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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gluggo said:
    Dang Chief that's peeeeerty! hey I just realize thats right up your ally. Anybody know which Chief that is in the coin. Looks like he has his war paint on!

    .Gluggo, I'm not certain but I heard that that Chief resembles________.

    Any guesses?

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    GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sitting Bull!

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gluggo said:
    Dang Chief that's peeeeerty! hey I just realize thats right up your ally. Anybody know which Chief that is in the coin. Looks like he has his war paint on!

    The portrait is not of any particular person or tribe.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    Since we are posting our Dan Carr grades,,,, just got these today from ICG.

    Year Denomination Grade Variety
    2014 Token MS69 PL .1 Oz. Gold Prospector
    2014 Token MS69PL .1 Oz Indian/Eagle
    No Date Round MS70 .1 Oz. Pratt 2 1/2 Design
    2002 Token MS69 Indianapolis Vortex
    2016 Token MS70 Clarke Gruber Liberty/Owl
    2016 Token MS70 Clarke Gruber Liberty/Owl
    2001-D Token MS67PL Astronaut Dollar,Brass
    2001-D Token MS69PL Astronaut Dollar,Brass
    2019 Token MS69 Astronaut Concept Dollar
    2019 Token MS70 Astronaut Concept Dollar
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Brass
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Brass
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Silver
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Silver
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS69 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1934) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Gold
    (1910-D) Token MS69RD O/S Indian Cent
    (1910-D) Token MS69PL O/S Cent
    (1910-D) Token MS70RD O/S Indian Cent,Satin

    I am very pleased with these grades and the fast turnaround time. :D

    Is that the overstruck gold, or a different one? Have any pictures?

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    Since we are posting our Dan Carr grades,,,, just got these today from ICG.

    Year Denomination Grade Variety
    2014 Token MS69 PL .1 Oz. Gold Prospector
    2014 Token MS69PL .1 Oz Indian/Eagle
    No Date Round MS70 .1 Oz. Pratt 2 1/2 Design
    2002 Token MS69 Indianapolis Vortex
    2016 Token MS70 Clarke Gruber Liberty/Owl
    2016 Token MS70 Clarke Gruber Liberty/Owl
    2001-D Token MS67PL Astronaut Dollar,Brass
    2001-D Token MS69PL Astronaut Dollar,Brass
    2019 Token MS69 Astronaut Concept Dollar
    2019 Token MS70 Astronaut Concept Dollar
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Brass
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Brass
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Silver
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Silver
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS69 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1934) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Gold
    (1910-D) Token MS69RD O/S Indian Cent
    (1910-D) Token MS69PL O/S Cent
    (1910-D) Token MS70RD O/S Indian Cent,Satin

    I am very pleased with these grades and the fast turnaround time. :D

    Is that the overstruck gold, or a different one? Have any pictures?

    Yes it is the overstruck $20 Double Eagle.

    No photos, they just mailed them today.

    I did post a photo back in the thread where we were tracking sales to Forum members but is was raw.

    GrandAm :)
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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:

    @jwitten said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    Since we are posting our Dan Carr grades,,,, just got these today from ICG.

    Year Denomination Grade Variety
    2014 Token MS69 PL .1 Oz. Gold Prospector
    2014 Token MS69PL .1 Oz Indian/Eagle
    No Date Round MS70 .1 Oz. Pratt 2 1/2 Design
    2002 Token MS69 Indianapolis Vortex
    2016 Token MS70 Clarke Gruber Liberty/Owl
    2016 Token MS70 Clarke Gruber Liberty/Owl
    2001-D Token MS67PL Astronaut Dollar,Brass
    2001-D Token MS69PL Astronaut Dollar,Brass
    2019 Token MS69 Astronaut Concept Dollar
    2019 Token MS70 Astronaut Concept Dollar
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Brass
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Brass
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Silver
    (1933) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Silver
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS69 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1918) Token MS70 HR Peace,Broken Sword
    (1934) Token MS70 St.Gaudens,Gold
    (1910-D) Token MS69RD O/S Indian Cent
    (1910-D) Token MS69PL O/S Cent
    (1910-D) Token MS70RD O/S Indian Cent,Satin

    I am very pleased with these grades and the fast turnaround time. :D

    Is that the overstruck gold, or a different one? Have any pictures?

