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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful looking Ikes! Great seeing so many top pops in the series.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Given all of the top pop moderns he has been buying in recent months, I wonder if Hansen's secondary goal is to complete as many #1 PCGS registry sets as possible.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He’s going to need a bigger vault

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  • neildrobertsonneildrobertson Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    Given all of the top pop moderns he has been buying in recent months, I wonder if Hansen's secondary goal is to complete as many #1 PCGS registry sets as possible.

    I think that follows from having the best overall set. You could conceivably have the best complete US set without having the best set in many of the subsections. It seems clear that he also values having his coins be some of the best examples available in each of the respective subsets. I think the spending on moderns reflects that he truly values everything, which is a little different from the bias for the classics that many high end collectors have.

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Go baby, go baby, go!!!! ;)

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Geez, look at that strike on the 1974 Ike!

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was very happy and excited to see that John and Del picked up the classic key 1817/4 for his Lettered Edge Capped Bust Half Dollar set. It shows they valued what might have been the last key coin Eliasberg added to the set when he bought a 1817/4 from Al Overton. Congratulations gentleman!

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another wow!

  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful, beautiful coin.

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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is not to LOVE about that 1795 Eagle........

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad to see he bought the 1841 $2.5

  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭

    Currin, thank you for your latest post. I think that goes a long way in clearing the air on the 33. The coin is in a genuine holder. No one is being misled. It’s not for everyone, but it is a heck of a gap filler. Good luck with the future newps.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2019 1:03PM

    @golden said:
    Mr. Hansen has now reached 60% of the 100 Greatest U.S. Coins! Eliasberg had 59%.

    At least 9 coins that Eliasberg owned aren’t entered into his set. I see another 3 or 4 that I don’t know if he owned or not but are possibilities.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2019 1:52PM

    @golden said:
    Mr. Hansen has now reached 60% of the 100 Greatest U.S. Coins! Eliasberg had 59%.

    Is that book an opinion of the authors or are the coins picked absolutely the 100 greatest coins as acknowledged by the vast majority of successful professional numismatists, researchers, etc?

    It seems to me that eventually, anyone with enough money, time, and the ability to accumulate enough coins now privately held after some folks die before he does, Mr. Hansen or his family should eventually reach the goal he has set. I hope he is around to see it done. :)

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2019 7:23PM

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @golden said:
    Mr. Hansen has now reached 60% of the 100 Greatest U.S. Coins! Eliasberg had 59%.

    At least 9 coins that Eliasberg owned aren’t entered into his set. I see another 3 or 4 that I don’t know if he owned or not but are possibilities.

    I agree with you Bruce. I wish PCGS Registry would fix the Eliasberg sets. Several sets are missing coins. As for the 100 Greatest U.S. Coins, getting 60 is a great feat and should be celebrated. Although, if you look at the top 25, Eliasberg had 17 coins and presently Hansen has 12. I think Hansen will get there, but will take time for coins to come available. When he hits 18 of the top 25, now that will be something special.

    And complete the Famous 10.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That will indeed be an accomplishment as I see only 17 that are likely to be available

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2019 10:39AM

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @golden said:
    Mr. Hansen has now reached 60% of the 100 Greatest U.S. Coins! Eliasberg had 59%.

    At least 9 coins that Eliasberg owned aren’t entered into his set. I see another 3 or 4 that I don’t know if he owned or not but are possibilities.

    A lot of the grades listed in Eliasberg's set are also outdated so those comparing the two sets are tilting at wind mills if relying only on the registry. It possible to "beat" Eliasberg's set by rebuilding it completely as many of the coins are now in higher graded plastic.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't say that now with all the modern collectors.

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Peace dollars were moderns to Eliasberg. And nobody gave a crap about needing gems then...

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great update and review Currin. You continue to amaze! Congratulations to Del on obtaining the 1817/4 key to the Capped Bust Lettered Edge Half Dollars and the final key added to the famed Eliasberg set.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2019 8:53PM

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  • ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    That 1817/4 Half Dollar was one of my favorite coins in the sale this time. I think Hansen got it for a bargain.

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is nice!

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @STEWARTBLAYNUeMIS said:
    Lastly the proceeds from the
    Thomas Irwin Collection will go to fund a research facility at the Overlook Hospital in New Jersey
    In the name of the owner of the Thomas Irwin Collection .

    Thanks for adding this great information. Congratulation on the 2019 PLATINUM LEVEL sets. Also, you have the King of Lincolns, finest certified 1958 DDO. I thought I read somewhere that you have two of them, but my memory is getting shaky.

    Probably most important, is there a link to Overland Hospital, where we can contribute in the name of Thomas Irwin? It may be that some of us that would like to make a contribution.. Thanks again

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  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭

    Like the addition of the 1817/4.

    I brake for ear bars.
  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only Full Band Certified by PCGS

    It was recently said by a prominent collector that while some noteworthy collectors are building Numismatic historic sets, Del Hanson is buying Lincoln Cents and Peace Dollars. This is not all true, because he is buying Roosies too. I have to admit, I was not expecting this purchase. JB told us that they was not chasing modern POP 1/0 specimens. He thought the risk outweighed the benefit. Therefore as you can see in the chart below, Roosevelt Dimes - Major Sets that contain clads, The Hansen Collection is not as strong as the silver sets. He has nine PCGS POP 1/0 certified Roosevelt Silver Dimes, but there were no TOP POP 1/0 in clad before this purchase.

