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  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:
    Indian Half Eagles Upgrade

    This is a popular 24 piece gold set, but difficult. PCGS described the set as: In 1908 the transition was made from the long-lived $5 Liberty series (1839-1908) to the radically designed $5 Indian. Both the $5 and $2 1/2 Indian gold pieces were introduced in 1908, and both carried the incuse design, never seen before (or since) on a United States coin. The $5 Indian series is filled with rarities. In fact, 15 of the 24 dates have a population of seven or less in MS65! Two of the 24 dates are unknown in MS65 or better, or at least uncertified. PCGS has graded well over 40,000 $5 Indians in all dates and grades, but barely 300 have qualified as MS65 or better. Key dates of the series in any mint state grade include the 1908-S, 1909-O, 1909-S, 1910-S, 1911-D, 1912-S, 1913-S, 1914-S, 1915-S, and 1929.

    There are 42 current registry sets, and more than 50 all-time. As popular as this set is, this is not a set that we have discussed here very often. I cannot remember the last time. Main reason, this is not one of the sets that Mr. Hansen appear to be focused on. Also, it is one of the few sets that he is not on the leader board. Currently the Hansen set is #6 in the All-Time rankings.

    Jim O’Neal is the name that comes to mind when you think about Indian Half Eagles. The Collection of Indian Half Eagles that he assembled has never been surpassed. He retired his set about 10 years ago. Sadly for whatever reason, he never obtained the PCGS Hall of Fame. All his coins were PCGS Condition Census Top Five except three. The set had six sole finest, PCGS POP 1/0, and five others tied for finest. I predict this set will remain at the top of the leaderboard for the foreseeable future.

    Number two on the board is Dr. Thaine B. Price. His set is described as: He collected coins for over two decades. His goal was to assemble the finest possible set of 20th Century gold series, i.e. the four series minted from 1908 to 1933. Dr. Price had a great eye for quality and he was assisted in his pursuit by one of the top experts/dealers in the field, David Akers. Dr. Price also decided to put together the finest possible set of circulation strike Barber half dollars, and he also built a nearly complete set of Gem proof Barber halves. When David Akers auctioned the Price collection in 1998, it was one of the major events of the year, even though the auction only had 213 coins. The Price collection of $5 Indians was spectacular, perhaps the best ever assembled. The set featured many Gems and Superb Gems, including some "finest known" specimens. The key 1909-O was the Eliasberg coin and it brought a mind-boggling $374,000 at the 1998 Price sale. The rare 1910-S was also the Eliasberg coin. The key 1913-S was a spectacular MS66 and it brought $110,000 at the Price sale. The 1915-S was a gorgeous MS65 and it brought $66,000 at the Price sale.

    Number Three is from Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection. The set is described as: The toughest 20th century gold series to assemble are the $5 Indians. My collection is highlighted by the ultra-rare 1909-0 in 65, 1909-S in 66, 1910-S and 1911-S in 65, finest known 1913-S in 66, and 1929 in 65. This collection was certified by PCGS in 1989, many of the grades would be even higher today. Of the remaining issues most were gems!! Although the complete set was auctioned in the David Akers section of Auction '90, many of the prices achieved have yet to be broken.

    Number Four is the Kutasi Collection. The set was retired in 2005 and the reached as high as number three in the registry. The set was described as: After completing this set, it dawned on me how tough and underappreciated this series really is. I would consider the 1914-s to be the rarest of the series in high grade. In MS65 even the common dates at one time sold for double where they are today. The set is highlighted by a superb 1914-s, a near gem 1909-o, and a very pq 1915-s, 1913-s and 1910-s. The rare 1929 is an also a gem. Half of the coins of this set are pop top and 90% have only 1 or two graded higher! Wrapping up the leaderboard is the second registry set of The Jim O'Neal Collection Of Indian Half Eagles. There is one significant set that was on the leaderboard but now is missing.

    For the last decade, Bob Simson set has been the top of the current sets. As can be seen, his set received the ten year ribbon last year. Sadly, the set has been desecrated, dropping from #2 All-Time to 30th. We know part of his collection is being sold by Heritage Auction. Why was the set not retired like many of the other great sets? It is not limited to the Indian Half Eagles, but all of his sets are being dishonored. My theory is this. From his recent video, he told us collecting sets were not important to him. That would lead me to believe that he never was a registry person, and probably never added a single coin himself. Then who did it for him and why? Sadly, whoever that was appear not to care anymore, and is allowing his sets to die a cruel death on the vine. This is very sad indeed.

    In The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part I Heritage Auction, there were nine of his Indian Half Eagles circulating strikes that were sold. To my knowledge, Mr. Hansen did not purchase any of them. The next five sales will be offering as follows:

    Two in November Sale
    Two in January FUN Sale
    Five in February Sale
    Seven in April Sale

    Only one Indian Half Eagle circulating strike specimen will be offered at the last auction in August 2021, and that coin will be a 1911-D MS65. What a way to bring a conclusion to the Indian Half Eagles. Will Mr. Hansen pickup any of these GEMs in the future? This recent purchase may show some interest turning to the Indian Half Eagles. We can watch and see.

    1914 Indian Half Eagle, MS66, POP 2/0, CAC Approved

    When I first saw this update, the first thing come to my mind was that Mr. Hansen purchased one of the Simpson Indian Half Eagles on a post auction rebound. When I looked it up, it was not the Simpson coin that he purchased but another 1914 Indian Half Eagle, PCGS MS66 Specimen. As I stated earlier, there were nine Indian Half Eagle CS specimens offered in the first sale, with one being the 1914 Five Dollar Indian, MS66 that realized $168,000. PCGS valued the coin at $100,000. The coin is the Jim O'Neal specimen and was marketed as The Sole Finest at PCGS. The population given was: 1 in 66, 0 finer. CAC: 2 in 66, 0 finer (8/20). If I read this correctly, there appear to be one PCGS MS66 CAC specimen and one other, probably NGC MS66 CAC. The NGC report still shows one MS66, but I believe that is now false. In the Heritage Auction description: The 1914 Indian half eagle is scarcer than earlier Philadelphia issues in the series, and the collecting challenge begins to become noticeable in grades above MS63. In MS65, this date is properly scarce, and that grade is the finest that most collectors deem this issue accessible. Just two higher-grade pieces are reported, one at PCGS and one at NGC, both designated MS66. Between those two, only the PCGS coin -- offered here -- has ever appeared at auction. This piece highlighted our 2011 FUN Signature sale as part of the Jim O'Neal Collection and realized a record-setting $126,500. It has not appeared at auction since, and one can only guess the sort of collector demand that it will encounter when it crosses the auction block at the ANA.

    The details of the coin are a not complete mystery. NGC published an article on the 1914 MS66 NGC coin. The article was posted 8/28/2020 and titled: High-grade NGC-certified 1914 Half Eagle in GreatCollections Sale. The articled stated: An exceptionally well-preserved 1914 Half Eagle is among the NGC-certified rarities being offered by GreatCollections in sales ending Sunday, August 30, 2020. Graded NGC MS 66, it is the single-highest among nearly 3,000 in the NGC Census. Bidding had already exceeded $63,000 two days before the auction ends. A conditional rarity, the 1914 Half Eagle is relatively easy to find in lower Mint State grades but nearly impossible to find at this grade. The Indian Head series was issued annually from 1908 to 1916, and returned for a last hurrah in 1929. The Hotlisted coin had 42 bids and in the end realized $70,933.88 with buyers fees. Eighteen days later, the O'Neal/ Simpson Specimen brought $168,000, just shy of $100,000 more!

    I cannot say for sure if Mr. Hansen or his team purchased the coin in the GreatCollections Sale. It would be very rare that they buy a NGC coin and hope to cross it over. Keep in mind, a PCGS MS 65 coin is valued at $12,000 and a PCGS MS 65+ coin is valued at $20,000. I have heard John Brush say buying NGC coins and crossing them is not a risk they see as necessary. The risk was definitely high, but in this case it certainly paid off for someone. I cannot find the coin ever being marketed in the PCGS holder. I am not able to determine any additional pedigree information on this specimen. If Ron Guth or anyone else can help, it would be appreciated?

    Without knowing more, this is a really nice upgrade to the Indian Half Eagle CS set that looks like now is showing some progress. The set now has eight PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens, including three certified as tied for finest by PCGS. The centerpiece is the 1908 Indian Half Eagle, MS76+, CAC, POP 1/0.

    1914 Indian Half Eagle, MS66, CAC Approved
    Certification #40222594, PCGS #8527, POP 2/0
    PCGSGV: $100,000 / Unknown

    $5 indians in gem or better with cac approval are difficult to find a trade at a big premium. Nice addition.

  • I show that the 1914 MS66 CAC $5 sold in the Simpson sale for $168,000. It originally comes from the O’Neal collection.

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    There could be other reasons. Perhaps it doesn't fit into Hansen's budget earlier?

    Ding, ding, ding!

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • BestGermanBestGerman Posts: 75 ✭✭✭

    Currin, I show the provenance for Mr. Hansen's new PCGS MS66 CAC 1914 Half Eagle as:

    Stack's/Bowers 8/2011:7700 (as NGC MS66 CAC), not sold - Great Collections 8/2020:873875 (as NGC MS66 CAC 1711199006), $70,936.88

    Ron Guth, Chief Investigator
    The Numismatic Detective Agency

  • neildrobertsonneildrobertson Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This may be a dumb question. How are you learning about his newest acquisitions if his set is closed to the public?

