The official 2013 Topps Heritage thread

ThoseBackPages · March 5, 2013 11:26AM

The WWE Blaster contains 7 packs with of cards
The Baseball Blaster contains 8 packs worth of cards.

kmnorton · March 5, 2013 11:41AM

Birdie it is.

Birdie

parkerj · March 5, 2013 11:51AM

How do you know a card is a venezuelan variation?

ThoseBackPages · March 5, 2013 11:54AM

<< How do you know a card is a venezuelan variation? >>

Black Back i believe

fur72 · March 5, 2013 11:55AM

Thursday afternoon I will have my boxes. Cant wait!

Walt · March 5, 2013 12:00PM

Im confused. Are the mini inserts a parallel? Does each of the 500 cards have one? I take it the Venez are also a parallel and every card has one?

TNP777 · March 5, 2013 12:21PM

<< Im confused. Are the mini inserts a parallel? Does each of the 500 cards have one? I take it the Venez are also a parallel and every card has one? >>

looks like the minis are mostly just the high numbers.

edit: not sure on the Venezuelans - they weren't part of the announced checklist.

2013 Topps Heritage mini checklist
13 Adam LaRoche Washington Nationals®
35 Michael Bourn Atlanta Braves™
40 Carlos Beltran St. Louis Cardinals®
43 Brandon Morrow Toronto Blue Jays®
50 Curtis Granderson New York Yankees®
58 Austin Jackson Detroit Tigers®
80 Jay Bruce Cincinnati Reds®
89 Jose Bautista Toronto Blue Jays®90 Joe Mauer Minnesota Twins®
100 Robinson Cano New York Yankees®
108 Jarrod Parker Oakland Athletics™
110 Mark Trumbo Angels®
125 Yu Darvish Texas Rangers®
147 Kyle Lohse St. Louis Cardinals®
160 David Freese St. Louis Cardinals®
183 Fernando Rodney Tampa Bay Rays™
190 Derek Jeter New York Yankees®
200 Clayton Kershaw Los Angeles Dodgers®
210 Jacoby Ellsbury Boston Red Sox®
217 Alex Gordon Kansas City Royals®
236 Jim Johnson Baltimore Orioles®
240 Allen Craig St. Louis Cardinals®
246 Josh Hamilton Angels®
247 Josh Reddick Oakland Athletics™
250 Prince Fielder Detroit Tigers®
259 Miguel Montero Arizona Diamondbacks®
280 Ryan Vogelsong San Francisco Giants®
290 Josh Willingham Minnesota Twins®
330 Johnny Cueto Cincinnati Reds®
340 Paul Konerko Chicago White Sox®
350 Matt Cain San Francisco Giants®
360 Mark Teixeira New York Yankees®
400 Kris Medlen Atlanta Braves™
425 Joey Votto Cincinnati Reds®
426 Miguel Cabrera Detroit Tigers®
427 Andre Ethier Los Angeles Dodgers®
428 Ryan Howard Philadelphia Phillies®
429 Aramis Ramirez Milwaukee Brewers™
430 Mike Trout Angels®
431 Hunter Pence San Francisco Giants®
432 Ryan Zimmerman Washington Nationals®
433 Adam Jones Baltimore Orioles®
434 Dustin Pedroia Boston Red Sox®
435 Carlos Santana Cleveland Indians®
436 Michael Brantley Cleveland Indians®
437 Billy Butler Kansas City Royals®
438 Andrew McCutchen Pittsburgh Pirates®
439 Evan Longoria Tampa Bay Rays™
440 Bryce Harper Washington Nationals®
441 Jordan Zimmermann Washington Nationals®
442 Hanley Ramirez Los Angeles Dodgers®
443 Hiroki Kuroda New York Yankees®
444 Adrian Beltre Texas Rangers®
446 Jose Reyes Toronto Blue Jays®
447 Felix Hernandez Seattle Mariners™
448 Cole Hamels Philadelphia Phillies®
449 Jered Weaver Angels®
450 Matt Kemp Los Angeles Dodgers®
451 Jake Peavy Chicago White Sox®
452 Troy Tulowitzki Colorado Rockies™453 Justin Upton Arizona Diamondbacks®
454 Gio Gonzalez Washington Nationals®
455 Chris Sale Chicago White Sox®
456 CC Sabathia New York Yankees®
457 Mat Latos Cincinnati Reds®
458 David Price Tampa Bay Rays™
459 Yoenis Cespedes Oakland Athletics™
460 Ryan Braun Milwaukee Brewers™
461 Marco Scutaro San Francisco Giants®
462 Roy Halladay Philadelphia Phillies®
463 Giancarlo Stanton Miami Marlins™
464 R.A. Dickey Toronto Blue Jays®
465 David Wright New York Mets®
466 Carlos Gonzalez Colorado Rockies™
467 Chase Headley San Diego Padres™
468 Mariano Rivera New York Yankees®
469 Max Scherzer Detroit Tigers®
470 Albert Pujols Angels®
471 Matt Holliday St. Louis Cardinals®
472 Adrian Gonzalez Los Angeles Dodgers®
473 Matt Harrison Texas Rangers®
474 Wade Miley Arizona Diamondbacks®
475 Edwin Encarnacion Toronto Blue Jays®
476 Yovani Gallardo Milwaukee Brewers™
477 Yadier Molina St. Louis Cardinals®
478 Madison Bumgarner San Francisco Giants®
479 Ian Kinsler Texas Rangers®
480 Stephen Strasburg Washington Nationals®
481 Martin Prado Atlanta Braves™
482 Nelson Cruz Texas Rangers®
483 James Shields Kansas City Royals®
484 Adam Dunn Chicago White Sox®
485 Starlin Castro Chicago Cubs®
486 David Ortiz Boston Red Sox®
488 Wilin Rosario Colorado Rockies™
490 Buster Posey San Francisco Giants®
492 Eric Hosmer Kansas City Royals®
493 Aroldis Chapman Cincinnati Reds®
499 Jesus Montero Seattle Mariners™
500 Justin Verlander Detroit Tigers®

