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An 1875-P Twenty Cent Piece

BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
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At long last I have completed my Twenty Cent Piece set, and no comments about the 1876-CC will be accepted. That one would make my bucket list only if I hit the $100 million lottery.


This coin has been harder to find than I ever thought it would be. I could have purchased at least five Proof coins to this piece in Mint State. I don't exactly understand why that would be since "the first of its kind" is often hoarded in some quantity.


This is the piece that came from the most recent Gardner sale. It was the piece that Gardner bought as a Proof in the 1990s, but when certified as a Mint State coin. I paid what thought was a high price for this one, but it's actually worth it. There is big price gap between MS-64 and 65, and this piece is high end for the 64 grade in my opinion. It also had not been dipped, although the color is a little uneven.


I have been looking for this coin for about two years. I had a couple of near misses on it before I ended up with this one. Of course "near miss" is a lose term because 25 other collectors placed an order for one I found early in my search.

Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice example.



    I find the color to be pleasing and not too dark.



    Strike looks very good, too.



    I love the 20 cent piece both as a type coin and from the Seated design aspect.



    Congrats!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet Double Dime!



    You are not a huffin' on the 76-CC...(((whistle)))...probably could not be touched for less than six figures.
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    etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    I like the look of this piece and a big congrats on completing the set.





    Mike
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How's your 1876-O???



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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oih82w8
    Sweet Double Dime!

    You are not a huffin' on the 76-CC...(((whistle)))...probably could not be touched for less than six figures.



    I saw one I liked at a Baltimore show although the purists would not have liked it because it was a white coin, which would have said "dipped" to them. The price was $575,000 which was a bit over my budget for that day. image
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Walkerfan
    Nice example.

    I find the color to be pleasing and not too dark.

    Strike looks very good, too.

    I love the 20 cent piece both as a type coin and from the Seated design aspect.

    Congrats!



    Here is a link to the Heritage auction for this coin. The close-up photos on the site were a bit misleading. At some angles it looks like the "full slab" photos, but my photo is the most accurate in my opinion.


    Heritage Link 1875-P Twenty Cent

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BillJones
    Originally posted by: Walkerfan
    Nice example.

    I find the color to be pleasing and not too dark.

    Strike looks very good, too.

    I love the 20 cent piece both as a type coin and from the Seated design aspect.

    Congrats!



    Here is a link to the Heritage auction for this coin. The close-up photos on the site were a bit misleading. At some angles it looks like the "full slab" photos, but my photo is the most accurate in my opinion.


    Heritage Link 1875-P Twenty Cent



    The big Heritage photos show a bit more color. But I like your photos, as well---I still see some blue and gold. I really like this piece's originality.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Walkerfan
    Originally posted by: BillJones
    Originally posted by: Walkerfan
    Nice example.

    I find the color to be pleasing and not too dark.

    Strike looks very good, too.

    I love the 20 cent piece both as a type coin and from the Seated design aspect.

    Congrats!



    Here is a link to the Heritage auction for this coin. The close-up photos on the site were a bit misleading. At some angles it looks like the "full slab" photos, but my photo is the most accurate in my opinion.


    Heritage Link 1875-P Twenty Cent



    The big Heritage photos show a bit more color. But I like your photos, as well---I still see some blue and gold. I really like this piece's originality.



    If you look at the coin in-hand, it is impossible to get the kind the color that shows up in the close-up photo. The photo is a bit too juicy.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about posting the entire set
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BillJones
    Originally posted by: Walkerfan
    Originally posted by: BillJones
    Originally posted by: Walkerfan
    Nice example.

    I find the color to be pleasing and not too dark.

    Strike looks very good, too.

    I love the 20 cent piece both as a type coin and from the Seated design aspect.

    Congrats!



    Here is a link to the Heritage auction for this coin. The close-up photos on the site were a bit misleading. At some angles it looks like the "full slab" photos, but my photo is the most accurate in my opinion.


    Heritage Link 1875-P Twenty Cent


    The big Heritage photos show a bit more color. But I like your photos, as well---I still see some blue and gold. I really like this piece's originality.



    If you look at the coin in-hand, it is impossible to get the kind the color that shows up in the close-up photo. The photo is a bit too juicy.


    I like it nonetheless. imageimage

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    Nice piece Mr. Jones. Worth the wait. I enjoy all of your posts and envy your Type collection.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice coin image
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Boosibri
    How about posting the entire set


    Here is the easiest way to do that.



    Bill Jones' Double Dimes


    You will hate the 1875-S, but that is probably the way the coin looked to day it was struck. I've owned it for 20 years, and it has never changed in the holder, not even a little bit.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really like the 1875 PF and the 1875 CC is amazing. I like the 1875 S, too. Those 3 are my favorite, in addition to your latest.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    I say hard to beat.
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations. These are tougher coins to find then I would have thought. I still have a small handful of these in circulated condition and finding nice "common" original coins with any kind of eye-appeal is tough.



    From XF to Au-58 even tougher. I still don't have a 1876. I've only seen a couple for sale on the dealer sites for quite some time.
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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    Thanks weird. Before I flipped through your set I noticed that your set ranking was #1. I went through all the images and went back to the set listing and your rank was #3. Surely that was a glitch and someone didn't bump you down that much that quickly.



    I love all of those coins. What a set!

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: guitarwes
    Thanks weird. Before I flipped through your set I noticed that your set ranking was #1. I went through all the images and went back to the set listing and your rank was #3. Surely that was a glitch and someone didn't bump you down that much that quickly.

    I love all of those coins. What a set!


    Thank you


    There are three Twenty Cent Piece registry sets over there. I'm #3 for the made for circulation four piece set, #2 for the Proof coin set, and right now #1 for the complete Mint State and Proof set.



    The fellow with #1 Proof set blows everybody out of the water. All for of his coins grade PR-67 or 68 with a couple of stars and cameos thrown in. Even if you could find those coins, it would cost a fortune to buy them. His point total is over 36,000 while my #2 set has just over 14,000 points. image It's like the East Division of the American Football Conference. There are the New England Patriots and then there is everybody else. image

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    It's like the East Division of the American Football Conference. There are the New England Patriots and there there is everybody else. image





    Now that's funny.



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    USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not sure if its just me but the strike on that one seems to be better than what is normally seem on these in the same grade. Nice double dime.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, it is very sharp. It was sold as a Proof in the mid 1990s. It has very bright luster under the toning, not mirrors.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow Bill, two completed sets this week.

    First the Gold Dollars, now this.



    Your latest 20-cent sure looks hammered.



    You're on a roll and a sense of humor to boot.



    Nice that NGC allows PCGS coins in the Registry.

    It obviously is not reciprocated.



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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fantastic! I like your photos better than those I looked at previously.
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    scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I might have been fooled into calling it a proof as well. Is it the luster that convinced you (and PCGS)?



    Or are there other characteristics to consider?
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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fabulous coin. I love it.
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    goldengolden Posts: 10,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet coin!
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice coin Bill, and congratulations on completing the set... Cheers, RickO
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    Nice coin for the grade.
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