@erikthredd said:
JR Smith is all over the place with his explanation of that play. Last night you can clearly read his lips when he told Lebron "i thought we were ahead" just seconds after the regulation buzzer sounded and Lebron asked him what the hell happened. Ty Lue even said JR thought they were ahead at that point.
Then JR is saying he knew they were tied and was waiting for someone to call a timeout. You had the ball in your hands and should have called it yourself or just gone up with a shot. He got the ball with 4.6 seconds left,that was plenty of time to try get a bucket or fouled.
Situations such as this is where the best coaches earn their money. Lesser coaches either make mistakes or hesitate due to lack of experience or they're simply not savy enough.
steve, my main point is that there always seems to be two ways that things are looked at when bias is expressed. we each see what we want to see and interpret it through that bias. if Golden State plays poorly or does it is viewed as them "sleepwalking" or somehow being disinterested. if the Cavs look like that, it is seen as them just being a bad Team.
when I was watching last night I saw a game between two Teams who were equally matched and at times seemed to gain the upper hand. I really don't think that when the Warriors sprinted out to a 7-10 point lead in the third quarter as they typically do that they backed off and let the Cavs back in. I really don't think that at the end of regulation the look I saw on the Warriors faces was disinterest: it looked more like confusion and a bucket or two away from panic, especially on the face of Durant. to the point of panic, the fans in Oracle seemed shocked with 4-5 minutes left in regulation and were pretty quiet.
in overtime I thought the Cavs looked to be the more tired of the two Teams and when Golden State made a few buckets, especially the corner three by Thompson, that the air went out and they were beaten. no fight left at that point.
was Love involved in something at the end?? we left for the drive home with about 1:40 left so I missed the fight and figure, sure, Thompson should be suspended but Green should also have been given the tech for taunting. he is a superlative defender but can't keep his mouth shut. it's certain he wasn't telling Tristan to have a nice rest before the next game.
it doen't matter, really. as long as Larry Nance, Jr. keeps his play clean from fouls he is a better player right now than Thompson.
Love walked onto the court when all that was happening. The NBA has been pretty strict when it comes to leaving the bench and stepping onto the court during an altercation even if the player doesn't go far. I didn't hear about Love until this morning.
I thought the initial ejection of Thompson was overblown for "throwing an elbow" at Livingston on that last shot with the shot clock running down but he made up for it going after Green. Green is a grade "A" douche but Tristan should have kept on walking.
Nance played great but the Cavs absolutely need all of their big men. GS's biggest weakness is in the middle and it showed last night with the Cavs killing them on the boards. Looney & McGee should get outplayed by Nance,Thompson & Love all series so losing just one of those guys for a game could hurt Cleveland.
@keets said:
steve, my main point is that there always seems to be two ways that things are looked at when bias is expressed. we each see what we want to see and interpret it through that bias. if Golden State plays poorly or does it is viewed as them "sleepwalking" or somehow being disinterested. if the Cavs look like that, it is seen as them just being a bad Team.
when I was watching last night I saw a game between two Teams who were equally matched and at times seemed to gain the upper hand. I really don't think that when the Warriors sprinted out to a 7-10 point lead in the third quarter as they typically do that they backed off and let the Cavs back in. I really don't think that at the end of regulation the look I saw on the Warriors faces was disinterest: it looked more like confusion and a bucket or two away from panic, especially on the face of Durant. to the point of panic, the fans in Oracle seemed shocked with 4-5 minutes left in regulation and were pretty quiet.
in overtime I thought the Cavs looked to be the more tired of the two Teams and when Golden State made a few buckets, especially the corner three by Thompson, that the air went out and they were beaten. no fight left at that point.
Towards the end there, perhaps around the last few minutes, i thought the Cavs would win that game. It just had the type of back & forth action that can allow a big underdog to prevail...however not this time.
@keets said:
what I think is good about the outcome is that both Coaches and Teams need to look at what they did wrong.
I've watched James numerous times on TV, usually just in the championships, as I don't follow basketball much at all during the regular season or early playoff rounds. And it amazes me that with all the mileage on those wheels, he can still drive to the basket as well as any younger player. Almost hard to believe, especially for a muscular guy such as that, whereby muscular guys usually lose their legs a lot earlier than others.
@keets said:
what I think is good about the outcome is that both Coaches and Teams need to look at what they did wrong.
