I won the double-struck 1964D Morgan. I just got back from a business trip, and didn't want to count any chickens before they were hatched. I now have it in hand.
I went $100 over my initial bid, because I own one of Dan's double-struck Capped Bust half dollars, and it's one of my favorites from everything he's made. I thought the 1964D would make a nice addition.
@felinfoel said:
I won the double-struck 1964D Morgan. I just got back from a business trip, and didn't want to count any chickens before they were hatched. I now have it in hand.
I went $100 over my initial bid, because I own one of Dan's double-struck Capped Bust half dollars, and it's one of my favorites from everything he's made. I thought the 1964D would make a nice addition.
Congrats! Those are two great pieces.
It would be awesome to have detailed photos of all the specimens of these, like is done for the old coins. I imagine these could be interesting to compare because all would be slightly different.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
Well darn it.... If my order is not going to be shipped for a couple of days.... I just ordered two more high relief winged liberties. That will show Dan I am serious.....LOL
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
@jwitten said:
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
She's a knockout! Mar 28 orders still haven't shipped...come to Daddy...
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
@jwitten said:
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
My feelings exactly. I have a few other DC medals on my radar before pulling the trigger on that 3 oz. I’m sure by the time I decide I want one, it will no longer be available. Then I’ll pay a ridiculous premium on eBay for one....yeah, that sounds about right.
Between two separate out-of-town visitors this week, and a blizzard, I'm delayed more than expected on shipping.
But as of today I am caught up on minting and I plan to ship all pending orders by Monday.
@dcarr said:
Between two separate out-of-town visitors this week, and a blizzard, I'm delayed more than expected on shipping.
But as of today I am caught up on minting and I plan to ship all pending orders by Monday.
Snow in Colorado? Who'd guessed? Visitors now ... they are totally unpredictable. Hope you didn't let them push the "700 mega-tonnage" button on my pieces -- might be upside-down, inside-out or worse or better
WhatEVER will be great! Thks for update!
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
My 1st order was not delivered yesterday. That fickle P.O. changed their mind. "Oh, it's actually leaving San Fran today, not leaving our local P.O. for delivery. We may get to it Friday or maybe Saturday. We'll see. Sorry about that." Every time I hear that I mumble "NO, you're NOT" I really dislike that throw away comment. A thoughtless insincere garbage phrase. They actually couldn't care less. I will be ready for a maybe delivery today 'cuz I have to sign for it.
@Kudbegud said:
My 1st order was not delivered yesterday. That fickle P.O. changed their mind. "Oh, it's actually leaving San Fran today, not leaving our local P.O. for delivery. We may get to it Friday or maybe Saturday. We'll see. Sorry about that." Every time I hear that I mumble "NO, you're NOT" I really dislike that throw away comment. A thoughtless insincere garbage phrase. They actually couldn't care less. I will be ready for a maybe delivery today 'cuz I have to sign for it.
I'm a neighbor of yours..... Up in Fort Bragg.
All my mail used to be routed through what my postal office called the "black hole" the Richmond sorting facility. Numerous packages or their contents went missing for me and then I had to play the mail recovery game. I have been waiting on the recovery of $3200 in items for 4 years now and they wont refund me. They no longer route through Richmond.... they couldnt fix the issue in the facility.
I ordered one on 4/1 thought about a second but went for an octagon yesterday. I'm still tempted though....> @Downtown1974 said:
@jwitten said:
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
My feelings exactly. I have a few other DC medals on my radar before pulling the trigger on that 3 oz. I’m sure by the time I decide I want one, it will no longer be available. Then I’ll pay a ridiculous premium on eBay for one....yeah, that sounds about right.
Thanks for update Dan. Not as concerned of when I will receive item- just more with item selling out before I can purchase. Which isn't a bad thing either...I like those low mintage offerings that are first come first serve. Those surprises are always welcome too!