    IG: DeCourcyCoinsEbay: neilrobertson
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:
    1871 Eagle PR64DCAM

    The 1871 Proof Eagle has a mintage 30. This dated comment was offered by David Akers: The proofs of this date are rarer than the mintage would indicate and thus are among the rarest of the With Motto type. I would estimate that only 7-8 survive, and only the Garrett and Kaufman examples have appeared on the auction market in over 30 years. According to PCGS Auction history, six

    Provenance: Rarities Night (StacksBowers 2/2016), lot 226, realized $70,500; (David Lawrence 7/2020) #2102232, realized $70,500, D. L. Hansen Collection.
    [...]
    1871 Eagle, PR64DCAM PCGS
    Tied Finest Certified DCAM Proof 1871 Eagle
    Certification #25223370, PCGS #98811
    PCGSGV: $76,000 / realized $70,500

    Wow! The photos make that look much nicer than a 64! I wonder what's holding it back.

  • OGDanOGDan Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 26, 2020 8:10AM

    @Zoins said:

    @Currin said:
    1871 Eagle PR64DCAM

    The 1871 Proof Eagle has a mintage 30. This dated comment was offered by David Akers: The proofs of this date are rarer than the mintage would indicate and thus are among the rarest of the With Motto type. I would estimate that only 7-8 survive, and only the Garrett and Kaufman examples have appeared on the auction market in over 30 years. According to PCGS Auction history, six

    Provenance: Rarities Night (StacksBowers 2/2016), lot 226, realized $70,500; (David Lawrence 7/2020) #2102232, realized $70,500, D. L. Hansen Collection.
    [...]
    1871 Eagle, PR64DCAM PCGS
    Tied Finest Certified DCAM Proof 1871 Eagle
    Certification #25223370, PCGS #98811
    PCGSGV: $76,000 / realized $70,500

    Wow! The photos make that look much nicer than a 64! I wonder what's holding it back.

    Agreed, looks near perfect in the photos. My guess - hairlines in the fields that don't show up in the trueview.

  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from pictures but the fact that it isnt stickered tells me it properly has some hairlines that are hard to see in the picture. CAC is very strict on proof gold and that is probably what is holding it back from a higher grade. Regardless, a spectacular coin.

  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    Great coin! Super rare. It would be one of the few NON-CAC coins I would buy. Yes CAC is tough which why most non CAC are actually one grade lower. Why do people even debate this? it is true in most cases.
    I would pay the same price for a CAC 63+DCAM which this coin more than likely is. Wonderful coin! Unlikely to find another.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:

    1871 Eagle, PR64DCAM PCGS
    Tied Finest Certified DCAM Proof 1871 Eagle
    Certification #25223370, PCGS #98811
    PCGSGV: $76,000 / realized $70,500

    Not that it's necessarily worth any more today, but that seems like a great value.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @neildrobertson said:
    This may be a dumb question. How are you learning about his newest acquisitions if his set is closed to the public?

    I see many sets not closed.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @Currin said:

    1871 Eagle, PR64DCAM PCGS
    Tied Finest Certified DCAM Proof 1871 Eagle
    Certification #25223370, PCGS #98811
    PCGSGV: $76,000 / realized $70,500

    Not that it's necessarily worth any more today, but that seems like a great value.

    It's an amazingly beautiful, top pop, ultra low mintage coin. What's not to like? :)

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:
    Liberty Gold Dollar Update

    In my last Liberty Gold Dollar Update, the featured coin was the 1861-D Gold Dollar, MS64+, Duke Creek/Simpson specimen from the Bob Simpson sale offered by Heritage Auctions. This update does not reach that altitude, although it is a great upgrade to the little shiny coins. The D. L. Hansen Collection of One Dollar Gold is probably the best ever assembled, according to the PCGS registry. The circulation strikes have surpassed collections assembled by Harry W. Bass, Louis Eliasberg, Smithsonian, J.S. Morgan, Norweb Family, J.J. Pittman, Steven Duckor, and more. Many of these collections did not even reach 100% complete. If you consider the proof coins, the Collection ranking is also at the top. The Hansen Set tops sets assembled by Ed Trompeter, Garrett Collection, and not mention names like Bass and Eliasberg from the first list.

    The PCGS One Dollar Gold Basic, Circulation Strikes (1849-1889) registry set consists of 76 coins. The set is described as: This long-lived series is composed of three different types and includes rarities from such romantic Mints as Dahlonega, Charlotte, and New Orleans as well as San Francisco and Philadelphia. These small coins are rich in history, and many issues were minted in extremely small quantities. Some of the low-mintage dates were hoarded in Gem condition, most notably those of 1879-89, while others are unknown in Mint State 65 or better. This is another series that is filled with rarities, but it makes a magnificent set when completed. The set has 46 coins (60%) PCGS certified MS65 (GEM) or better. There are 23 coins finest certified by PCGS with ten coins graded POP 1/0. The lowest grade in the set is a pair of AU53 Dahlonega gold dollars (1855-D and 1856-D). The new coin is a MS68 specimen. Does it get any better?

    1850 Gold One Dollar MS68, CAC Approved, Ex: Eliasberg

    I asked does it get any better. Well, the answer is yes, when the coin is a MS68 with an Eliasberg Pedigree. This coin is one of the highlights from the Louis Eliasberg #3 All-Time PCGS Set of One Dollar Gold. The set is described as: The Eliasberg gold dollar collection was complete as a basic set. It did not include the ultra-rare 1849-C Open Wreath variety. Like other Eliasberg sets, his gold dollar set was a mix of proofs and circulation strikes, as was the collecting custom prior to the 1980s. The Eliasberg circulation strike Gold Dollars featured many high quality examples and all the rare branch mints. Highlights include the spectacular 1850 in MS67 which caused quite a stir at the Eliasberg sale when it brought a then eye popping $11,000. As stated here, when the Eliasberg coins were sold in October 1982, the new Hansen specimen was graded MS67 and realized $11,000. The history of the coin according to Eliasberg: He purchased the coin when he acquired the John Clapp collection in 1942, earlier from the George Crawford collection, auctioned by Charles Steigerwalt in 1894. The coin as purchased at the Bowers & Ruddy Oct '82 Eliasberg sale by Fred Weinberg. Legend Auctions commented: In the 1982 Bowers and Ruddy Sale of the United States Gold Coin Collection (Eliasberg), this coin appeared as lot 6, where the cataloger clearly describes this coin as being a possible "presentation striking." Regardless, today, it rates as one of the absolute FINEST Type One gold dollars of any date, and has a look that will delight any serious gold collector.

    I am not sure I would describe the coin as a presentation strike, but it does have a unique appearance. Look for yourself. The coin’s appearance was described on May 14th of this year in the Legend - Regency 38 Auction. In the auction, the coin was described as: Virtually perfect in every way, this coin is a delight to behold. The bold, brilliance of the wonderful golden luster booms all over. Both sides offer the sharpest striking definition, the die polish lines clearly visible in the fields. The devices are thickly frosted, while the surfaces have a rich, satiny glow that has touches of Prooflike flash in the obverse fields. Every detail is razor sharp, a masterpiece survivor of this early Type One gold dollar. The coin realized $88,125, an auction record.

    According to Legend, In SUPERB grade, the 1850 is virtually unobtainable; indeed the grading service populations combined in MS67 through MS68 represents a total of FOUR COINS, this coin accounts for three of them! The only other example is the Akers/Duckor MS67. There are now two MS68 specimens. Can I safely say the other coin is an upgraded Akers/Duckor specimen? Even If the coin cannot claim to be the finest, as stated just five months ago by legend: This is the SINGLE FINEST 1850 gold dollar that survives, the ultimate in grade, eye appeal, and with the Eliasberg name, the ultimate in pedigree! The coin is without question, tied for the finest!

    The coin was offered for the second time in 2020. This time Mr. Hansen did not flinch in pulling the trigger. The coin was offered in GreatCollections Auction last Sunday night, October 25th. The coin had an open bid of $81,500 and Mr. Hansen won the coin on one unchallenged bid. The final cost with buyer’s fee was $91.687.50. This is a new auction record, but I don’t think PCGS will recognize it for setting the new mark. The coin replaces PCGS Condition Census 1850 G$1 MS66+ Certification #39265141, POP 2/3. The new CAC Approved Eliasberg/Hansen coin is a great update. I hope you agree.

    Provenance: George Crawford Collection, (Charles Steigerwalt 1894); Matthew A. Stickney Collection, (Henry Chapman, 1907), John H. Clapp Collection; Clapp sold intact in 1942 to Louis E. Eliasberg; Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection, (Bowers & Ruddy 10/27/1982), Lot 6, realized $11,000, purchased by Fred Weinberg; Fontaine Collection, (Bowers & Merena 8/2010), lot 1430, realized $54,625; Victoria Rose, (Heritage 1/2013), lot 5775, realized $55,812.50; The HFW² Collection, (Heritage 1/2020), lot 4312, realized $88,125; (GreatCollections 10/2020), Item 895332, realized $91,687.50, purchased by D.L. Hansen Collection

    1850 Gold Dollar, MS68, CAC approved
    Certification #38999517, PCGS #7509, PCGS POP 2/0
    PCGSGV: $90,000 / realized $91,687.50
    Ex: Stickney/Eliasberg

    :open_mouth:

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2020 8:20PM

    @Currin said:
    1892 Morgan, PR68DCAM, CAC Specimen
    Certification #25515017, PCGS #97327, POP 1/0
    PCGSGV: $65,000 / Unknown
    Ex: Columbian Expo Set

    I just need to say that this coin is INSANE!

