Originally posted by: KendallCat Was searching Mantle card threads and found this one, and curious as to how everyone is doing on their Mantle cards/runs
Think I have hit the wall on mine after a couple years of charging hard after it for centered, crisp examples. Harboring thin hopes of encountering true "card" upgrades of a few of my early Bowmans, but that would be all I'd do. Feels good to have the run done. The registry digital binder is a great way to stay connected with your cards and look at them ten times a day
This is a great thread. Unfortunately I don't have some of these Mantles anymore. I changed gears with my collecting focus and needed to create funds in order to move forward. The cards posted in this thread are still really nice to look at. The '56 Mantle was tough to give up and I hope to add it back sometime in the future.
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
Kendall - That really was a nice 8 that was sold last night. In general though, those 56 Mantles in PSA 8's and above are on fire. I remember someone buying a 9 for $12,000 back around 2011. Now they are $40,000+. PSA 8's were around 5-6K range around this time last year. When I bought mine back in mid March of this year, I took a screenshot of the VCP average and it was at $7607 (except I paid more around todays price for mine because of its centering). Today it's at $9939. Two years or less - the 8's will be at $15,000.
Dberk - I know exactly were your coming from in refernce to having to let stuff go in order to generate funds for new stuff. Sometimes you have to do that in order not to put yourself in a hole. It happens. I had to sell off like 7 or 8 cards to be able to get my 56 PSA 8. I saw them continue to soar and I knew that once it becamame a 10K card and higher, the real probabilty of me owning one was very little to none. One card that I really hated myself for letting go was the 93 Jeter SP in a 9. That card I bought for around $1320 back in Oct 2013 and sold mine earlier this year and made only about a $300 profit off it (which was decent at that time) but when you consider how much I would have to pay to get one now, ughh, I hate looking at them in VCP because I know they just will continue to rise in price. But I'll get one very soon because that will be a 5k card before he gets in the HOF.
The '53 Mick is probably my favorite Mantle card and most likely my top 5 overall favorite card. Picked this up back in May from begsu1013. He was gracious enough to part with it for me. I was watching the '54 Red Heart Mantle PSA 6 in PWCC auction but got home late and then family matters hit so I missed out. Bummer.
Homerun on that 53B. The kind of card you can put in a wall display or on a desk stand and it hits the eye so well. Great pickup. And perhaps 1 in every 50 of that card is framed that beautifully. Maybe even fewer. That's an aspect utterly belied by the flips.
Agreed. Your 53T Mantle completely exploits the loop hole in the TPG system that frequently fails to quantify eye appeal. Great to look at and even better for the card budget.
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
I have definitely morphed over the last few years to where the overall grade doesn't mean nearly as much. I still marvel and respect high grade material, but to me, lower grade cards with eye appeal that exceeds the technical grade are the real treasures.
Muffins - Yeah, Bob has an incredible collection and an impeccable eye. I'm very grateful/lucky he let it go. I stare at it practically everyday.
Originally posted by: PaulMaul The irony is that PSA claims that eye appeal is a hugely important factor.
Great point. From my collecting/shopping experience, it's just sadly not the case. Too many ugly 9s and gorgeous cards held back by some trifling technical flaw out there bear this out. One of the latter is my avatar.
Originally posted by: PaulMaul The irony is that PSA claims that eye appeal is a hugely important factor.
I've never seen them claim that and would be interested to see where they have. From what I've seen them print, market acceptance is equally as high as eye appeal in assessing a grade. I've only seen that eye appeal can sway a borderline card one way or the other from it's technical merits: while most cards fall clearly within the centering guidelines for a particular grade, some cards fall either just within or just outside the printed centering standards.The key point to remember is that the graders reserve the right, based on the strength or weakness of the eye appeal, to make a judgment call on the grade of a particular card.
and
What will the market accept for this particular issue?
and
The bottom line is that there are times when a PSA grader must make a call on a card that falls on the line between two grades and that final determination is made based on experience, eye appeal and market acceptability.
I, for one, am glad their grading scale is not primarily eye appeal based, pinholded PSA 1s are much more pocketbook friendly than PSA 7s and many look as nice or nicer.
I hear you on the pinholes. Time was, back in the day, I figured a nice '52 Topps Mick but with a pinhole would be my ticket to owning that card. Not so now, even pinholed ones are beyond what I can afford.
