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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,808 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still like some of Dan's work, but let me tell ya, almost every one of his gold coins is spotting, not in a good way.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    I still like some of Dan's work, but let me tell ya, almost every one of his gold coins is spotting, not in a good way.

    Can you share some pics? Perhaps Dan or others can provide some recommendations on how to address them?

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,808 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've been getting rid of them at a loss as the spots show up, but I can put up some pics when time permits. It's been pretty disappointing, even tho' I know it's the nature of the beast when the refining isn't very good.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would like to see some pictures...of the spotting.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,501 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    I've been getting rid of them at a loss as the spots show up, but I can put up some pics when time permits. It's been pretty disappointing, even tho' I know it's the nature of the beast when the refining isn't very good.

    Are they copper spots?

    GrandAm :)
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    I still like some of Dan's work, but let me tell ya, almost every one of his gold coins is spotting, not in a good way.

    Not a single one of mine has spotted. How are you storing them?

  • PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭

    The only DC gold I have are the 1\10 ounce, I have multiples of every issue.
    What are the coins you have that spotted?

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, that is strange as I have gold dating back through 2011 and NONE have turned or spotted. I would think you could hit this with a fairly strong acid such as EZ EST dip & would take care of it - or Dan's own favorite Tarn-X (sp?)/

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  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have 2009, 2011, 2012 and 2016 gold that is spot free.

  • 1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    I still like some of Dan's work, but let me tell ya, almost every one of his gold coins is spotting, not in a good way.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Daniel-Carr-Proof-like-1-4-oz-999-Clark-Gruber-Gold-Half-Eagle/162739165864?hash=item25e4029aa8:g:4AoAAOSw44BYTCiY
    are not the three on eBay right now yours they dont seem to have spots at least you dont mention in your description?

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @7Jaguars said:
    Yes, that is strange as I have gold dating back through 2011 and NONE have turned or spotted. I would think you could hit this with a fairly strong acid such as EZ EST dip & would take care of it - or Dan's own favorite Tarn-X (sp?)/

    For the last few years I have been fabricating ALL of my gold blanks. Before that, I would get some (already fabricated) from Dave Emslie. At one point (when I was getting blanks from Dave Emslie), I started sandblasting and wire-brushing every gold blank that I used (still do). Those are much less likely to ever develop any spotting.

    A spotted 999 fine gold coin with "copper spots" can often be cured by soaking the coin in "Tarn-X" (or similar "dip" type cleaner) for 5 minutes or more. But don't use dip solution on these gold coins if the solution was previously used to clean tarnished and/or dirty silver coins. As long as the solution is relatively fresh, a 999 gold coin could be left in it for several hours or more with no detriment to the coin.

  • VoyageurVoyageur Posts: 351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would this be a satisfactory process (perhaps for a short period like on silver) to use on one of your Brass 63mm 2006-2007 Colorado Ski Country Gold Pass Tokens without damaging the enamel ?

    Dan Fan
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Voyageur said:
    Would this be a satisfactory process (perhaps for a short period like on silver) to use on one of your Brass 63mm 2006-2007 Colorado Ski Country Gold Pass Tokens without damaging the enamel ?

    Dipping will not affect the enamel.
    However, there is no guarantee as to the overall results.
    It looks like something in the enamel, or the application process of the enamel, has affected the brass around it.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyone else notice that the 2017 1.5 oz Owls have not been too popular? It doesn't seem like anyone is buying them in the secondary market, even around issue price.

    Even the 2016 version only has 1 sale in the last few months on ebay. Have the higher mintages on these meant everyone who wanted one got it originally?

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe people are keeping and not selling because they like 'em.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2017 7:12PM

    @renman95 said:
    Maybe people are keeping and not selling because they like 'em.

    There are active listings on ebay and I have been trying to move some as well, but there have been no sales in the past few months (even near issue price).

    Edit: I do think that many of the buyers are holding certain pieces for their collection, especially the low mintage items and the earlier overstrikes (i.e. 1964 Peace Dollar, Bust Halfs, etc).

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I've found they are not as popular. Of course, this is the year I stocked up, haha. I think he had a limit in previous years how many you could buy (maybe 2?). When this years came out, I bought a bunch, hoping that was a fluke that there were no limits. Turns out he just bumped up the mintage. Oops, joke was on me, lol.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    Yes, I've found they are not as popular. Of course, this is the year I stocked up, haha. I think he had a limit in previous years how many you could buy (maybe 2?). When this years came out, I bought a bunch, hoping that was a fluke that there were no limits. Turns out he just bumped up the mintage. Oops, joke was on me, lol.