    Great pickup!

    Do we know who is behind the Columbian Expo Set?

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    Formatted version of recent sales of this coin (added grade column):

    date price grade venue
    2020-10 $91,687.50 PCGS MS-68 CAC Great Collections
    2020-5 $88,125 PCGS MS-68 CAC Legend
    2020-1 $57,600 NGC MS-68 CAC Heritage
    2013-1 $55,813 NGC MS-68 CAC Heritage
    2010-8 $54,625 NGC MS-67 CAC Bowers & Merena
    1982-10 $11,000 MS-67 Bowers & Ruddy Eliasberg Gold

    The Dukor/Akers example last sold in 2015-3 for $32,900 as PCGS MS-67 CAC.

    https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/details/1850-ms/7509
    Then sort by grade.

    I used Markdown table syntax to format the above table, if anyone is curious:
    https://www.markdownguide.org/extended-syntax/#tables

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    Hi Clint,
    I really like to look of the table, clear and precise. Is there a reason you did not include the seller/consignor? This is important information. I see you have is embedded in venue for Eliasberg.

    Side note: I wonder if the coin broke two figures in the George Crawford sale.

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree - the table I constructed is not complete.
    The consignor / collection name can often be interesting for high end coins.
    I made the table similar to the ones I make in the LS half dime guide,
    where the coins are often not high end, and there is limited page width.

  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    It's amazing that the four coins you mention are all CAC. Hard to believe there are were four CAC coins better than the examples in the Legend set that DLH purchased. Nice additions! Sadly the 1864 is not CAC making it a probable 67, and the only coin in the set that is not CAC. Amazing looking coin though! Nice set!

  • CalifornianKingCalifornianKing Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭

    @Oil2Olay said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    That depends on why it didn’t sticker. Doctored? Pass. Fill your collection with doctored 1/0s and you lose all respect

    UM, YEP!

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    What's this alt talking about? Is that little dot a sign of doctoring?

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Oil2Olay said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    That depends on why it didn’t sticker. Doctored? Pass. Fill your collection with doctored 1/0s and you lose all respect

    UM, YEP!

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    What's this alt talking about? Is that little dot a sign of doctoring?

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    I am not sure how this coin relates to the Hansen discussion. I don’t think this coin is in The Collection. Or is it? Please me know the connection and reason for posting.. thanks

    This is Hansen’s top coin. The Coin realized $38,525 in a 2005 StacksBowers Auction. The NGC coin realized $164,500.00 in Legend Auction a couple months ago.

    1883 Trade Dollar. Proof-67+ Cameo (PCGS). CAC, PCGS POP 2/0

    > @CalifornianKing said:

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • SSRSSR Posts: 235 ✭✭✭✭

    -> @Currin said:

    @Oil2Olay said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    That depends on why it didn’t sticker. Doctored? Pass. Fill your collection with doctored 1/0s and you lose all respect

    UM, YEP!

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    What's this alt talking about? Is that little dot a sign of doctoring?

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    I am not sure how this coin relates to the Hansen discussion. I don’t think this coin is in The Collection. Or is it? Please me know the connection and reason for posting.. thanks

    This is Hansen’s top coin. The Coin realized $38,525 in a 2005 StacksBowers Auction. The NGC coin realized $164,500.00 in Legend Auction a couple months ago.

    1883 Trade Dollar. Proof-67+ Cameo (PCGS). CAC, PCGS POP 2/0

    > @CalifornianKing said:

    That looks like it was just minted.

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  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Major Varieties – Countdown 21

    I started this Countdown in mid-April as the “Season Three Opener” that marked the third anniversary of the Hansen watch tread. The countdown started with 40 coins (last two boxes required for Mayor Varieties CS). After just a little more than six months, the list has dwindled down to 21 left. For the Major Varieties, the final destination will be 2 remaining. There are two uncollectable coins in the National Collection that are not obtainable. To reach this destination of only two left, two or three very difficult roadblocks are still in the way. First being the 1849-C Gold Dollar "Open Wreath", this will not be an easy coin to obtain. There are only two in PCGS holders, an AU58 and the finest known, Richmond PCGS MS62. The 1804 Eagle "Plain 4 Proof" by most accounts, only three are known. One of them is in the Harry W. Bass, Jr. Foundation Collection currently on loan to the Money Museum at the American Numismatic Association. Another one is the strong hands of the Tyrant. The third coin (Simpson Specimen) may be interesting to watch at the FUN Show in a couple months. Will Mr. Hansen pop for a Five Million Dollar coin? If he does, the next biggest roadblock could be the 1861 Double Eagle "Paquet" with two known. The 1861-S “Paquet” is already in The Collection, it sure would be nice to pair that coin up with one of the two 1861 Philadelphia “Paquet” Specimens.

    The PCGS Registry Set is a massive 3260 group of coins. To complete, this set would require the 2821 basic coins plus an additional 439 Major Varieties Coins. With this addition, there are 21 remaining coins in this quest. The Top 10 coins are ultra-rarities which the most common #10 coin has a survival est. of 11 coins w/ AU Finest Known. The top two coins are unique for known specimens, and both are permanently in Smithsonian, therefore uncollectable. The other eight is “technically collectable”, but that does not guarantee that Mr. Hansen will have an opportunity purchase all of them. Only time will tell.

    PCGS described the set as: Every classic U.S. coin in Circulation Strike from 1792 through 1964, every date, every Mintmark, every major variety, this set is the ultimate challenge. A collection of this size could take decades to assemble in high grade. As we know, Mr. Hansen has been actively assembling his collection for about four years. He has made a lot of progress being he is already half way through the countdown phase of the majority varieties. The 1840-D “Small D” half eagle is coin #3236/3260 and has only three quest and 21 major varieties coins remaining to complete thus tough set.

    1840-D Liberty Head Half Eagle “Small D”, AU53

    This coin is considered a Major Variety, but it is not all that major in price. There is one low uncirculated grade MS61 NGC that holds the Auction Record realizing $14,100 from a Heritage Auctions’ 2013 US Coins Signature Auction held in Houston, TX. This specimen previously sold in a 2007 Goldberg Auction for $13,800. The Finest PCGS certified coins are a pair of AU55s. NGC POP report does not separate the “Small D” from the basic population. I am not sure we can assume the auction record MS61 from The Ole Miner's Collection is the finest known.

    In the PCGS POP report, the new Hansen coin has a POP of 2/2. More importantly, this is next to last Liberty Head Major Varieties specimen need to be acquired. The last one is the 1861 Double Eagle "Paquet" that I mention earlier. What a great accomplishment it would be to complete a Liberty Head Gold set with Major Varieties. Will it be done? The 1840-D Liberty Head Half Eagle “Small D” was required even if the coin is not that significant in the grand scheme of things with the D.L. Hansen Collection.

    Expert Doug Winter describes this coin as: In 1840, the design of the half eagle was modified. The new head has a neck that is less curved and positioned slightly differently than the head of 1839. In addition, the mintmark was placed on the reverse, where it would stay on all regular issue United States gold coins struck through 1933. Thus the 1840-D is an important issue as it is the first Dahlonega half eagle with the modified Liberty Head design. The 1840-D half eagle is most often seen in Very Fine to Extremely Fine grades. It is scarce in the lower About Uncirculated grades and rare in the upper range of this grade. It is extremely rare in Uncirculated. This is a difficult issue to find with good eye appeal. Most 1840-D half eagles are heavily marked and most have their original surfaces stripped-off from repeated cleanings. Any example which has good eye appeal routinely sells for a strong premium over a typical coin. To be a AU53, I believe the coin has eye appeal. The coin has appeared twice in Auction and in both sales; the coin was presented as AU55 NGC.

    Variety 4-C: Small D. The date is level in the field between the bust and the denticles. The upright of the 4 in the date is centered over a denticle. The first three digits show the remains of previously cut digits at the lower right. Most significant are the remains of an earlier 8 that run through the center of the lower loop of the 8 in the date and out the right side to the crossbar of the 4 in the date. The reverse has a Small D mintmark with a narrow opening that is about the same width as the upright of the mintmark. The upright of the mintmark is positioned over the gap between the inner serifs of the two diagonals of the V in FIVE. A die crack runs from the rim through the right diagonal of the V, through the right side of the mintmark, through the feather and branch stem and on into the shield. This variety appears to be rare. (Doug Winter)

    The coin first appeared in Heritage’s 2008 Signature Coin Auction in Houston, TX. It was described as: Important 1840-D Small Mintmark Five, AU55. The coin was in an unattributed AU55 NGC holder and details included: Variety 4-C. Although infrequently discussed in the literature, there are two known mintmark varieties, either Small or Tall, for the 1840-D half eagles. NGC does not recognize the two mintmark sizes. The Small Mintmark variety is normally seen, like this piece, with a vertical die crack through its center. This example only has the crack visible to the lower shield border, although some are known with the same crack continuing to the upper reverse border. Light surface marks are evident on both sides, with attractive green-gold surfaces and traces of lighter yellow toning. The coin realized $6,325.