Hi KendallCat - I am the owner of this 56' Mick and I see you had it posted up above. Did you own this card at one time?
ToneD - sweet 53!! That is definitely a Make, Model and Year I would like to have.
Yes - I owned that 56 Mantle in an 8.5 last year, and had to sell it so I could fund the Mantle rookie I bought last November. Unfortunately as much as I wanted to keep it financially it made sense at the time to move it to pay for the rookie. Glad someone on here got the card, and it is a beautiful card. Hopefully at some point in the future I will get another 8.5 again.
The 56 Mantle PSA 8 in this thread I sold in AC this year. I had three of them, and moved two of them to pick up a couple of Gehrig's as well as a Ruth. I bought the PSA 8 from BBCE after months of checking out literally 15-20 PSA 8's, and I thought it was the best of the bunch. Once I finish my Mantle run I will try to go back and grab a couple more 56's - such a great looking card. Thank you for the note.
Originally posted by: Dnice Kendall - That really was a nice 8 that was sold last night. In general though, those 56 Mantles in PSA 8's and above are on fire. I remember someone buying a 9 for $12,000 back around 2011. Now they are $40,000+. PSA 8's were around 5-6K range around this time last year. When I bought mine back in mid March of this year, I took a screenshot of the VCP average and it was at $7607 (except I paid more around todays price for mine because of its centering). Today it's at $9939. Two years or less - the 8's will be at $15,000.
Dberk - I know exactly were your coming from in refernce to having to let stuff go in order to generate funds for new stuff. Sometimes you have to do that in order not to put yourself in a hole. It happens. I had to sell off like 7 or 8 cards to be able to get my 56 PSA 8. I saw them continue to soar and I knew that once it becamame a 10K card and higher, the real probabilty of me owning one was very little to none. One card that I really hated myself for letting go was the 93 Jeter SP in a 9. That card I bought for around $1320 back in Oct 2013 and sold mine earlier this year and made only about a $300 profit off it (which was decent at that time) but when you consider how much I would have to pay to get one now, ughh, I hate looking at them in VCP because I know they just will continue to rise in price. But I'll get one very soon because that will be a 5k card before he gets in the HOF.
I would like to think this card would get to that level but not sure if it will be a $15k card. I grabbed a bunch when they were in the $3200-3800 range thinking they would go up due to the fact that after the rookie and 53 Mantle, both of which are impossible to find in nice condition, the 1956 would be the card based on a few factors. Without having a 1954 or 1955 card it is his 3rd Topps card, it is his triple crown year, and 1956 is one of if not the most popular issues.
Working against it is the fact that this card is graded in much higher numbers than his other issues in similar years. IIRC there are 330 PSA 8's from 1956, but if you check years like 1957, 1958, and 1960 the pop shows numbers like 256, 187, and 285 respectively. Also, there are 28 PSA 8.5's and 37 PSA 9's from 1956 - that is a lot of high grade examples from one year. While demand is high so is supply which is a good thing if you are trying to find a nice 1956 Mantle.
Before piling too many of them up you should learn the difference between the near worthless ones cut from a sheet produced in 1954, and the completely worthless ones cut from the reprinted edition.
If you have a nicely centered PSA 8 Mantle with no print issues and strong corners let me know and I will buy all you have in the $5-6k range with Paypal FNF. Please fire away - would love to buy some as would others.
Thanks Mo
$6100 here!
Oh for the days we could grab this card for $5-6k. We sure had no idea what we were talking about last year
KC, I am a big fan of that 1960 Mick (0909). It's very hard to find one without PD in the red, or that line of dots that infringes upon the main photo pane. Focus is also a huge problem for that main image.
One of my favorite things to look at in the hobby is all of Mick's basic cards in one eyeful; they look great together. You've assembled a beautiful segment of the run right there! Props.
Originally posted by: KendallCat Was searching Mantle card threads and found this one, and curious as to how everyone is doing on their Mantle cards/runs
Think I have hit the wall on mine after a couple years of charging hard after it for centered, crisp examples. Harboring thin hopes of encountering true "card" upgrades of a few of my early Bowmans, but that would be all I'd do. Feels good to have the run done. The registry digital binder is a great way to stay connected with your cards and look at them ten times a day
Watching you put together your Mantle run is one of the most impressive things I have seen on a sports card/memorabilia message board. I noticed you have been quiet the past few months. With the Mantle run behind you, what are you focusing on now?
