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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does this mean the coin is off the market for private ownership? Just wondering…

    No, it sold in the 1979 Garrett sale

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    will this thread ever end?????

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s not designed to...

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its gives me a headache with so many untruths by people.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2018 5:36PM

    @specialist said:
    Its gives me a headache with so many untruths by people.

    Remember, it's "the internet", with no editor weeding out the comments that are in error.
    We appreciate your desire for things to be correct!
    This thread is a lot better than most, with regular, pretty carefully researched posts.

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There have been a hand full of upgrades and additions made in several sets. Although, I did not see anything that stood out in the last few days. John and Del must have caught up on the good stuff. Anyone have anything to add, please feel free.

    Last couple days I have been looking at the POPs and availability of early $5 proofs. Most dates are impossible. This may be something to discuss in future postings.

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    What coins should DLH purchase in the next two days of Auctions?

    Any ideas!

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 26, 2018 3:28PM

    How about the MS-67+ FBL CAC Franklin 50c bid at 100K?

  • AblinkyAblinky Posts: 626 ✭✭✭

    @Perfection said:
    What coins should DLH purchase in the next two days of Auctions?

    Any ideas!

    He needs the Bust half mega rarity in the 1817/4, maybe he'll go for it considering the finest AU example is in very strong hands.

    Andrew Blinkiewicz-Heritage

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    will this thread ever end?????

    Just do another Hot Topics article. The party will move to a new thread.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    It’s your auction and you are reading this blog!
    Any bids from DLH you care to reveal?

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    How about the MS-67+ FBL CAC Franklin 50c bid at 100K?

    Can someone share some light on this coin? Legend estimated to realize $15,000.00 - $17,500.00. I know it has a sticker, but what else am I missing? Did Legend under estimated this coin?

    https://legendauctions.hibid.com/lot/43537837/50c-1958-pcgs-ms67--fbl-cac/?q=&ref=watch-list

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    It’s amazing. Top,three sales of all time. 82k 65k. 44k. I think

  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    I,was at 25k all in!

  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it is lot 172, it is bid at $110k right now

    Doug
  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    Yes but that if you take all five of them

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lot #172 is the lot to watch. So, did Legend way underestimate the toning premium????

  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    She’s not a specialist on Franklin’s?

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    So what would it have been worth as a 66+, maybe $1,000?
    Cert# is no longer valid, but the image is still listed.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 26, 2018 7:38PM

    Top pop + monster color is a great combo. Here's the current TrueView at MS67+ FBL CAC.

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 26, 2018 7:43PM

    Congratulations to the successful bidder for the 1958 PR67+ Franklin. The highest auction result for a 67 FB was $3643 and this coin sells for $110,000 plus juice. So was the toning premium of $118,000 a record toning premium? And what about the underbidder.........pretty sure RickO was not in on this one. LOL

    But DLH has an excellent set of PR IHC's that are toned.

    OINK

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 26, 2018 7:52PM

    17.50% BP so $129,250.00.

    Who said the coin market isn't strong?

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Every one was stunned. BUT this WAS the FINEST toner any one had ever seen.

    Our estimate--was off. oops.

    Delloy has agreed to be call THE GREATEST CRAZIEST COLLECTOR EVER (JB will tell us if I heard wrong), or an aspiring collector. He knows how I feel about him being called the THE greatest collector ever.

    Delloy did roll in for our special party but could not stay. He bid from his plane

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    Delloy has agreed to be call THE GREATEST CRAZIEST COLLECTOR EVER (JB will tell us if I heard wrong), or an aspiring collector. He knows how I feel about him being called the THE greatest collector ever.

    Did he have a problem being called THE greatest collector ever? ;)

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 27, 2018 1:44AM

    .

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 27, 2018 2:20PM

    Who wrote the auction catalogue for the 1958? Let's be brutally honest. Everything about the coin's color and eye appeal in the catalogue is in the ballpark. No disagreement here. As for needing magnification....

    Take away the color of this coin and there are at least a half dozen large bagmarks and a scrape on the bust. A textbook low end MS-66 with a bump (the +) for color. I guess that was its original grade at one time.

    As for FBL...it is very fortunate that PCGS decided to change the requirement of a FBL from both bands to only the bottom set. Unfortunately, if that were not the requirement of today, the hit across the upper bands would disqualify this coin for the FBL designation.

    Note that both the winner, underbidder, and all the bids over $4K have disproved my assessment of the coin.

  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did Hansen buy the 1858 Franklin?

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does Mr. Hansen and his representative ever purchase raw coins, and after the purchase submit them for grading?

    Or are only slab

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Or are only slabbed coins purchased?

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Does Mr. Hansen and his representative ever purchase raw coins, and after the purchase submit them for grading?

    Or are only slab

    DLRC buys raw coins, sure. We don't buy coins to pursue cracking them out for upgrades though.

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Small fish swimming by here, I’m doing my own Hansen watch. Viva Variety. He has been catching up. Photographic evidence for Aspie Rocco posterity, I was once leading “The Hansen”

    Seriously though, Cool thread folks, amazing information and coin art.

  • earlycoinsearlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭

    The gentleman has impeccable taste.

  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @earlycoins said:
    The gentleman has impeccable taste.

    "I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best." - Oscar Wilde

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For all you who wonder, I hung w/Delloy in LV. He tolerates me.....

    We did agree on The Finest Craziest Collector.....(JB can tell you).

  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice post on the 1864-S. I wouldn't put much importance on the $6000 pcgs price guide. The coin is so rare that it rarely trades and there is almost no auction data for lower graded coins. I think the $6000 for a G-4 is way too low and Doug's price represents a fair value for such a coin. The pcgs guide price looked pretty random

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the little black arrow imbedded in the middle arrowhead?

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I ran thru the first several pages and have not seen a post
    from @Analyst Greg Roberts. I thought a thread like
    this would bring out some comments from him.

  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    I ran thru the first several pages and have not seen a post
    from @Analyst Greg Roberts. I thought a thread like
    this would bring out some comments from him.

    You mean Greg Reynolds? :smile:

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes . I'm sorry. I did mean Greg Reynolds.

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reynolds is nothing more then a self promoter. I think and hope he was forced to hide. He has NO cred among any major respected dealers.

    Now please, back to Delloy! I can tell you, he will have several NEWPS to post shortly.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:
    What is the little black arrow imbedded in the middle arrowhead?

    Interesting. Was it mentioned in the auction as it is definitely a punch mark., Possibly an ID mark made by a previous owner? Never saw a "chop" as this one.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    I ran thru the first several pages and have not seen a post
    from @Analyst Greg Roberts. I thought a thread like
    this would bring out some comments from him.

    He was last here on July 11, 2018. I hope everything is ok.

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