I've watched James numerous times on TV, usually just in the championships, as I don't follow basketball much at all during the regular season or early playoff rounds. And it amazes me that with all the mileage on those wheels, he can still drive to the basket as well as any younger player. Almost hard to believe, especially for a muscular guy such as that, whereby muscular guys usually lose their legs a lot earlier than others.
The NBA has literally never seen a guy quite like this ( skill set, build, height and strength). He’s like an Avenger.
M
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Lebron and guys like him have that first step. Michael Jordan had it and Steph Curry has it. Jordan was an amazing jumper so he was hard to cut off at the rim, Curry has an amazingly soft touch that he uses to bank of the glass and Lebron has a combination of those two plus the added strength.
it was fun watching Curry run some isolation last night. he does it a little different than Lebron but with both of them it only takes about 2-5 seconds of crossover dribbling till you see the lane clearing and the "step" happens with the surrounding players collapsing toward the rim. James Harden is good but he should study film of those two running iso-ball.
something I didn't see yesterday was James in either a high or low post, unusual. I expect that on Sunday.
@keets said:
what I think is good about the outcome is that both Coaches and Teams need to look at what they did wrong.
I've watched James numerous times on TV, usually just in the championships, as I don't follow basketball much at all during the regular season or early playoff rounds. And it amazes me that with all the mileage on those wheels, he can still drive to the basket as well as any younger player. Almost hard to believe, especially for a muscular guy such as that, whereby muscular guys usually lose their legs a lot earlier than others.
The NBA has literally never seen a guy quite like this ( skill set, build, height and strength). He’s like an Avenger.
M
I'm still not going to waver at Wilt as GOAT. But strong consideration on my list has to begin thinking about placing James ahead of Jordan in the #2 spot. And it pains me to say this because I don't like James personally, but his amazing, unbelievable performances must be acknowledged.
Ya know what...I just did it...James is in my #2 spot.
I know Michael is gonna be hissed at me when he sees this post.
@keets said:
not Michael, but you have just incurred the wrath of Jon: aka, Dimeman!!
I think Jon said that he was 119 years old, may have been 120, and so I emailed him and asked if he could please put me in his will for that outstanding Washington quarter PCGS high grade collection of his.
I have a bad feeling now that I may have messed up that opportunity.
@keets said:
what I think is good about the outcome is that both Coaches and Teams need to look at what they did wrong.
I've watched James numerous times on TV, usually just in the championships, as I don't follow basketball much at all during the regular season or early playoff rounds. And it amazes me that with all the mileage on those wheels, he can still drive to the basket as well as any younger player. Almost hard to believe, especially for a muscular guy such as that, whereby muscular guys usually lose their legs a lot earlier than others.
The NBA has literally never seen a guy quite like this ( skill set, build, height and strength). He’s like an Avenger.
M
I'm still not going to waver at Wilt as GOAT. But strong consideration on my list has to begin thinking about placing James ahead of Jordan in the #2 spot. And it pains me to say this because I don't like James personally, but his amazing, unbelievable performances must be acknowledged.
Ya know what...I just did it...James is in my #2 spot.
I know Michael is gonna be hissed at me when he sees this post.
Sorry Steve, but MJ is still the GOAT, And a lot has to happen to unseat him.
Steve I have MJ and James at 1A and 1B. I could argue either of them as GOAT with conviction. Wilt is a strong choice as well. Just never saw him play nor his competition
m
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Charles Barkley has LBJ at #7, but he doesn't like the man. I would be curious where Gruden has him since he isn't much of a fan either. personally, I think that before his career is over he will alter the GOAT dynamic and change a few minds along the way.
I can't remember if time out was called before the last two free throws in regular but if so the coach has to go over what ifs. If not the players have to know in their heads what to do. If you don't know the score look at the score board
I just was reading some post game reviews and came across an interesting one:
--- The crew was not reasonably certain whether James (CLE) was in the restricted area after an offensive foul was called against Durant (GSW). Upon replay review, it was confirmed that James was outside the restricted area. The referees also reviewed whether James was in a legal guarding position, which is an additional reviewable matter for this replay trigger. Replay showed James was not in a legal guarding position because he was turning his body and moving into Durant when contact occurred. Thus the initial call on the floor was overturned and James was assessed a blocking foul.
