@specialist said:
Reynolds is nothing more then a self promoter. I think and hope he was forced to hide. He has NO cred among any major respected dealers.
Now please, back to Delloy! I can tell you, he will have several NEWPS to post shortly.
I disagree. I think Reynolds is/was a great numismatic writer and has plenty of support in the industry.
@specialist said:
Reynolds is nothing more then a self promoter. I think and hope he was forced to hide. He has NO cred among any major respected dealers.
I like @Analyst's articles and reporting. I like his auction reports because they are timely, about notable coins, and have interview quotes from dealers and collectors. The latter is otherwise near impossible to get. If he has no cred, why would they talk to him and let him quote them for his articles? I also like it that he has articles for beginning collectors and people getting into a new series as well.
If anything, I think we need more writers like him in our hobby.
This rare San Francisco half eagle is well worn, but does have CAC sticker. This purchase was called by jonruns on Sept 2nd of this month. In knowing that DLH needed this coin, he noticed that Doug Winter Numismatics sent out an email of their ANA purchases which included an 1864-S $5 PCGS/CAC AG03. Being the coin was not listed the next day in the NEWP as he expected, it made him wonder. He contacted DW and was told the coin had been purchased. Well now we know who purchased it. Great investigate work Jon.
The coin did eventually appear on DWN website. A sold total was posted on the website, the coin realized $12,500. To make matters more interesting, there is not a PCGS Price Guide value for the AG3. The next coin up, G4 is valued at only $6000. DLH paid doubled the amount for a lower graded specimen. There is no identified history on the coin. Although DWN states: This piece is fresh to the market and it comes from a collection which has been put away for decades. As for the condition, he says, If we used split grades to designate coins; I’d call this a VG8 obverse/AG3 reverse. It is extensively worn but totally problem-free with attractive warm natural russet color and problem-free surfaces.
As with other coins, the story to tell for this addition is the count toward the Eliasberg Quest. Also, the coin falls short in matching Eliasberg’s coin. His specimen had an estimated grade of XF45. The specimen was Ex. Atwater; Mehl (1946). The coin was sold by Bowers & Ruddy Oct '82 price realized $2,530
Provenance: Doug Winter Numismatics
1864-S $5 AG3 CAC Lowest PGGS Graded Specimen
This is a great story. Love hearing about how this collection is being built!
Hansen picked up two of Laura’s beautiful little ladies from the Regency Auction 28 this week. The two half dimes are replacements in the early proof collection. One of the coins is a PCGS POP 1/0 and the other is an exceptional Pop 2/1.
The coins do not have a history listed by Legend. Only a brief hint is given in one of the coins description: This coin has never sold in auction before. It is fresh to the market. Both specimens have lovely toning and are CAC labeled. They replaced coins in Hansen’s collection there were of high grade and Condition Census coins. This is a good example of not only are low and mid-grade coins are being upgraded, but also very nice specimens are being replaced when better coins become available.
1849 Half Dime PR66 CAC Cert 35147640 PCGS POP 1/0 – Replaces 1849 PCGS PR65 POP 1/1
This is the Finest 1849 that have been encapsulated by PCGS. The mintage for this proof is published to be 15. Coin Facts places the survival to be 10. There are only three coins certified by PCGS, and they are a single PR64, PR65, and PR66. The Hansen collection presently has the PR65 and PR66 specimens. I will not claim the PR66 to be the finest. There are three 1849 Half Dimes certified NGC, with one of them being a PF66 CA. This would be the Kaufman-Eliasberg specimen. The NGC PF66 is the only 1849 that has been certified as Cameo. I think the argument could be made that the NGC is the finest of all specimens.
Legend described the coin as: This example is among the FINEST known, with just the Eliasberg coin graded NGC PR66 CAM sitting with this GEM at the top of known specimens. The mirrors are highly reflective and beam from under the magnificent, rich blue toning. The eye appeal is exceptional in every way. The watery fields are devoid of any post minting distractions; the only thing we can find on this coin is a lint mark from die polishing at 12:00 on the obverse. The devices are very sharply struck up and the eye appeal of this beautiful coin cannot be beat by any of the other survivors. The mintage was a paltry 10-15 and the number that survive is miniscule. As one of the FINEST, this coin belongs in a world class cabinet. The Pittman coin set a record for the issue, as a "raw" GEM PROOF in October 1997, when it sold for $38,500. The Eliasberg coin, when it sold as part of the Kaufman Collection in 2008 realized $48,875. This SUPERB GEM is a real prize for the advanced collector and we can see a record being shattered when this one crosses the block. This is a VERY RARE opportunity!
This purchase did set a new record for this proof half dime. Legend estimated the coin to sell for $45,000 - $50,000. When the dust settled, the coin realized $52,875.
Provenance: Legend Rare Coins
1849 Half Dime PCGS PR66 CAC - A SUPERB example of this VERY RARE Proof Half dime (LRCA)
Kaufman-Eliasberg specimen PR66CA Specimen
1866 Half Dime PR67 CAM CAC Cert 35588497 PCGS POP 2/1– Replaces 1849 PCGS PR67 POP 2/3
The 1866 Proof half Dime is not as rare as her 1849 sister. But she is special in her own way. This is not the finest specimen certified by PCGS, but still (in Legend words) stunning. They describe as Stunning SUPERB GEM! This coin is tied for second FINEST KNOWN 1866 (behind a PR67 DCAM). The mintage for this proof is published to be a whopping 725. Coin Facts places the survival to be 550. So as early proofs go, this is not a rarity. The coin that Hansen replaced was PR67. I will include the picture of the coin being replaced for you to compare.
Legend described the coin as: Outstanding mirrors seem like those you would find on a proof Morgan, not a small Half Dime; they are super deep and beam boldly from all over, offering crystal clear reflection. A vibrant mix of original champagne/gold/pale reddish gold/blue colors swirl all over. Miss Liberty and every detail are so fully struck and are covered with such a thick frost they look like they were sculpted from a block of frosted ice. The eye appeal is powerful! This coin has never sold in auction before. It is fresh to the market. There is a Collectors Universe Value of $11,000. The other PCGS/CAC example realized $11,163 in our January 2018 Regency Auction. If you are building the ultimate GEM Proof Half Dime set, or just love Top Pop rarities, this coin is for you!
Legend estimated the coin to sell for $7,250 - $8,000. The coin realized $ 8,518.75. The Auction record is $19,975 for a PCGS PR67DC that sold in 2015 by Heritage Auctions. This is a blast white specimen. Hansen’s specimen is toned. I have included all specimens for you to compare. Do you like the blast white better?
The 1849 PR-66 (V-8) is the Pittman coin:
PR-66 2017 NGC 3319303-001 Pittman
PR-66 2015-8 Heritage $19,388 NGC 4203001-001 Pittman
PR-65 1997-9 Akers $38,500 Pittman
This is hinted at in the description, and it's straightforward to match the image to the 2015-8 Heritage photos.
