My ability to post images here evaporated years ago when they changed it from a few step process to the 10-15 step process it became : ( However, MFH is getting an example and he knows how to post pics. I also saw an example posted elsewhere on the message boards, and if you go to the Moonlight mint website there are pictures from Daniel Carr. Going to the website where you can order from, may be the fastest way to see a picture.
Vern- Great looking '16 Quarter. That's the look I like in a 58.
Dr. Pete- Posting photos is actually quite simple. Feel free to send me a PM if you want a walkthrough. I'll post a photo of my '16 Half when it arrives in a few days.
Speaking of AU 58's I had 3 of them come through the PCGS grading room today. I'll post photos when I get them back; hopefully Saturday.
I'll have to wait to post my images until my friend takes the snaps. It took me what seems to have been a lifetime - to be able to post images. I used to send a friend, Dave Batterberry, my images in a smaller format - where I would store them at PCGS. Too many steps were involved - advice suggesting PhotoBucket was the best advice.
It's so easy now, even this old man can do it.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
I use Dropbox. I've never had an issue and all my photos are on all of my computers, tablets, and phones (with or w/o internet) automatically. Downsizing the images for publication is a pain in the rear end step, but I've gotten used to it.
The lines in the field of the '83 Nickel are absolutely die polish lines, but the question is whether a grader will take time to figure it out or just call it cleaned. There are no lines in the devices- just in the field.
Great, I finally find a choice AU 1897-O Half and its a fake !! You really have to be familiar with US coins to realize these are actually fakes. They are getting better, the dog from the other day still has be chuckling.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Although there are many tells on those fakes, I've noticed that they can never get the stars or date right. I would think that would be the easy part. Or maybe it's just the easiest part for me to notice.
Although I had a 1907 AU 58 half in my set I was never a fan of it. I originally purchased the coin raw many years ago for a decent price and it stuck with me. A few months ago I was fortunate enough to find another nice raw 1907 half that had a much nicer look (for me). I sent it to PCGS; it came back as an AU 58:
I'm sure it's a little too white for most, but it works for me.
Jeff, I like it. I personally prefer my 58's with Morgan Dollar luster(lusterous blast white) or soft pastels with good luster...don't like em with too much toning!
Here's a couple of shots I did today of the 1893-O Quarter with what seems to be a repunched mintmark. Showed it to a few, including Glenn Holsonbake, at the Barber Collectors meeting/dinner at the Long Beach show on Thursday evening and all agreed that it was probably an RPM. Certainly NOT strike doubling. Pretty neat!
We all like nice coins - and I would love to see exactly what the look of your set actually is, Darrell. So, please open up your best set. Don't concern yourself that there is another set a smiggin higher- no one cares. We just want to enjoy your set.
My paltry set will be imaged next month and I will attach these new images to my set; I will also have a mini slide show on this Forum as well.
We all have preferences - I enjoy a variety of looks - it gives the collection character. I have been following Jeff's collection closely over the last couple of years and he has taken a number of chances and has won some and, he has lost some. In each Newp he has shown us, I have usually agreed with the grade on the holder.
Quite a few of us have been terribly wrong on guessing his grades. I now know why, some are looking for an MS 66 with a luster break dragging it down to AU 58. Those coins just don't exist and should they, only someone in the main stream of this hobby ever get to see these.
A dealer friend had another friend of mine assisting him this weekend at the Long Beach, and every so often, my friend would send me a text with some NEWPS - one in particular was a PCGS 58 Half Dollar that had a pleasing OBV - lustrous just not flawlessly pristine. The REV was an explosion of magenta, reds and blues and underlying golden luster ! Just an amazing coin.... it's too bad that it was so spectacular that it would have out shined the coins surrounding it in my Eagle album.
These past few months, another collector friend, SROTAG, has exposed me to higher graded Barbers ( all denominations ) and it's been a great experience. He has been upgrading his collection and he and I have been selecting his old coins for Reconsideration - Regrade - and CAC approval. Recently, he and I disected the collection offered by our good friend "Finally Here" .... We selected close to a dozen coins to upgrade his Half Dollar collection. As there were Want Lists in play by previous customers, we were indeed fortunate to have a half dozen coins set aside for SROTAG. Each coin is a marvel. Each coin actually is a bit different from the next. Some are an explosion of toning - some light toned - some rim toned - but each a superb Gem.