First order just delivered
2019 (MAR) Merlin / Clark Gruber 3-troy-oz 999+ Poured Silver Bar
2019-D Apollo Astronaut prototype over-strike on 1969 Kennedy Half Dollar (40% silver)
2019-D Apollo Astronaut prototype over-strike on Eisenhower Dollar (40% silver)
2019 Clark Gruber "$60" OCTAGON OWL, 999 Colorado Silver, 1.5 Troy oz.
MMXIX (2019) Large Format Winged Saint-Gaudens "$100 Union", 999 Silver, 3+ Troy oz., Extra High Relief
@Downtown1974 said: @Kudbegud let’s see some pics! I need something to hold me over until my order gets here.
I bought this 10 minutes ago to keep myself from going into withdrawals ..... Its the .999 Gold version so no overstrike. I was hoping to get a graded one but this will do.
Nice shots @Kudbegud - your pics do the job! I'm saving my $ for ... more coins than $$ cameras! Honestly, phonecams have come a long way. Unless you're into photography as a separate hobby, it's not worth it. My digital SLR is growing dust anymore with my iPhone 7 (10+ is even better).
Now about that 3 oz'er...
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
@Downtown1974 said: @Kudbegud let’s see some pics! I need something to hold me over until my order gets here.
I bought this 10 minutes ago to keep myself from going into withdrawals ..... Its the .999 Gold version so no overstrike. I was hoping to get a graded one but this will do.
Congrats! At least getting it graded is easy to resolve!
@Akbeez said:
Nice shots @Kudbegud - your pics do the job! I'm saving my $ for ... more coins than $$ cameras! Honestly, phonecams have come a long way. Unless you're into photography as a separate hobby, it's not worth it. My digital SLR is growing dust anymore with my iPhone 7 (10+ is even better).
Now about that 3 oz'er...
Full disclosure, those are Dan's photos. My new camera is coming. I only wanted a compact camera that had great macro capability. I'm getting the Olympus TG5 Powerful Macro Modes
Shoot flowers, insects, and other wildlife in stunning detail. Microscope Mode lets you get as close as 1 cm to your subject, and Microscope Control Mode offers precise magnification in steps up to 44.5x. Focus Bracketing and Stacking Modes produce shots with exquisite sharpness and maximum depth of field.
And in considering the TG-5, I was reminded of a well-worn saying; 'it's not the camera, it's the photographer.' I happen to think there's an awful lot of truth in that, but even so, as a nerd as well as a photographer, there are usually lines in the sand (apologies) I don't cross. One of them is using a dedicated camera with a smartphone camera-sized sensor.
There are usually lines in the sand I don't cross.
But then again, my smartphone isn't rugged or waterproof, and doesn't have an optical zoom. Adding to that, the TG-5 offers Raw capture, GPS logging, good external controls, a more powerful flash anda crazy good macro mode. With the Tough, you've got a pretty compelling, compact package without the hassle of endless smartphone apps, clunky waterproof cases and fiddly lens attachments.
This wasn't a snap decision. I did lots of research of many camera makes and models. This one checked all the boxes and got good reviews from several sources I trust. DPReview being one of my favorites. I was into photography as a hobby but coins grabbed me again. Now the batteries for the camera I have are dead and I can't get replacements sent to me in Hawaii. A pesky little issue of Lithium-Ion batteries and bursting into flames. Picky, picky, picky.
I also have a 6", variable ring light on order.
As to the 100 gram, 3+ troy ounce, Large Format Winged Saint-Gaudens "$100 Union".....it is not only 50mm across but also 6mm thick. Edge lettering says "100 GRAMS .999 SILVER". It fills the 2.5 x 2.5 inch flip it comes in. A monster ! And a beauty too.
Mine shipped this morning as well. I’ll be out of town until Saturday so I had to put a hold on my mail. That means I have to wait until Monday to see my new medals.
@jwitten said:
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
Mintage now up to 96!
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
@jwitten said:
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
Bam! Here they come!! Chief, ya got an extra chair?
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
@jwitten said:
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
Mintage now up to 96!