    1974 Roosevelt Clad Dime PCGS MS67FB – Only Full Band!

    This is not just any POP 1/0 specimen. Previously, the 1974 was the last Roosevelt Dime that could not be found with full band designation. Last fall the first one was certified. The first time that I saw it was a thread originated by Paul titled: 1974 PCGS Roosevelt Dime MS67FB...the last dime graded in FB. There is not much additional information known on the coin. Someone mentioned earlier in the Hansen watch thread that he paid 5 figures for the 1974 MS67FB dime. I have not been able to verify, but I have no reason to believe the statement to be anything but true. I was told by a Roosie specialist that the 1974 was the last date/MM needed to complete the FB Roosie set and it was that way for over a decade. Several big Roosie hunters have been trying for years to pop that coin hence the 5 figure price tag.

    It is not uncommon for Mr. Hansen to do things that we don’t expect. He did not need this coin to complete a FB set, because his clad set is not even 90% FB. But the coin is unique and he has a coin that no one else has. That is what makes great collections, right? I think, contrary to his critics, Mr. Hansen knows how to assemble a great collection. Is he even half way there yet? I don’t know.

    Being Mr. Hansen is the only person that can complete a full band Roosie set, it will be interesting to watch and see if that is something he wants to do. There are other tough FB coins. So, the task is not easy, but is there anything easy about building the Greatest Collection ever assembled?

    1974 Roosevelt Clad Dime PCGS MS67FB
    PCGS Coin #85145 / PCGS Serial #36622991 / POP 1/0
    ONLY PCGS 1974 FULL BAND / PCGS Value = unknown

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Being Mr. Hansen is the only person that can complete a full band Roosie set

    For now. For a long time - over 2 decades - there were no gem 1877 trade dollars graded at PCGS. Check out the current pops...

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just don’t get his focus on modern high end coins vs really incredible 18th and 19th century true rarities

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:
    I just don’t get his focus on modern high end coins vs really incredible 18th and 19th century true rarities

    More bang for the buck? You can raise the overall grade average of the set faster by upgrading coins with a minimum weight of 1 that actually should have a weight of 0.01

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,659 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:
    I just don’t get his focus on modern high end coins vs really incredible 18th and 19th century true rarities

    Only makes sense in the context of Completing All of IT

    Agreed, 99.9% of "everything" holds no interest for me either, but dayum, have to respect the Big Project!!

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  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stooge said:
    1975-No/S Roosevelt Dime PCGS PR68 in upcoming Heritage sale. It's the pop (1/0) of 2 known.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1975-10c-no-s-pr68-pcgs/p/1299-26003.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    So this auction has ended and no one has mentioned it. Did Hansen purchase this coin? It ended up selling for $380,000 w/o the juice. Being that there are only 2 specimens, I think this is a good price and if Hansen bought it, I think he got a tremendous deal. Should've gone higher.


    Later, Paul.
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 8, 2019 5:07PM

    @Stooge said:

    @Stooge said:
    1975-No/S Roosevelt Dime PCGS PR68 in upcoming Heritage sale. It's the pop (1/0) of 2 known.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1975-10c-no-s-pr68-pcgs/p/1299-26003.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    So this auction has ended and no one has mentioned it. Did Hansen purchase this coin? It ended up selling for $380,000 w/o the juice. Being that there are only 2 specimens, I think this is a good price and if Hansen bought it, I think he got a tremendous deal. Should've gone higher.

    The coin brought $456,000 against a PCGS price guide price of $349,600. The latter represents the amount it realized when it sold previously, in 2011.

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  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Stooge said:

    @Stooge said:
    1975-No/S Roosevelt Dime PCGS PR68 in upcoming Heritage sale. It's the pop (1/0) of 2 known.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/roosevelt-dimes/dimes/1975-10c-no-s-pr68-pcgs/p/1299-26003.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    So this auction has ended and no one has mentioned it. Did Hansen purchase this coin? It ended up selling for $380,000 w/o the juice. Being that there are only 2 specimens, I think this is a good price and if Hansen bought it, I think he got a tremendous deal. Should've gone higher.

    The coin brought $456,000 against a PCGS price guide price of $349,600. The latter represents the amount it realized when it sold previously, in 2011.

    Yes, I know this. The price guide in this case is worthless. The price guide follows the coin. If it sold for a million dollars, the PG would have to be adjusted.

    I still feel this was a steal at either price.


    Later, Paul.
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Registry nonsense chasing modern coins not even around when Eliasberg was collecting while passing on irreplaceable and long-standing rarities

  • neildrobertsonneildrobertson Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:
    Registry nonsense chasing modern coins not even around when Eliasberg was collecting while passing on irreplaceable and long-standing rarities

    If I was him, I would be fueled by this type of comment. He's showing some characteristics that make him stand out from some of these other well known collectors of the past.

    1974 was 45 years ago. How long does material have to be "out there" before the concrete starts to set and people feel like they know if a top pop has staying power? (This is a sincere question)

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  • @neildrobertson said:

    @Boosibri said:
    Registry nonsense chasing modern coins not even around when Eliasberg was collecting while passing on irreplaceable and long-standing rarities

    If I was him, I would be fueled by this type of comment. He's showing some characteristics that make him stand out from some of these other well known collectors of the past.

    1974 was 45 years ago. How long does material have to be "out there" before the concrete starts to set and people feel like they know if a top pop has staying power? (This is a sincere question)

    I would say at least another 50 years to make sure the POP report doesnt get completely changed over time anymore, which it will for everything after 1900 still.
    e.g. all the highest graded Mercury Dimes will change for sure over time, now there is one 1938-D in 68, in 10 years there will be 5 or 10 or 20 probably + 68+ and 69s.

    Thats not going to happen for the MS 67 1794 Half Cent.

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