Many people were confused, and this is rare, but in the final two minutes officials can overturn a charge/block call upon review. However, that review can only be triggered by the question of whether the blocking player was in the restricted area or not (sort of like reviewing if a shot was a 3 or a 2) ---
if I take this on its face it is clear that they blew the call. when the play occurred Lebron was at least 3-4 feet outside of the restricted area, it wasn't really a close call. so if I read this interpretation of the rules, the Refs didn't review the play to see if it was a blocking foul because they couldn't, it was ruled a charge and should have stood that way. it was only upon looking at the bogus "restricted area" call that the Refs were able to also look at the charge and rule on blocking.
the result was a tie game after Durant made two free throws --- instead of it being Cavs up by two, possession and 36 seconds on the clock. water under the bridge, but it strikes me as another example of having a review process that doesn't really get used as planned and yet has the ability to affect a game's outcome.
it was used as planned , they used it to bail out golden state. Even that wasn't enough to rig the game so in the final seconds they somehow secretly dropped an avil on JR smiths head to make him lose track of the score.
You crack me up keets.........3 to 4 feet. James was maybe 1 foot or a little more out of the restricted area. The thing is they got the call right....it was a blocking foul. It was a great game, but you lost...let it go.
You crack me up keets.........3 to 4 feet. James was maybe 1 foot or a little more out of the restricted area
I have let it go, if you read what I have posted you would see that. but you have inadvertently helped reinforce the point of the article I cut-pasted, that the rule was used WRONG if it was clear that Lebron was outside of the restricted area.
go re-read my post about the rule. then re-read what bronco wrote and what others in the thread have written about the Refs.
the game was lost, not because of that call, but since the call was clearly wrong according to the rules and the two-minute review process, we will never know what would have happened
I think they looked at it to be sure since Lebron ended up in the restricted area and they wanted to be sure. For sure I would be upset if I were the Cavs.
m
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LeBron was not even close to the restricted area. Perhaps not 4' but at least 3'11". Their was indecision on the face of the official calling the charge. He was looking at another official for confirmation. They used the restricted area question as an excuse to review the block/charge. If they lived up to the rules of the game as they are now it is a charge as called. I think it was a charge after replay but I may be a bit prejudiced. With 36 seconds to go there is a lot of basketball to be played. Getting that call right would not have guaranteed victory. How much gas does LeBron have left in the tank?
@Brick said:
LeBron was not even close to the restricted area. Perhaps not 4' but at least 3'11". Their was indecision on the face of the official calling the charge. He was looking at another official for confirmation. They used the restricted area question as an excuse to review the block/charge. If they lived up to the rules of the game as they are now it is a charge as called. I think it was a charge after replay but I may be a bit prejudiced. With 36 seconds to go there is a lot of basketball to be played. Getting that call right would not have guaranteed victory. How much gas does LeBron have left in the tank?
@keets said:
Charles Barkley has LBJ at #7, but he doesn't like the man. I would be curious where Gruden has him since he isn't much of a fan either. personally, I think that before his career is over he will alter the GOAT dynamic and change a few minds along the way.
Little credence for the chubby player that spit on fans. Even Laimbeer didn't stoop that low.
Brick it’s just a possible that no one was looking at the restricted zone at the time of Durant vs James collision. Of course no one will ever admit that
m
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is it safe to call Game 2 a "Response" game??
is it safe to say that overall the Refs did an adequate job but still missed too many calls that they must get right??
how long will it take for the end of Game 1 to resurface in Game 2??
and the NBA has sorted out the end of Game 1 by lowering the Flagrant 2 to a Flagrant 1, issuing a $25k fine and no suspensions to Thompson or Love. that will probably anger some people, but if you think about the whole thing it seems that calling the Tech was ridiculous from the beginning, with less than three seconds remaining on a close-out of a three point shot that shouldn't have even been taken.
that highlights the Refs failure to officiate that game and doesn't portend well for either Team going forward. if what we'll get is "home court refs" than the whole thing is pointless.
LaBron was fabulous. When his teammates realize they can't win no matter how good he is they may get deflated and the series gets one sided. It is imperative the Cavs are as competitive in game two as they were in game 1.
there is the probability of a one sided game but it's hard to know who that might be. both Teams shot poorly, not as surprising a thing from Cleveland as from Golden State. another thing is that we should expect the same from Lebron in Game 2 while I wonder if Durant will show up and want to play Lebron. having Curry, Livingston, Thompson or Looney on Lebron wasn't very successful so maybe it is KD's turn. should the Warriors make that choice it may lower Lebron's point total but his assists will go up as the Cavs should win in the paint on offense.