I list 5 different 1849 V-8 proof half dimes in my census based on auction records from the past 20 years (especially the census in the Kaufman sale).
As you mentioned, this one is #2 since the Eliasberg is cameo. https://web.stanford.edu/~clint/hdag/1849_half_dime_guide.pdf
Zions... this is one of those coins that can go in several sets. Yes, in many cases it is considered a pattern. PCGS have a number for both a US regular issue and pattern issue. The PCGS number for the US regular issue is 7009. I don’t remember the pattern number, but there is one. The coin is listed as a required coin in the U.S. Coins Complete Set with Major Varieties, Proof (1801-1964).
There were some discussions on including this coin back on pages 3 - 4 on this forum. The reason for including was discussed then. Hint; It has to do with the Eliasberg Set. If you did not follow the thread from the begainning, then you have missed a great deal. When you get time, I am sure it would be interesting the read from the begainning... thanks for the question.
@tradedollarnut said:
Stellas are patterns. So are 1856 flying eagle cents
It’s a great coin and seems to have a reason for being in the set, but is still different from those. There are different types of patterns. Ones designed to test coinage designs and pieces de caprice fantasy coins made for private collectors.
This coin is a new addition to the collection. This is the first 1866 Gold Proof that Hansen has acquired. The 1866 silver proofs are fairly common, but the gold proofs are a different story. The mintage for this proof is published to be 30. PCGS places the survival to be 20 to 22 Known. The PCGS POP reports 4 certified Proofs and 4 certified Cameo Proofs. The finest specimen is a PF66. There are two PF65DC including Hansen’s new purchase. NGC POP report shows a total of 14 certified with the finest being three PF66UCs. Some of these could be duplicates. For this many certified specimens, the appearance at auctions are very low. None of the NGC PF66 has appeared in auction. The PCGS PF66 finest proof sold in a 1999 Heritage Auction that realized $30,475. The only other appearance is a PCGS PR66 that appeared in the 1996 Chicago RARCOA auction where it realized $275K! This seems unusual. I don’t know if both of these sales were the same PF66. Does anyone know the story on this $275K coin? Where is the specimen?
1866 Quarter Eagle PR65DC CAC Cert 21674013 PCGS POP 2/1
This quarter eagle is one of only two known PR65 DCAM specimens. This coin was sold in the Legend Rare Coins Regency 28 Auction on 9/27/2018. This is a very nice specimen. There is not much history on this coin. Legend described the coin as: LRCA is thrilled to have been consigned this exceedingly rare and marvelous GEM. The quality is VERY high end. Super deep mirrors beam intensely from all over. The mirrors are super clean, have strong clarity, and are super flashy. When you twirl the coin, the mirrors look like a freshly made sheet of glass with a slight "watery" roll. The contrast is stunning. Both sides have a beautiful moderate orange gold color. There are NO spots or discoloration. Miss Liberty and the details are needle sharp in strike and have thick frost. The details almost look 3-D! The eye appeal is awesome and then some! NO PR 65 has ever been sold via auction. The current Collector's Universe value is only $49,500-a number that seems too low. You will see we have much more respect for this date, grade, and coin in our estimate. We looked for comps-and found NONE. ALL these pre 1870 Proofs are exceedingly rare. If you buy better GEM gold or are building a world class gold proof set, this coin is a "must buy!" Be prepared for strong bidding here_.
This purchase set a new record for 1866 DCAM Proofs. Legend estimated the coin to sell for $55,000 - $65,000. The coin realized $79,312.50. This appears to be a nice premium for a CAC stickered coin. The record for this proof date is $275K for the PR66 as mentioned above.
Provenance: Legend Rare Coins
I am not sure how the Eliasberg Specimen would stack up to this coin. The Eliasberg registry set describes his specimen as assumed graded Gem Proof, Ex. Frossard (1901); Clapp Collection (1942). The Eliasberg coin was sold by Bowers & Ruddy Oct '82 price realized $7,700
Someone is doing a real bang up job putting together Mr Hansen's Jefferson nickel collection. Nearly half the coins pictured have weak strikes 17 out of 37 in the short set 1938 to 1964. A couple with carbon spots and the 1941-S and 1949-S don't even appear to have full steps. It took awhile accepting coins in MS65 and 66 holders with weak strikes but such coins are seen in the most coveted grades MS67 and MS68. So...now....all it takes to meet these lofty grades is a markfree, lustrous with color coins and few don't look lustrous either.
The sculptor in his design of the Jefferson nickel deliberately cut deep hairlines in Jefferson's mane and very detailed windows for the Monticello building but yet, the collector community doesn't hold high standards for the fully detailed strike on a coin and the top grading companies have only followed suit. It's not their fault!
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
@leothelyon said:
Someone is doing a real bang up job putting together Mr Hansen's Jefferson nickel collection. Nearly half the coins pictured have weak strikes 17 out of 37 in the short set 1938 to 1964. A couple with carbon spots and the 1941-S and 1949-S don't even appear to have full steps. It took awhile accepting coins in MS65 and 66 holders with weak strikes but such coins are seen in the most coveted grades MS67 and MS68. So...now....all it takes to meet these lofty grades is a markfree, lustrous with color coins and few don't look lustrous either.
The sculptor in his design of the Jefferson nickel deliberately cut deep hairlines in Jefferson's mane and very detailed windows for the Monticello building but yet, the collector community doesn't hold high standards for the fully detailed strike on a coin and the top grading companies have only followed suit. It's not their fault!
Leo
What I'm seeing is the TPGS's don't care too much about some series. Today coins with weak strikes are graded above 65. This and spots don't mater as much as they did in the past. A 2018 dated coin is "nothing" today and often treated that way. Twenty years down the road... Additionally, what I heard is for a Registry Set, the label counts more than the coin. Can anyone confirm that or disagree.
oh snap andy... I do not need to promote myself in any way or form... I'm trying to retire....that guy was rude to auction staffs (I have witnessed him making Stacks and Heritage people stay late on Saturdays and remember he was not a buyer) and he was a plain promoter. he could only get info from off dealers as all reputable ones were sick of his nonsense. if he had any insight you didn't know, I would think a lot less of you. This is MY opinion.
back to the man-Mr Delloy....One of THE craziest collectors!
@specialist said:
back to the man-Mr Delloy....One of THE craziest collectors!
Who is one of THE craziest dealers?
You may not be intending this but it comes across as if you are trying to promote your clients over Dell Loy (correct spelling), who you asked to be called one of the greatest collectors earlier in this thread.
zoins, Delloy and I hung out in LV. He even called himself the craziest collector after i badgered him about being one of the greatest collectors. No harm intended. He tolerates me.
Legend’s one word description is AMAZING. My one word description is STUNNING! For this specimen to be an amazing, stunning coin, the sale was not so easy. This 1900 Eagle Proof has been floating around on internet for some time. It has been marketed by Rare Coin Wholesalers on their website. The coin is still marketed by RCW on buycollectsell.com website for $115K. I guess they have not taken it down. RCW tried to sell it on EBay without any luck. Last week, it showed up in Legend’s Regency Auction 27. Legend placed an estimate of Estimate $90,000 - $100,000 for this coin. After all that, the lot was passed.