    Total mintage for the 2017 silver Owl octagon was 174, somewhat higher than the 2016 mintage of 138.
    However, the issue price for 2017 was a bit lower at $110, compared to $125 for 2016.

    There were some complaints when the 2017s came out because some people felt that the "open ended" mintage would result in much higher numbers. In reality, the mintage was not really open-ended. It was still limited to the number of orders placed within a certain span of time. But there was no pre-announced mintage number.

    It was definitely a lot easier to manage the 2017 issue compared to 2016. The 2016 issue was over-subscribed and all the orders came in at once. For 2017, the orders were spread out over a little longer span of time, and I didn't have to deal with any shortages when filling the orders.

  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭

    First off as an add to the above conversation regarding the spotting of DC gold coins I would like to say that I can’t think of any in my collection that show any signs of spotting either and I have a number of different issues , sizes and years . Some developed some natural light toning, but in an attractive way.
    The only pieces that I have ever had some issues with over the years have been the silver ones and that could be mostly my own fault with storage . I kept them in their original flips( not air tight) and originally stored some in wooden cigar boxes thinking that would be a good thing to keep out any moisture.
    Some developed dark toning at the top of the flip on the rim area, but not all and I quit storing them in that fashion and placed them in a safe deposit box after that . Dan did explain a quick fix, but I just never took the time to remedy the situation in that way . Some I sold as described that way and some will be described as such in the future should they be sold .

    Now on to the next post :wink:

  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭





    Here is part of my large DC collection that will soon be hitting the BST or everyone’s favorite internet marketplace over the next 30 days .

    Definitely some reluctance as it took years and many hours to assemble this collection.

    I haven’t decided exactly what all I am willing to let go of yet , so please just keep your eyes open if you are interested in building your collection .
    . I can tell you though that I was one of the largest eBay secondary sellers of Dan’s work, a great supporter and an eventual friend even though we have never met in person nor spoke on the phone .

    I tried for years to find each of his issues and can tell you that is a daunting task when you are located on the East Coast and do not attend coin shows .

    There will most definitely be some really rare pieces and sets offered .

    Maybe when it’s all over I’ll treat myself to something special like a Classic El Camino and drive around like the Big Dog DC :)

    Anyways for now this is my situation as I am working on a project that requires some funding , but hopefully I will return to fill in the collection again one day soon .

    Happy Hunting and signing off :smiley:

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bigpoppas said:




    Here is part of my large DC collection that will soon be hitting the BST or everyone’s favorite internet marketplace over the next 30 days .

    Definitely some reluctance as it took years and many hours to assemble this collection.

    I haven’t decided exactly what all I am willing to let go of yet , so please just keep your eyes open if you are interested in building your collection .
    . I can tell you though that I was one of the largest eBay secondary sellers of Dan’s work, a great supporter and an eventual friend even though we have never met in person nor spoke on the phone .

    I tried for years to find each of his issues and can tell you that is a daunting task when you are located on the East Coast and do not attend coin shows .

    There will most definitely be some really rare pieces and sets offered .

    Maybe when it’s all over I’ll treat myself to something special like a Classic El Camino and drive around like the Big Dog DC :)

    Anyways for now this is my situation as I am working on a project that requires some funding , but hopefully I will return to fill in the collection again one day soon .

    Happy Hunting and signing off :smiley:

    Wow! Why are you selling now?

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:

    @Bigpoppas said:




    Here is part of my large DC collection that will soon be hitting the BST or everyone’s favorite internet marketplace over the next 30 days .

    Definitely some reluctance as it took years and many hours to assemble this collection.

    I haven’t decided exactly what all I am willing to let go of yet , so please just keep your eyes open if you are interested in building your collection .
    . I can tell you though that I was one of the largest eBay secondary sellers of Dan’s work, a great supporter and an eventual friend even though we have never met in person nor spoke on the phone .

    I tried for years to find each of his issues and can tell you that is a daunting task when you are located on the East Coast and do not attend coin shows .

    There will most definitely be some really rare pieces and sets offered .

    Maybe when it’s all over I’ll treat myself to something special like a Classic El Camino and drive around like the Big Dog DC :)

    Anyways for now this is my situation as I am working on a project that requires some funding , but hopefully I will return to fill in the collection again one day soon .

