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TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

into an album ?

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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No

    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No...

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The only crack out I would consider for an album would be a 19th century presidential campaign token. I have 95+% of my collection raw and in albums. The only certified pieces I have I bought that way because I could not find them raw. I'd like to crack them, but I know that would be like throwing money out the window because more and more collectors want those pieces certified.

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No...

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. The market today demands slabs and stickers if you want to sell for a decent price at some time in the future. Album today, sold sometime in the future for a disappointing price.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Peace_dollar88Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NOPE!

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As long as the cert and sticker doesn't make a large difference in price, I would. I have a few crackouts, though none were cac, in my 7070 and I just tape the cert to the inside cover for record keeping.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • thevolcanogodthevolcanogod Posts: 270 ✭✭✭

    Absolutely! But the current albums I’m working on deal with (mostly) very modest coins where CAC likely doesn’t impact pricing that much. So take my opinion with a grain of salt.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Treasure the CAC and look for duplicate to fill the album. It's too nice of the coin's "accomplishment" to be cracked in anyway.

  • Senator32Senator32 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't crack ANY PCGS slab....PERIOD! But that's me. :);)B)o:)

  • coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no, cac's bring a very nice premium when you sell them

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only if the $$ doesn't matter. Have cracked medals for display. Will lose a little $ but worth it to me. Haven't cracked a US coin in over 20 years, other than to resubmit, but might for a lower-value toner set or an AU set. Sure miss looking at my coins in an album or as a set in plastic.

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I probably wouldn't, but not for the reason one might assume....

    It seems to me that a coin that is graded properly, and CAC'ed, should more often than not be able to get the same (or very similar!) grade and CAC if re-submitted.

    My concern would be losing the physical protection of the coin! First there's the cracking process, which might go badly. And albums are notorious for adding slide scratches, and just the act of handling it risks finger prints, dropping, scratching, etc. (Basically, I don't trust my less-than-nimble fingers.) :)

    So, it's really a matter of risk rather than some deep love of the holder, or the sticker....

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A coin that derives a huge part of its value from the sticker like a CAC'd MS66 common-date Saint? NO!

    A coin that sells at the same price with or without a sticker like a common-date MS63 Morgan? Sure. Why not?

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope, not me.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Completely depends upon the coin.

  • StorkStork Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Been there, done that.

    Bought the last I needed for the 7070 gold page ($10 Indian). Told the guy I bought it from I was going to crack it and he CLEARLY thought I was nuts. So what. I wanted a nice looking coin for my album (1910 MS-63) and it is basically a very nice widget. The 7070 isn't something I'm doing with plans to sell, so my heirs can figure it out. The Saint was in a green label 63 slab too, but in the pre-CAC days when I bought it.


  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2018 9:04PM

    Only if the green bean and plastic had negative value (e.g. a solid gem in a 64+ holder with a green bean)...I wouldn’t crack it just for an album though.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2018 9:14PM

    Nope-slabs and stickers bring more money and they offer protection, as well.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • TheDukeKTheDukeK Posts: 359 ✭✭✭

    depends on the coin

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    oh, the humanity!

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 45 mercury in AU58, yes, a 1820 bust quarter in AU58, no...........

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  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,388 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never

    I would never crack a slab unless resubmitting.

    Coins & Currency
  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have not cracked a CAC as my cracking was pre-CAC but I did crack some wheaties to put into the album. A CAC would not have changed my mind. Might not have been the greatest choice but I couldn't get that slab to fit in the little hole. I made a cert page to stick my cracked certs on which is kinda neat. I have no plans to sell my Lincoln set and everyone always says... buy the keys in plastic. I probably won't start any other sets like this just because of the value factor, I'll just keep boxes of slabs. Do what makes you happy and what you enjoy. Bringing out the Dansco full of shiny Lincolns is pretty cool and I like it.