parkerj · March 5, 2013 12:24PM

By the way, does anyone need the super short prints from 2009? I have all 6 available for trade, or $35 each.

TNP777 · March 5, 2013 12:37PM

<< its not like Archives, but its not like WWE either (which is what their supposed to feel like) . its not quite as horrible as 2012 Hi #, but its pretty bad >>

Eric, I responded over on FCB with the same thing...

I think one thing to consider is that by 1964 the card stock had also changed. It's possible that Topps is trying to mirror the card stock progression from their early years into the 60s. I took my 1956 Dodgers team set of 24 cards and pulled the first 24 cards of my 1964 Dodgers set. As you can see, there is a noticeable difference between the two.

Now granted, I have some doubts about whether the monkeys at Topps stopped to consider this - they probably are just trying to increase profit margin by using a thinner stock. I'm sure they think the lemmings will buy anything they put out when it's got Heritage slapped on it.

ChasHawk · March 5, 2013 12:42PM

<< everything that I pull is available. I am looking for other heritage autographs and rare cards. I also collect ginter autographs. >>

Did you open your buyback packs?

Walt · March 5, 2013 12:47PM

buy back packs were huge names, I might get them graded:

Zoilo Versalles
Wayne Causey

3 panel packs nto opened.

ChasHawk · March 5, 2013 12:59PM

<< buy back packs were huge names, I might get them graded:

Zoilo Versalles
Wayne Causey

3 panel packs nto opened. >>

Thank you for the quick response.

On the lookout for Nicholsons as usual.

ThoseBackPages · March 5, 2013 1:05PM

<< 

<< its not like Archives, but its not like WWE either (which is what their supposed to feel like) . its not quite as horrible as 2012 Hi #, but its pretty bad >>

Eric, I responded over on FCB with the same thing...