    The next appearance is March 2018 in Kagin's ANA National Money Show Auction. In the same NGC holder from the 2008 sale, the coin was described as: Lustrous AU 1840-D Half Eagle 1840-D Half Eagle Winter 4-C. AU-55 NGC. The warm honey-gold surfaces of this attractive Dahlonega half eagle offer a decided olive glow throughout, while a trip to a light source reveals faint orange iridescence in the fields. Not as heavily abraded as this date is often seen, the present specimen presents no more than a smattering of tiny stray marks, few of which are available to the naked eye. Choice for the grade, and certain to entertain strong activity at bidding time. I think the description is very accurate. For AU53 gold, the coin is lustrous and abrasions are light. You may disagree, and that’s OK. In this offering, the coin realized $4,500.

    There are no clues on how that coin was acquired for the Hansen Collection. I guess some resourceful coin dealer saw the coin was needed in that Hansen Collection found a AU55 NGC specimen, crossed it to PCGS and offered to Hansen. According to PCGS Price Guide, the PCGS AU53 specimen is valued as $7500. Even if Hansen paid less, there was still some meat on the bone.

    This coin gets The Collection one step closer to completing the Major Varieties. It is a PCGS Condition TOP Five Specimen that I feel to be a nice addition to The Collection.

    1840-D Liberty Head Half Eagle “Small D”, AU53
    PCGS, POP 2/2 (Die Variety)
    Certification #40525961, PCGS #8199
    PCGSVG: $7500 / unknown


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    The Major Varieties Set is an expansion of the PCGS Basic Set. To complete, this set would require the 2821 basic coins plus an additional 439 Major Varieties Coins. With this addition, there are 21 remaining coins in this quest. The first two coins are not collectable, so the completion of this set would be 99.94%. PCGS describes this set as: Every classic U.S. coin in Circulation Strike from 1792 through 1964, every date, every Mintmark, every major variety, this set is the ultimate challenge. A collection of this size could take decades to assemble in high grade.

    Top 10
    1797 Half Eagle "Large Eagle, 15 Stars" (1 Known – Permanently in Smithsonian) Uncollectable
    1797 Half Eagle "Large Eagle, 16 Stars" (1 Known – Permanently in Smithsonian) Uncollectable
    1861 Double Eagle "Paquet" (2 Known)
    1804 Eagle "Plain 4 Proof" (3 Known)
    1849-C Gold Dollar "Open Wreath" (4 Known w/ one defective)
    1958 Small Cent "Doubled Die Obverse” (3 Known)
    1795 Large Cent "Jefferson, Lettered Edge" (5 Known w/ VF Finest Known)
    1810 Half Eagle "Large Date, Small 5" (5 Known w/ AU Finest Known)
    1842 Half Dollar "Small Date, Rev of 1839" (Survival est. 10 w/ 1 Mint State)
    1804 Quarter Eagle "13 Star Reverse" (Survival est. 11 w/ AU Finest Known)

    Next 10
    1797 Half Cent "Gripped Edge" (Survival est. 13 w/ VG Finest Known)
    1797 Half Eagle "Small Eagle, 15 Stars" (Survival est. 20 w/ 1 Mint State)
    1820 Half Eagle "Curl Base 2, Sm Letters" (Survival est. 14 w/ 8 Mint State)
    1800 Dollar "Wide Date, Low 8, AMERICAI" (Survival est. 25 w/ AU Finest Known)
    1798/7 Eagle "7X6 Stars" (Survival est. 25 w/ 3 Mint State)
    1812/1 Half Dollar "Large 8" (Survival est. 35 w/ AU Finest Known)
    1839 Half Dollar "Receeded Edge, Small Letters” (Survival est. 50 w/ 4 Mint State)
    1798 Quarter Eagle "Wide Date" (Survival est. 50 w/ 8 Mint State)
    1798 Dollar "Large Eagle, Knob 9, 4 Lines" (Survival est. 125 w/ 2 Mint State)
    1795 Half Dollar "Small Head" (Survival est. 450 w/ 1 Mint State)

    Last 1
    1887/6 Three Cent CN (Survival est. 800 w/ 750 Mint State)

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Major Varieties – Countdown 20

    This is the second update to the Major Varieties – Countdown this weekend. Friday, I posted the 1840-D Liberty Head Half Eagle “Small D” variety. Today, we see an update to the Half Dollar Major Varieties. A few months ago, the half dollar countdown stalled at four coins remaining:

    1795 Half Dollar "Small Head"
    1812/1 Half Dollar "Large 8"
    1839 Half Dollar "Receeded Edge, Small Letters”
    1842 Half Dollar "Small Date, Rev of 1839"

    I discussed in detail the ultra-rarities remaining. This is not one of them, but the coin is tough to find. The new update is certified as 1812/1 Overton 101, “Large 8” variety. PCGS placed the survival estimate around 35 coins for all grades. The PCGS POP report indicates 51 coins have been certified. This is conflicting information and more than likely, a few in the POP report have been sent in more than once. The finest certified by PCGS is a pair of AU55 specimens. As for auction appearances, six coins have been auctioned in the past twelve months. The grade range was VG8 to VF30, with one problem coin certified as XF Details. The coins realized $3360 to $10,800. The Hansen upgrade is one of the six coins; a VF30 that appeared in a StacksBowers Auction.

    The facts for the 1812/1 Half Dollar "Large 8” variety was well described in a 2010 Heritage Auction: The obverse is the 1812/1 overdate with a large 8 in the date. The reverse has a stray serif at the bottom of the N in UNITED, described as recutting in Overton, but actually from an unidentified punch. Its location is incorrect for a recut N or an inverted N, unless the original punch was drastically out of position. The reverse die was also used for 1812 O-102, the Small Overdate variety. This early die state piece has no evidence of die cracks, clash marks, or other die anomalies on either side. Later states exist, identified as O-101a. The 1812/1 Large 8 ranks among the most important half dollar varieties in the Capped Bust series. In addition to its Low R.5 rating, with only about 60 to 80 examples surviving, it is also an important Guide Book variety that further increases the demand. In the 1970 second edition of Overton, the O-101 and O-101a die states were listed as R.7, meaning four to 12 pieces exist. As of today, PCGS has certified eight coins as 1812/1 “Overton 101 Large 8” variety, and nine coins as 1812/1 “Overton 101a Large 8” variety. With a total POP of 51, then by doing the math, there are 34 to be attributed to one of the two varieties.

    1812/1 Capped Bust Half Dollar “Overton 101 Large 8”, VF30

    This is not a census condition specimen for this tough variety, but still a very nice addition to the Capped Bust Half Dollar Collection. As stated by one of the Bust Half Dollar experts: Very tough variety to find nice. Looks like “Mr. Hansen” has a superb original example. I agree, it is nice for originality, but not the finest grade by PCGS standards. He added: Nice original examples are tough to come by and as you know they top out in AU55 grade. The finest example of this variety to appear in public, is an AU58 NGC that realized $14,100 in a 2013 StacksBowers Auction. The pair of PCGS AU55 specimens has never appeared in auction, but one did as an AU53. The auction record is for a PCGS AU53 coin that realized $43,125. It was from the Donald R. Frederick Collection that sold in Heritage’s 2010 CSNS US Coin Auction in Milwaukee, WI. I believed this record coin is now one of the two PCGS AU55 coins and is currently in Dr. Charles Link Collection.

    The Hansen VF30 coin is from The E. Horatio Morgan Collection of Half Dollars. This collection was recently offered by public sale in StackBower’s September 2020 Collectors Choice Online Auction. The coin was described as: The Overton-101 dies correspond to the Large 8 Guide Book variety of the 1812/1 Capped Bust half dollar. Both the early and late die states are scarce in an absolute sense, the present coin an attractive mid grade example of the early die state O-101 attribution. A significant and desirable coin that is sure to sell for a strong bid. The coin realized $7,200. If you like to read more about the E. Horatio Morgan sale, there was a feature article in CoinWeek. The 1812/1 Capped Bust half dollar was a feature coin.

    https://coinweek.com/auctions-news/e-horatio-morgan-collection-half-dollars-in-stacks-bowers-sept-2020-online-auction/

    At this time, there is not much additional information known about this coin. I am not sure if the coin was purchased by Mr. Hansen in September Auction. Due to the two month delay in the update, I have my doubts. I would assume the coin was a post auction offer. With this addition, the Hansen Major Varieties Countdown is now just 20 coins (one blue box remaining). As 2020 is quickly approaching closeout, I am not sure if we will see more. With these to recent additions, it does lead me to believe the Major Varieties are now in focus. There are at least three Simson coins that are on the Hansen countdown lists. One is a six figure coin, and the other two are seven figures! Let’s watch and see what happens.