Coins from Finally Here - Mike Printz - The Cincinnati Collection.
1899-S - PCGS 66 CAC
1903-O - PCGS 65+ CAC
1897-S - PCGS 65 CAC
1903-S - PCGS 66 CAC
1895-O - PCGS 65 CAC
1908-P - PCGS 66 CAC
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
This is a hobby and should be all about fun. I believe the "competition" in the Registry should be accepted as friendly. This is not Wall Street; we shouldn't be out to profit at other's expense but to show our collection and have fun. There is no financial prize or significant award for being on top; the chase is the prize and the reward comes from within. My set will never be "closed" to the Public; not because I want to "show off" (I'll never compete with the Big Dogs), but because I believe the spirit of the Registry is to allow the community to view and appreciate the beautiful and diverse coins that exist in a series.
I have yet to sense that any seller would deny me just because my collection might advance. I know, I'm just a "puppy", but come on- shouldn't we all be trying to help each other rather than trying to advance our own turf?
My take on the registry is I don't care what place I'm in or what anyone else has or doesn't have, whether they want to show or not, whether they want to compete or not, I really don't care. I like my coins and enjoy the hobby with my friends. Nothing else means a darn thing. The day I start thinking about all that stuff is the day I sell my collection. In fact, when it comes to registry, I help others a lot more than I help myself.
Good points... Don't take the Registry stuff all that seriously. Also, collect what you like and / or afford. Case in point, I'd like to have been serious competition in the Gardner collection ...lol... I just couldn't afford much of anything. All I can do is applaud the efforts to get a set of that high a caliber ...
I not only enjoy my coins - but I enjoy the sets that have grown in rank from 52 to the single digits. Images actually are the nicest way to view an on line collection.
Otherwise, why bother having them listed for public scrutiny. These thoughts have been with me since I blocked my sets for various reasons ( that I have discussed before ).
Someone I used to know said : If it ain't fun, don't bother. This is the same person who stiffed me on that Mercury Dime Varieties Fiasco.
As long as I am having fun - and no one puts a damper on my fun - I'll be okay. It's great having the commaraderie (sic) of fellow Barber collectors.
Didn't mean for my posts to come off as being too heavy.
Happy Hunting !!
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Do not worry about our resident Pharmacist. He's doing great.
Jeff... That's a very attractive 04-S. The 9th one, huh ? When I bought my 58 from Harry, it was the first one.
Heck, when I bought my 1st AU 55 from DLRC, it was the highest graded AU available - with a POP ONE. I remember my friend Jim Dimmick commenting about it at the time !
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
<< <i>Shame on you for nastying up that Purdy half with what appears to be a pubic hair! >>
Darrell- it's not pubic; I don't like the coin THAT much. I did shoot the pictures is haste last night. The Postman arrived late and I had to go watch the Stanley Cup Finals with a friend!! Does anyone know who's winning the series??
I'll take a little more time over the weekend to give the coin some proper photos.
I didn't mind spending a few bucks on this 58. Unlike the '97 S this coin sells for more as a 61 than a 58. It seems a safer investment to me.
<< <i>Shame on you for nastying up that Purdy half with what appears to be a pubic hair! >>
Darrell- it's not pubic; I don't like the coin THAT much. I did shoot the pictures is haste last night. The Postman arrived late and I had to go watch the Stanley Cup Finals with a friend!! Does anyone know who's winning the series??
I'll take a little more time over the weekend to give the coin some proper photos.
I didn't mind spending a few bucks on this 58. Unlike the '97 S this coin sells for more as a 61 than a 58. It seems a safer investment to me. >>
Jeff I had to make it entertaining and I agree with your assessment of the 04-S vrs. the 97-S. I am wondering how long the prices can hold on the 04-S's as a pop of 9 is getting up there. Makes me question the amount I paid for my 58.
Edit to add.....to be honest I haven't seen an 04-S yet that I'm really in love with. My 55 was a tie with the 58 I bought. My 58 is PL but has lottsa little spots which only become apparent under magnification. I will be upset if my 55 makes it into a 58 holder one day. I tried it 2 times for an upgrade. The only thing that might have been holding it back was slightly muted luster which was equal to several other 58's I have seen.
