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  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    They will need multiple bidders who are willing to pay. Look at the Dollar that John and Keven bought cheap and sold to
    Bruce. Good deal for all. You never know. I do know though that if wanted a 1913, it would be this one.
    From what I have read the others are all over graded and not CAC. I will take the under 4.5M all in. But I have to know if there is a reserve.

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Perfection said:

    But I have to know if there is a reserve.

    Why? Just asking

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reserve is reasonable

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    Dang JB, you torturing me now? I thought we were buds?

    Yes, our 01S will be there-its part of the RDS 25C display. I'm not in competition as everyone has their own tastes

    Sorry, Laura! Just having some fun. I think having a competition between the best 1901-S Quarters could be fun! It might get more votes than an ANA election. Now, if we could get PCGS to just consider the winner for an upgrade it would be better!

    Hey JB, isn't it neat when people know what your buying-even if they are wrong? You only have like 5000 lots too choose from and a bourse floor.

    Yes, exactly...but it's fun to mess around with them sometimes too...the best part is sitting beside you in the auction room for the entertainment though!

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Perfection said:

    He should be patient. If he has to have them I would consider NOT bidding and trying to buy them from the winner.

    That could actually wind up being much cheaper due to DLH not pushing the price up.

    The problem with this is that in today's bidding world, it's far harder to know who the winning bidder is!
    And, you have to know they are going to win and are willing to sell it...it's a good concept that could work on some coins (like an 1804 $1), but the players have to be very limited to do so.

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dare you and DH to start buying big girl patterns.. come in to my world and see how far you get! :o

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    I dare you and DH to start buying big girl patterns.. come in to my world and see how far you get! :o

    Please, no! I don't want to have to re-read the pattern book!!!

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:

    @specialist said:
    I dare you and DH to start buying big girl patterns.. come in to my world and see how far you get! :o

    Please, no! I don't want to have to re-read the pattern book!!!

    Not really. Just put Bobby in charge.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    I feel like I'm reading an email exchange.

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 24, 2018 7:11PM

    @specialist said:
    I dare you and DH to start buying big girl patterns.. come in to my world and see how far you get! :o

    Laura, you know I worked at Spectrum with Bobby Hughes when he was writing that book.. :)

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JB : Delloy needs to change his hobby to say quilting!

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, what he's doing is fine. With enough time and money either him or his heirs will probably finish. When he gets down to waiting for the last few pieces he'll need he can try a real challenge that will never be finished. What about assembling a complete collection of stamps from every country of the world?

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just hope he doesn't tire of it as quickly as he started it. :o

  • ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2018 6:17AM

    @Insider2 said:
    No, what he's doing is fine. With enough time and money either him or his heirs will probably finish. When he gets

    Time and money for coins sweeter than honey
    your sets aspire to be as cunning
    buyin' and sellin' and biddin' E-lias B
    gonna roll in his grave, when he get beat

    With apologies to the Beastie Boys. Too much coffee this AM.

    Wow that was stupid

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ranshdow said:

    @Insider2 said:
    No, what he's doing is fine. With enough time and money either him or his heirs will probably finish. When he gets

    Time and money for coins sweeter than honey
    your sets aspire to be as cunning
    buyin' and sellin' and biddin' E-lias B
    gonna roll in his grave, when he get beat

    With apologies to the Beastie Boys. Too much coffee this AM.

    Wow that was stupid

    I like my sugar with coffee and cream

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2018 7:14AM

    @Insider2 said:
    No, what he's doing is fine. With enough time and money either him or his heirs will probably finish. When he gets down to waiting for the last few pieces he'll need he can try a real challenge that will never be finished. What about assembling a complete collection of stamps from every country of the world?

    Assuming his heirs give a squat about coin sets! Mine don't...

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2018 8:17AM

    @drei3ree said:

    @Insider2 said:
    No, what he's doing is fine. With enough time and money either him or his heirs will probably finish. When he gets down to waiting for the last few pieces he'll need he can try a real challenge that will never be finished. What about assembling a complete collection of stamps from every country of the world?

    Assuming his heirs give a squat about coin sets! Mine don't...

    There are legal ways to keep it out of their hands unless they continue his quest and only to be broken up upon completion.

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2018 10:06AM

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @drei3ree said:

    @Insider2 said:
    No, what he's doing is fine. With enough time and money either him or his heirs will probably finish. When he gets down to waiting for the last few pieces he'll need he can try a real challenge that will never be finished. What about assembling a complete collection of stamps from every country of the world?