There's a small handful of cards that I'd like to add to the collection, yet some are quite scarce and so I hope one will surface a year.
I did get very lucky and acquired one of them recently, namely the Shoeless Joe Rookie Card. Love that baseball card as much as any Mantle, for many reasons.
My goal outside Mantle is to pick one card to represent each of the dominant players, so that the collection can tell the story of both the game and cards themselves— the various designs, manufacturers, and means of distribution, from the early days up to the 80's. So for Rogers Hornsby, I went with his 1921 E121, for Jimmy Foxx it was the '33 Goudey, for Rose the '64 trophy cup, etc. It's educational for my son and the little league teams I coach, and we use the cards to "draft" the players we pretend to be when we practice in the park. Lots of fun.
Originally posted by: DM23HOF Deeply appreciate that, Coop. Thank you!
There's a small handful of cards that I'd like to add to the collection, yet some are quite scarce and so I hope one will surface a year.
I did get very lucky and acquired one of them recently, namely the Shoeless Joe Rookie Card. Love that baseball card as much as any Mantle, for many reasons.
My goal outside Mantle is to pick one card to represent each of the dominant players, so that the collection can tell the story of both the game and cards themselves— the various designs, manufacturers, and means of distribution, from the early days up to the 80's. So for Rogers Hornsby, I went with his 1921 E121, for Jimmy Foxx it was the '33 Goudey, for Rose the '64 trophy cup, etc. It's educational for my son and the little league teams I coach, and we use the cards to "draft" the players we pretend to be when we practice in the park. Lots of fun.
That Shoeless Joe is a beaut! I like the SGC holder too. Those plastic sleeves in the PSA holders just dont seem right to me. Nice pickup!!
Originally posted by: Cooptown That Shoeless Joe is a beaut! I like the SGC holder too. Those plastic sleeves in the PSA holders just dont seem right to me. Nice pickup!!
We talking the t210 or the e90?
And let's see it!
Believe it is the E90 from BST a couple weeks back.
KC Very nice 52 Mantle. With the L/R centering so eye appealing the T/B centering being off is really not that much of a distraction. Would gladly have a card of this condition over one with sharper corners with 80/20 centering. Great choice.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
Thank you for the comments guys - very much appreciated. The Mantle rookie I was very fortunate to find, and like you said it was the eye appeal, l/r centering, and strong color that made me pull the trigger. I have not seen a copy out there, outside of Matt's PSA 4.5, that would have the eye appeal without spending $60-70k+. It is extremely difficult to find this card with strong centering in any grade - many 6's and 7's are 75/25 or 80/20.
Before piling too many of them up you should learn the difference between the near worthless ones cut from a sheet produced in 1954, and the completely worthless ones cut from the reprinted edition.
Think I got that covered.
But thank you for proving my point.
The fact that the general conception that the 1954 Topps Mantle is worthless,
and can be snagged, still SI* intact, for under $150 is crazy.
For what it's worth, I was standing next to a guy at the National at the PSA booth and he just got his 1956 Topps Mantle sub back. Came back as PSA 8. Obviously he was ecstatic, said he was sending to PWCC most likely.
KC, is that photo recent? I could have sworn I read in a previous thread that you had to sell your PSA 8 along with your '56 8.5 to fund some other cards for the National and that you now had a 7.5.
Also, if you did - wondering if you you have any little regret about doing so?
DNice - the photo is a couple of weeks old so it is recent. If you look closely there is not a 1956 Mantle 8 or 8.5. That is actually a recent pickup that was a PSA 6 that got bumped in AC to a 6.5. I had an 8 and an 8.5, and had to sell one of them to cover the Mantle rookie. That was a hard decision at the time, and I could get the rookie and keep either one but ended up moving the 8.5. The reason at the time was my wife and I were sitting there looking at both and I did a blind, no grade viewing with her. They were both really close, and for a $10k difference it made sense to keep the PSA 8.
I did end up moving that one and a PSA 7 at the National for a couple of reasons. Bought a few nice Ruth and Gehrig cards along with a Koufax rookie, some Mantle's, some Jackie Robinsons, Banks rookie. I got very fortunate getting the PSA 8 about 1.5 years ago, and it tripled in price during that time.