    Yes it is the overstruck $20 Double Eagle.

    No photos, they just mailed them today.

    I did post a photo back in the thread where we were tracking sales to Forum members but is was raw.

    I wonder why they called the other ones O/S but not the gold?

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I had copy & pasted these grades from my e-mail but it didn't format right in my post so I had to rearrange everything to make it look right.

    In checking the only ones they actually listed as overstruck were the 3 Indian Head Cents.

    I will see what the label actually says in a few days.

    I made a mistake in my editing but all the grades are correct.

    GrandAm :)
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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ahh, I was thinking Chief Minter depicted...

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I may have to send off my Brass & Silver Double Eagle D. Carr pieces to ICG, I like the design and durability of their holder.

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    renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grandam, nice score on the '34 Overstrike.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the reasons I started collection Carr was because of the simplicity of it. It was romantic. No grading just appreciation for the coin/ medal. I wish grading services would have slabbed them without grade as PCGS does with some restrikes

    I certainly wouldn’t pay more for a higher graded Carr coin as struck

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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The only reason I have mine graded is for protection. I see lots of bad looking pieces still in flips, probably poor storage habits. I have MS68-70 on all my pieces, two of the 68s look 70 to me. So I'm happy with them in plastic without spots or scratches. My favorite Carr piece is a 68.

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that I just purchased the last of the 1918 Broken Sword Peace Dollars. :|

    GrandAm :)
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    1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    I believe that I just purchased the last of the 1918 Broken Sword Peace Dollars. :|

    their still available ?

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    GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    I believe that I just purchased the last of the 1918 Broken Sword Peace Dollars. :|

    Still available and congrats on your grades back sounds like everybody did well. I will eventually send mine in but right now to busy working and buying.

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did you actually try putting one in the shopping cart?

    When I do it says none available.

    GrandAm :)
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    1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 26, 2018 2:27PM

    @GRANDAM said:
    Did you actually try putting one in the shopping cart?

    When I do it says none available.

    ok your right

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 26, 2018 2:32PM

    I wonder what the next creation will be from Dan?

    I would really like to see the $2 1/2 Gold Indian as jwitten has suggested.

    Then a $5 & $10,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    GrandAm :)
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    renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    I wonder what the next creation will be from Dan?

    I would really like to see the $2 1/2 Gold Indian as jwitten has suggested.

    Then a $5 & $10,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    I asked Dan a while back if he could. The fact that there’s no rim makes it a diffult overstrike but he said he’ll keep trying. I suggested a 1907 &2 1/2.

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am with Mark above; I really don't care the grade if the coin is "as struck". I like them - his coins, etc. within reason (although I may have lost it with the Confederate gold bit!).

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Got this silver piece to join the copper pieces I had. On my next submission to ANACS I'll get them to reholder it and put the obverse facing out.



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    Mfriday4962Mfriday4962 Posts: 153 ✭✭✭

    They all look great!

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Daniel Carr does beautiful work! I have a few of his designs. I learned an interesting characteristic of the overstruck St.Gaudens gold coins while examining @GRANDAM's coins that make them special above their beauty and limited mintage.

    I cannot express my surprise as I examined the coin and thought to myself that Mr. Carr had "nailed" his duplication of a genuine edge including the style, die polish, and segmented collar! His edge was better than I'd ever seen on a struck counterfeit! A call to Mr. Carr proved to be informative. His issue using a genuine $20 are struck out of collar so the edge of the overstruck coin is as the original.

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    1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2018 6:57AM

    I know I Love mine ! And like everybody knows only 57 people can own one ! except one lucky guy who owns two !

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    Daniel Carr does beautiful work! I have a few of his designs. I learned an interesting characteristic of the overstruck St.Gaudens gold coins while examining @GRANDAM's coins that make them special above their beauty and limited mintage.