Fantastic... this will cause this piece to have more exposure and put more money into Dan's business allowing him freedom to create.
Lets also not forget that some people with strong hands may have ordered more than 1, 2 , 3 or more. This makes that mintage number much less important for short term appreciation.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
@jwitten said:
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
Mintage now up to 96!
Fantastic... this will cause this piece to have more exposure and put more money into Dan's business allowing him freedom to create.
Lets also not forget that some people with strong hands may have ordered more than 1, 2 , 3 or more. This makes that mintage number much less important for short term appreciation.
High mintage is never a good thing, my friend. There is a finite number of people who collect Dan's work. That number may be growing, but going from 16 to 96 in population overnight is certainly not good for short term.
But if you are a collector and appreciate his work as art, than I agree. It doesn't matter how many are struck.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
@jwitten said:
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
Mintage now up to 96!
Fantastic... this will cause this piece to have more exposure and put more money into Dan's business allowing him freedom to create.
Lets also not forget that some people with strong hands may have ordered more than 1, 2 , 3 or more. This makes that mintage number much less important for short term appreciation.
High mintage is never a good thing, my friend. There is a finite number of people who collect Dan's work. That number may be growing, but going from 16 to 96 in population overnight is certainly not good for short term.
But if you are a collector and appreciate his work as art, than I agree. It doesn't matter how many are struck.
The basic premise is scarcity creates demand, I believe it to be much more complex. His 1964 peace dollar or the Stella are examples of demand exceeding expectations. His popularity is beginning to grow exponentially and any of his first works are sure to garner more attention.
If it continues to trend this way anything he strikes under a population of 500 will become retirement portfolio. Its not uncommon for me to see 2500% returns on my investments over a 5-10 year and I do believe that I have found another one that will do it.
I have been buying what I see as investment pieces off ebay, you can see the completed sales and who has dropped $10k+ in the last month or so on Dan Carr gold pieces and limited high graded slabbed strikes. I try to not buy strikes that where not a general offering to the public, or not part of a series that he has committed to over the years. But like all investments nothing is a sure thing and I encourage people to buy what they enjoy.
Whats also nice about the strike is that their will be variations in luster. I get bored with cookie cutter proofs, here is a screen shot from the Moonlight mint page.
Comments
I won the double-struck 1964D Morgan. I just got back from a business trip, and didn't want to count any chickens before they were hatched. I now have it in hand.
I went $100 over my initial bid, because I own one of Dan's double-struck Capped Bust half dollars, and it's one of my favorites from everything he's made. I thought the 1964D would make a nice addition.
Congrats! Those are two great pieces.
It would be awesome to have detailed photos of all the specimens of these, like is done for the old coins. I imagine these could be interesting to compare because all would be slightly different.
I just got email notice that my 3/27 order has shipped !
Same here. Woot!
I hope I get the same. I have one order late on the 27th and another made on the 28th. I am depositing some funds to make another later today.
Suspense. 28th here...nadda
Waiting!
Waiting! 
Waiting! 
28th for me too. Maybe ours ship tomorrow.
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
Well darn it.... If my order is not going to be shipped for a couple of days.... I just ordered two more high relief winged liberties. That will show Dan I am serious.....LOL
Now I have twice as much to look forward to.
Here are a couple of quick ones of the new Saint. One for context. One just a quick crappy iphone photo (sorry)
Man, I'm on the fence with those. I like them, for sure. But $200 is a lot for 3 ounces of silver. Then again, it shows a mintage of only 16 so far, so maybe others are thinking the same. If it stays low, I may pick one up.
Just over 3 oz... 100 grams
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She's a knockout! Mar 28 orders still haven't shipped...come to Daddy...
My order is out for delivery. Registered Mail no less. A knock knock knock should be happening any time now....within 2 hours is my guess.
My feelings exactly. I have a few other DC medals on my radar before pulling the trigger on that 3 oz. I’m sure by the time I decide I want one, it will no longer be available. Then I’ll pay a ridiculous premium on eBay for one....yeah, that sounds about right.