Your question is a very good one, and I wish I could have kept both of them; however, with the pickup of the PSA 6 turned 6.5 I got a card that based on eye appeal looks very strong and costs about 20% of the PSA 8. Below is the photo of the 6 and new holder and bump. Card looks like an 8 but did not cost anywhere near an 8 - learned this from Matt(DM23HOF) so he gets the credit. I used to be sharp corners get only PSA 8 and above collector early on, but I have tried to learn over time to go for eye appeal, centering, color... If I can find a 6 that looks like an 8 and save a ton of $$ so I can buy more cards I will do it.
Here is the 6 and bump to a 6.5. I liked the centering on this one and corners are strong to boot as well. I will grab another 8/8.5 in the near future once I pick up other cards I need for my run, but this should serve as a decent placeholder until that time.
1956 PSA 6
Bumped to a 6.5
Give you a decent example. Two Ryan rookie cards with varying grades and price points. Try to figure which one has the higher grade and price difference.
1968 Ryan rookie - exhibit A
1968 Ryan rookie - exhibit B
This is one I bought before the National, and I was looking for an 8 for the run but figured this would look as nice as any 8 and saved $3000-3500 on the price.
Thanks fot that write up. I always find it interesting learning and understanding why people make the decisions they do. Maybe they will point something out that either I have yet to consider or that I havent considered those factors enough when leaning on making a purchase. I guess we all have our methods of approach when we consider buying a card. Good example on the Ryan but at the same time, it would help if both scans were identical in the sense of same scanner and colors (without any adjustments on enhancing any of the colors). Although both Ryans look great, with a clearer scan, I think it would be a lot easier for most to determine which one has the higher grade. 68's are even harder to spot out softer corners due to its front stock card design. Turn them over and the card will do all the talking meaning it wont even be a question as to spot which one is which. All I see are two centerered Nolan Ryan beauties - but I do understand your logic.
Originally posted by: Dnice Thanks fot that write up. I always find it interesting learning and understanding why people make the decisions they do. Maybe they will point something out that either I have yet to consider or that I havent considered those factors enough when leaning on making a purchase. I guess we all have our methods of approach when we consider buying a card. Good example on the Ryan but at the same time, it would help if both scans were identical in the sense of same scanner and colors (without any adjustments on enhancing any of the colors). Although both Ryans look great, with a clearer scan, I think it would be a lot easier for most to determine which one has the higher grade. 68's are even harder to spot out softer corners due to its front stock card design. Turn them over and the card will do all the talking meaning it wont even be a question as to spot which one is which. All I see are two centerered Nolan Ryan beauties - but I do understand your logic.
Thank you for the note. On the Ryan's I agree - unfortunately one is not mine so I cannot make it have the exact resolution as the other one. Have to go with what we have
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Was searching Mantle card threads and found this one, and curious as to how everyone is doing on their Mantle cards/runs
Think I have hit the wall on mine after a couple years of charging hard after it for centered, crisp examples. Harboring thin hopes of encountering true "card" upgrades of a few of my early Bowmans, but that would be all I'd do. Feels good to have the run done. The registry digital binder is a great way to stay connected with your cards and look at them ten times a day
Instagram: mattyc_collection
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
-George F. Will
Dberk - I know exactly were your coming from in refernce to having to let stuff go in order to generate funds for new stuff. Sometimes you have to do that in order not to put yourself in a hole. It happens. I had to sell off like 7 or 8 cards to be able to get my 56 PSA 8. I saw them continue to soar and I knew that once it becamame a 10K card and higher, the real probabilty of me owning one was very little to none. One card that I really hated myself for letting go was the 93 Jeter SP in a 9. That card I bought for around $1320 back in Oct 2013 and sold mine earlier this year and made only about a $300 profit off it (which was decent at that time) but when you consider how much I would have to pay to get one now, ughh, I hate looking at them in VCP because I know they just will continue to rise in price. But I'll get one very soon because that will be a 5k card before he gets in the HOF.
why would someone sell a 52 topps set and replace them with auto rookies? obviously the latter is not the better investment lol.
Great call.
As I do vividly remember that "The Buying Group" mounted a mammoth attack on the 1952 Topps Fred Hatfield card this past year, right?
"You got to know when to hold'em. Know when to fold'em..."