    1812/1 Capped Bust Half Dollar “Overton 101 Large 8”, VF30
    PCGS, POP 2/4 (Die Variety), POP 8/23 (Major Variety)
    Certification #39197111, PCGS #39441
    PCGSVG: $12,000 / unknown


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    The Major Varieties Set is an expansion of the PCGS Basic Set. To complete, this set would require the 2821 basic coins plus an additional 439 Major Varieties Coins. With this addition, there are 20 remaining coins in this quest. The first two coins are not collectable, so the completion of this set would be 99.94%. PCGS describes this set as: Every classic U.S. coin in Circulation Strike from 1792 through 1964, every date, every Mintmark, every major variety, this set is the ultimate challenge. A collection of this size could take decades to assemble in high grade.

    Top 10
    1797 Half Eagle "Large Eagle, 15 Stars" (1 Known – Permanently in Smithsonian) Uncollectable
    1797 Half Eagle "Large Eagle, 16 Stars" (1 Known – Permanently in Smithsonian) Uncollectable
    1861 Double Eagle "Paquet" (2 Known)
    1804 Eagle "Plain 4 Proof" (3 Known)
    1849-C Gold Dollar "Open Wreath" (4 Known w/ one defective)
    1958 Small Cent "Doubled Die Obverse” (3 Known)
    1795 Large Cent "Jefferson, Lettered Edge" (5 Known w/ VF Finest Known)
    1810 Half Eagle "Large Date, Small 5" (5 Known w/ AU Finest Known)
    1842 Half Dollar "Small Date, Rev of 1839" (Survival est. 10 w/ 1 Mint State)
    1804 Quarter Eagle "13 Star Reverse" (Survival est. 11 w/ AU Finest Known)

    Next 5
    1797 Half Cent "Gripped Edge" (Survival est. 13 w/ VG Finest Known)
    1797 Half Eagle "Small Eagle, 15 Stars" (Survival est. 20 w/ 1 Mint State)
    1820 Half Eagle "Curl Base 2, Sm Letters" (Survival est. 14 w/ 8 Mint State)
    1800 Dollar "Wide Date, Low 8, AMERICAI" (Survival est. 25 w/ AU Finest Known)
    1798/7 Eagle "7X6 Stars" (Survival est. 25 w/ 3 Mint State)

    Last 5
    1839 Half Dollar "Receeded Edge, Small Letters” (Survival est. 50 w/ 4 Mint State)
    1798 Quarter Eagle "Wide Date" (Survival est. 50 w/ 8 Mint State)
    1798 Dollar "Large Eagle, Knob 9, 4 Lines" (Survival est. 125 w/ 2 Mint State)
    1795 Half Dollar "Small Head" (Survival est. 450 w/ 1 Mint State)
    1887/6 Three Cent CN (Survival est. 800 w/ 750 Mint State)

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really like that 1840-D $5 Small D

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    Silver Three Cent Upgrade

    With several big auctions coming up quickly, I think we will soon see several big coins. This is a little one that I want to get in before all the action starts. I posted a pretty good write-up for the Proof Silver Three Cent set a few days ago. This is an update to the mint state set. PCGS describe the coin set as: This is our smallest coin. It's also the only one struck in 75% silver (that's the "type one" of 1851-53 only). There are lots of tiny mintages in the series, many condition rarities, three different types and a lot of history. Why does the set stop in 1872? Because the 1873 is a "Proof-only" issue with no circulation strikes being issued. One more bit of trivia: Only one date in the series has a mintmark. Can you name the date and Mint?

    The D.L. Hansen Collection of Silver Three Cents ranks #2 in the PCGS registry. The set consist of 23 coins. The overall rating for the set is 66.66 with bonuses. It is trailing the number one set by only 0.05 points. This is not a set like many of Hansen’s sets that are bumping their head on the set grade ceiling. The maximum possible is 69.49, so as you can see, there is plenty of room. With this new upgrade, the set now has five coins tied for finest certified at PCGS. Unusually, there are no POP 1/0 specimens in the set. According to PCGS report, there are 15 POP 1/0 PCGS certified specimens (out of 23). So where are they? They certainly are not in the registry. Is there a super unpublished set? Are they just part of a bank vault high grade collection somewhere? Are they dispersed among 15 collections? The fact that I know for certain, there are none in any of the top registry sets.

    The Hansen set is graded from MS64 to MS68. This new upgrade is the second MS68 coin, with none grading higher. There are eight coins that are not PCGS Condition Conus Top Five. This presents a lot of opportunities for upgrading.

    1852 Three Cent Silver, MS68, Ex: Simpson

    Expert Ron Guth comments: The 1852 Three Cents Silver boasts the highest mintage of the entire series. In fact, its mintage of 18,663,500 coins is more than seven million coins higher than the nearest contenders (1853 and 1865). As might be expected, this is a common coin in just about every grade. To be sure, it has the highest overall certified population of any date in the series (per the PCGS Population Report as of October 2011). The most common Mint State grade is MS-64, followed by MS-63 (with a nearly identical population figure). Above MS-65, the population drops sharply, especially in MS-67. The finest examples certified by PCGS are a pair of MS-68s.

    This is a post Simpson sale buy. We see post auction buys frequently for this collection. I think the reason for many coins like this is that Mr. Hansen posts Max Bids. I think this happens for many of the coins that can “improve” his sets and the coins have an equal of better appearance. This may be one of the coins that he placed an early bid, but never went back and adjusted. In Heritage’s 2020 sale of selections from The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part I, the coin was described as: The Type One three cent silver pieces was only produced from 1851 to 1853. The three Philadelphia issues are generally plentiful in high grade, but they are each individually scarce in MS67. However, the only Type One issue known in MS68 is the 1852. This piece is one of just two MS68 coins listed at PCGS, making it not only a Condition Census 1852, but a Condition Census Type One. NGC list one other piece in this grade. The quality is simply incredible, boasting flawless, frosty mint luster with boldly rendered design elements. Flecks of russet toning grace the borders, leaving the interiors with a delicate champagne tint. Eye appeal is outstanding. This is one of the most important Type One three cent silvers in existence, and it represents an unequaled opportunity for the Registry collector type coin specialist.

    In the Heritage Sale, they do not list a pedigree earlier than Bob Simpson. In PCGS Pedigree and History Information, they indicate the Simpson coin is from Knoxville Collection, and one time owned by Jay Parrino (The Mint). The auction record for an 1852 Three Cent Silver is $17,625. This was realized in Heritage’s 2016 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Tampa. The coin was a MS68 NGC and was not listed with any pedigree.

    As I indicated, Mr. Hansen did not purchase the coin in the Bob Simson sale. It was offered for sale in mid-October on Pinnacle Rarities website. It is very interesting there was no mention of Bob Simpson or any pedigree in the description. Is that the choice of some coin dealers? The coin was described as: This piece is one of just two MS68 coins listed at PCGS, and it not only a Condition Census 1852, but a Condition Census Type One, as the 1852 is the only Type One issue known in this exalted grade. (NGC list one other piece in this grade.) Incredibly preserved surfaces display frosty mint luster and crisply executed devices. Hints of russet and a sky blue patina adorn the peripheries of both obverse and reverse while the central elements are a delicate champagne hue. Outstanding quality and eye appeal. An important opportunity for the Trime specialist and the advanced type collector alike. The ask for the coin was $19,500.

    As discussed a few weeks ago, The D.L. Hansen Collection of Proof Three Cent Silver is what I think to be the finest graded set to ever be assembled. There is a lot of room for the mint state coins to improve if the high end coins become available and the series becomes more significant on Mr. Hansen priority list. It appear the Hansen set will become top set in the registry shortly, but to dominate with a majority of the fifteen PCGS POP 1/0 specimens shows no signs of happening after four years of building the collection. This was a great belated upgrade, now let’s watch and see what’s happens next.

    Provenance: Knoxville Collection; Jay Parrino (The Mint); Bob R. Simpson Collection, (Heritage 9/2020), lot #10017, realized $16,200; Purchased from Pinnacle Rarities, (10/2020), D.L. Hansen Collection

    1852 Three Cent Silver, MS68
    Tied for Finest Certified, No Type One Coin is Finer
    Certification #40322945, PCGS #3666
    PCGSGV: $25,000 / Ask $19,500
    Ex: Knoxville/Simpson

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    Amazing coin DLH! Congratulations! Well done!

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Perfection said:
    Amazing coin DLH! Congratulations! Well done!

    Perfection 14 was a great set of DMPL Morgan’s. Where are they now?

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Upgrades from the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Auction – Part 3

    The first two updates we saw the two DMPL specimens from the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Collection. We will now move into the other great Morgan Silver Dollars obtained from this collection. John Brush wrote about the purchase on his weekly blog titled, “Coins We Love”. He wrote: Last week was supposed to be the Whitman Baltimore Expo. Honestly, I had forgotten all about the show until I had to participate in the accompanying auction that occurred last week. As usual, we represented Mr. Hansen in bidding in the auction of the Larry H. Miller Collection (another Utah native) and we came home with some amazing finest known Morgan Dollar rarities at some fantastic prices. What’s really fascinating is that these Morgans have been off the market for nearly 20 years and not located in any registry set. Now that they have entered the collecting marketplace, the former #1 rated Morgan sets may have some new competition. While record prices were achieved on several of these pieces, they were still far below what some expected the coins to bring.