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
Between two separate out-of-town visitors this week, and a blizzard, I'm delayed more than expected on shipping.
But as of today I am caught up on minting and I plan to ship all pending orders by Monday.
Snow in Colorado? Who'd guessed? Visitors now ... they are totally unpredictable. Hope you didn't let them push the "700 mega-tonnage" button on my pieces -- might be upside-down, inside-out or worse
or better 
WhatEVER will be great! Thks for update!
My 1st order was not delivered yesterday. That fickle P.O. changed their mind. "Oh, it's actually leaving San Fran today, not leaving our local P.O. for delivery. We may get to it Friday or maybe Saturday. We'll see. Sorry about that." Every time I hear that I mumble "NO, you're NOT" I really dislike that throw away comment. A thoughtless insincere garbage phrase. They actually couldn't care less. I will be ready for a maybe delivery today 'cuz I have to sign for it.
I'm a neighbor of yours..... Up in Fort Bragg.
All my mail used to be routed through what my postal office called the "black hole" the Richmond sorting facility. Numerous packages or their contents went missing for me and then I had to play the mail recovery game. I have been waiting on the recovery of $3200 in items for 4 years now and they wont refund me. They no longer route through Richmond.... they couldnt fix the issue in the facility.
I ordered one on 4/1 thought about a second but went for an octagon yesterday. I'm still tempted though....> @Downtown1974 said:
Thanks for update Dan. Not as concerned of when I will receive item- just more with item selling out before I can purchase. Which isn't a bad thing either...I like those low mintage offerings that are first come first serve.
Those surprises are always welcome too!
First order just delivered
2019 (MAR) Merlin / Clark Gruber 3-troy-oz 999+ Poured Silver Bar
2019-D Apollo Astronaut prototype over-strike on 1969 Kennedy Half Dollar (40% silver)
2019-D Apollo Astronaut prototype over-strike on Eisenhower Dollar (40% silver)
2019 Clark Gruber "$60" OCTAGON OWL, 999 Colorado Silver, 1.5 Troy oz.
MMXIX (2019) Large Format Winged Saint-Gaudens "$100 Union", 999 Silver, 3+ Troy oz., Extra High Relief
All superior, all perfect.
Thank you Dan
@Kudbegud let’s see some pics! I need something to hold me over until my order gets here.
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
I bought this 10 minutes ago to keep myself from going into withdrawals ..... Its the .999 Gold version so no overstrike. I was hoping to get a graded one but this will do.
I'm not happy with the photos from my phone. I'm ordering a camera with good macro mode.
These are from Dan's page in the same order listed above
Nice shots @Kudbegud - your pics do the job! I'm saving my $ for ... more coins than $$ cameras! Honestly, phonecams have come a long way. Unless you're into photography as a separate hobby, it's not worth it. My digital SLR is growing dust anymore with my iPhone 7 (10+ is even better).
Now about that 3 oz'er...
Congrats! At least getting it graded is easy to resolve!
Full disclosure, those are Dan's photos. My new camera is coming. I only wanted a compact camera that had great macro capability. I'm getting the Olympus TG5
Powerful Macro Modes
Shoot flowers, insects, and other wildlife in stunning detail. Microscope Mode lets you get as close as 1 cm to your subject, and Microscope Control Mode offers precise magnification in steps up to 44.5x. Focus Bracketing and Stacking Modes produce shots with exquisite sharpness and maximum depth of field.
From DPReview - https://dpreview.com/articles/2948845724/olympus-tg-5-is-the-best-rugged-compact-you-can-buy-right-now
And in considering the TG-5, I was reminded of a well-worn saying; 'it's not the camera, it's the photographer.' I happen to think there's an awful lot of truth in that, but even so, as a nerd as well as a photographer, there are usually lines in the sand (apologies) I don't cross. One of them is using a dedicated camera with a smartphone camera-sized sensor.
There are usually lines in the sand I don't cross.