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not as I do not collect anything in Albums. However, anyone who tells you not to is looking at this from a "protect your investment" perspective. There is something very appealing at looking at coins is an album. Especially one so well put together to include CAC specimens. You should do so if the cost to regrade, and resubmit to CAC is not more than the enjoyment you get from seeing all the coins in a single album. It is, after all, YOUR collection.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no.

  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've done it with coins I purchased graded for my type set album.
    I do keep the labels taped to the inside of the book for reference later though.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Meltdown said:
    I've done it with coins I purchased graded for my type set album.
    I do keep the labels taped to the inside of the book for reference later though.

    That doesn't matter at ALL! As soon as it is out of the holder....it is a RAW coin.....PERIOD.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ruin a CAC, break your mother's back.

    Yer fren.
    Edith

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  • drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes, a few times! I love touching my coins!

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Meltdown said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @Meltdown said:
    I've done it with coins I purchased graded for my type set album.
    I do keep the labels taped to the inside of the book for reference later though.

    That doesn't matter at ALL! As soon as it is out of the holder....it is a RAW coin.....PERIOD.

    OK, take it easy caps lock. I tape the labels simply for my own reference so I know what the coin used to be,
    My type set album so far has been a ten year work in progress. It's a visual reminder that I find helpful when upgrading.

    Just wanted to make a point. ;)B)o:)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not crack slabbed coins.... CAC or not.....I buy the coin, the slab and any extraneous decorations are incidental.....It is the coin that attracts me. Cheers, RickO

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2018 5:27PM

    I've cracked a $3000+ CAC coin.... the second I opened the package I received back from CAC... as I dropped my Rattler on my ceramic kitchen tiles.... DOH!!!!! :s

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would do it in a heartbeat if I still had an album to fill, but I don't so case closed!

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BTW.. I hate slabbed coins.

  • msch1manmsch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭

    Pretty common to see raw coins offered by EAC dealers that were cracked out of slabs that had CAC stickers...sometimes will find that the same coin has been cracked out of multiple slabs with CAC stickers when you trace through and look up the auctions from the pedigree information.

  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep, I've done exactly that. Some coins are happier in albums, near their friends.

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @drei3ree said:
    Yes, a few times! I love touching my coins!

    Best answer yet.

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ive done it numerous times lately. Bought a customers indian head starter collection in UNC a while back, these were cracked pcgs & ngc coins. Decided to finish as a project, and I bought all slabbed coins incl many that were cac'd as well as Photo sealed. Incl cracking a 77 in 64cac. I actually had a 77 in my personal box slabbed 64 cac ps, but didn't want to crack it, so I got another for the book.

    Fast forward to recently , bought a customers type book that I kept, got rid of the marginal coins, kept the nicer which many had been broken from slabs (diff customer) . Been filling some remaining spots with cracked coins from holders on occasions as they present them selves.

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know what to think on auctions that say "used to be slabbed in CAC MSxyz+".

    Usually it's "bid like any other raw coin".

    But hey screw it enjoy your money and coins and women how you want. It's your money at the end of the day.

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stork said:
    Been there, done that.

    The 7070 isn't something I'm doing with plans to sell, so my heirs can figure it out. The Saint was in a green label 63 slab too, but in the pre-CAC days when I bought it.

    Probably a good idea to ensure that your heirs have a way to figure out logistics of your album, so they don't get taken on a 1-800-FU4-GOLD scheme. Acid free paper, graphite pencil.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No for me.

  • musstangrmusstangr Posts: 61 ✭✭✭

    I started collecting gold quarter indians a while ago in 62 CAC with the intention of putting them in an album. Every dealer I bought from, told me not to...LOL, the look on their face said more than their words.

    After looking at CAC pops on these coins I decided reluctantly they were probably right.

    In coins, especially gold Indians, its not so much the fear of grading or fakes that scare me....its cleaning. I often study pics of genuine-cleaned coins online and sometimes I just can't see the "cleaning" hence the buy in slabs and crack out for albums.

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