If you look at the NGC pop reports for the 1909 O 25C there are 0- AU 55, 4- AU 58, 0- MS 60, and 1- MS 61. There's not much material to cross.
With the '04 S 50C there 13- AU 58 and 4- MS 61. A lot more potential material to cross is available.It certainly would be interesting to see what the coins look like and what vintage holders they're in. I've found the coins more recently graded by NGC have a high success of crossing but the older holders rarely cross. NGC used to grade much more liberallly than today.
Yes, the Bolts are up 2 to 1 in the Stanley Cup. Tonight will likely be a good one for Chicago, bu I still say the Bolts will win the series in 7 on home ice in Tampa. The next step- winter olympics in Tampa.
Jeff - Good point about the NGC graded material. And what an exciting game 4 last night. Now we're at 2 games apiece, and your prediction of it going 7 seems likely.
Pics for this AM, another truly rare coin, from Mowgli's collection, PC53:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
<< <i>I really enjoyed owning that 09-O. Thanks, Mike, for that hook-up. >>
Ah, yes, the coin I chased for 5 years before it landed at Labelman's home. I had known it's whereabouts for quite a while. It was in Irv Reichel's set for a good 4 years - when all of a sudden he decided to sell off his set and I was unaware that he was doing this, until I saw my friend Craig mention that it was now in his set. Fast forward a couple of years, Criag decides he wants an MS date set - all the AU's gotta go !! { I couldn't get on a plane fast enough.} I bought the 1909-O in PCGS 55 Gold CAC outright, with the agree- ment that I split the profits with him should I sell it.
Fast forward to the next FUN sale when Walt and Lenny showed up at Glenn Holsonbake's table ( where I was helping out ). A few months prior, Liz had another 1909-O in AU something, and she wanted $4200 for it. That set the tone for the one I owned. Lenny and I agreed on a price - he was happy - i was not nearly as happy as the coin I had chased was a photoshopped non entity.
Getting that 09-O into an AU 58 holder left me speachless. Having seen it for weeks and memorizing every mark and toning pattern, I felt it was a solid 55 - under the new "plus" tier, it could have gone 55+. Having CAC give it a Gold CAC as a 55 lead everyone to believe the coin was a 58+ (as a Gold CAC is like a 2 point upgrade ). Seeing the same coin in Liz's showcase for twice what I sold it for - guess she knew the true value - as it sold yet again at the mid seven thousand dollar level.
To quote my ANA instructors - " Toning forgives a little and hides a lot".
Now, the prices for a collector grade of this date are out of sight. I know of a very choice VF recently on the market that is priced (fairly) at a couple of Grand. Absolute dreck (thanks Laura) is selling for $800-$1,200. I saw a terrible 30 for sale for $1595.
Yes, I am still missing this date from my latest set. Semi key dates are now being added in less that AU condition. VG10 to VF30 have slid in - so, when I do find a handsome circulated 09-O in this grade range that I can afford, I'll jump at it. ( key: "that I can afford." )
EDIT:
Vern, that Mowgli 1913-S in 53 sure is nice !! Thanks for sharing it. I mentioned my latest set having VG10-VF30's in the set; the set was started knowing full well I wouldn't be adding any of the three keys, in any grade.
REEDIT:
I agree Lenny - the 09-O of ours did have "eye appeal" that's for certain.
Interesting observation on the reconsiderations. Thanks for sharing. I hope all take this golden information to heart. Toning rules !
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Comments
<< <i>Daryl, I'm still traumatized. I need therapy.
Paesan >>
Lenny-
I'll send you a few wheat pennies. Will that make you feel better?
Mike - Great looking album toned dimes.
Dr Pete - I look forward to seeing pics as well.
Pics for this AM, since we're talking '16, PC58:
And a bonus, perhaps one the lost coins from Paesan's youth:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Dr. Pete- Posting photos is actually quite simple. Feel free to send me a PM if you want a walkthrough. I'll post a photo of my '16 Half when it arrives in a few days.
Speaking of AU 58's I had 3 of them come through the PCGS grading room today. I'll post photos when I get them back; hopefully Saturday.
I'll have to wait to post my images until my friend takes the snaps.
It took me what seems to have been a lifetime - to be able to post
images. I used to send a friend, Dave Batterberry, my images in a
smaller format - where I would store them at PCGS. Too many steps
were involved - advice suggesting PhotoBucket was the best advice.