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Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
-George F. Will
Begsu1013 doesn't get rid of too many, especially with that kind of eye appeal.
I have definitely morphed over the last few years to where the overall grade doesn't mean nearly as much. I still marvel and respect high grade material, but to me, lower grade cards with eye appeal that exceeds the technical grade are the real treasures.
Muffins - Yeah, Bob has an incredible collection and an impeccable eye. I'm very grateful/lucky he let it go. I stare at it practically everyday.
Thank you Bob if you're out there lurking.
The irony is that PSA claims that eye appeal is a hugely important factor.
Great point. From my collecting/shopping experience, it's just sadly not the case. Too many ugly 9s and gorgeous cards held back by some trifling technical flaw out there bear this out. One of the latter is my avatar.
Instagram: mattyc_collection
The irony is that PSA claims that eye appeal is a hugely important factor.
I've never seen them claim that and would be interested to see where they have. From what I've seen them print, market acceptance is equally as high as eye appeal in assessing a grade. I've only seen that eye appeal can sway a borderline card one way or the other from it's technical merits:
while most cards fall clearly within the centering guidelines for a particular grade, some cards fall either just within or just outside the printed centering standards.The key point to remember is that the graders reserve the right, based on the strength or weakness of the eye appeal, to make a judgment call on the grade of a particular card.
and
What will the market accept for this particular issue?
and
The bottom line is that there are times when a PSA grader must make a call on a card that falls on the line between two grades and that final determination is made based on experience, eye appeal and market acceptability.
I, for one, am glad their grading scale is not primarily eye appeal based, pinholded PSA 1s are much more pocketbook friendly than PSA 7s and many look as nice or nicer.
Hi KendallCat - I am the owner of this 56' Mick and I see you had it posted up above. Did you own this card at one time?
ToneD - sweet 53!! That is definitely a Make, Model and Year I would like to have.Hi KendallCat - I am the owner of this 56' Mick and I see you had it posted up above. Did you own this card at one time?
ToneD - sweet 53!! That is definitely a Make, Model and Year I would like to have.Yes - I owned that 56 Mantle in an 8.5 last year, and had to sell it so I could fund the Mantle rookie I bought last November. Unfortunately as much as I wanted to keep it financially it made sense at the time to move it to pay for the rookie. Glad someone on here got the card, and it is a beautiful card. Hopefully at some point in the future I will get another 8.5 again.
The 56 Mantle PSA 8 in this thread I sold in AC this year. I had three of them, and moved two of them to pick up a couple of Gehrig's as well as a Ruth. I bought the PSA 8 from BBCE after months of checking out literally 15-20 PSA 8's, and I thought it was the best of the bunch. Once I finish my Mantle run I will try to go back and grab a couple more 56's - such a great looking card. Thank you for the note.
KC
Kendall - That really was a nice 8 that was sold last night. In general though, those 56 Mantles in PSA 8's and above are on fire. I remember someone buying a 9 for $12,000 back around 2011. Now they are $40,000+. PSA 8's were around 5-6K range around this time last year. When I bought mine back in mid March of this year, I took a screenshot of the VCP average and it was at $7607 (except I paid more around todays price for mine because of its centering). Today it's at $9939. Two years or less - the 8's will be at $15,000.
Dberk - I know exactly were your coming from in refernce to having to let stuff go in order to generate funds for new stuff. Sometimes you have to do that in order not to put yourself in a hole. It happens. I had to sell off like 7 or 8 cards to be able to get my 56 PSA 8. I saw them continue to soar and I knew that once it becamame a 10K card and higher, the real probabilty of me owning one was very little to none. One card that I really hated myself for letting go was the 93 Jeter SP in a 9. That card I bought for around $1320 back in Oct 2013 and sold mine earlier this year and made only about a $300 profit off it (which was decent at that time) but when you consider how much I would have to pay to get one now, ughh, I hate looking at them in VCP because I know they just will continue to rise in price. But I'll get one very soon because that will be a 5k card before he gets in the HOF.
I would like to think this card would get to that level but not sure if it will be a $15k card. I grabbed a bunch when they were in the $3200-3800 range thinking they would go up due to the fact that after the rookie and 53 Mantle, both of which are impossible to find in nice condition, the 1956 would be the card based on a few factors. Without having a 1954 or 1955 card it is his 3rd Topps card, it is his triple crown year, and 1956 is one of if not the most popular issues.