    Assuming his heirs give a squat about coin sets! Mine don't...

    I officially offer myself for adoption.

    You would have to go through John Brush and PCGS at your expense no matter how adorable you think you are. And if adopted, I really doubt Delroy would give you the time of day.

    Oops...almost forgot the emoticon.

    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @drei3ree said:

    @Insider2 said:
    No, what he's doing is fine. With enough time and money either him or his heirs will probably finish. When he gets down to waiting for the last few pieces he'll need he can try a real challenge that will never be finished. What about assembling a complete collection of stamps from every country of the world?

    Assuming his heirs give a squat about coin sets! Mine don't...

    There are legal ways to keep it out of their hands unless they continue his quest and only to be broken up upon completion.

    Yes. Trusts are super easy to set up in most states.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any trustee for a trust is going to want to sell the coins and invest the funds, however

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Any trustee for a trust is going to want to sell the coins and invest the funds, however

    That depends on the trust.
    My trust conveys the NUMISMATIC stuff to my children.
    They are aware and know where to look ....if...they wish to sell.
    However, they will inherit at time-of-death basis and whatever case would have minimal to no taxes.

    The bullion goes to the grandkids.
    Again in same way. Inherit at death basis.
    They can sell or keep (actually all can do either)

    FWIW, my lawyer thought it was a very well thought out plan.

    Other assets....sell. Distribute the money. There's no reason to inherit residential property as they won't (can't) live here (adult community)

    The cash..... well sure.... spend that stuff. :D

    If my KIDS run true to form, they'll just keep the junk. They keep everything else. My son still has his Honda 50 from 1973.

    LOL :D

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Any trustee for a trust is going to want to sell the coins and invest the funds, however

    The settlor has the absolute power to limit the power and/or discretion of the trustee.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not according to my atty

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2018 5:47PM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Not according to my atty

    Trustees are required to follow the terms of the trust and to consider the intent and purpose of the trust instrument in implementing it. A failure to do so would constitute a breach of trust in most cases. In many states, the language of a trust instrument can expand, restrict, eliminate, or otherwise alter the duty for a trustee to prudently invest.

    It is possible that there is some weird quirk in your state's law, and there are some variations among the states. It is more likely that the answer is much more nuanced and may depend on the purpose of the trust you suggested. For instance, if the goal of a trust is asset protection, limiting the discretion of the trustee may create problems. My point was that a resourceful individual can find ways to achieve his goal.

  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭
    1. There is a gem, 10. 1893 68+ in the next DLRC auction
    2. I believe that a 68+ gets more registry points than the cam but I am not positive. The plus is a pop one.
  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That was nice, i could have used that 1893 back

  • AlongAlong Posts: 466 ✭✭✭✭

    Great looking Proof!

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    JB : Delloy needs to change his hobby to say quilting!

    Then he'd be competing with my mother! No way.
    When I married my wife, I told her that I'd never had a store bought blanket. She bought a comforter...now we have like 20 more quilts in our house. Maybe we should start selling Quilts????

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    I just hope he doesn't tire of it as quickly as he started it. :o

    I don't see that happening...

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I’m worried about his hand falling off from writing all those checks

    Now, that is the one part of the hobby that I know for a fact he doesn't do...

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @drei3ree said:

    @Insider2 said:
    No, what he's doing is fine. With enough time and money either him or his heirs will probably finish. When he gets down to waiting for the last few pieces he'll need he can try a real challenge that will never be finished. What about assembling a complete collection of stamps from every country of the world?

    Assuming his heirs give a squat about coin sets! Mine don't...

    Well, he's converted at least one of his daughters into a coin collector. The others are certainly intrigued as well about different aspects of it.

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:
    New Upgrade to D. L. Hansen Complete Basic Proof Set

    1893 50C, Cameo PR68CA CAC POP 1/1, 1/0 for CA

    This is an interesting Barber Half Dollar Proof upgrade. This is the finest 1893 Proof Cameo, but there’s a non-CA proof that is technically better. This coin last appeared in a Legend Rare Coin Auctions, 9/29/2016. The coin sold for $18,500 and presently has a PCGS Price Guide Value of $24,000. It is not known where this coin has been the past two years. If anyone has any addition information, please provide.

    This coin very nicely fills a hole in the Hansen Proof set. Hansen’s U.S. Coins Complete Basic Set, Proof (1801-1964) has now 801 coins. The set is 344 coins short of the needed 1145. This may the first time that someone has tried to complete a US proof set. I just don’t know.

