A Pyschedelic $5000 toned ASE....
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Anyone have any ideas how a 1994 ASE gets this toning ?
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I think it was divine intervention. Note the cross on the obverse.
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You would have to be on LSD to spend $5,000 on that.
This is the same seller as mentioned in the other thread with the Indian and Seated Proof from Greatcollections... Interesting
With a 24hr auction... This account is TROUBLE
I clicked on the link, but got a 0.0% feedback rating. Does this mean no sales in the last 12 months? Maybe just got back into it. I have no opinion either way.but Psychedelic for sure
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Looks like it was altered after being slabed somehow. Can't see PCGS letting
this one go through.
I have read that some other seller on the bay can alter the toning inside the slab.
Scary if true.....
This is the same hijacked account as the other eBay thread. I am not 100% sure but I think I know who owns this and it is another stolen image.
By the way, the owner had called this one the Teagle.
Also it is not neon in any way.
Way juiced up pics.
Talented Doc with a sufur pen, similar to the striped ASE's that have been showing up this last year.
I'm on way too many mushrooms. Trust me when I say it doesn't look any better LOL
I honestly think I'd be offended if someone tried to give me that.
I would be thrilled. it's an ounce of silver. BIG SMILE.
Nope but it's in a problem-free holder. The cross reminds me somewhat of some toning patterns I've seen on Morgans. I wonder if they were in similar environments.
It looks like blatant AT to me.> @Zoins said:
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Guess what you're getting if there is ever a secret santa exchange here. lol
I'm sure someone could make one for you.
It took a cross eyed kid with a 9 volt and acetone to make that piece.
Yes, I bet this coin was whisked back in time using a new quantum time displacing machine called the Application Transporter (AT for short), but I could be wrong. It might have been placed by a time traveler in a unopened Mint bag in 1878 and developed that toning naturally over the past 100 years... lol
No doubt AT... when is the real question.... before or after slabbing.... there are several methods that will achieve this... Cheers, RickO
I really like the reverse!
Look at the letter E in LIBERTY, there is a right angle...the only way to get a right angle is to mask an area to restrict a color change. This cannot be done 'inside' the slab.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
those "waffle" toned coins are caused by those cardboard coin mailers that stick together. someone sandwiched that coin inside.
That thing is only worth melt!
Barf.
So this looks like a TPG approved MA coin then?
I call these "carry your cross" coins (just in time for Good Friday, too). I have seen a few Silver Eagles toned in a cross-like pattern. I have seen many Morgans exhibit this off-centered cross pattern. Highly doubt this was toned in the slab. I have seen raw examples of this type of toning. Also, WoodenJefferson is correct, based on my understanding of the nature of toning.
Anyone have thoughts on what causes this cross pattern on Eagles and Morgans?
My comment was aimed at whether the Eagle was toned inside or while it was raw, not that it was Market Acceptable.
To answer MA, who the heck knows now days? I for sure wouldn't touch that with a 10' pole.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
Noted, I wasn't specifically referring to either of us suggesting it was MA, but depending on the TPG definition of MA for slabbing purposes. If it was toned raw and then slabbed, then regardless of what we think, it seems that the TPG decided it was MA.
It also seems like the "Carry Your Cross" slabbing pattern is more likely to be done outside the slab than in.
The dreaded talented doc with a sulfur pen grade B sci fi movie title from the fifties, injecting sulfur gas into pcgs slabs in the 2000s.
Who'd a thought?
On Morgans it would most likely be EOR (end of roll) toning where the tabs happen to have been folded as such.
My Easter coin...
steveben, Have you seen this in person? Reason I ask is that before Xmas, there was a raw example being auctioned on ebay. The stripes were bright red and blue with the white being the untoned silver. It had the appearance of a US flag draped across Miss Liberty. That coin wreaked of being hand made and still brought over 300 IIRC. The Docs may be using cardboard to facilitate the toning pattern, but I believe these are contrived.
I would love to hear the thoughts of anyone who could explain how this might have happened over time as in the PCI holders and their distinctive toning patterns. Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong.
Thats exactly what it is. A PCGS approved and certified MA toned modern ASE, lots more where this one came from, along with Ikes, JFKs, Jeffs, Washington Qs, Roosies and Lincolns.
As others said, this "Seller" is a scammer: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/978001/big-ebay-scam-alert-1910-d-10-pcgs-ms67-1864-dollar-pcgs-pr65
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this one was done that way:
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i was told be a reliable source that this one was also done that way:
have fun!
I agree with the ugly POS comment. I would give silver spot for it and sell it for silver. Keeping it the garage until sold. It doesn't deserve to be with real coins!
That ASE is just as NT as the thousands more wildly toned examples also slabbed. There are a number of ways that pattern could form from wrapper edges to rubber bands to other forms of storage/display.
The real wow is the asking price. That's an AsTronomical price.
Here are the slab images for posterity.
Here's a very famous Morgan known as The Southern Cross...
Why only MS68? Looks better (maybe star quality).
PCGS doesnt give Stars and NGC would never slabbed this coin...
Someone is hoping for a fat payday.
What, debates over so-called toned bullion. Gotta love it.
Did anyone point out yet that this is from the seller who has the scammer auction on right now? This one is probably the same deal.
That shot is the smoking gun. Thanks.
Fifth post down from top.
Maybe the seller was hoping that one of the people that will pay $5k for a pancake that purportedly looks like Jesus would show up. To be clear, it is not my listing. I don't even find the coin attractive.
This coin has a lot more going for it than the coin in the OP. The coin you posted looks much, much more natural to my eyes.