1900 Eagle PR66+DCAM CAC Cert 35487777 PCGS POP 4/3
The coins do not have a history or pedigree that I can find. Legend does not give any hints of the coin’s origin, but did describe the coin as: What an AMAZING coin. One look and you will instantly fall in love. Everything about this coin is SUPERB, and there is no doubt that this beauty is among the ABSOLUTELY FINEST known. It screams a lot about the quality that it is tied with the Bob Simpson coin for 3rd finest graded at PCGS. The fields are impeccably reflective, smooth, and virtually without flaw. The mirrors are intense, offering extremely clear and bold reflection that beams from all over. This coin catches your eye from across the room! It screams to you! The devices are fully struck and totally frosted, producing an ultra CAMEO look. As you rotate the coin in a light, the highly desired orange peal affect really pops on the fields adding to the SUPERB visual allure. This coin is ultra high end and its eye appeal quite seductive--it is a real challenge to stop staring! Only 120 Proofs were struck. Today, experts estimate about 50-60 examples survive in all grades, making this not only a date for a run of Proof $10 Libs, but also, if you are just collecting Proof Gold Type, 1900 is a great date to represent the type. PCGS has graded 3 in 66+ DCAM, none of which have EVER sold in auction. Indeed, the finest PCGS DCAM to sell in auction was a PR65 DCAM back in the 2010 FUN auction. In these lofty grades, the populations are very thin. You can essentially toss out your pricing guides and just go with your gut to figure a bid on this SUPERB GEM! This coin will certainly be a highlight in any collection!
Did I read this correctly? Legend is comparing this coin to Simpson’s! That is saying a great deal for this Eagle. Being the coin did not sell in a public auction, we know very little about how it was acquired and for what price. Is it possible that John and Laura got together and closed a deal for “One of the Craziest Collectors”? Or maybe the deal was made with RCW. We may never know. One final thought, I would love to watch John and Laura negotiate. I would pay to watch.
Provenance: Unknown
In comparing to Eliasberg’s specimen, his registry set describes his specimen as assumed graded Choice Proof, Ex. U.S. Mint; Clapp Collection (1942). The Eliasberg coin was sold by Bowers & Ruddy Oct '82 price realized $14,300.
Btw - I talked to Dell Loy a bit when we were getting our 1804$1s photographed together....he really doesn’t care if he ends up with the classic rarities...in any condition let alone the finest. He’ll only buy them if he feels he’s getting value from the purchase
I just want to say that this thread is fascinating to read, and thanks to the internets for making it possible.
First there are the lovely examples from Dell Loy's collection, which are so nice to see. And also there is insightful commentary from some of the players in this very deep pond. In particular it is fascinating to hear about auction strategies for very famous expensive coins from people actually bidding and winning on these things! My pond is much shallower and obscure, but e.g. insights from Perfection and TDN re chasing rare things for twenty years, can apply to me. Thanks for sharing!
@tradedollarnut said:
Btw - I talked to Dell Loy a bit when we were getting our 1804$1s photographed together....he really doesn’t care if he ends up with the classic rarities...in any condition let alone the finest. He’ll only buy them if he feels he’s getting value from the purchase
If I were in his shoes, I would say the same thing. Especially to the guy with the 1913 Nickel.
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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@tradedollarnut said:
Btw - I talked to Dell Loy a bit when we were getting our 1804$1s photographed together....he really doesn’t care if he ends up with the classic rarities...in any condition let alone the finest. He’ll only buy them if he feels he’s getting value from the purchase
I find what Dell Loy is doing completely rationale. He has gone for the most complete collection in the best condition that makes sense. There is a trade off when going for completeness. One trade off is having to compromise on certain classic rarities. Otherwise, each classic rarity could hold him up for an unfair price. Dell Loy could have been more private in his collection but then the trade off would have been the lost opportunity of thousands of coins finding him (instead of him finding them). I do not think there is a wrong or right answer about whether a collector rather focus on obtaining each classic rarity in the highest grade or obtain most classic rarities and also have a complete set of proof gold, the finest complete set of many different series, etc. Obvioulsy it would be great to do both but that may not be possible.
@specialist said:
Delloy and I hung out in LV. He even called himself the craziest collector after i badgered him about being one of the
greatest collectors. No harm intended. He tolerates me.
@specialist said:
Oh snap-he hugged ms in LV. I guess this week I am under his spell
@specialist said:
For all you who wonder, I hung w/Delloy in LV. He tolerates me..... We did agree on The Finest Craziest Collector
@specialist said:
Delloy has agreed to be call THE GREATEST CRAZIEST COLLECTOR EVER (JB will tell us if I heard wrong), or an aspiring collector.
Just wondering, did you hang out with Dell Loy in LV? And did you agree on a title for him?
@tradedollarnut said:
Btw - I talked to Dell Loy a bit when we were getting our 1804$1s photographed together....he really doesn’t care if he ends up with the classic rarities...in any condition let alone the finest. He’ll only buy them if he feels he’s getting value from the purchase
Count Down 3 – 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties
Only 3 left, but they are three very ultra-rare coins. As we sometime say, we may have reached the show stoppers. The unique 1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar is not available for sale, and may never be. The 1975 No S Roosevelt Dime is holding with only two known to exist. There has not been a discovery in more than 30 years. Only one has sold in auction in 2011 where it realized about $350K. The 1971-S SILVER TYPE 1 Reverse Eisenhower Dollar is almost exclusive, with only 3 known. Jaime Hernandez reports there is very little information about this coin. However, it might be a pattern as some experts believe this coin was struck as a presentation piece. There are two PR69DCAMs graded by PCGS. Neither has reported to have sold at auction. The 3rd known specimen, PR68 Ultra Cameo NGC, sold for $9,400 in a 2013 Heritage Auction.
Count Down 3 - 1968 10C No S, PR68CAM Cert 34814024 PCGS POP 7/2
This coin was sold in the Legend Rare Coins Regency 28 Auction on 9/27/2018. Legend described the coin as: Among the ABSOLUTE FINEST of this modern rarity. The 1968 NO S. Proof Dime is one of the RAREST modern mint issues. 1968 saw the first year of Proofs struck at the San Francisco mint, and a very limited, but unknown, number of Proof dimes made it into sets without the "S" mint mark. As expected for a recent proof, the surfaces are flawless; the mirrors deep, clearly reflective, and beaming. The frosted devices show a wonderful amount of CAMEO contrast. The last one to sell in auction realized $22,325 in April 2017; before that two coins sold for $30,550. The current PCGS value is $30,000 and this is a major rarity in the modern U.S. series, missing from most collections of Roosevelt dimes.
