The next Eliasberg?

specialist

Kudos to delloy for even attempting this great feat.

sadly he will run into a brick wall on 2-3 pieces because of the current owners (its not even a matter of price). regardless, even without being 100% complete he still has accomplished something no one else can or even could at this point.

Currin

Hansen added a half dozen early half eagles to his set. The PCGS total value of the six coins approx $3m. All are very nice additions by any standard.

1795 Sm Eagle MS62 $110k
1795 Lg Eagle MS 62+ $195k
1815 MS65 $825k. POP 1/0
1826 MS66+ $575k POP 1/0
1828/7 MS63 325k Eliasberg/Pogue Specimen
1829 Small MS65+ $950k POP 1/0

Gazes

Anyone know the percentage of his gold collection that is cac stickered?

Currin

This whole set is about 18% cac. I have not looked at breaking out gold.

Gazes

@Currin said:
This whole set is about 18% cac. I have not looked at breaking out gold.

Thank you, that info is helpful. I asked about the gold sticker rate because JA is so tough on gold.

mvs7

@Currin said:
Mvs7.. these are some of Coins that Eliasberg is missing. Are you saying they were not recognized as needed? Why?
1841 10c
1870 10c
1818 $5
1825 $5
1828 $5
1831$5

I had read somewhere previously that he was missing a few coins in what would be considered a "complete" set today because when he was collecting, the definition of "complete" was slightly different--a few coins known today were not recognized when he was collecting--thus my comment. I think these you listed above are probably just errors. For example, I can plainly see the first two (Eliasberg 1841 10c and 1870 10c) in my copy of the 1996 auction catalog:

PCGS should probably audit their records... ;-)

JBatDavidLawrence

@Gazes said:
Anyone know the percentage of his gold collection that is cac stickered?

Many (if not most?) of the gold coins have not been submitted to CAC for stickering. It's in the long term plans, but the #1 sets (except for a large number of the $20s) have simply not been submitted. It's a logistical nightmare, but when the timing is right, we'll get it done.

JBatDavidLawrence

@cccoins said:

@tradedollarnut said:
IMO, ultimately this will be the measure of the set

https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/u-s-coins/famous-u-s-coins/100-greatest-u-s-coins/alltimeset/151812

Perhaps DLRC can create the full list on their site and publish updates publicly as they are made. I agree that this could be used for lots of great publicity for the hobby.

This is something else that is in our long-term goals. We've spent quite a few hours organizing and working on the sets since the partnership began. Once we get to the point where we feel that we've gotten our hands wrapped around everything, that's a part of what we're looking to do.

Currin

@Gazes said:
Anyone know the percentage of his gold collection that is cac stickered?

What percentage you believe a top 5 star set should be? 30%? 50%? More?

cccoins

@JBatDavidLawrence said:

@cccoins said:

@tradedollarnut said:
IMO, ultimately this will be the measure of the set

https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/u-s-coins/famous-u-s-coins/100-greatest-u-s-coins/alltimeset/151812

Perhaps DLRC can create the full list on their site and publish updates publicly as they are made. I agree that this could be used for lots of great publicity for the hobby.

This is something else that is in our long-term goals. We've spent quite a few hours organizing and working on the sets since the partnership began. Once we get to the point where we feel that we've gotten our hands wrapped around everything, that's a part of what we're looking to do.

I wish you the best on getting this going. It will be a great benefit to the hobby as a whole. Are there any pans to display pieces of the set on a regular basis?

tradedollarnut

@Currin said:

@Gazes said:
Anyone know the percentage of his gold collection that is cac stickered?

What percentage you believe a top 5 star set should be? 30%? 50%? More?

It depends. Most of the acknowledged finest sets by series are 80%+. When Pogue sold, it was hugely disappointing that the percentage was around 30-40%, yet it’s still regarded as a great collection. Gardner was pretty mixed as well.

Personally, I think a great series set should be high 80s to 90s, a great denomination set high 70s to 80s and an all encompassing set should be high 60s to 70s.

There are always compromises in every endeavor so allowances must be made

Gazes

I thought it would be interesting to bump this thread. I started it when I first heard about the Hansen collection. It is fun and interesting to read through the thread now that many questions have been answered.

fc

@Gazes said:
I thought it would be interesting to bump this thread. I started it when I first heard about the Hansen collection. It is fun and interesting to read through the thread now that many questions have been answered.

Thanks for bumping it up. I missed this one. While it may not be seemly I do enjoy reading posts by experts that disagree in ways and cause some friction.

OldIndianNutKase

I very much enjoyed reviewing this thread again. DLH has moved his rock up the hill significantly since the latest posts in this thread. Other threads have been a viable second stage thread to his success, but this thread reflects initial responses to his quest.

OINK