With respect to Livingston's shot, the shot clock was set to expire about 4-5 seconds before the game clock expired. He shot the ball before the shot clock expired. That is ingrained behavior.
What is he supposed to do? Hold the ball until the shot clock expired an hand the ball to a Cleveland player? Doing so would be contrary to instinct and training. If necessary, just heave it to the basket, but do not simply do nothing and let the shot clock expired.
Anyone who thinks otherwise has an unrealistic view of the realities of the game.
If in football a last second pass in intercepted in a blow out game by a defender on the team winning the game and the player who intercepts the pass has an open field to return the interception for a touchdown, should he not run the ball in for a score? Should he fall to the turf and wait to be downed? Should he hand the ball off to a player for the other team?
I suspect the player who intercepts the ball will run it back for a score.
What is he supposed to do? Hold the ball until the shot clock expired an hand the ball to a Cleveland player?
no, he would hand the ball to the Ref like happens all around the NBA all season. then the Cavs stand and dribble out while the Warriors walk to their bench. it happens all the time.
as far as the NFL comparison, it isn't really germane
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it is soooo easy to think you're up by 1 when you're actually tied.
regards,
derek harper
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Situations such as this is where the best coaches earn their money. Lesser coaches either make mistakes or hesitate due to lack of experience or they're simply not savy enough.
I remember that.....very funny...loved it......of course I was for the Lakers.

steve, my main point is that there always seems to be two ways that things are looked at when bias is expressed. we each see what we want to see and interpret it through that bias. if Golden State plays poorly or does it is viewed as them "sleepwalking" or somehow being disinterested. if the Cavs look like that, it is seen as them just being a bad Team.
when I was watching last night I saw a game between two Teams who were equally matched and at times seemed to gain the upper hand. I really don't think that when the Warriors sprinted out to a 7-10 point lead in the third quarter as they typically do that they backed off and let the Cavs back in. I really don't think that at the end of regulation the look I saw on the Warriors faces was disinterest: it looked more like confusion and a bucket or two away from panic, especially on the face of Durant. to the point of panic, the fans in Oracle seemed shocked with 4-5 minutes left in regulation and were pretty quiet.
in overtime I thought the Cavs looked to be the more tired of the two Teams and when Golden State made a few buckets, especially the corner three by Thompson, that the air went out and they were beaten. no fight left at that point.
I wonder how long before we hear from the NBA on whether Tristan Thompson & Kevin Love get suspended or not for game 2.
Eric
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I said it before and will say it again......this is not going to be a cake walk for GS.
Well the GOAT certainly did.
Yup,he went right for the jugular
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ok that is some awful photoshop work there
There are TONS of meme's & gif's newly made since last night
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was Love involved in something at the end?? we left for the drive home with about 1:40 left so I missed the fight and figure, sure, Thompson should be suspended but Green should also have been given the tech for taunting. he is a superlative defender but can't keep his mouth shut. it's certain he wasn't telling Tristan to have a nice rest before the next game.
it doen't matter, really. as long as Larry Nance, Jr. keeps his play clean from fouls he is a better player right now than Thompson.
Love walked onto the court when all that was happening. The NBA has been pretty strict when it comes to leaving the bench and stepping onto the court during an altercation even if the player doesn't go far. I didn't hear about Love until this morning.
I thought the initial ejection of Thompson was overblown for "throwing an elbow" at Livingston on that last shot with the shot clock running down but he made up for it going after Green. Green is a grade "A" douche but Tristan should have kept on walking.
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Nance played great but the Cavs absolutely need all of their big men. GS's biggest weakness is in the middle and it showed last night with the Cavs killing them on the boards. Looney & McGee should get outplayed by Nance,Thompson & Love all series so losing just one of those guys for a game could hurt Cleveland.
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Towards the end there, perhaps around the last few minutes, i thought the Cavs would win that game. It just had the type of back & forth action that can allow a big underdog to prevail...however not this time.
what I think is good about the outcome is that both Coaches and Teams need to look at what they did wrong.