The auction record for this coin is $48,875 for a PCGS PR68 in a 2006 Heritage Auction. This coin realized $39,950, therefor does not come close to approaching the record. Legend estimated the coin to sell for $22,000 - $25,000. It appears once again they underestimated the price on a coin that Hansen was interested in purchasing. The coin does not have a history or pedigree listed.
1968 10C No S, PR68CAM Cert 34814024 PCGS POP 7/2
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Count Down 4 - 1998-S 1C Close AM, PR69DCAM Cert 35271741 PCGS POP 82/2
This is one of the last five coins that was needed to complete the 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties set. This coin does not show up as being recently sold in an auction. The purchase story for this coin is unknown. PCGS values the coin at $400, but they have been selling for less in recent auctions. There is not a picture available, so I provided a plate picture for a PR69DCAM from Coin Facts.
There are 3 remaining coins in 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties. In bold, there are two addition coins that are not presently required in the registery set. For a complete collection, I feel these issues are required. I do not believe the unique coin is “For Sale”, and may never be. To obtain this coin, may require a new discovery.
1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar (Unique Coin owned by Mitchell & Justin Spivack)
1975 No S Roosevelt Dime (Total of 2 Known, one PR66, and finest PR68 sold for $349,000) 1971-S SILVER TYPE 1 Reverse Eisenhower Dollar (PCGS POP 3, finest are two PR69DC)
Note: If you know of other coins that should be added, please let me know.
Currin: "One final thought, I would love to watch John and Laura negotiate. I would pay to watch."
JB and I really don't negotiate too much. When I deal w/him I want to make a deal-I don't go for every last cent. JB always pays fair. He is a nice guy. The STD deal took really very little to negotiate (ditto for the other deals I have sold them). I sell him a ton of coins. I also respect him and never go around him like others do.
Believe me, there are other people you never heard of you'd enjoy watching me negotiate with. Any time a crack out guy gets a +, OMG you'd think it was a 2 point upgrade....
@tradedollarnut said:
Btw - I talked to Dell Loy a bit when we were getting our 1804$1s photographed together....he really doesn’t care if he ends up with the classic rarities...in any condition let alone the finest. He’ll only buy them if he feels he’s getting value from the purchase
I think Hansen views this as a long term project and expects that the price for many ultra rarities will come down. We have already seen this some (chain cent, 1913 PF-66 Liberty Nickel, 1804 Dexter PF-65 Dollar), and I don't think even the tip top 1% will be completely immune from the pricing adjustments that have been widespread throughout this hobby.
At some point, the Hansen’s collection had two 1813 Capped Bust Half Eagles. Both specimens were MS64+ with a CAC sticker. The present Hansen coin is Cert 25345835 (see picture below). Like most of the coins in his collection, his present coin is not pedigreed to him. I am not sure why he sold the Pedigreed Cert 34590316. I don’t think they will tell us. From what I have seen, John and DLH do not say or make any negative comments about his previous coins or coins they pass on. I don’t think it is in their DNA.
The duplicate coin was first sold in a David Lawrence Rare Coins Auction in April 2018. The coin realized $64,875. https://www.davidlawrence.com/product/1451906/# The coin appears to presently be owned by Tangible Investments. It is offered on their website or their EBay Store.
It would be interesting to know how many of DLH duplicates have been sold. If I remember correctly, there were several of his pedigreed duplicates offered in auctions this past spring. This is unusual, because most of his extra specimens go into his duplicate sets. I have planned to discuss his duplicate sets in the 50K status update that should be coming soon. Stay tune.
Hansen’s 1813 Capped Bust Half Eagle, MS64+ with a CAC sticker
Count Down 2 – 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties
And then there were two! This is a Monster Coin. Thanks to Mitch for giving me a heads up on this coin. I would have missed it. I usually keep a watch on updates to Hansen’s master sets and the top 100 sets. I thought this coin is required in the Modern Top 100 set, but it is not. It is hard for me to believe this is not a Top 100 modern coin. It would be interesting if Mitch would let us know why.
With this upgrade, I think this place the Hansen’s collection alongside of some of the top modern proof collections. Without discussion, Mitch is still the king of modern coins. ErasmusHall’s HOF collection is still on top and will remain there. I don’t think anyone have a complete modern set with varieties per my list. DLH is two coins way from reaching that breakthrough. He may have gone as far as he can for now. The test of time may reveal if he can obtain these last two ultra-rare specimens.
1971-S $1 Type 1 Reverse Silver, PR69DCAM, Cert 81021831 POP 2/0
This coin was sold to Hansen by Justin Spivack, owner of Monster Coin. He recently retired his set: Justin's "Homemade" Ike Dollars With Major Varieties Collection - The Number One Finest Set of All Time. This set has all finest coins and at this time cannot improve more than it is today. The set can be tied for Finest, but cannot lose its number one spot. We do not know the terms of the deal, but presently PCGS prices the coin at $9,500. If I was to place a bet, I would place it on “over”.
Jaime Hernandez (PCGS Expert) describes the coin as: There is very little information about this coin. However, it might be a pattern as some experts believe this coin was struck as a presentation piece.
The only auction example is the NGC PR68 Ultra-Cameo specimen. That coin was auctioned by Heritage in June 2013. That specimen realized $9,400. The story for this coin was given this way: As reported by Charles Morgan and Hubert Walker in Coin Week on March 7, 2013, the Type One Silver 1971-S dollar appeared in the special packaging on eBay with a story (unverified) about how it was distributed at a presentation ceremony with President Nixon and the widowed Mrs. Eisenhower in attendance. Discoverer Andy Oskam found that the coin showed the so-called "Low Relief" or Type One reverse, which (compared to the more familiar Type Two) has more intricate detail on the eagle's breast feathers and clearly defined islands in the Caribbean Sea on the background Earth. This reverse is associated with the business strike silver-clad and copper-nickel-clad 1971-S Ike dollars as well as certain 1972 copper-nickel Ikes, but this is only the third certified example of a proof 1971-S silver-clad Eisenhower with the Type One reverse.
Provenance: Spivack
1971-S $1 Type 1 Reverse Silver, PR69DCAM - Monster Coin
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1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar (Unique Coin owned by Mitchell & Justin Spivack)
1975 No S Roosevelt Dime (Total of 2 Known, one PR66, and finest PR68 sold for $349,000)
Note: If you know of other coins that should be added, please let me know.
@Currin said: There are 2 remaining coins in 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties. In bold is the unique Eisenhower Dollar. This coin is not required for the registry proof sets. This coin is in a strong private collection, and may never be for sale. To obtain this coin, may require a new discovery. The other coin has only two known specimens at this time.
1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar (Unique Coin owned by Mitchell & Justin Spivack)
1975 No S Roosevelt Dime (Total of 2 Known, one PR66, and finest PR68 sold for $349,000)
Great accomplishment! It will be interesting to see if Dell Loy can get the last two coins.