I think one thing to consider is that by 1964 the card stock had also changed. It's possible that Topps is trying to mirror the card stock progression from their early years into the 60s. I took my 1956 Dodgers team set of 24 cards and pulled the first 24 cards of my 1964 Dodgers set. As you can see, there is a noticeable difference between the two.

Now granted, I have some doubts about whether the monkeys at Topps stopped to consider this - they probably are just trying to increase profit margin by using a thinner stock. I'm sure they think the lemmings will buy anything they put out when it's got Heritage slapped on it. >>

interesting point. havnt seen it on FCB, but will reply here as its more appropriate.

2012 MiLB was printed on the "bad" card stock, and issued (printed) after 2012 Topps Heritage MLB Baseball.
Then they put out the 2012 Heritage Hi # Set, and that too was printed on very poor paper stock.

i called them out on it after it was released. they assured us that the issue would be resolved for 2013 Topps Heritage.

Obviously they didnt fix it.

Such a damn shame that i cannot enjoy opening the ONE f'n baseball card product that still interests me.

matthewbschultz83 · March 5, 2013 1:28PM

<< By the way, does anyone need the super short prints from 2009? I have all 6 available for trade, or $35 each. >>

Do you have some from 2011 (or green tints from 2011) or any from 2012?

matthewbschultz83 · March 5, 2013 6:05PM

5 Blasters
5 Racks
10 Retail Packs

Yielded 18 SPs, normal ratio of inserts and the following hits:

The Cespedes (for the rest of us) is a Refractor. All of them but the Kinsler are for trade/sell. My case is scheduled to arrive sometime Wednesday afternoon. I hope to have all my hits scanned and what I don't trade/sell here thrown on Ebay.

BenG76 · March 5, 2013 6:10PM

I got 3 blasters from Walmart yesterday. Here is a video. Got some stuff for trade at the end.

3 Blaster boxes

ssdawg77 · March 6, 2013 2:35AM

Just finished busting my first of two hobby cases. I had one box in which every pack had a purple refractor. I would like to if any else runs into this as they are busting cases.

footlong · March 6, 2013 2:38AM

6 blasters from walmart, got ink...................charlie dees

ssdawg77 · March 6, 2013 2:43AM

It appears I have answered my own question. The second box of case 2 yielded 24 purple refractors.

parkerj · March 6, 2013 3:09AM

Got my hobby case plus 4 blasters at wallyworld here in north syracuse. Busted one blaster, 1 hobby box. Got blue ink out of hobby - mike roarke. Nothing else of note.

Mick65 · March 6, 2013 3:43AM

<< It appears I have answered my own question. The second box of case 2 yielded 24 purple refractors. >>

Weren't they green last year? Do they sell, sell well, or have any collectors?

Wasn't sure what the pricing on those were? Are they the hobby version of the red and blue borders? The new watered down "hot box" concept.

parkerj · March 6, 2013 4:19AM

Green was last year. They didn't sell particularly well last year....maybe a buck or two a piece they can be had for. Thats typical for heritage refractors and chromes, unless it is a superstar. We don't really know the print run, like we do on normal refs / chromes, as they are unnumbered.

These purples (and 2011 greens) are chrome refractor cards....the reds/blues are normal stock, normal cards, with just different coloring.

Walt · March 6, 2013 4:19AM

anyone doing the purple set? I hit another purple hot box, but got most of the same cards, so I have doubles.

Mick65 · March 6, 2013 5:22AM

Thanks for the info.

I wasn't sure if Topps was considering these hobby "exclusives" in the similar sense of the red "Target Exclusives".....

Wish they included all the SSPs in one "Hot box" per case... (like the ones that were popping up a few years back)

would water down the price tag on them..., but that would be an exciting box to open...

I guess they are trying it with the Purple refractors......

I just see them as 24 chromes, another sub set that I won't chase to complete,

fur72 · March 6, 2013 5:41AM

<< Thanks for the info.

I just see them as 24 chromes, another sub set that I won't chase to complete, >>

Walt · March 6, 2013 5:46AM

soooooo I guess there will be plenty of purple chromes out there to trade for?

