Originally posted by: JeffMTampa Yes, I do agree that the '15 reverse looks like it has "Shelf" doubling. As I understand it the cause is a loose die that "chatters" upon striking, causing the shifted image. Since the shift happens in a singular direction it's understandable why it's only visible on one side (similar to a shadow). What I don't understand is why it's not visible on "One Dime" in the center? It was subject to the same shift in the die. Any thoughts?
Geometry. Sort of like gears with longer radiuses go farther for every turn. The shift is minimal near the center of the coin and spreads the farther out you go. Another possibility is lettering was applied to hub/master dies separate from wreath.
I bring the brutal honest truth, you bring the tissues. Circa 2015.
Funny how things work out. I placed odd ball max bids on two Heritage Auction Barber Quarters. My odd ball, i.e.: Max Bids, were the actual bids I won with. It seems as though I was the high bidder by $3.00 on each coin. Go figure. Lol
It seems as though I have a few very attractive 1892 Quarters ... Ty 1 & Ty 2's ...it has to be because more people saved the new issue in 1892. Seems they're as common as any date. Regardless - they make a great display.
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Great looking pickups. Mike! I really wish there were both Type I & II Quarters recognized in the Registry set; I think it's a significant design change. To me it's much more dramatic than a 1C coin with or without the designers initials......
Here's one of my Barber dimes I didn't sell back in 2014 because I think it's undergraded. 1912-D, PCGS MS63 (blue holder). Please tell me where I can buy more MS63 Barber dimes like this one.
Pics for this AM, without any haze or other stuff this is not my normal preferred look, but this qtr has plenty of appeal and will suffice just fine until one I like better comes along. It's been 3 years and I haven't found it's replacement yet, PC63 (OGH):
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Vern - finally some of your own stuff and all great looking coins as I figured, like the 1894 quarter real pretty but I know it's a bit too shinny for your taste.
Mike - Sounds like a great deal on the two quarters, the 1892 is just a beautiful, great color.
We have a show coming up July 29th, met Dave Earp at the last one I attended a few years back, hope to see him again at this one. The Missouri Numismatic Society"s yearly is usually a good place to find a nice AU at a very good price for my collection. Hope to have something to post from the show, Vern, not too far from you 180 tables or so.
Dave - It's been a few years since I've made it to St Louis. I think I'll ask Keith if he wants to take a road trip, and I'll let you know if we're coming. And thanks for your comments on my coins.
Pics for this AM, beauty from Milo's collection, PC58:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I like seeing a few Liberty Nickels in this thread every once in a while. Here is my 20th Century Set Liberty Nickel. She has a couple of hits on the cheek, but I really dig the tone;
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Jeff - a couple of real nice dimes, I like the turquoise spotted coin, kind of unique I don't think I've seen that color stand alone like that on a coin before.
oih82w8 - Beautiful nickel, colors just seem to blend in together so flawlessly.
Vern...NICE Quarter !! Yum !! As mentioned, it's nicer than the assigned grade.
OIH82W8 - lovely nickel - it's refreshing to see the occasional toned V Nickel.
Jeff.... Another nice pick up. I also have a 1901 ( ANACS 58 ) Dime getting cracked out and being submitted to our hosts -
I believe I have posted it before ( I'll look up the sellers' images and post them later ) . This 1901 Dime is more uniformly Golden toned, not rim toned as yours. Good luck on the submission. Glad you're finding nice raw Dimes !! You are having better luck than I am !!
In answer to Dave's question.... Not eBay on the 1916 Dime .... Heritage Weekly Internet Only Auction.
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Originally posted by: All Swede Jeff - Man, you are marching right along with the dimes. How many more do you need for your set?
My Barber Dime set is just starting out- I need almost all of them! Currently there are 8 or so in at PCGS for grading, and I have another half dozen to send in.
I've cooled off a bit on my Barber Half Everyman set and took up Dimes. All but 3 of my Barber Halves are 55/ 58, almost all of them keepers. I'll eventually upgrade the three below 55 (the '97 S is XF 45, the '09 O is AU 53, and the '13 S is AU 53). I'll upgrade some of the 55's if the right coin comes along at the right price, but I'm quite satisfied with a nice looking 55 and see no need to spend "uber dollars" for a 58.