Given that the unique coin is owned by @wondercoin and Dell Loy's acquisition approach to find reasonably priced coins, I'm guessing it won't be added any time soon
Here's some info and a quote from Mitchell regarding this coin:
@wondercoin / Mitchell Spivack (wondercoins.com) said:
the unique 1976 No S Ike Dollar is the most special coin in my coin collection and, I believe, the rarest and most special "modern" U.S. coin in existence. In fact, I believe it is one of only two or possibly three coins from all of the 20th century that are unique, non-error strikings of the U.S. Mint. The historical significance of this coin, honoring the 200th anniversary of the founding of our great country, is overwhelming. My son Justin (age 16) is a dedicated young coin collector who has collected coins since around the age of 5. He has asked that this coin be passed down to him as the single coin in my entire coin collection he can proudly own as an adult and I will certainly try to make that a reality.
This thread is great to learn about these rarities, whether they are in his collection or not.
I couldn't find a link to the "1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties" set list.
He's #4 on the "Modern Type Set, Proof (1950-present)" set with a rating of 71.78. The top 3 are tied for first place at 71.82.
question---Hansen has his overall collection but has dozens and dozens of speciality and series registered sets. Which specialty or individual series collection he has registered is the most impressive?
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question---Hansen has his overall collection but has dozens and dozens of speciality and series registered sets. Which specialty or individual series collection he has registered is the most impressive?
Not sure if this helps, but he has 8 sets in the 2018 PCGS Registry Awards list:
@Gazes said:
question---Hansen has his overall collection but has dozens and dozens of speciality and series registered sets. Which specialty or individual series collection he has registered is the most impressive?
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I disagree. I think Reynolds is/was a great numismatic writer and has plenty of support in the industry.
Why are you now reporting on his NEWPs?
I like @Analyst's articles and reporting. I like his auction reports because they are timely, about notable coins, and have interview quotes from dealers and collectors. The latter is otherwise near impossible to get. If he has no cred, why would they talk to him and let him quote them for his articles? I also like it that he has articles for beginning collectors and people getting into a new series as well.
If anything, I think we need more writers like him in our hobby.
I'm curious why this is included. I thought this is considered a fantasy pattern which has been cataloged as Judd-540:
http://uspatterns.stores.yahoo.net/j540p605.html
This is a great story. Love hearing about how this collection is being built!
Legend Regency Double Feature
Hansen picked up two of Laura’s beautiful little ladies from the Regency Auction 28 this week. The two half dimes are replacements in the early proof collection. One of the coins is a PCGS POP 1/0 and the other is an exceptional Pop 2/1.
The coins do not have a history listed by Legend. Only a brief hint is given in one of the coins description: This coin has never sold in auction before. It is fresh to the market. Both specimens have lovely toning and are CAC labeled. They replaced coins in Hansen’s collection there were of high grade and Condition Census coins. This is a good example of not only are low and mid-grade coins are being upgraded, but also very nice specimens are being replaced when better coins become available.
1849 Half Dime PR66 CAC Cert 35147640 PCGS POP 1/0 – Replaces 1849 PCGS PR65 POP 1/1
This is the Finest 1849 that have been encapsulated by PCGS. The mintage for this proof is published to be 15. Coin Facts places the survival to be 10. There are only three coins certified by PCGS, and they are a single PR64, PR65, and PR66. The Hansen collection presently has the PR65 and PR66 specimens. I will not claim the PR66 to be the finest. There are three 1849 Half Dimes certified NGC, with one of them being a PF66 CA. This would be the Kaufman-Eliasberg specimen. The NGC PF66 is the only 1849 that has been certified as Cameo. I think the argument could be made that the NGC is the finest of all specimens.
Legend described the coin as: This example is among the FINEST known, with just the Eliasberg coin graded NGC PR66 CAM sitting with this GEM at the top of known specimens. The mirrors are highly reflective and beam from under the magnificent, rich blue toning. The eye appeal is exceptional in every way. The watery fields are devoid of any post minting distractions; the only thing we can find on this coin is a lint mark from die polishing at 12:00 on the obverse. The devices are very sharply struck up and the eye appeal of this beautiful coin cannot be beat by any of the other survivors. The mintage was a paltry 10-15 and the number that survive is miniscule. As one of the FINEST, this coin belongs in a world class cabinet. The Pittman coin set a record for the issue, as a "raw" GEM PROOF in October 1997, when it sold for $38,500. The Eliasberg coin, when it sold as part of the Kaufman Collection in 2008 realized $48,875. This SUPERB GEM is a real prize for the advanced collector and we can see a record being shattered when this one crosses the block. This is a VERY RARE opportunity!
This purchase did set a new record for this proof half dime. Legend estimated the coin to sell for $45,000 - $50,000. When the dust settled, the coin realized $52,875.
Provenance: Legend Rare Coins
1849 Half Dime PCGS PR66 CAC - A SUPERB example of this VERY RARE Proof Half dime (LRCA)
Kaufman-Eliasberg specimen PR66CA Specimen
1866 Half Dime PR67 CAM CAC Cert 35588497 PCGS POP 2/1– Replaces 1849 PCGS PR67 POP 2/3
The 1866 Proof half Dime is not as rare as her 1849 sister. But she is special in her own way. This is not the finest specimen certified by PCGS, but still (in Legend words) stunning. They describe as Stunning SUPERB GEM! This coin is tied for second FINEST KNOWN 1866 (behind a PR67 DCAM). The mintage for this proof is published to be a whopping 725. Coin Facts places the survival to be 550. So as early proofs go, this is not a rarity. The coin that Hansen replaced was PR67. I will include the picture of the coin being replaced for you to compare.
Legend described the coin as: Outstanding mirrors seem like those you would find on a proof Morgan, not a small Half Dime; they are super deep and beam boldly from all over, offering crystal clear reflection. A vibrant mix of original champagne/gold/pale reddish gold/blue colors swirl all over. Miss Liberty and every detail are so fully struck and are covered with such a thick frost they look like they were sculpted from a block of frosted ice. The eye appeal is powerful! This coin has never sold in auction before. It is fresh to the market. There is a Collectors Universe Value of $11,000. The other PCGS/CAC example realized $11,163 in our January 2018 Regency Auction. If you are building the ultimate GEM Proof Half Dime set, or just love Top Pop rarities, this coin is for you!
Legend estimated the coin to sell for $7,250 - $8,000. The coin realized $ 8,518.75. The Auction record is $19,975 for a PCGS PR67DC that sold in 2015 by Heritage Auctions. This is a blast white specimen. Hansen’s specimen is toned. I have included all specimens for you to compare. Do you like the blast white better?
Provenance: Legend Rare Coins
Hansen’s 1866 Half Dime PCGS PR67 CAM CAC - Superb Gem
Hansen’s Duplicate 1866 Half Dime PCGS PR67
Finest Known 1866 Half Dime PR67 DC – Blast White
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Finest Known 1866 Half Dime PR67 DC – Blast White
Wow, that looks like a pattern in that condition!