    I cannot express my surprise as I examined the coin and thought to myself that Mr. Carr had "nailed" his duplication of a genuine edge including the style, die polish, and segmented collar! His edge was better than I'd ever seen on a struck counterfeit! A call to Mr. Carr proved to be informative. His issue using a genuine $20 are struck out of collar so the edge of the overstruck coin is as the original.

    Yes, he said this on his site too. I think he said they are actually slightly larger in diameter than the originals because of this.

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    1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2018 7:34AM


    The broad-striking increases the diameter from the original 34mm to about 35mm.

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could some one please send me a photo of the edge lettering?

    I want to keep it with my coin. 2x2 would be the perfect size.’

    Thanks,,,,,

    GrandAm :)
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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1940coupe said:
    I know I Love mine ! And like everybody knows only 57 people can own one ! except one lucky guy who owns two !

    Actually there are (2) people who own (2) ea of these $20 Gold Double Eagles.

    GrandAm :)
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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You know I can't stop looking at these coins. They are Beautiful and accurately graded.
    The MS70's are flawless and I see just a small hit in one spot or another on the MS69 Coins.

    GrandAm :)
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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    You know I can't stop looking at these coins. They are Beautiful and accurately graded.
    The MS70's are flawless and I see just a small hit in one spot or another on the MS69 Coins.

    I can't blame you, they are very nice eye candy.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I showed one of the gold saints to a major gold coin dealer and he was very impressed.

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    When did ANACS start giving MS70's on Dan Carr items?

    Just after ICG did. They didn't want to lose business to someone that would hand out a higher grade. I am waiting for the first MS70+ to come out.

    thefinn
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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:

    @1940coupe said:
    I know I Love mine ! And like everybody knows only 57 people can own one ! except one lucky guy who owns two !

    Actually there are (2) people who own (2) ea of these $20 Gold Double Eagles.

    of the two people who had two the one said on your post they bought two and was going to give one to someone else thats why I didnt count

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bullsitter said:

    That M 70+ is one the stupidest grades I ever saw. The guys at ANACS are better than that. I should be embarrassed.

    In the decades of TPGS existence, each feeds off the other's ideas. Get ready...More "PERFECT PLUS (what?)" grades are coming. LOL!

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2018 1:55PM

    LOL, LOL Sorry it is too funny and very sad at the same time. I suggest you all support ANACS as we do not want to lose them.

    Oops! Although PCGS has nothing to worry about, I hope this unsolicited advertisement does not get me in trouble with our host.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @Bullsitter said:

    That M 70+ is one the stupidest grades I ever saw. The guys at ANACS are better than that. I should be embarrassed.

    In the decades of TPGS existence, each feeds off the other's ideas. Get ready...More "PERFECT PLUS (what?)" grades are coming. LOL!

    Think it would gold bean???? :D

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    LOL, LOL Sorry it is too funny and very sad at the same time. I suggest you all support ANACS as we do not want to lose them.

    Oops! Although PCGS has nothing to worry about, I hope this unsolicited advertisement does not get me in trouble with our host.

    :D I think Bullsitter gotcha.

    I think the "+" was "photo-shopped":

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Okay Bullsitter. That does it! You're on Double Secret Probation!

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    I knew it would happen.
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    GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    n> @dcarr said:

    @Insider2 said:
    LOL, LOL Sorry it is too funny and very sad at the same time. I suggest you all support ANACS as we do not want to lose them.

    Oops! Although PCGS has nothing to worry about, I hope this unsolicited advertisement does not get me in trouble with our host.

    :D I think Bullsitter gotcha.

    I think the "+" was "photo-shopped":

    Priceless!

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2018 3:04PM

    As I understand it ANACS still doesn't give the MS70 grade to the re-strike coins,,,,, only medals.

    I am sorry but I sent 6 coins to ANACS once and when I saw those holders I immediately broke the coins out.

    Do not like that holder.

    GrandAm :)
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    COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    As I understand it ANACS still doesn't give the MS70 grade to the re-strike coins,,,,, only medals.

    Tokens too.

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    TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well it's not a 69 >:)

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