Working against it is the fact that this card is graded in much higher numbers than his other issues in similar years. IIRC there are 330 PSA 8's from 1956, but if you check years like 1957, 1958, and 1960 the pop shows numbers like 256, 187, and 285 respectively. Also, there are 28 PSA 8.5's and 37 PSA 9's from 1956 - that is a lot of high grade examples from one year. While demand is high so is supply which is a good thing if you are trying to find a nice 1956 Mantle.
Have been picking them up at decent prices for several years now,
And probably one of the best valued Mantle cards out there.
For now at least...
And completely gradable per PSA guidelines as it wasn't pack issued,
just haven't inquired as of yet.
Thanks Mo
$6100 here!
Oh for the days we could grab this card for $5-6k. We sure had no idea what we were talking about last year
Less money talk, more Mantles, please.
Here ya go. Hopefully I will pair it up with a '53 Stahl-Meyer someday.
THAT is what it's about right there. Hard Mick to find that clean!
Less money talk, more Mantles, please.
Here you go big man all in one spot.
A pair of 1960's in PSA 8
Mantle rookie
KC
One of my favorite things to look at in the hobby is all of Mick's basic cards in one eyeful; they look great together. You've assembled a beautiful segment of the run right there! Props.
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Was searching Mantle card threads and found this one, and curious as to how everyone is doing on their Mantle cards/runs
Think I have hit the wall on mine after a couple years of charging hard after it for centered, crisp examples. Harboring thin hopes of encountering true "card" upgrades of a few of my early Bowmans, but that would be all I'd do. Feels good to have the run done. The registry digital binder is a great way to stay connected with your cards and look at them ten times a day
Watching you put together your Mantle run is one of the most impressive things I have seen on a sports card/memorabilia message board. I noticed you have been quiet the past few months. With the Mantle run behind you, what are you focusing on now?
There's a small handful of cards that I'd like to add to the collection, yet some are quite scarce and so I hope one will surface a year.
I did get very lucky and acquired one of them recently, namely the Shoeless Joe Rookie Card. Love that baseball card as much as any Mantle, for many reasons.
My goal outside Mantle is to pick one card to represent each of the dominant players, so that the collection can tell the story of both the game and cards themselves— the various designs, manufacturers, and means of distribution, from the early days up to the 80's. So for Rogers Hornsby, I went with his 1921 E121, for Jimmy Foxx it was the '33 Goudey, for Rose the '64 trophy cup, etc. It's educational for my son and the little league teams I coach, and we use the cards to "draft" the players we pretend to be when we practice in the park. Lots of fun.
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Deeply appreciate that, Coop. Thank you!
There's a small handful of cards that I'd like to add to the collection, yet some are quite scarce and so I hope one will surface a year.
I did get very lucky and acquired one of them recently, namely the Shoeless Joe Rookie Card. Love that baseball card as much as any Mantle, for many reasons.
My goal outside Mantle is to pick one card to represent each of the dominant players, so that the collection can tell the story of both the game and cards themselves— the various designs, manufacturers, and means of distribution, from the early days up to the 80's. So for Rogers Hornsby, I went with his 1921 E121, for Jimmy Foxx it was the '33 Goudey, for Rose the '64 trophy cup, etc. It's educational for my son and the little league teams I coach, and we use the cards to "draft" the players we pretend to be when we practice in the park. Lots of fun.
That Shoeless Joe is a beaut! I like the SGC holder too. Those plastic sleeves in the PSA holders just dont seem right to me. Nice pickup!!
That Shoeless Joe is a beaut! I like the SGC holder too. Those plastic sleeves in the PSA holders just dont seem right to me. Nice pickup!!
We talking the t210 or the e90?
And let's see it!
That Shoeless Joe is a beaut! I like the SGC holder too. Those plastic sleeves in the PSA holders just dont seem right to me. Nice pickup!!
We talking the t210 or the e90?
And let's see it!
Believe it is the E90 from BST a couple weeks back.
ETA: BST Link
Nice catch!
I'll get a Shoeless card some day!
Less money talk, more Mantles, please.
Here you go big man all in one spot.