But then again, my smartphone isn't rugged or waterproof, and doesn't have an optical zoom. Adding to that, the TG-5 offers Raw capture, GPS logging, good external controls, a more powerful flash and a crazy good macro mode. With the Tough, you've got a pretty compelling, compact package without the hassle of endless smartphone apps, clunky waterproof cases and fiddly lens attachments.
This wasn't a snap decision. I did lots of research of many camera makes and models. This one checked all the boxes and got good reviews from several sources I trust. DPReview being one of my favorites. I was into photography as a hobby but coins grabbed me again. Now the batteries for the camera I have are dead and I can't get replacements sent to me in Hawaii. A pesky little issue of Lithium-Ion batteries and bursting into flames. Picky, picky, picky.
I also have a 6", variable ring light on order.
As to the 100 gram, 3+ troy ounce, Large Format Winged Saint-Gaudens "$100 Union".....it is not only 50mm across but also 6mm thick. Edge lettering says "100 GRAMS .999 SILVER". It fills the 2.5 x 2.5 inch flip it comes in. A monster ! And a beauty too.
Email Notice
My second order has shipped.
Every one waiting for theirs - watch your email.
All my orders were shipped out this AM! Ohhhh Boy!
Mine shipped this morning as well. I’ll be out of town until Saturday so I had to put a hold on my mail. That means I have to wait until Monday to see my new medals.
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
Mine are on the way..... Oh man, Should I order more?
Of course ! Get a dozen of each Ha Ha Ha. Just kidding.
Mintage now up to 96!
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I saw that today too... I'm out
I have two separate orders shipped today, all are Merlin the magician silver bar and Apollo overstrikes.
Received my notice too- have the owl, and the 3 oz. high relief on the way.
Bam! Here they come!! Chief, ya got an extra chair?
Fantastic... this will cause this piece to have more exposure and put more money into Dan's business allowing him freedom to create.
Lets also not forget that some people with strong hands may have ordered more than 1, 2 , 3 or more. This makes that mintage number much less important for short term appreciation.
Can't beat 'em, join 'em.
High mintage is never a good thing, my friend. There is a finite number of people who collect Dan's work. That number may be growing, but going from 16 to 96 in population overnight is certainly not good for short term.
But if you are a collector and appreciate his work as art, than I agree. It doesn't matter how many are struck.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
The basic premise is scarcity creates demand, I believe it to be much more complex. His 1964 peace dollar or the Stella are examples of demand exceeding expectations. His popularity is beginning to grow exponentially and any of his first works are sure to garner more attention.
If it continues to trend this way anything he strikes under a population of 500 will become retirement portfolio. Its not uncommon for me to see 2500% returns on my investments over a 5-10 year and I do believe that I have found another one that will do it.
I have been buying what I see as investment pieces off ebay, you can see the completed sales and who has dropped $10k+ in the last month or so on Dan Carr gold pieces and limited high graded slabbed strikes. I try to not buy strikes that where not a general offering to the public, or not part of a series that he has committed to over the years. But like all investments nothing is a sure thing and I encourage people to buy what they enjoy.
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***On Dan's Site...…...Maximum mintage limited to 100.....
Dang, now I know he is reading our posts and responding accordingly.... haha. Now I may have to pick one up. Darn you Daniel Carr!!! lol
I am very glad to hear that.
Of course!
Would you not be entertained by a thread entitled "The very latest from Sir Jwitten?"
I do like the piece. What's not to like about a 3oz, high relief hunk of silver? Just liked it a little more when the mintage was in the teens.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Whats also nice about the strike is that their will be variations in luster. I get bored with cookie cutter proofs, here is a screen shot from the Moonlight mint page.
It makes sense for a "Union" ($100 symbolic face value) piece to be about 100 grams and have a mintage of 100.
There will probably be a proof-like silver version next, and the plan is for it to have a slightly lower price and a somewhat higher mintage.
Hey Dan, any plans for another run of the Thomas Elder store card overstrikes?
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.