I may eventually work on completing a Half Proof set (not uber pricey) and will likely upgrade my MS Half set slowly, but I've reached a point where every move I make with the Halves involves BIG dollars. I guess that's why the dimes are fun right now; a nice coin for little $$.
Jeff - I think you'll find that some of those early mint marked dimes are very tough to find in AU, but IMO, that's what makes the collection fun.
Vern-
You're absolutely correct on the mm Barber Dimes. I'm looking for those in AU (graded or raw), but I'm finding Philadelphia examples. Maybe the 20X mintage has something to do with that.
What's interesting is there are far more nice original skin dimes out there than Halves and Quarters. For whatever reason a lot more dimes escaped the cleaning treatment than it's cousins.
Dave...thanks for the compliments. I hope one of my Quarters makes it into your collection.
Milo....that's some 1905-S Quarter... the best I have found in the last five years is AU 53.
Received the ANA ANAHEIM Stacks / Bowers catalogs yesterday. Getting hard copies is wonderful. I hate their web site - I can never find anything. Who is their cataloguer ? OMG
Regardless, I have found a few coins I can't live without...One Quarter and a half dozen Dimes...all AU 58's....all but one is Internet Only "Back of The Book " material.
Happy hunting....
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Dave - I won't be making it to St. Louis next week. Hope you find more than one nice addition to your collection. And if you decide to jump into the barber quarter pool, I can probably help.
Mike - I certainly agree on the 05-S, tough coin. Good luck with your Stack's selections.
Pics for this AM, new (to me anyway), from Paesan's Stash, PC58:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Finally have a moment to get back on the Thread. ...A lot of beautiful pieces over the last several days, especially the 96-O Quarter and the 05-S Quarter (a favorite date of mine)... Here is one that I'm "caretaker" of:
Mike - "shaken from the Paesan Tree" ... I love it!! Thanks for the compliment regarding my 05-S in 55. I think Vern nailed it as being an unappreciated date.
Craig - Very nice 05-S in 58.
Paesan - The 96-O in 58 is terrific!! Thanks for posting it Vern.
No Headlights and Jeff - It's even been hot up here in Wisconsin (I've heard of the heat from others back in my home state of Iowa).
Milo
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Yes, I do agree that the '15 reverse looks like it has "Shelf" doubling. As I understand it the cause is a loose die that "chatters" upon striking, causing the shifted image. Since the shift happens in a singular direction it's understandable why it's only visible on one side (similar to a shadow). What I don't understand is why it's not visible on "One Dime" in the center? It was subject to the same shift in the die. Any thoughts?
Geometry. Sort of like gears with longer radiuses go farther for every turn. The shift is minimal near the center of the coin and spreads the farther out you go. Another possibility is lettering was applied to hub/master dies separate from wreath.
Barber Quarters. My odd ball, i.e.: Max Bids, were the actual bids I won with. It
seems as though I was the high bidder by $3.00 on each coin. Go figure. Lol
It seems as though I have a few very attractive 1892 Quarters ... Ty 1 & Ty 2's
...it has to be because more people saved the new issue in 1892. Seems they're
as common as any date. Regardless - they make a great display.
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your interperation of the reason for Die Doubling. Very interesting.
Jeff...thanks, and, I agree, I also wish they would include Ty 1 & Ty 2's
...but in the Barber Quarter with varieties.
Edit to add:
Received the latest CAC submission results:
1911 V Nickel - OGH - PCGS MS 63 : Exceeded !!
1903-O Dime - PCGS MS 62 : Passed
1908- D Quarter - PCGS AU 58 : Passed
1909-S Quarter - PCGS AU 55 : Passed
Sadly ( but no surprise ) the 1900 Phila Quarter in PCGS AU 58 : Did Not Pass.
Images are in previous posts. I'm pleased with these results.
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TheTruthHurts - Welcome to the PCGS forum and the Barber Mega-thread.
Mike - Congratulations on your strategic bids with HA. And on a 07-S qtr besides. Looks like you did very well with CAC. Congratulations again.