    I wrote a few days ago that I thought the prices realized were pretty strong. This was especially in reference the 1895-S MS67DMPL that realized $336,000. According to John Brush, they were still far below what some expected the coins to bring. John does not indicate specifically the coins purchased or the number of coins purchased from the collection. As I indicated earlier, according to the updates, I believe Mr. Hansen purchased eight of the coins. The lowest price that he paid was $66,000 for the 1886-S MS67, Certification #06553739, PCGS POP 5/0, CAC Approved. The other seven coins all realized six figures. I will feature today the 1892-S MS68 Morgan Silver Dollars pedigreed to Jack Lee.

    Does it get any better than PCGS Hall of Fame Jack Lee? He was award the PCGS Hall of Fame in 2002 for his Morgan Dollars Basic Set, Circulation Strikes (1878-1921). The set requires only 97 coins, but his collection was almost twice that size. The HOF comments: This is the undisputed all-time greatest set of Morgan dollars. In fact, it is one of the finest individual sets of United States coins ever assembled. It contains more than the 97 required coins; in fact, there are 175 coins in the set, not counting the proofs. Of those 175 coins (mint state and proof-like and deep mirror proof-like) there are 172 that qualify as the finest graded or tied for the finest graded. An incredible accomplishment combining unprecedented patience, dedication, and resources. Highlights of the Jack Lee Collection are an 1884-S graded MS68, the famous Wayne Miller 1886-O graded MS67DMPL, the Eliasberg 1889-CC graded MS68, the Norweb 1893-S graded MS67, an 1896-O graded MS66, an 1896-S graded an unbelievable MS69, and literally every other coin in the collection. The 1892-S MS68 Morgan Silver Dollar was not one of the coins mentioned in this summary, but the coin still was one of Mr. Lee’s amazing specimens.

    1892-S Morgan Dollar, MS68 Ex: Jack Lee

    The following is edited version authored by Q. David Bowers from my "Silver Dollars & Trade Dollars of the United States: A Complete Encyclopedia" (Wolfeboro, NH: Bowers and Merena Galleries, Inc., 1993): The 1892-S dollar is one of those United States coins that is very common in worn grades but which is an extreme rarity at the MS-65 level. In 1992, a coin in VG-8 grade was worth about $10, while an MS-65 coin would have brought $50,000 or more at auction. In other words, an MS-65 coin is worth 5,000 times as much as a VG-8! The explanation is that many if not most 1892-S dollars were placed into circulation at or near the time of issue, and few were saved in Mint State. However, in the days of long ago the 1892-S was not recognized as a rarity. No accolades were given to the issue whenever an Uncirculated coin crossed the auction block in the period extending up to 40 years after it was minted. In Ed. Frossard's sale of March 8, 1898, a Mint State 1892-S fetched $1.05; in the U.S. Coin Co. auction of May 19-21,1915, $1.50 was obtained for another; and in Thomas L. Elder's auction of April 13-14, 1917, $1.50 was again achieved. In fact, it was not until comparatively recent years that the rarity of the 1892-S has been recognized; this after the San Francisco Mint dispersals from storage in the 1940s and 1950s apparently yielded no bags of this date, nor were any among the untold millions of Morgan dollars paid out by the Treasury during the 1962-1964 emptying of government vaults. However, it is known that at least one bag of 1892-S dollars was paid out by the San Francisco Mint in 1925-1926. Few coins reached numismatic circles, as there was little collecting interest in Morgan dollar mintmarks at the time. Perhaps, some of the AU coins now known came from that release.

    The new Hansen coin sold in auction in 2005 from The Jack Lee Collection, III Sale. The Heritage auctioneer describe the coin as: Finest Certified 1892-S Morgan Silver Dollar. Heritage Auctions described the rarity as: Only 1.2 million Morgan Dollars were coined at the San Francisco Mint in 1892, and many of these immediately went into circulation. The mintage itself makes an intriguing sale, for each and every month of the year saw exactly 100,000 coins struck. This is a remarkable and perhaps unique situation in the history of the United States Mint. Apparently most of these coins were immediately paid out and placed in circulation, for nearly all known examples today are well worn. In grades below XF, the '92-S is a plentiful and inexpensive issue. Those coins that grade XF or AU are scarce and more expensive. Mint State coins, regardless of numerical grade, are all but impossible to locate. In fact, in all Mint State grades, PCGS and NGC have only certified 103 examples of this issue, doubtless with multiple resubmissions. It is possibly the case the nearly the entire mintage entered circulation. Occasional pieces would be found with other dates, but apparently not even a single bag of Mint State examples have been found since the late 1920s, when a bag (or possibly more) was paid out at the San Francisco Mint. This event went more or less unnoticed in numismatic circles.

    Wayne Miller provided commentary in his textbook: "The typical mint state 1892-S dollar is well struck, with good luster and fewer than average bagmarks. This date is now known to be not nearly as rare as the 1893-S in fully uncirculated condition; probably two dozen or more have surfaced in the past six years [prior to 1982]. The 1892-S has been denigrated as a poor investment by most advisory letters, to the effect that it is one of the few key date Morgans which is not instantly saleable in fully gem condition. There is not doubt, however, that the 1892-S is still very rare in fully mint state condition. Of the more than one million pieces which were struck, probably fewer than two hundred specimens exist in choice BU or better condition. A few truly superb specimens have appeared in recent years, the finest of which realized $31,000 in Auction '79. It subsequently resold for nearly $40,000. The coin had gorgeous peripheral toning and a glowing golden-yellow center. Because of its rarity in the higher grades, the 1892-S is often counterfeited. Never buy a high-grade 1892-S without proof of authenticity. Further, because grading is so critical, examine such a specimen very carefully. Ignore advertisements of 'typical weak strike BU' 1892-S dollars. Of the twenty or so mint state specimens the author has examined, virtually all were well struck."

    As stated by John Brush, the coin has been off the market for a long time, 15 years to be exact. In the StacksBowers sale last week, the rarity of the coin was described as: As one of the leading condition rarities in the Morgan silver dollar series of 1878 to 1921, the appearance of even a low end Mint State 1892-S at auction is a noteworthy event. The Larry H. Miller specimen in PCGS MS-68 is the finest certified 1892-S as well as one of the most famous of all Morgan silver dollars in numismatics. Highly lustrous with a smooth, frosty texture, both sides are brilliant apart from wisps of subtle champagne-gold iridescence. Sharply struck over all design elements, this is an expertly preserved and incredibly beautiful Superb Gem that stands tall among the numerous highlights in the fabulous Miller cabinet.

    There are no hints for the pedigree prior to Jack Lee. If the coin could be traced further back would be great to know. The D.L. Hansen Collection of Morgan Dollars now has eight MS68 PCGS certified specimens with four of them with the MS68+ certification. The 1892-S was a nice addition that realized $630,000 in the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Sale. PCGS placed the value of the coin at $600,000. It does not have the CAC Approval sticker. This was the only coin in the eight purchased by Mr. Hansen that did not have the sticker. This is an very nice upgrade to the collection and I will speak more on the D.L. Hansen Morgan Set in the days to come. Wait and Watch!

    Provenance: Jack Lee I Collection; Jack Lee II Collection; Jack Lee III Collection, (Heritage 11/2005), lot 2309, realized $322,000; Larry H. Miller, (Stacks/Bowers 11/2020), lot #6358, realized $630,000, D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1892-S Morgan Dollar MS68
    PCGS POP 1/0, Finest Certified 1892-S Morgan Silver Dollar
    Certification #07455547, PCGS #7218
    PCGS Value Guide: $600,000 / realized $630,000
    Ex: Jack Lee / Larry H. Miller

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2020 2:40PM

    Upgrades from the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Auction – Part 4

    Today, we will see the fourth coin updated from the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Collection. I discussed a few days ago the focus set for Morgan Dollars in the D.L. Hansen Collection was a complete specialty set of DMPL specimens. The Hansen Collection currently represents the #1 spot in the registry. Mr. Hansen purchased two coins for the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Collection to improve that set. The new focus being seen is with the basic Morgan Dollars. It appears to me a decision was made to jump in with both feet. He purchased six non-DMPL from the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Collection for a total of eight. All eight coins were magnificent, with seven being in the top ten for prices realized in the sale.

    With the purchase of these eight coins, The D.L. Hansen Collection leaped from the 17th spot in the ranking to number six! I was not expecting the focus to shift this quick and intense. The top five sets include the who’s who in Morgan Dollars royalty. There are two PCGS Hall of Fame collections, Jack Lee and the California Collection. There is the current number one registry set, Gold River Collection. Rounding out the top five are the top two sets of all-times, Coronet and Illinois Collection. It appears the Hansen Collection has set sights for starting to break into the leaderboard of the top five. Let’s look at the top key date coins in the 97 coin set and see how well the Hansen Collection is doing.

    I will bring in focus the key date top twelve coins based on PCGS weighting (8-10). There is only one coin weighted 10, the 1893-S. There are five weighted as nine, and six weighted at eight. Here are the twelve key date Morgan’s presently in the Hansen Collection.

    1893-S (10.00) MS65 POP 5/1
    1884-S (9.00) MS68 POP 1/0, Finest certified by PCGS
    1889-CC (9.00) MS64+DMPL POP 3/2, Finest PCGS certified DMPL.
    1895-O (9.00) MS67 POP 1/0, Finest certified by PCGS
    1896-O (9.00) MS64 POP 32/3
    1901 (9.00) MS64 POP 33/3
    1886-O (8.00) MS64+ POP 27/4
    1892-S (8.00) MS68 1/0, Finest certified by PCGS
    1893-CC (8.00) MS65 POP 13/2
    1893-O (8.00) MS65DMPL POP 7/2
    1894 (8.00) MS64 POP 285/65
    1895-S (8.00) MS67DMPL 1/0, Finest certified by PCGS

    To highlight, four of the twelve key dates are PCGS 1/0, Finest certified by PCGS. All but one, 1894 MS64 are PCGS Condition Census Top Five. This makes up a pretty nice collection of key date Morgan Dollars. Overall the Hansen set has a GPA of 66.12, compared the #5 set at 66.17 and the current top set at 66.15. The grades in the Hansen set range from six MS64 to four MS68+. There are a couple of MS64 coins that really needs replacing, the 1894 and 1894-O.

    As mention, the only current top five set is the Gold River Collection. In comparison, that set has four POP 1/0 specimens, but none of them are the key dates. The set grade range is from the 1893-S MS63 to pair of stunning MS69 specimens. The set is mostly PCGS Condition Top Five specimens with just a handful Top Ten. There are only three coins outside the Top Ten, but not by much.

    So, what would it take to be the all-time top set for Morgan’s? It will not be an easy task. The last collection to take a shot was The Illinois Collection. The set made a run for the top, but retired February 2020 after reaching the all-time runner-up spot. The set was assembled by Barry Stuppler. He stated that it took 14 years to assemble the Illinois Morgan Dollar Collection, which encompasses five of the All-Time Finest Sets. You may recall that Mr. Stuppler was inspirational in getting Mr. Hansen stated with his St. Gaudens Double Eagle set. Mr. Stuppler marketed the Illinois Set in 2019 for $9.7 Million. His desire was to keep the set together and sell intact. The set contained 12 PCGS POP 1/0 specimens, with all but one being from the Coronet Collection. After an unsuccessful attempt to sell intact, Mr. Stuppler broke the set and stated to sell individually. Two of the PCGS POP 1/0 specimens (1889 and 1899-O) are in the Gold River Collection. I am not sure where all the remaining ten PCGS POP 1/0 specimens are presently located, but there are a few being offered on Mr. Stuppler website (and eBay).

    The set that enjoys the top spot in the registry is the Coronet Collection. (Note: By GPA, The Jack Lee Set is still #1) This set retired in 2015 and the coins was auctioned by Legend Rare Coin Auctions. This set consisted of an unprecedented 17 POP 1/0 specimens. The two currently in the Gold River Collection are the only two that I can account for. It will be interesting to see if Mr. Hansen motivation turns to making a run in the basic Morgan Dollar set. If he do, the TOP POPs will need to come out of hiding.

    1897-O Morgan Dollar, MS67 Ex: Jack Lee

    Described as “Exceedingly Rare Superb Gem 1897-O Dollar”, this is another specimen from the famous Jack Lee Collection. The following is edited version authored by Q. David Bowers from my "Silver Dollars & Trade Dollars of the United States: A Complete Encyclopedia" (Wolfeboro, NH: Bowers and Merena Galleries, Inc., 1993): A few bags of 1897-O dollars came on the market in the East, in the greater area comprising New Jersey, eastern Pennsylvania, and southern New York, in the late 1940s and again in the early 1950s. These were from storage in the Treasury Building in Washington, D.C. There was little investor interest at the time. It has been said that a few bags of 1897-O dollars were part of the Treasury release of 1962-1964, from storage in a sealed vault at the Philadelphia Mint, but I have found no specific record of them. Harry J. Forman, who never handled a bag of 1897-O dollars, reported that New York dealer Joel Coen is said to have had 10 rolls, perhaps from the 1962-1964 distribution. Other 1897-O dollars turned up in quantity through the branch of the Federal Reserve Bank in Helena, Montana, but these were lightly circulated coins mixed in with "slider" 1894-O, 1895-O, and 1896-O pieces. A bag of 1897-O dollars was reportedly stolen from LaVere Redfield in 1963 (Miller, p. 6). The 1897-O issue is not one to have attracted much attention, for the typical piece is lightly struck and unattractive. Once again, the New Orleans Mint workers were just doing their job: turning out massive quantities of dollars, without regard to quality.

    The new Hansen 1897-O Morgan Dollar sold in a 2005 auction was from The Jack Lee Collection, III Sale. The Heritage auctioneer described the coin as: One of scarcer dates that is extremely difficult to locate in grades of MS63 or finer. This stunning coin is one of the very Finest Known of this date, with a combined NGC and PCGS Population of a mere 3 coins, with none seen finer. The surfaces are pristine and show virtually no signs of handling although we will note a tiny nick near the center of Liberty's broad cheek as a pedigree marker. On the reverse there is a minute planchet crack on the edge below the D of DOLLAR. Bright and lustrous, with an attractive layer of light gold toning over the entire coin. Simply stated, this is one of the absolutely Finest Known examples of this date, and it is worthy of a runaway price. Rarity and quality of this magnitude can not be duplicated at any price, and if this opportunity passes, a similar coin may not be offered again in decades. The other PCGS MS67 specimen is from Gregg Bingham NFL Collection that sold in an Heritage 2001 auction for $109,250. At the time, the coin was described as: Possibly the Finest Known 1897-O Morgan Dollar, MS 67 PCGS. The Jack Lee / Larry H. Miller / D.L. Hansen specimen has a CAC Population of only one.

    In the StacksBowers sale last week, the rarity and condition of the coin was described as: The Miller 1897-O is a phenomenal strike and condition rarity that well represents this challenging New Orleans Mint Morgan dollar. The strike is as full as we have ever seen for the issue, and rivals that seen even on the best struck San Francisco Mint Morgan dollars. The luster is equally impressive, with both sides displaying smooth mint frost over virtually pristine surfaces. Enhanced by blushes of champagne-pink and pale silver iridescence, this is a gorgeous coin that is unsurpassed in either quality or eye appeal by any other 1897-O dollar that your cataloger (JLA) has handled for auction over the last 20 years.

    As with many of the Jack Lee Morgans, there are no additional hints for an earlier pedigree. I wonder if this and several other coins have ties to the Wayne Miller Collection (1/86). This was the tenth highest purchase realized in the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Sale. The coin realized a new auction record at $348,000. PCGS Price Guide was pretty close in valuing the coin at $350,000. To me, the PCGS POP 2/0 specimen was well worth the price realized. For those in the community that values the sticker, the coins is CAC Approved. There are still three more Larry H. Miller upgrades to go. Wait and Watch!

    Provenance: Jack Lee II Collection; Jack Lee III Collection, (Heritage 11/2005), lot 2329, realized $126,500; Larry H. Miller, (Stacks/Bowers 11/2020), lot #6373 realized $348,000, D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1897-O Morgan Dollar MS67
    PCGS POP 2/0, Tied Finest PCGS Certified
    Certification #05700150, PCGS #7248
    PCGS Value Guide: $350,000 / realized $348,000
    Ex: Jack Lee / Larry H. Miller

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Correction on the 1802/1 Bust Dollar pedigree

    This is a great community of numismatic professionals and experts. Then you have someone like ColonelJessup. Rick has the memory of an elephant. I don’t know how he does it. Yesterday, I pulled this from an old StacksBowers sale.

    The coin can be traced to the Buddy Ebsen Collection that was sold by Superior Galleries' in June 1987. StacksBowers described the ownership as: Its known provenance begins with the 1987 Buddy Ebsen sale, featuring coins collected by the beloved television and stage actor. While Ebsen was an avid and knowledgeable collector of gold coins from the United States and abroad, he does not appear to have pursued silver coins with similar vigor. Its early provenance has not yet been traced.

    Rick provided and verified the real story. All the silver and some gold coins in the sale of Buddy Ebsen Collection were not actually from the actor’s collection. Again, this was not a Buddy Ebsen coin nor were the vast majority of the sale. The coins were the remaining inventory of New Netherlands Coins (Moritz, then Charles Wormser). Kevin Lipton bought the entire group and consigned them en masse to the Goldbergs Auction of the Buddy Ebsen Collection. According to Rick, this is common knowledge to many veterans, and now to all of us. Rick indicated that all the coins in the Ebsen sale up through and including the $3 gold was from inventory of New Netherlands. Thanks Rick for the clarity.

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I recall learning that on some past forum threads. Here is one of them:
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/122367/buddy-ebsen-collection

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2020 10:36AM

    i just love visiting this thread from time-to-time and walking away with nothing but a big grin on my face from viewing all those ravishing coins!

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We can't see your grin! ;)

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    i just love visiting this thread from time-to-time and walking away with nothing but a big grin on my face from viewing all those ravishing coins!

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Upgrades from the Illinois Collection – Part 1

    It is not that surprising to me that we are back on the Morgan Dollars this soon. With the coins that Mr. Hansen purchased in the sale of Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollar Collection, he is fired up on Morgans. I thought I saw this coming after I talked a little about the Illinois Collection of Morgan Dollars a couple weeks ago. I indicated the set made a run for the top, but retiring in 2/12/2020 after reaching the runner-up spot all-time. I reported the set was assembled by Barry Stuppler and it took him 14 years, which encompasses five of the All-Time Finest Sets. Mr. Stuppler marketed the Illinois Set for $9.7 Million around the middle of 2019. I remember discussing the set with Mr. Hansen and John Brush late last year. The set was offered to Mr. Hansen, but I recall him saying at the time he was very happy with his #1 Prooflike Set of Morgans. Who would not be?