Mick65 · March 6, 2013 5:55AM

What is the trade value of the Green / Purple chrome?

An SP? Two SPs?

It's got to be worth more than a News Flashback, though, right?

Walt · March 6, 2013 6:02AM

24 per case, so they are half as good as regular chromes in trade value.

Basilone · March 6, 2013 6:16AM

My head is spinning from all of these additional chromes/subsets/variations above and beyond the classic Heritage program from years past.

When will it get totally out of control for the completest..or has it already happened?

Walt · March 6, 2013 6:17AM

topps needed to mix thing up, they had lost many heritage collectors over the past 3 years, I don't know if this helped or not.

TNP777 · March 6, 2013 6:20AM

John, for me it happened a couple of years ago with the addition of the high number sets, high number chrome, and the increase of SSPs.

I love to see what others have ripped, but as far as I'm concerned I'm only in for a Dodgers set.

Walt · March 6, 2013 6:22AM

yeah I gotta say watering down the chrome sets in heritage really turned off a lot of collectors.

Basilone · March 6, 2013 6:28AM

I was into Heritage as much as anyone over the years but as a completest it has become too much...especially via busting packs.

The days of collecting everything except the cut sigs are OVER.

GB5HOF · March 6, 2013 6:30AM

I agree with a lot of what's posted above. Last year was my last. The color swaps and image swaps were just too difficult to pull, and too expensive to buy individually. I did all the inserts, and the 100 card chrome set. And bought the High Number set. Good way to go out I guess.

ThoseBackPages · March 6, 2013 6:46AM

This year was the first time i ever opened Topps Heritage and was bored with it.

Josephcb09 · March 6, 2013 7:51AM

My Heirtage collection has changed quite a bit over the years.

I started out like most of you, collecting master sets. But as the super short prints began to come out in 2009 I realized that the set was going to be very expensive and what I was ending up with was not going to justify the price.

So now I still bust a Hobby case + every year but I usually sell/trade the singles to get the Heritage cards that I really want (mainly high end Giants stuff)

One thing has remained the same, I like the product and I think it is fun to collect. I wish people complained less and just collected what they liked. It would make life a lot more enjoyable.

fur72 · March 6, 2013 8:48AM

Speaking of SSP's do we know what they are?

Knopfler · March 6, 2013 9:07AM

My best card from the first case so far. Had no idea what to price it at. 1:14,420 packs.

2013 Topps Heritage Beatles John Lennon Buyback

TNP777 · March 6, 2013 9:08AM

<< Speaking of SSP's do we know what they are? >>

This is the list Topps released a couple of weeks ago.

COLOR VARIATIONS
80 Jay Bruce Cincinnati Reds®
90 Joe Mauer Minnesota Twins®
100 Robinson Cano New York Yankees®
125 Yu Darvish Texas Rangers®
183 Fernando Rodney Tampa Bay Rays™
200 Clayton Kershaw Los Angeles Dodgers®
246 Josh Hamilton Angels®
250 Prince Fielder Detroit Tigers®
425 Joey Votto Cincinnati Reds®
428 Ryan Howard Philadelphia Phillies®
430 Mike Trout Angels®
440 Bryce Harper Washington Nationals®
447 Felix Hernandez Seattle Mariners™
448 Cole Hamels Philadelphia Phillies®
450 Matt Kemp Los Angeles Dodgers®
455 Chris Sale Chicago White Sox®
458 David Price Tampa Bay Rays™
459 Yoenis Cespedes Oakland Athletics™
463 Giancarlo Stanton Miami Marlins™
465 David Wright New York Mets®
467 Chase Headley San Diego Padres™
474 Wade Miley Arizona Diamondbacks®
480 Stephen Strasburg Washington Nationals®
485 Starlin Castro Chicago Cubs®
490 Buster Posey San Francisco Giants®