Pics for this AM, per your request Dave, three raw spares from the back of my safe. Anyone care to offer grading opinions?
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Vern....love V Nickels ...
My take:
AU 53 - Top
AU 50 - Middle
XF 45 - Bottom
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It's great to see some of your solid examples of raw coins. I'm right there with Mike, but I will dare to be different:
Top - 53
Mid - 45
Bot - 40
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1 40 shot 45
1 35
3 30 shot 35
Ron...Keep them coming...that's a Gold CAC MS 63 !!
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Ron - Tons of luster on your 12-D. It has to be more than a 63.
Pics for this AM, from Milo's collection, PC53:
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Pics for this AM, newp (to me anyway) into Paesan's Stash, PC64:
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Mike - Sounds like a great deal on the two quarters, the 1892 is just a beautiful, great color.
We have a show coming up July 29th, met Dave Earp at the last one I attended a few years back, hope to see him again at this one. The Missouri Numismatic Society"s yearly is usually a good place to find a nice AU at a very good price for my collection. Hope to have something to post from the show, Vern, not too far from you 180 tables or so.
Dave
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Pics for this AM, beauty from Milo's collection, PC58:
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Hard to say which Quarter recently posted is my favorite, nah, it's Milo's 1902.
WOWZA !!
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Mike - Thanks for the complement on the 02. I took a hard look at your set the other day. I said WOWZA many times!!
Paesan - Nice 09-D, the reverse is super.
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Vern - got an email from Dave Earp, he going to have a table at the St. Louis show July 28-30.
Dave
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Pics for this AM, a variety from Paesan's Stash, DDO & RPD, FS-301, PC40:
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I'm hoping it comes back a 58, but there's enough chatter that it will likely 55. Interesting color.
Good luck, Jeff... I think its a 55 though..
Here's a newp for the Everyman sets...
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Pics for this AM, my last acquisition from Teletrade, an 1895-S/S, ANACS-61:
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BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore...
ohi82w8- great color on the Liberty Nickel; thanps for posting it.
Another raw Barber Dime arrived over the weekend, a 1901:
This looks like a solid 58 to me, although there's a slight chance it could come back in a MS holder.
oih82w8 - Beautiful nickel, colors just seem to blend in together so flawlessly.
Mike - nice dime pickup, eBay coin?
Dave
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OIH82W8 - lovely nickel - it's refreshing to see the occasional toned V Nickel.
Jeff.... Another nice pick up. I also have a 1901 ( ANACS 58 ) Dime getting cracked out
and being submitted to our hosts -
I believe I have posted it before ( I'll look up the sellers' images and post them later ) . This 1901 Dime is more
uniformly Golden toned, not rim toned as yours. Good luck on the submission. Glad you're finding nice raw Dimes !!
You are having better luck than I am !!
In answer to Dave's question.... Not eBay on the 1916 Dime .... Heritage Weekly Internet Only Auction.
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Jeff - Thanks, it left the old ANACS holder soon after I recd it and our hosts said 63. Nice '01 dime.
Mike - You, I, and our hosts all liked it better than ANACS.
Pics for this AM, from Milo's Collection, PC35:
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Thanks, Vern. I hope it stays a 58 - last thing I need is another lower grade MS of that date.
Spotted this for my Everyman set - another 58 Dime:
Upon close examination - its another RPM - not the same variety as my MS 1893-S/s/s
Once again, for the Everyman Set !
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Pics for this AM, newp (to me anyway) in Paesan's Stash, PC55:
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Thanks, Vern. I hope it stays a 58 - last thing I need is another lower grade MS of that date.
Spotted this for my Everyman set - another 58 Dime:
Upon close examination - its another RPM - not the same variety as my MS 1893-S/s/s
Once again, for the Everyman Set !
Mike, I was itching to bid on that one last night at Heritage, but...one of these days I'll acquire my 19th Century Everyman Barber Dime.
BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore...
Shameless plug for my duplicates being sold at Heritage Auction
and the following weekend [ 8/28 & 8/30 ]
See The BST for details...I'm adding images as I find them.
Big problem: too many images - and a lousy filing system.