It's so easy now, even this old man can do it.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
This coin looks better in hand than my photos. It looks like a proof coin. The question is should I submit this raw or in the slab??
Jeff - Are all those parallel lines on your '83 V Nick, die polish lines? I don't think I'd crack it out.
Pics for this PM, newp courtesy of JT, PC58:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
The lines in the field of the '83 Nickel are absolutely die polish lines, but the question is whether a grader will take time to figure it out or just call it cleaned. There are no lines in the devices- just in the field.
Vern: No, my friend who provided me with years of reduced size images
was DAVE99B.... He is almost done with his Barber Quarter collection.
Jeff: The 1883 N/C Nickel has obvious die polish lines. Believe me, the
graders won't that that wrong !!
The 1899 Quarter is neat...thanks for sharing !!'
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
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<< <i>Jeff: The 1883 N/C Nickel has obvious die polish lines. Believe me, the
graders won't that that wrong' >>
Mike= I have a AU '15 S Half with similar markings. I posted it previously in a general thread. PCGS called it "Cleaned" ; I still don't think so.
Who will be at Summer FUN to look at this coin and give me an opinion??
Did I miss something??
Pics for this AM, toughie that used to be mine, came from Walt, then went back to Walt, now ???, PC50:
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Fake! 92-S Barber Half
Edit: Forgot a word.
<< <i>
<< <i>Jeff: The 1883 N/C Nickel has obvious die polish lines. Believe me, the
graders won't that that wrong' >>
Mike= I have a AU '15 S Half with similar markings. I posted it previously in a general thread. PCGS called it "Cleaned" ; I still don't think so.
Who will be at Summer FUN to look at this coin and give me an opinion?? >>
Jeff.... I get into ORLANDO on Tuesday late afternoon.
You have my cell # ..... Call me WEDNESDAY or THURSDAY.
I leave late morning FRIDAY. I'll be happy to look at your 15-S.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
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<< <i>Another round of counterfeits...better than the last,this time from Russi...see his other items for the others.
Fake! 92-S Barber Half >>
Great, I finally find a choice AU 1897-O Half and its a fake !!
You really have to be familiar with US coins to realize these
are actually fakes. They are getting better, the dog from the
other day still has be chuckling.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
I forgot to mention that I love that '96 O 50C. Did you put a bug in the holder so I can track it down?
Jeff - That little marker is courtesy of our hosts. And until you mentioned it, I never noticed it.
Pics for this AM, a couple of nice original VF's that just came my way, PC30 and 35:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I'm sure it's a little too white for most, but it works for me.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
So, please open up your best set. Don't concern yourself that there is another set a smiggin higher-
no one cares. We just want to enjoy your set.
My paltry set will be imaged next month and I will attach these new images to my set; I will also have
a mini slide show on this Forum as well.
We all have preferences - I enjoy a variety of looks - it gives the collection character. I have been following
Jeff's collection closely over the last couple of years and he has taken a number of chances and has won some
and, he has lost some. In each Newp he has shown us, I have usually agreed with the grade on the holder.
Quite a few of us have been terribly wrong on guessing his grades. I now know why, some are looking for an MS 66
with a luster break dragging it down to AU 58. Those coins just don't exist and should they, only someone in the
main stream of this hobby ever get to see these.
A dealer friend had another friend of mine assisting him this weekend at the Long Beach, and every so often, my friend
would send me a text with some NEWPS - one in particular was a PCGS 58 Half Dollar that had a pleasing OBV -
lustrous just not flawlessly pristine. The REV was an explosion of magenta, reds and blues and underlying golden luster !
Just an amazing coin.... it's too bad that it was so spectacular that it would have out shined the coins surrounding it in my
Eagle album.
These past few months, another collector friend, SROTAG, has exposed me to higher graded Barbers ( all denominations )
and it's been a great experience. He has been upgrading his collection and he and I have been selecting his old coins for
Reconsideration - Regrade - and CAC approval. Recently, he and I disected the collection offered by our good friend "Finally
Here" .... We selected close to a dozen coins to upgrade his Half Dollar collection. As there were Want Lists in play by
previous customers, we were indeed fortunate to have a half dozen coins set aside for SROTAG. Each coin is a marvel. Each
coin actually is a bit different from the next. Some are an explosion of toning - some light toned - some rim toned - but each
a superb Gem.