ERROR SHORT PRINTS
4 Matt Harrison Texas Rangers®
Jered Weaver Angels®
David Price Tampa Bay Rays™
125 Yu Darvish Texas Rangers®
325 Rafael Betancourt Colorado Rockies™
335 Jonny Venters Atlanta Braves™355 Chris Tillman Baltimore Orioles®
440 Bryce Harper Washington Nationals®

WASHINGTON SENATORS VARIATIONS
46 Ian Desmond Washington Nationals®
56 Ross Detwiler Washington Nationals®
432 Ryan Zimmerman Washington Nationals®
440 Bryce Harper Washington Nationals®

parkerj · March 6, 2013 9:11AM

well said Joe! I second that motion!

matthewbschultz83 · March 6, 2013 9:26AM

There appears to be some "In Action" variations.

fur72 · March 6, 2013 9:26AM

<< My best card from the first case so far. Had no idea what to price it at. 1:14,420 packs.

2013 Topps Heritage Beatles John Lennon Buyback >>

Nice pull. You can actually pick up the original Beatles cards for some what reasonable price. Couple bucks a card. Unless there is something special about this one. I have a hand full left I sold about 40 of them in a lot around 2005.

Knopfler · March 6, 2013 9:53AM

<< 

<< My best card from the first case so far. Had no idea what to price it at. 1:14,420 packs.

2013 Topps Heritage Beatles John Lennon Buyback >>

Nice pull. You can actually pick up the original Beatles cards for some what reasonable price. Couple bucks a card. Unless there is something special about this one. I have a hand full left I sold about 40 of them in a lot around 2005. >>

Yeah, I'm sure I'll have to lower the price. I just saw there were none yet on ebay so I priced it high to start.

Knopfler · March 6, 2013 10:00AM

As a side note, I've opened four boxes so far and hit ink four times already. Scans to come later.

parkerj · March 6, 2013 10:06AM

ummm....guys looks to me like its autographed...by a dead guy....should pull serious coin.

Walt · March 6, 2013 10:23AM

If a bryce ssp sells for a grand you have think this is worth
2 grand. Craig already traded it. I hope he got something
Nice

epatmythes · March 6, 2013 10:36AM

Dang Heritage suckered me in again this year! Took all the money I made from my Turkey Red sales and bought a 1/2 case today! I really wasn't expecting to get any SP duplicates, but sure enough, I got a full box worth

I haven't sorted yet, but I'll assume I was able to put together a complete base set (1-425)... but it is Topps, so who knows!!!

Looking to buy/trade for my SP needs

Need: 428, 429, 430, 434, 436, 438, 439, 440, 442, 443, 448, 451, 453, 456, 457, 458, 459, 460, 461, 465, 467, 468, 471, 472, 476, 477, 481, 483, 484, 486, 489, 491, 492, 493, 494, 500
Have: 432, 444, 454, 463, 473, 473, 474, 498

Now, with that out of the way... on to my HITS!!!

I know the put more auto's in this year, but 2 hits in 6 boxes... a personal Heritage best!

Wow... 5 In Action SP Variations in 6 boxes... maybe this is normal (Only plan to keep the Trout)

1 Mini & 2 Venezualens...

TNP777 · March 6, 2013 11:30AM

I wonder how scarce these image variations are going to be. Did they appear on the odds list? Five in six boxes isn't that scarce, but still scarce enough to command a premium.

If I'm counting correctly, the high-numbered players potentially have quite a few variations...

Matt Kemp:
base
blue border (Wal-Mart)
color variation (unknown print run)
action variation (unknown print run)
Venzuelan black black
mini /100
chrome /999
refractor /564
black refractor /64
gold /5
purple refractor

edit: I did a little surfing and came up with images for everything but the /5 gold refractor. I'm beyond glad I got out of the master set game.

parkerj · March 6, 2013 11:36AM

Walt, what is worth 2k? and what bryce ssp sold for 1k?

Mick65 · March 6, 2013 11:50AM

Are the "In Action" this year's version of the Image Variation. SOunds like the seeding might be about the same. Weren't they easier to find?

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