I've watched James numerous times on TV, usually just in the championships, as I don't follow basketball much at all during the regular season or early playoff rounds. And it amazes me that with all the mileage on those wheels, he can still drive to the basket as well as any younger player. Almost hard to believe, especially for a muscular guy such as that, whereby muscular guys usually lose their legs a lot earlier than others.
The NBA has literally never seen a guy quite like this ( skill set, build, height and strength). He’s like an Avenger.
M
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Kevin Love won't be suspended for leaving the bench last night. No word on Thompson yet though.
Eric
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Lebron and guys like him have that first step. Michael Jordan had it and Steph Curry has it. Jordan was an amazing jumper so he was hard to cut off at the rim, Curry has an amazingly soft touch that he uses to bank of the glass and Lebron has a combination of those two plus the added strength.
it was fun watching Curry run some isolation last night. he does it a little different than Lebron but with both of them it only takes about 2-5 seconds of crossover dribbling till you see the lane clearing and the "step" happens with the surrounding players collapsing toward the rim. James Harden is good but he should study film of those two running iso-ball.
something I didn't see yesterday was James in either a high or low post, unusual. I expect that on Sunday.
I'm still not going to waver at Wilt as GOAT. But strong consideration on my list has to begin thinking about placing James ahead of Jordan in the #2 spot. And it pains me to say this because I don't like James personally, but his amazing, unbelievable performances must be acknowledged.
Ya know what...I just did it...James is in my #2 spot.
I know Michael is gonna be hissed at me when he sees this post.
not Michael, but you have just incurred the wrath of Jon: aka, Dimeman!!
I think Jon said that he was 119 years old, may have been 120, and so I emailed him and asked if he could please put me in his will for that outstanding Washington quarter PCGS high grade collection of his.
I have a bad feeling now that I may have messed up that opportunity.
Sorry Steve, but MJ is still the GOAT, And a lot has to happen to unseat him.
Here is one of many lists of the greatest BB players.
https://www.thetoptens.com/basketball-players/
Steve I have MJ and James at 1A and 1B. I could argue either of them as GOAT with conviction. Wilt is a strong choice as well. Just never saw him play nor his competition
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Charles Barkley has LBJ at #7, but he doesn't like the man. I would be curious where Gruden has him since he isn't much of a fan either. personally, I think that before his career is over he will alter the GOAT dynamic and change a few minds along the way.
I can't remember if time out was called before the last two free throws in regular but if so the coach has to go over what ifs. If not the players have to know in their heads what to do. If you don't know the score look at the score board
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I just was reading some post game reviews and came across an interesting one:
--- The crew was not reasonably certain whether James (CLE) was in the restricted area after an offensive foul was called against Durant (GSW). Upon replay review, it was confirmed that James was outside the restricted area. The referees also reviewed whether James was in a legal guarding position, which is an additional reviewable matter for this replay trigger. Replay showed James was not in a legal guarding position because he was turning his body and moving into Durant when contact occurred. Thus the initial call on the floor was overturned and James was assessed a blocking foul.
Many people were confused, and this is rare, but in the final two minutes officials can overturn a charge/block call upon review. However, that review can only be triggered by the question of whether the blocking player was in the restricted area or not (sort of like reviewing if a shot was a 3 or a 2) ---
if I take this on its face it is clear that they blew the call. when the play occurred Lebron was at least 3-4 feet outside of the restricted area, it wasn't really a close call. so if I read this interpretation of the rules, the Refs didn't review the play to see if it was a blocking foul because they couldn't, it was ruled a charge and should have stood that way. it was only upon looking at the bogus "restricted area" call that the Refs were able to also look at the charge and rule on blocking.
the result was a tie game after Durant made two free throws --- instead of it being Cavs up by two, possession and 36 seconds on the clock. water under the bridge, but it strikes me as another example of having a review process that doesn't really get used as planned and yet has the ability to affect a game's outcome.
it was used as planned , they used it to bail out golden state. Even that wasn't enough to rig the game so in the final seconds they somehow secretly dropped an avil on JR smiths head to make him lose track of the score.
I Liked that "dropped an anvil on JR. Smiths head"
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You crack me up keets.........3 to 4 feet. James was maybe 1 foot or a little more out of the restricted area. The thing is they got the call right....it was a blocking foul. It was a great game, but you lost...let it go.
Where's Yogi on the last play in regulation
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All kinds of stupid things can happen in the heat of the moment at the end of a game. Just ask Chris Webber!