The 1849 PR-66 (V-8) is the Pittman coin:
PR-66 2017 NGC 3319303-001 Pittman
PR-66 2015-8 Heritage $19,388 NGC 4203001-001 Pittman
PR-65 1997-9 Akers $38,500 Pittman
This is hinted at in the description, and it's straightforward to match the image to the 2015-8 Heritage photos.
I list 5 different 1849 V-8 proof half dimes in my census based on auction records from the past 20 years (especially the census in the Kaufman sale).
As you mentioned, this one is #2 since the Eliasberg is cameo.
https://web.stanford.edu/~clint/hdag/1849_half_dime_guide.pdf
Absolutely stunning Pr half dimes. WOW!
Later, Paul.
Zions... this is one of those coins that can go in several sets. Yes, in many cases it is considered a pattern. PCGS have a number for both a US regular issue and pattern issue. The PCGS number for the US regular issue is 7009. I don’t remember the pattern number, but there is one. The coin is listed as a required coin in the U.S. Coins Complete Set with Major Varieties, Proof (1801-1964).
There were some discussions on including this coin back on pages 3 - 4 on this forum. The reason for including was discussed then. Hint; It has to do with the Eliasberg Set. If you did not follow the thread from the begainning, then you have missed a great deal. When you get time, I am sure it would be interesting the read from the begainning... thanks for the question.
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Stellas are patterns. So are 1856 flying eagle cents
It’s a great coin and seems to have a reason for being in the set, but is still different from those. There are different types of patterns. Ones designed to test coinage designs and pieces de caprice fantasy coins made for private collectors.
New Gold Quarter Eagle Addition
This coin is a new addition to the collection. This is the first 1866 Gold Proof that Hansen has acquired. The 1866 silver proofs are fairly common, but the gold proofs are a different story. The mintage for this proof is published to be 30. PCGS places the survival to be 20 to 22 Known. The PCGS POP reports 4 certified Proofs and 4 certified Cameo Proofs. The finest specimen is a PF66. There are two PF65DC including Hansen’s new purchase. NGC POP report shows a total of 14 certified with the finest being three PF66UCs. Some of these could be duplicates. For this many certified specimens, the appearance at auctions are very low. None of the NGC PF66 has appeared in auction. The PCGS PF66 finest proof sold in a 1999 Heritage Auction that realized $30,475. The only other appearance is a PCGS PR66 that appeared in the 1996 Chicago RARCOA auction where it realized $275K! This seems unusual. I don’t know if both of these sales were the same PF66. Does anyone know the story on this $275K coin? Where is the specimen?
1866 Quarter Eagle PR65DC CAC Cert 21674013 PCGS POP 2/1
This quarter eagle is one of only two known PR65 DCAM specimens. This coin was sold in the Legend Rare Coins Regency 28 Auction on 9/27/2018. This is a very nice specimen. There is not much history on this coin. Legend described the coin as: LRCA is thrilled to have been consigned this exceedingly rare and marvelous GEM. The quality is VERY high end. Super deep mirrors beam intensely from all over. The mirrors are super clean, have strong clarity, and are super flashy. When you twirl the coin, the mirrors look like a freshly made sheet of glass with a slight "watery" roll. The contrast is stunning. Both sides have a beautiful moderate orange gold color. There are NO spots or discoloration. Miss Liberty and the details are needle sharp in strike and have thick frost. The details almost look 3-D! The eye appeal is awesome and then some! NO PR 65 has ever been sold via auction. The current Collector's Universe value is only $49,500-a number that seems too low. You will see we have much more respect for this date, grade, and coin in our estimate. We looked for comps-and found NONE. ALL these pre 1870 Proofs are exceedingly rare. If you buy better GEM gold or are building a world class gold proof set, this coin is a "must buy!" Be prepared for strong bidding here_.
This purchase set a new record for 1866 DCAM Proofs. Legend estimated the coin to sell for $55,000 - $65,000. The coin realized $79,312.50. This appears to be a nice premium for a CAC stickered coin. The record for this proof date is $275K for the PR66 as mentioned above.
Provenance: Legend Rare Coins
I am not sure how the Eliasberg Specimen would stack up to this coin. The Eliasberg registry set describes his specimen as assumed graded Gem Proof, Ex. Frossard (1901); Clapp Collection (1942). The Eliasberg coin was sold by Bowers & Ruddy Oct '82 price realized $7,700
1866 Quarter Eagle PR65DC CAC – Tied for finest PCGS DCAM Proof
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That’s stunning
Oh snap-he hugged ms in LV. I guess this week I am under his spell
That 1866 quarter eagle is beautiful!
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Someone is doing a real bang up job putting together Mr Hansen's Jefferson nickel collection. Nearly half the coins pictured have weak strikes 17 out of 37 in the short set 1938 to 1964. A couple with carbon spots and the 1941-S and 1949-S don't even appear to have full steps. It took awhile accepting coins in MS65 and 66 holders with weak strikes but such coins are seen in the most coveted grades MS67 and MS68. So...now....all it takes to meet these lofty grades is a markfree, lustrous with color coins and few don't look lustrous either.
The sculptor in his design of the Jefferson nickel deliberately cut deep hairlines in Jefferson's mane and very detailed windows for the Monticello building but yet, the collector community doesn't hold high standards for the fully detailed strike on a coin and the top grading companies have only followed suit. It's not their fault!
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
What I'm seeing is the TPGS's don't care too much about some series. Today coins with weak strikes are graded above 65. This and spots don't mater as much as they did in the past. A 2018 dated coin is "nothing" today and often treated that way. Twenty years down the road...
Additionally, what I heard is for a Registry Set, the label counts more than the coin. Can anyone confirm that or disagree.
That '64-S looks like a pocket piece
FWIW, I would miss you if all of the self-promoters were forced to hide!
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oh snap andy... I do not need to promote myself in any way or form... I'm trying to retire....that guy was rude to auction staffs (I have witnessed him making Stacks and Heritage people stay late on Saturdays and remember he was not a buyer) and he was a plain promoter. he could only get info from off dealers as all reputable ones were sick of his nonsense. if he had any insight you didn't know, I would think a lot less of you. This is MY opinion.
back to the man-Mr Delloy....One of THE craziest collectors!
Who is one of THE craziest dealers?
You may not be intending this but it comes across as if you are trying to promote your clients over Dell Loy (correct spelling), who you asked to be called one of the greatest collectors earlier in this thread.
Maybe this is his first coin in a low ball set.
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If I told you how many times I’ve sat in a bar and had someone tell me they’re trying to quit drinking, you would think I’m an alcoholic.
Edited to say OK, I made that up. But still...
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zoins, Delloy and I hung out in LV. He even called himself the craziest collector after i badgered him about being one of the greatest collectors. No harm intended. He tolerates me.
STUNNING!
Legend’s one word description is AMAZING. My one word description is STUNNING! For this specimen to be an amazing, stunning coin, the sale was not so easy. This 1900 Eagle Proof has been floating around on internet for some time. It has been marketed by Rare Coin Wholesalers on their website. The coin is still marketed by RCW on buycollectsell.com website for $115K. I guess they have not taken it down. RCW tried to sell it on EBay without any luck. Last week, it showed up in Legend’s Regency Auction 27. Legend placed an estimate of Estimate $90,000 - $100,000 for this coin. After all that, the lot was passed.