MS 63+ CAC
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Jeff - Man, you are marching right along with the dimes. How many more do you need for your set?
Mike - Shameless, maybe, but what a Barber half, for certain.
oih82w8 - Very nice 04 Liberty nickel with NICE toning.
Paesan - As usual, your 01 in 55 is a beauty.
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BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore...
Jeff - Man, you are marching right along with the dimes. How many more do you need for your set?
My Barber Dime set is just starting out- I need almost all of them! Currently there are 8 or so in at PCGS for grading, and I have another half dozen to send in.
I've cooled off a bit on my Barber Half Everyman set and took up Dimes. All but 3 of my Barber Halves are 55/ 58, almost all of them keepers. I'll eventually upgrade the three below 55 (the '97 S is XF 45, the '09 O is AU 53, and the '13 S is AU 53). I'll upgrade some of the 55's if the right coin comes along at the right price, but I'm quite satisfied with a nice looking 55 and see no need to spend "uber dollars" for a 58.
I may eventually work on completing a Half Proof set (not uber pricey) and will likely upgrade my MS Half set slowly, but I've reached a point where every move I make with the Halves involves BIG dollars. I guess that's why the dimes are fun right now; a nice coin for little $$.
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What?!?! No Barber quarters in the mail today!?!? ... "heavy sigh" ...
Jeff - I think you'll find that some of those early mint marked dimes are very tough to find in AU, but IMO, that's what makes the collection fun.
Pics for this AM, one of the few barber dimes in my collection, acquired many years ago from Glenn Holsonbake, PC55:
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Jeff - I think you'll find that some of those early mint marked dimes are very tough to find in AU, but IMO, that's what makes the collection fun.
Vern-
You're absolutely correct on the mm Barber Dimes. I'm looking for those in AU (graded or raw), but I'm finding Philadelphia examples. Maybe the 20X mintage has something to do with that.
What's interesting is there are far more nice original skin dimes out there than Halves and Quarters. For whatever reason a lot more dimes escaped the cleaning treatment than it's cousins.
Jeff, Good luck with the Barber dime hunt. Lots of raw material out there compared to the higher denomination coins.
Stay cool everyone. HOT in Iowa.
Stay cool everyone. HOT in Iowa.
It's nice and cool here in Tampa! But then I'm indoors......
Jeff - I think we're experiencing Tampa weather here in northern Ill and Iowa.
Pics for this AM, unappreciated date from Milo's collection, PC55:
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Vern - I guess I'll have to try to talk you out of one of your cast offs to add to the quarter set I plan to start.
Hope to pick up a nice registry half next week at the St. Louis show and maybe a few raw vf-xf.
Dave
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Dave...thanks for the compliments. I hope one of my Quarters makes it into your collection.
Milo....that's some 1905-S Quarter... the best I have found in the last five years is AU 53.
Received the ANA ANAHEIM Stacks / Bowers catalogs yesterday. Getting hard copies is
wonderful. I hate their web site - I can never find anything. Who is their cataloguer ? OMG
Regardless, I have found a few coins I can't live without...One Quarter and a half dozen
Dimes...all AU 58's....all but one is Internet Only "Back of The Book " material.
Happy hunting....
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Mike - I certainly agree on the 05-S, tough coin. Good luck with your Stack's selections.
Pics for this AM, new (to me anyway), from Paesan's Stash, PC58:
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Love the 96-O Quarter, very nice toning.
It's always refreshing to see what was shaken
from the Paesan Tree.
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Here is one that I'm "caretaker" of:
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Pics for this AM, a beauty that belongs to a friend. One of my favorite half dates, PC53:
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Craig - Very nice 05-S in 58.
Paesan - The 96-O in 58 is terrific!! Thanks for posting it Vern.
No Headlights and Jeff - It's even been hot up here in Wisconsin (I've heard of the heat from others back in my home state of Iowa).
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Craig....sweet 05-S Quarter - love it. When and if you sell,
The GinjaMax Group will be happy to pay you handsomely !
Vern.... Tell your friend, he/ she has good tastes. That's a very
wholesome 1898-O Half.
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Pics for this AM, a coin of mine that hasn't been posted here in a long time, PC64:
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