You crack me up keets.........3 to 4 feet. James was maybe 1 foot or a little more out of the restricted area
I have let it go, if you read what I have posted you would see that. but you have inadvertently helped reinforce the point of the article I cut-pasted, that the rule was used WRONG if it was clear that Lebron was outside of the restricted area.
go re-read my post about the rule. then re-read what bronco wrote and what others in the thread have written about the Refs.
the game was lost, not because of that call, but since the call was clearly wrong according to the rules and the two-minute review process, we will never know what would have happened
I think they looked at it to be sure since Lebron ended up in the restricted area and they wanted to be sure. For sure I would be upset if I were the Cavs.
m
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LeBron was not even close to the restricted area. Perhaps not 4' but at least 3'11". Their was indecision on the face of the official calling the charge. He was looking at another official for confirmation. They used the restricted area question as an excuse to review the block/charge. If they lived up to the rules of the game as they are now it is a charge as called. I think it was a charge after replay but I may be a bit prejudiced. With 36 seconds to go there is a lot of basketball to be played. Getting that call right would not have guaranteed victory. How much gas does LeBron have left in the tank?
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Ralph
It was a clear blocking foul....Brick.
Little credence for the chubby player that spit on fans. Even Laimbeer didn't stoop that low.
Brick it’s just a possible that no one was looking at the restricted zone at the time of Durant vs James collision. Of course no one will ever admit that
m
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Ok. What's over is over. Instead of a sweep it will take the Cavs 5 games to win the series.
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Ralph
Yes, but only if the entire Warriors team comes down with a case of hemorrhagic fever, and therefore must forfeit the rest of the series.
It has been since named JR Fever and the Warriors need to be careful seeing that the visiting locker room is already contaminated.
Eric
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is it safe to call Game 2 a "Response" game??
is it safe to say that overall the Refs did an adequate job but still missed too many calls that they must get right??
how long will it take for the end of Game 1 to resurface in Game 2??
Each game in a playoff basketball game is unique and most of the time the next game is quite different than its predecessor.
It is likely that game two tomorrow night will be one sided.
and the NBA has sorted out the end of Game 1 by lowering the Flagrant 2 to a Flagrant 1, issuing a $25k fine and no suspensions to Thompson or Love. that will probably anger some people, but if you think about the whole thing it seems that calling the Tech was ridiculous from the beginning, with less than three seconds remaining on a close-out of a three point shot that shouldn't have even been taken.
that highlights the Refs failure to officiate that game and doesn't portend well for either Team going forward. if what we'll get is "home court refs" than the whole thing is pointless.
It will be another war. These are the finals and nobody mails it in.
LaBron was fabulous. When his teammates realize they can't win no matter how good he is they may get deflated and the series gets one sided. It is imperative the Cavs are as competitive in game two as they were in game 1.
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Ralph
there is the probability of a one sided game but it's hard to know who that might be. both Teams shot poorly, not as surprising a thing from Cleveland as from Golden State. another thing is that we should expect the same from Lebron in Game 2 while I wonder if Durant will show up and want to play Lebron. having Curry, Livingston, Thompson or Looney on Lebron wasn't very successful so maybe it is KD's turn. should the Warriors make that choice it may lower Lebron's point total but his assists will go up as the Cavs should win in the paint on offense.
With respect to Livingston's shot, the shot clock was set to expire about 4-5 seconds before the game clock expired. He shot the ball before the shot clock expired. That is ingrained behavior.
What is he supposed to do? Hold the ball until the shot clock expired an hand the ball to a Cleveland player? Doing so would be contrary to instinct and training. If necessary, just heave it to the basket, but do not simply do nothing and let the shot clock expired.
Anyone who thinks otherwise has an unrealistic view of the realities of the game.
If in football a last second pass in intercepted in a blow out game by a defender on the team winning the game and the player who intercepts the pass has an open field to return the interception for a touchdown, should he not run the ball in for a score? Should he fall to the turf and wait to be downed? Should he hand the ball off to a player for the other team?
I suspect the player who intercepts the ball will run it back for a score.
What is he supposed to do? Hold the ball until the shot clock expired an hand the ball to a Cleveland player?
no, he would hand the ball to the Ref like happens all around the NBA all season. then the Cavs stand and dribble out while the Warriors walk to their bench. it happens all the time.
as far as the NFL comparison, it isn't really germane