Coins from Finally Here - Mike Printz - The Cincinnati Collection.
1899-S - PCGS 66 CAC
1903-O - PCGS 65+ CAC
1897-S - PCGS 65 CAC
1903-S - PCGS 66 CAC
1895-O - PCGS 65 CAC
1908-P - PCGS 66 CAC
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New Barber Purchases
This is a hobby and should be all about fun. I believe the "competition" in the Registry should be accepted as friendly. This is not Wall Street; we shouldn't be out to profit at other's expense but to show our collection and have fun. There is no financial prize or significant award for being on top; the chase is the prize and the reward comes from within. My set will never be "closed" to the Public; not because I want to "show off" (I'll never compete with the Big Dogs), but because I believe the spirit of the Registry is to allow the community to view and appreciate the beautiful and diverse coins that exist in a series.
I have yet to sense that any seller would deny me just because my collection might advance. I know, I'm just a "puppy", but come on- shouldn't we all be trying to help each other rather than trying to advance our own turf?
OK, I'll shut up and go curl up by the fireplace.
My take on the registry is I don't care what place I'm in or what anyone else has or doesn't have, whether they want to show or not, whether they want to compete or not, I really don't care. I like my coins and enjoy the hobby with my friends. Nothing else means a darn thing. The day I start thinking about all that stuff is the day I sell my collection. In fact, when it comes to registry, I help others a lot more than I help myself.
Mike, those are some spectacular halves!
Paesan
Good points... Don't take the Registry stuff all that seriously.
Also, collect what you like and / or afford. Case in point, I'd
like to have been serious competition in the Gardner collection
...lol... I just couldn't afford much of anything. All I can do is
applaud the efforts to get a set of that high a caliber ...
I not only enjoy my coins - but I enjoy the sets that have
grown in rank from 52 to the single digits. Images actually
are the nicest way to view an on line collection.
Otherwise, why bother having them listed for public scrutiny.
These thoughts have been with me since I blocked my sets
for various reasons ( that I have discussed before ).
Someone I used to know said : If it ain't fun, don't bother.
This is the same person who stiffed me on that Mercury Dime
Varieties Fiasco.
As long as I am having fun - and no one puts a damper on my fun -
I'll be okay. It's great having the commaraderie (sic) of fellow Barber
collectors.
Didn't mean for my posts to come off as being too heavy.
Happy Hunting !!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
A package from PCGS arrived today with the latest upgrade for my set:
The 9th PCGS AU 58. I suspect this is the only one in the new holder, however.
If you want to see a TERRIBLE coin image look up this coin on the PCGS website- it looks very dark. The coin in hand looks like the images I posted.
Do not worry about our resident Pharmacist. He's doing great.
Jeff... That's a very attractive 04-S. The 9th one, huh ?
When I bought my 58 from Harry, it was the first one.
Heck, when I bought my 1st AU 55 from DLRC, it
was the highest graded AU available - with a POP ONE.
I remember my friend Jim Dimmick commenting about
it at the time !
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Jeff! That be a homerun! Shame on you for nastying up that Purdy half with what appears to be a pubic hair!
Mike - Those are some stellar halves.
Paesan - I share your perspective on our hobby, 100%.
Jeff - Congrats on the great acquisition, and subsequent cross. That's a good looking toughie.
Darrell - We all look forward to your pics.
Pics for this AM, newp into Paesan's Stash, a secend example of the 1892 with filled letters, PC58:
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<< <i>Shame on you for nastying up that Purdy half with what appears to be a pubic hair! >>
Darrell- it's not pubic; I don't like the coin THAT much. I did shoot the pictures is haste last night. The Postman arrived late and I had to go watch the Stanley Cup Finals with a friend!! Does anyone know who's winning the series??
I'll take a little more time over the weekend to give the coin some proper photos.
I didn't mind spending a few bucks on this 58. Unlike the '97 S this coin sells for more as a 61 than a 58. It seems a safer investment to me.
<< <i>
<< <i>Shame on you for nastying up that Purdy half with what appears to be a pubic hair! >>
Darrell- it's not pubic; I don't like the coin THAT much. I did shoot the pictures is haste last night. The Postman arrived late and I had to go watch the Stanley Cup Finals with a friend!! Does anyone know who's winning the series??