    As stated before, Barry Stuppler ‘s desire was to keep the set together and sell intact. The set contained 12 PCGS POP 1/0 specimens; with most all the sole finest Illinois coins are from the Coronet Collection. After an unsuccessful attempt to sell intact, Mr. Stuppler broke the set and stated to sell individually. Well, now Mr. Hansen has decided to dip into the well, and it is a vast well of PCGS POP 1/0 specimens. The purchase made by The D.L. Hansen was for four PCGS sole finest specimens:

    1881 MS67+ PCGS POP 1/0
    1883-S MS67+PL PCGS POP 1/0
    1898-O MS68DMPL PCGS POP 1/0
    1903-S MS67+ PCGS POP 1/0

    These four upgrades provided enough of a bump, that now the Hansen Collection is #4 in the all-time ranking. This is a move up from #6 and the first time ever on the all-time leader board for the Basic Morgan Dollars. It also represents a move into first place in the current rankings.

    Of the four coins purchased, I believe two would be considered mid to high five figures and the other two low to mid six figures. For the biggie, the PCGS value on the 1883-S MS67+PL PCGS POP 1/0 specimen is $450,000. I will feature two of the coins starting with the 1903-S MS67+ PCGS POP 1/0 today. With the purchase of the eight Miller coins and now the four additional Illinois Top POP coins, The D.L. Hansen collection leaped from the 17th spot in the ranking just a few weeks ago to number four! I was expecting the focus to shift, but maybe not this quickly and intense.

    1903-S Morgan Dollar, MS67+, Ex: Eliasberg/Lee/Simpson

    The following is edited version authored by Q. David Bowers from my "Silver Dollars & Trade Dollars of the United States: A Complete Encyclopedia" (Wolfeboro, NH: Bowers and Merena Galleries, Inc., 1993): Quantities of 1903-S dollars were stored at the San Francisco Mint and paid out in small numbers over a long period of years, until November 1953, when several bags were released, followed by other dispersals during the next several years. At one time John Skubis owned a bag of this date. By the late 1950s, apparently most were gone from government storage. The issue was not represented to any extent in the 1962-1964 Treasury release. Most 1903-S dollars are well struck, very lustrous, and quite beautiful. The main problem is that there are not enough coins to satisfy the demand, and the issue has become high priced. This is an important, key issue. I have never handled a quantity of them, and few other dealers have either. In grades from MS-60 to 63, the 1903-S is one of the rarest of all Morgan dollars. In higher grades it is rare as well, but not in the top half dozen or so issues. I suggest that 1,000 to 2,000 survive in MS-60 to 62 grade, followed by an increase to 1,500 to 3,000 in MS-63, then back to 1,000 to 2,000 in MS-64, and, finally, just 400 to 800 in MS-65 or better preservation.

    According to PCGS Rarity and Survival Estimates, they estimate 665 specimens in GEM condition. This sounds like a lot, but not really for Morgan Dollars with their popularity. For a very nice CAC Approved GEM, I would imagine you would be hard press to find one less than $10,000. Ruth Guth wrote: The 1903-S Morgan Dollar is a scarcer date and one which is tough to locate in all but the lowest grades. Uncirculated examples are scarce but not rare (the PCGS Population Report showed over 600 Mint State examples in November 2011), and the most frequently seen grade is MS-64. The finest 1903-S Silver Dollars certified by PCGS are a trio of MS-67's. Prooflike 1903-S Dollars are rare and Deep Mirror Prooflike examples are either exceedingly rare or may not even exist. Even as common as this coin seems, the 1903-S Morgan Dollar is considered a semi-key and carries a PCGS weight of seven.

    This coin has a great pedigree and has been in many of the greatest collections of all-times. It is easy to understand why Mr. Hansen wanted this coin in his collection. The coin last appearance in a public sale was the 2014 Regency IX Auction in Las Vegas, NV. At that time, the coin was in a PCGS MS67 holder with CAC sticker. The coin was described by Legend as: This piece is tied for the finest known with the piece in the Coronet Collection. Besides killer, original toning, this coin is the epitome of perfection! It’s not often you can buy a coin, especially a Morgan, with a lineage that can be traced all the way back to the Mint. In addition, this was the last PCGS piece to sell at auction, when it was purchased by Sunnywood for $86,250.00 (Heritage 1/09). Since this sale, the coin has met the PCGS “plus” standard and is current the sole finest certified by PCGS. The coin realized $73,437.50 in October 2014.

    Additional, Legend provides a fairly nice detail legacy of the coin: The better half of a match-toned pair of original superb gem Eliasberg Morgans (along with the 1902-S in this set), this is just a spectacular representative of this extremely tough late date in the series, and it is considered the finest known survivor. A lovely light gold and blue toned specimen with outstanding underlying luster; it is almost impossible to find this quality and originality in a 1903-S. Fortunately, the Clapp-Eliasberg collection included many such coins carefully preserved at or near the time of original issue. If anything, the best of the Eliasberg Morgans are still underrated! Purchased directly from the San Francisco Mint by J.M. Clapp, October 1902; to his son J.H. Clapp (1906); Clapp estate to Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. (1942); to his son Richard A. Eliasberg (1976); Bowers & Merena, Eliasberg Sale (4/8/97:2321); Gary Wolkwitz; Heritage, Long Beach Signature Sale (6/1/01:6656); Jack Lee 2, Heritage 2009. Maybe the coin in 2014 was underrated, but not anymore.

    The coin holds the auction record for 1903-S Morgan Dollar. In The Arno Collection which was auctioned by Heritage in January, 2009, it set an auction record of $86,250. In the auction, the coin was described as: The present coin is a magnificent specimen. The surfaces exude satiny luster underneath hints of heather, gold, and blue toning. The fields are well preserved, and the finely detailed devices show no distractions. The eye appeal is spectacular. This coin is simply one of the finest known specimens of this key date, and it boasts an illustrious pedigree. The sale included a fascinating story of the original owner: John M. Clapp was the patriarch of a family of distinguished numismatists. He was one of the first collectors to systematically order coins from the branch Mints every year. When he died, his collection passed to his son, John H. Clapp. In much the same way that T. Harrison Garrett's sons became the custodians of his collection after his death, the younger Clapp picked up where his father left off. John H. Clapp purchased coins at some of the most important auction sales of all time, including the George Earle Sale (Henry Chapman, 6/1912), where he acquired the finest known specimen of the ultra-rare 1825/4 half eagle. After Clapp's death, his collection (including the present coin) was purchased intact by Louis Eliasberg, and became the foundation for one of the greatest collections of all time. Eliasberg is the only collector to ever complete a collection of U.S. federal coinage by date, mintmark, and major variety.

    Great coins have a way in making their way into great collection. Without the motivation gained by the Larry H. Miller Morgan Dollars, this coin may not have ever made its way into the D.L. Hansen Collection. It is really interesting how these things work themselves out. Mr. Stuppler listed the coin on his Mint State Gold website for $210,000. The coin has just set there for several months. He described the coin as: This FINEST KNOWN Morgan has toned surfaces. The majority of the surfaces have a light earthy tone with mauve undertones but hues of blues, purples, and burnt orange can also be found. Bold devices are strikingly articulated against predominantly clear fields. Beaming with original mint luster and coming to life in intricate details, this numismatic treasure is sure to elevate any collection or portfolio. He gave credit as being from the Eliasberg Collection: Here is a 1903 San Francisco $1 Silver Morgan Dollar, which has graded MS67+ by PCGS and has been holdered with the prestigious Illinois Set label. This Morgan is perfect for PCGS registry set collectors. Prior to the Illinois Set, this Morgan belonged to the also well-renowned Eliasberg set. Interesting, no mention of the other great collections this coin was in, Jack Lee, Bob Simpson, John H. Clapp, etc. The coin label pedigrees Eliasberg/Illinois Collection only. I hope Mr. Hansen at some point in the future; have all his top coins completely pedigreed as they rightfully should be. I will show you the top Stuppler purchase in a couple days, the 1883-S MS767+PL. Please wait and watch.

    Provenance: John M. Clapp Collection, purchased from the San Francisco Mint in 10/1903; John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 to Louis E. Eliasberg; Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection, (Bowers & Merena 4/1997), Lot #2321, realized $30,800; Gary Wolkwitz Collection, (Heritage 5/2001), Lot #6656, realized $40,250; Arno Collection, (Heritage 1/2009) Lot #5067, realized $86,250; Jack Lee Collection; Sunnywood Collection; Bob R. Simpson Collection, (Legend Auctions 10/2014) lot #220, realized $74,438; Illinois Set Collection (PCGS Set Registry), offered by Barry Stuppler (Mint State Gold), D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1903-S Morgan Dollar MS67+
    PCGS POP 1/0, CAC Approved
    Certification #37728328, PCGS #7288
    PCGS Value Guide: $175,000 / Asked $210,000
    From Illinois Collection, Ex: Eliasberg/Lee/Simpson

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004

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