A pair of 1960's in PSA 8
Mantle rookie
KC Very nice 52 Mantle. With the L/R centering so eye appealing the T/B centering being off is really not that much of a distraction. Would gladly have a card of this condition over one with sharper corners with 80/20 centering. Great choice.
Less money talk, more Mantles, please.
Here you go big man all in one spot.
A pair of 1960's in PSA 8
Mantle rookie
KC
KC...Bold coloration on the 52 Mantle gives it great eye appeal.
And agree on Matt's 4.5. My single favorite card ever posted. Better than so many higher grades.
Before piling too many of them up you should learn the difference between the near worthless ones cut from a sheet produced in 1954, and the completely worthless ones cut from the reprinted edition.
Think I got that covered.
But thank you for proving my point.
The fact that the general conception that the 1954 Topps Mantle is worthless,
and can be snagged, still SI* intact, for under $150 is crazy.
* along w/ the rest of the cards.
* and it's only the 2nd issue of SI ever.
Also, if you did - wondering if you you have any little regret about doing so?
DNice - the photo is a couple of weeks old so it is recent. If you look closely there is not a 1956 Mantle 8 or 8.5. That is actually a recent pickup that was a PSA 6 that got bumped in AC to a 6.5. I had an 8 and an 8.5, and had to sell one of them to cover the Mantle rookie. That was a hard decision at the time, and I could get the rookie and keep either one but ended up moving the 8.5. The reason at the time was my wife and I were sitting there looking at both and I did a blind, no grade viewing with her. They were both really close, and for a $10k difference it made sense to keep the PSA 8.
I did end up moving that one and a PSA 7 at the National for a couple of reasons. Bought a few nice Ruth and Gehrig cards along with a Koufax rookie, some Mantle's, some Jackie Robinsons, Banks rookie. I got very fortunate getting the PSA 8 about 1.5 years ago, and it tripled in price during that time.
Your question is a very good one, and I wish I could have kept both of them; however, with the pickup of the PSA 6 turned 6.5 I got a card that based on eye appeal looks very strong and costs about 20% of the PSA 8. Below is the photo of the 6 and new holder and bump. Card looks like an 8 but did not cost anywhere near an 8 - learned this from Matt(DM23HOF) so he gets the credit. I used to be sharp corners get only PSA 8 and above collector early on, but I have tried to learn over time to go for eye appeal, centering, color... If I can find a 6 that looks like an 8 and save a ton of $$ so I can buy more cards I will do it.
Here is the 6 and bump to a 6.5. I liked the centering on this one and corners are strong to boot as well. I will grab another 8/8.5 in the near future once I pick up other cards I need for my run, but this should serve as a decent placeholder until that time.
1956 PSA 6
Bumped to a 6.5
Give you a decent example. Two Ryan rookie cards with varying grades and price points. Try to figure which one has the higher grade and price difference.
1968 Ryan rookie - exhibit A
1968 Ryan rookie - exhibit B
This is one I bought before the National, and I was looking for an 8 for the run but figured this would look as nice as any 8 and saved $3000-3500 on the price.
1959 Mantle PSA 7
Thanks fot that write up. I always find it interesting learning and understanding why people make the decisions they do. Maybe they will point something out that either I have yet to consider or that I havent considered those factors enough when leaning on making a purchase. I guess we all have our methods of approach when we consider buying a card. Good example on the Ryan but at the same time, it would help if both scans were identical in the sense of same scanner and colors (without any adjustments on enhancing any of the colors). Although both Ryans look great, with a clearer scan, I think it would be a lot easier for most to determine which one has the higher grade. 68's are even harder to spot out softer corners due to its front stock card design. Turn them over and the card will do all the talking meaning it wont even be a question as to spot which one is which. All I see are two centerered Nolan Ryan beauties - but I do understand your logic.
Thank you for the note. On the Ryan's I agree - unfortunately one is not mine so I cannot make it have the exact resolution as the other one. Have to go with what we have
The top copy of the Ryan RCs has better centering...and therefore to me presents better than the bottom one.
I would agree with your assessment Monte. Anyone want to take a guess on the grades of these two cards? I will post results tonight.
The top copy of the Ryan RCs has better centering...and therefore to me presents better than the bottom one.
I would agree with your assessment Monte. Anyone want to take a guess on the grades of these two cards? I will post results tonight.
A - 6.5
B - 8 (without a better scan this is little more than a complete guess)
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