1900 Eagle PR66+DCAM CAC Cert 35487777 PCGS POP 4/3
The coins do not have a history or pedigree that I can find. Legend does not give any hints of the coin’s origin, but did describe the coin as: What an AMAZING coin. One look and you will instantly fall in love. Everything about this coin is SUPERB, and there is no doubt that this beauty is among the ABSOLUTELY FINEST known. It screams a lot about the quality that it is tied with the Bob Simpson coin for 3rd finest graded at PCGS. The fields are impeccably reflective, smooth, and virtually without flaw. The mirrors are intense, offering extremely clear and bold reflection that beams from all over. This coin catches your eye from across the room! It screams to you! The devices are fully struck and totally frosted, producing an ultra CAMEO look. As you rotate the coin in a light, the highly desired orange peal affect really pops on the fields adding to the SUPERB visual allure. This coin is ultra high end and its eye appeal quite seductive--it is a real challenge to stop staring! Only 120 Proofs were struck. Today, experts estimate about 50-60 examples survive in all grades, making this not only a date for a run of Proof $10 Libs, but also, if you are just collecting Proof Gold Type, 1900 is a great date to represent the type. PCGS has graded 3 in 66+ DCAM, none of which have EVER sold in auction. Indeed, the finest PCGS DCAM to sell in auction was a PR65 DCAM back in the 2010 FUN auction. In these lofty grades, the populations are very thin. You can essentially toss out your pricing guides and just go with your gut to figure a bid on this SUPERB GEM! This coin will certainly be a highlight in any collection!
Did I read this correctly? Legend is comparing this coin to Simpson’s! That is saying a great deal for this Eagle. Being the coin did not sell in a public auction, we know very little about how it was acquired and for what price. Is it possible that John and Laura got together and closed a deal for “One of the Craziest Collectors”? Or maybe the deal was made with RCW. We may never know. One final thought, I would love to watch John and Laura negotiate. I would pay to watch.
Provenance: Unknown
In comparing to Eliasberg’s specimen, his registry set describes his specimen as assumed graded Choice Proof, Ex. U.S. Mint; Clapp Collection (1942). The Eliasberg coin was sold by Bowers & Ruddy Oct '82 price realized $14,300.
1900 Eagle PR66+DCAM CAC – STUNNING! (Shades required)
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Btw - I talked to Dell Loy a bit when we were getting our 1804$1s photographed together....he really doesn’t care if he ends up with the classic rarities...in any condition let alone the finest. He’ll only buy them if he feels he’s getting value from the purchase
That 1900 eagle is amazing!
I just want to say that this thread is fascinating to read, and thanks to the internets for making it possible.
First there are the lovely examples from Dell Loy's collection, which are so nice to see. And also there is insightful commentary from some of the players in this very deep pond. In particular it is fascinating to hear about auction strategies for very famous expensive coins from people actually bidding and winning on these things! My pond is much shallower and obscure, but e.g. insights from Perfection and TDN re chasing rare things for twenty years, can apply to me. Thanks for sharing!
If I were in his shoes, I would say the same thing. Especially to the guy with the 1913 Nickel.
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Funny, but I don't see the play. If he wanted that nickel, he'd have bought it.
I find what Dell Loy is doing completely rationale. He has gone for the most complete collection in the best condition that makes sense. There is a trade off when going for completeness. One trade off is having to compromise on certain classic rarities. Otherwise, each classic rarity could hold him up for an unfair price. Dell Loy could have been more private in his collection but then the trade off would have been the lost opportunity of thousands of coins finding him (instead of him finding them). I do not think there is a wrong or right answer about whether a collector rather focus on obtaining each classic rarity in the highest grade or obtain most classic rarities and also have a complete set of proof gold, the finest complete set of many different series, etc. Obvioulsy it would be great to do both but that may not be possible.
Just wondering, did you hang out with Dell Loy in LV? And did you agree on a title for him?
dont understand why he would do that.
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Count Down 3 – 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties
Only 3 left, but they are three very ultra-rare coins. As we sometime say, we may have reached the show stoppers. The unique 1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar is not available for sale, and may never be. The 1975 No S Roosevelt Dime is holding with only two known to exist. There has not been a discovery in more than 30 years. Only one has sold in auction in 2011 where it realized about $350K. The 1971-S SILVER TYPE 1 Reverse Eisenhower Dollar is almost exclusive, with only 3 known. Jaime Hernandez reports there is very little information about this coin. However, it might be a pattern as some experts believe this coin was struck as a presentation piece. There are two PR69DCAMs graded by PCGS. Neither has reported to have sold at auction. The 3rd known specimen, PR68 Ultra Cameo NGC, sold for $9,400 in a 2013 Heritage Auction.
Count Down 3 - 1968 10C No S, PR68CAM Cert 34814024 PCGS POP 7/2
This coin was sold in the Legend Rare Coins Regency 28 Auction on 9/27/2018. Legend described the coin as: Among the ABSOLUTE FINEST of this modern rarity. The 1968 NO S. Proof Dime is one of the RAREST modern mint issues. 1968 saw the first year of Proofs struck at the San Francisco mint, and a very limited, but unknown, number of Proof dimes made it into sets without the "S" mint mark. As expected for a recent proof, the surfaces are flawless; the mirrors deep, clearly reflective, and beaming. The frosted devices show a wonderful amount of CAMEO contrast. The last one to sell in auction realized $22,325 in April 2017; before that two coins sold for $30,550. The current PCGS value is $30,000 and this is a major rarity in the modern U.S. series, missing from most collections of Roosevelt dimes.
The auction record for this coin is $48,875 for a PCGS PR68 in a 2006 Heritage Auction. This coin realized $39,950, therefor does not come close to approaching the record. Legend estimated the coin to sell for $22,000 - $25,000. It appears once again they underestimated the price on a coin that Hansen was interested in purchasing. The coin does not have a history or pedigree listed.
1968 10C No S, PR68CAM Cert 34814024 PCGS POP 7/2
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Count Down 4 - 1998-S 1C Close AM, PR69DCAM Cert 35271741 PCGS POP 82/2
This is one of the last five coins that was needed to complete the 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties set. This coin does not show up as being recently sold in an auction. The purchase story for this coin is unknown. PCGS values the coin at $400, but they have been selling for less in recent auctions. There is not a picture available, so I provided a plate picture for a PR69DCAM from Coin Facts.
There are 3 remaining coins in 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties. In bold, there are two addition coins that are not presently required in the registery set. For a complete collection, I feel these issues are required. I do not believe the unique coin is “For Sale”, and may never be. To obtain this coin, may require a new discovery.