I'll take a little more time over the weekend to give the coin some proper photos.
I didn't mind spending a few bucks on this 58. Unlike the '97 S this coin sells for more as a 61 than a 58. It seems a safer investment to me. >>
Jeff
Edit to add.....to be honest I haven't seen an 04-S yet that I'm really in love with. My 55 was a tie with the 58 I bought. My 58 is PL but has lottsa little spots which only become apparent under magnification. I will be upset if my 55 makes it into a 58 holder one day. I tried it 2 times for an upgrade. The only thing that might have been holding it back was slightly muted luster which was equal to several other 58's I have seen.
Jeff & Darrell - I find it interesting that AU58's seem to come out of the woodwork for the tough halves, but not the tough qtrs (09-O, for example).
Pics for tonight, a rare coin that used to belong to Labelman, then Paesan, PC58:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
If you look at the NGC pop reports for the 1909 O 25C there are 0- AU 55, 4- AU 58, 0- MS 60, and 1- MS 61. There's not much material to cross.
With the '04 S 50C there 13- AU 58 and 4- MS 61. A lot more potential material to cross is available.It certainly would be interesting to see what the coins look like and what vintage holders they're in. I've found the coins more recently graded by NGC have a high success of crossing but the older holders rarely cross. NGC used to grade much more liberallly than today.
Yes, the Bolts are up 2 to 1 in the Stanley Cup. Tonight will likely be a good one for Chicago, bu I still say the Bolts will win the series in 7 on home ice in Tampa. The next step- winter olympics in Tampa.
And what an exciting game 4 last night. Now we're at 2 games apiece, and your prediction of it going 7 seems likely.
Pics for this AM, another truly rare coin, from Mowgli's collection, PC53:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
<< <i>I really enjoyed owning that 09-O. Thanks, Mike, for that hook-up. >>
Ah, yes, the coin I chased for 5 years before it landed at Labelman's home.
I had known it's whereabouts for quite a while. It was in Irv Reichel's set
for a good 4 years - when all of a sudden he decided to sell off his set and
I was unaware that he was doing this, until I saw my friend Craig mention
that it was now in his set. Fast forward a couple of years, Criag decides he
wants an MS date set - all the AU's gotta go !! { I couldn't get on a plane fast
enough.} I bought the 1909-O in PCGS 55 Gold CAC outright, with the agree-
ment that I split the profits with him should I sell it.
Fast forward to the next FUN sale when Walt and Lenny showed up at Glenn
Holsonbake's table ( where I was helping out ). A few months prior, Liz had
another 1909-O in AU something, and she wanted $4200 for it. That set the
tone for the one I owned. Lenny and I agreed on a price - he was happy - i
was not nearly as happy as the coin I had chased was a photoshopped non
entity.
Getting that 09-O into an AU 58 holder left me speachless. Having seen it
for weeks and memorizing every mark and toning pattern, I felt it was a
solid 55 - under the new "plus" tier, it could have gone 55+. Having CAC
give it a Gold CAC as a 55 lead everyone to believe the coin was a 58+
(as a Gold CAC is like a 2 point upgrade ). Seeing the same coin in Liz's
showcase for twice what I sold it for - guess she knew the true value - as
it sold yet again at the mid seven thousand dollar level.
To quote my ANA instructors - " Toning forgives a little and hides a lot".
Now, the prices for a collector grade of this date are out of sight. I know of
a very choice VF recently on the market that is priced (fairly) at a couple of Grand.
Absolute dreck (thanks Laura) is selling for $800-$1,200. I saw a terrible 30
for sale for $1595.
Yes, I am still missing this date from my latest set. Semi key dates are now
being added in less that AU condition. VG10 to VF30 have slid in - so, when
I do find a handsome circulated 09-O in this grade range that I can afford, I'll
jump at it. ( key: "that I can afford." )
EDIT:
Vern, that Mowgli 1913-S in 53 sure is nice !! Thanks for sharing it.
I mentioned my latest set having VG10-VF30's in the set; the set was
started knowing full well I wouldn't be adding any of the three keys, in
any grade.
REEDIT:
I agree Lenny - the 09-O of ours did have "eye appeal" that's for certain.
Interesting observation on the reconsiderations. Thanks for sharing. I hope
all take this golden information to heart. Toning rules !
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases