It's in a rattler (you'll notice several of these pieces are in first generation holders, another theme I'd like to preserve and even build on). It's also the DDD RPM, quintuple-die reverse. And CAC gave it a gold bean last year.
That said, it's not especially rare and it isn't my favorite early commem, one of which I feel is important to have in the box. So maybe someday it will go in favor of a spectacular Isabella, Columbus, Connecticut, or Lafayette.
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I like the box of 20 concept but I think that it should just be a starting point. I agree with the others that, after it's full, another one can or should be started. When I started my Walker set I just had one 20 coin box that I was trying to fill. But once I reached that milestone; I just continued as my collection progressed. Now, I have nearly 3 full boxes (of Walkers).
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Weiss. I've enjoyed reading your thread and appreciate your openness to feedback. As you describe what is dear and what isn't, I think I'd sell all that doesn't really thrill so as to build a war chest for opportunistic purchases that do produce that stimulus. this approach could make you more efficient in avoiding the costs associated with churn.
None start a new box of 20.
Hoard the keys.
There ya go.....I have about 60 boxes going.
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