    The last appearance for this coin was in the Legend Rare Coin - The Regency Auction XVI Lot 368, 9/29/2016. The description reads: This quite possibly is the FINEST 1893 50C PR Cameo graded. We have seen the other coin-this coin is far better! Deep and glittering mirrors beam from all over. They have exceptional clarity, cleanliness, and are highly reflective. They look like a freshly formed sheet of ice. Both sides were blessed by Mother nature with a totally original moderate mix of navy/forest green/pale violet/golden brown colors. Miss Liberty and the details are frosted and have razor sharp strikes. The eye appeal is world class! The other coin (higher grade?) had an asking price of $32,500-and was not as well contrasted or as lively.

    This is another purchase where Hansen may have acquired the best coin and not the higher graded coin. You can be the judge of that.

    Provenance: Ex. HC Aug. 2015 Lot 4099 [NGC PR 68 Star Cam]

    1893 50C, Cameo PR68CA CAC POP 1/1

    Hey, it's CAC'd! Perfection might like that :)

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2018 6:28PM

    The 1893 PR68CAM CAC was a great pickup for DLH. As it sold for only $18,500 in Legend's 2016 auction. I trust the previous owner has much more to now spend on new inventory. So, maybe specialist will get a call.......

    Currin questions if DLH might be the first to complete a US coin proof collection, but he is 344 coins short. Does anyone know how many proofs Eliasberg had? Lot's very tough dates in early proofs. Perhaps an unobtainable dream........

    OINK

  • ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭✭

    They should call that coin 'Electric Drool'

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ranshdow said:
    They should call that coin 'Electric Drool'

    I love how Laura names some of the special coins in her auction catalogs! I think that is something more coin dealers should do...

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2018 9:08PM

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    I think he should be on it - and JB saying he’s not only confirms he probably is. ;)

    Nice try Bruce! I'm too much of a straight shooter to divert in that manner. I like that you think I'm thinking ahead though. I do enjoy a good game of chess.

    I just wanted to save this. ;)

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    I think he should be on it - and JB saying he’s not only confirms he probably is. ;)

    Nice try Bruce! I'm too much of a straight shooter to divert in that manner. I like that you think I'm thinking ahead though. I do enjoy a good game of chess.

    I just wanted to save this. ;)

    My favorite thing about the coin business is that every day brings something different and things change on a constant basis...But, diversion is not my strong point. I learned that when my wife told me to give up on trying...

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:
    We just acquired another coin today that's one of the major pieces in the Eliasberg Quest. I can't reveal the actual coin just yet, but it's one of the tougher pieces...possibly in Currin's Top 10.

    Very nice! When will you be able to reveal?

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2018 10:29PM

    .

  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not generally keen on Barbers but that '93 half is a real beauty.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:
    We just acquired another coin today that's one of the major pieces in the Eliasberg Quest. I can't reveal the actual coin just yet, but it's one of the tougher pieces...possibly in Currin's Top 10.

    It is now possible to take 3 of the Top 10 off the table in the next few weeks. Best of luck on the bidding.

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • TopoftheHillTopoftheHill Posts: 186 ✭✭✭

    The hobby needs more people like Hansen. Maybe not people trying for one of everything, but for meaningful collections. It would be great if famous rich people became involved in coin collecting with a mere portion of their wealth.

    Jeff Bezos, Lebron James, Mark Cuban, Carl Icahn, Phil Knight, Abigail Johnson, any of the Walton heirs....

    Imagine the impact!

  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TopoftheHill said:
    The hobby needs more people like Hansen. Maybe not people trying for one of everything, but for meaningful collections. It would be great if famous rich people became involved in coin collecting with a mere portion of their wealth.

    Jeff Bezos, Lebron James, Mark Cuban, Carl Icahn, Phil Knight, Abigail Johnson, any of the Walton heirs....

    Imagine the impact!

    This is what Laura has been preaching for years...and she's correct. If you compare the value and rarity of coins to things like art and other collectibles, they seem to be excellent values overall.

    Ironically, it's exactly what Mr. Hansen believes as well. Listening to him explain it to other parties (especially bankers) is really eye-opening.

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @JBatDavidLawrence said:
    We just acquired another coin today that's one of the major pieces in the Eliasberg Quest. I can't reveal the actual coin just yet, but it's one of the tougher pieces...possibly in Currin's Top 10.

    Very nice! When will you be able to reveal?

    Hopefully today!

    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection

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