1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar (Unique Coin owned by Mitchell & Justin Spivack)
1975 No S Roosevelt Dime (Total of 2 Known, one PR66, and finest PR68 sold for $349,000)
1971-S SILVER TYPE 1 Reverse Eisenhower Dollar (PCGS POP 3, finest are two PR69DC)
Note: If you know of other coins that should be added, please let me know.
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Currin: "One final thought, I would love to watch John and Laura negotiate. I would pay to watch."
JB and I really don't negotiate too much. When I deal w/him I want to make a deal-I don't go for every last cent. JB always pays fair. He is a nice guy. The STD deal took really very little to negotiate (ditto for the other deals I have sold them). I sell him a ton of coins. I also respect him and never go around him like others do.
Believe me, there are other people you never heard of you'd enjoy watching me negotiate with. Any time a crack out guy gets a +, OMG you'd think it was a 2 point upgrade....
Currin. Justin (Monstercoinmart) just sold this coin in PCGS-PR69DCAM:
1971-S SILVER TYPE 1 Reverse Eisenhower Dollar
Hansen recently added it to his registry sets.
Draw your own conclusions.
Wondercoin.
I think Hansen views this as a long term project and expects that the price for many ultra rarities will come down. We have already seen this some (chain cent, 1913 PF-66 Liberty Nickel, 1804 Dexter PF-65 Dollar), and I don't think even the tip top 1% will be completely immune from the pricing adjustments that have been widespread throughout this hobby.
After watching him spend a bazillion dollars and reach 99% completion in 2 or 3 years, I tend to think otherwise. But I've been wrong before.
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I can see long term in that he will be constantly upgrading examples
At some point, the Hansen’s collection had two 1813 Capped Bust Half Eagles. Both specimens were MS64+ with a CAC sticker. The present Hansen coin is Cert 25345835 (see picture below). Like most of the coins in his collection, his present coin is not pedigreed to him. I am not sure why he sold the Pedigreed Cert 34590316. I don’t think they will tell us. From what I have seen, John and DLH do not say or make any negative comments about his previous coins or coins they pass on. I don’t think it is in their DNA.
The duplicate coin was first sold in a David Lawrence Rare Coins Auction in April 2018. The coin realized $64,875. https://www.davidlawrence.com/product/1451906/# The coin appears to presently be owned by Tangible Investments. It is offered on their website or their EBay Store.
It would be interesting to know how many of DLH duplicates have been sold. If I remember correctly, there were several of his pedigreed duplicates offered in auctions this past spring. This is unusual, because most of his extra specimens go into his duplicate sets. I have planned to discuss his duplicate sets in the 50K status update that should be coming soon. Stay tune.
Hansen’s 1813 Capped Bust Half Eagle, MS64+ with a CAC sticker
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Count Down 2 – 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties
And then there were two! This is a Monster Coin. Thanks to Mitch for giving me a heads up on this coin. I would have missed it. I usually keep a watch on updates to Hansen’s master sets and the top 100 sets. I thought this coin is required in the Modern Top 100 set, but it is not. It is hard for me to believe this is not a Top 100 modern coin. It would be interesting if Mitch would let us know why.
With this upgrade, I think this place the Hansen’s collection alongside of some of the top modern proof collections. Without discussion, Mitch is still the king of modern coins. ErasmusHall’s HOF collection is still on top and will remain there. I don’t think anyone have a complete modern set with varieties per my list. DLH is two coins way from reaching that breakthrough. He may have gone as far as he can for now. The test of time may reveal if he can obtain these last two ultra-rare specimens.
1971-S $1 Type 1 Reverse Silver, PR69DCAM, Cert 81021831 POP 2/0
This coin was sold to Hansen by Justin Spivack, owner of Monster Coin. He recently retired his set: Justin's "Homemade" Ike Dollars With Major Varieties Collection - The Number One Finest Set of All Time. This set has all finest coins and at this time cannot improve more than it is today. The set can be tied for Finest, but cannot lose its number one spot. We do not know the terms of the deal, but presently PCGS prices the coin at $9,500. If I was to place a bet, I would place it on “over”.
Jaime Hernandez (PCGS Expert) describes the coin as: There is very little information about this coin. However, it might be a pattern as some experts believe this coin was struck as a presentation piece.
The only auction example is the NGC PR68 Ultra-Cameo specimen. That coin was auctioned by Heritage in June 2013. That specimen realized $9,400. The story for this coin was given this way: As reported by Charles Morgan and Hubert Walker in Coin Week on March 7, 2013, the Type One Silver 1971-S dollar appeared in the special packaging on eBay with a story (unverified) about how it was distributed at a presentation ceremony with President Nixon and the widowed Mrs. Eisenhower in attendance. Discoverer Andy Oskam found that the coin showed the so-called "Low Relief" or Type One reverse, which (compared to the more familiar Type Two) has more intricate detail on the eagle's breast feathers and clearly defined islands in the Caribbean Sea on the background Earth. This reverse is associated with the business strike silver-clad and copper-nickel-clad 1971-S Ike dollars as well as certain 1972 copper-nickel Ikes, but this is only the third certified example of a proof 1971-S silver-clad Eisenhower with the Type One reverse.
Provenance: Spivack
1971-S $1 Type 1 Reverse Silver, PR69DCAM - Monster Coin
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There are 2 remaining coins in 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties. In bold is the unique Eisenhower Dollar. This coin is not required for the registry proof sets. This coin is in a strong private collection, and may never be for sale. To obtain this coin, may require a new discovery. The other coin has only two known specimens at this time.
1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar (Unique Coin owned by Mitchell & Justin Spivack)
1975 No S Roosevelt Dime (Total of 2 Known, one PR66, and finest PR68 sold for $349,000)
Note: If you know of other coins that should be added, please let me know.
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Dry Period. I did not see anything that stood out this week. Anyone have anything to add, please feel free.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
I am mad again at Delloy. I just flew over Provo Utah and waved. he did not wave back! At least Donny and Marie did!!
Great accomplishment! It will be interesting to see if Dell Loy can get the last two coins.
Given that the unique coin is owned by @wondercoin and Dell Loy's acquisition approach to find reasonably priced coins, I'm guessing it won't be added any time soon
Here's some info and a quote from Mitchell regarding this coin:
https://www.pcgs.com/top100/coin4.aspx
This thread is great to learn about these rarities, whether they are in his collection or not.
I couldn't find a link to the "1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties" set list.
He's #4 on the "Modern Type Set, Proof (1950-present)" set with a rating of 71.78. The top 3 are tied for first place at 71.82.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/modern-type-set-proof-1950-present/194
question---Hansen has his overall collection but has dozens and dozens of speciality and series registered sets. Which specialty or individual series collection he has registered is the most impressive?
Not sure if this helps, but he has 8 sets in the 2018 PCGS Registry Awards list:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1004851/the-most-1-registry-sets-a-new-way-to-compete
The seated dollars, of course!
The Liberty double eagle set is extremely impressive and all time finest...
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/20-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-20-gold-major-varieties-circulation-strikes-1850-1907/alltimeset/147790
that is one of the sets that stood out to me