    Happy Hunting and signing off :smiley:

    Wow! Why are you selling now?

    From his post, it looks like he is working on a new project that needs funding.

    To me this could be good and bad. On one hand, a bunch of fresh Carr items will enter the market and allow others to fill some holes in their collection. On the other hand, this could be the beginning of the end as a big collector leaves the market (seeing signs of prices going down).

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I doubt one guy makes a market, but who knows.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @jwitten said:
    Yes, I've found they are not as popular. Of course, this is the year I stocked up, haha. I think he had a limit in previous years how many you could buy (maybe 2?). When this years came out, I bought a bunch, hoping that was a fluke that there were no limits. Turns out he just bumped up the mintage. Oops, joke was on me, lol.

    Total mintage for the 2017 silver Owl octagon was 174, somewhat higher than the 2016 mintage of 138.
    However, the issue price for 2017 was a bit lower at $110, compared to $125 for 2016.

    There were some complaints when the 2017s came out because some people felt that the "open ended" mintage would result in much higher numbers. In reality, the mintage was not really open-ended. It was still limited to the number of orders placed within a certain span of time. But there was no pre-announced mintage number.

    It was definitely a lot easier to manage the 2017 issue compared to 2016. The 2016 issue was over-subscribed and all the orders came in at once. For 2017, the orders were spread out over a little longer span of time, and I didn't have to deal with any shortages when filling the orders.

    Those are some fair points in comparing the 2016 and 2017. And I'm sure that the open ended mintage helped mitigate disappointment from the dedicated collectors who wanted to acquire one at issue price.

    I did mention though that the 2016 has been almost as weak as the 2017 in recent sales (the only sale was around $190 in the past few months on eBay). And the similar mintages help explain why that is the case. The 2016 is still performing slightly better though due to it selling out quicker.

    The real winner is the 2015 1.5 oz Owl. That one shows a final mintage of 95 and a much lower issue price of $75. These seem to be held in strong hands as they haven't appeared on eBay lately (there is currently only one, an Anacs MS 70, listed at $700 or best offer).

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:

    @renman95 said:
    Maybe people are keeping and not selling because they like 'em.

    There are active listings on ebay and I have been trying to move some as well, but there have been no sales in the past few months (even near issue price).

    Edit: I do think that many of the buyers are holding certain pieces for their collection, especially the low mintage items and the earlier overstrikes (i.e. 1964 Peace Dollar, Bust Halfs, etc).

    My mistake. I was referring to the gold 'owls'. Have you seen any of them on the 'block'?

  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd like to buy your 2006 10th Mountain Division 25c struck in 1/4 Ounce Silver.

    Lindy

    @Bigpoppas said:




    Here is part of my large DC collection that will soon be hitting the BST or everyone’s favorite internet marketplace over the next 30 days .

    Definitely some reluctance as it took years and many hours to assemble this collection.

    I haven’t decided exactly what all I am willing to let go of yet , so please just keep your eyes open if you are interested in building your collection .
    . I can tell you though that I was one of the largest eBay secondary sellers of Dan’s work, a great supporter and an eventual friend even though we have never met in person nor spoke on the phone .

    I tried for years to find each of his issues and can tell you that is a daunting task when you are located on the East Coast and do not attend coin shows .

    There will most definitely be some really rare pieces and sets offered .

    Maybe when it’s all over I’ll treat myself to something special like a Classic El Camino and drive around like the Big Dog DC :)

    Anyways for now this is my situation as I am working on a project that requires some funding , but hopefully I will return to fill in the collection again one day soon .

    Happy Hunting and signing off :smiley:

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2017 6:57AM

    Nice Dan Carr Collection. I just recently started buying the Daniel coins you can PM me if your ever.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @renman95 said:

    @U1chicago said:

    @renman95 said:
    Maybe people are keeping and not selling because they like 'em.

    There are active listings on ebay and I have been trying to move some as well, but there have been no sales in the past few months (even near issue price).

    Edit: I do think that many of the buyers are holding certain pieces for their collection, especially the low mintage items and the earlier overstrikes (i.e. 1964 Peace Dollar, Bust Halfs, etc).

    My mistake. I was referring to the gold 'owls'. Have you seen any of them on the 'block'?

    I have not followed the gold closely, but I would think those are being held on by collectors. Plus considering the price of these, ebay is likely not the best venue.

  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭

    @LindyS said:
    I'd like to buy your 2006 10th Mountain Division 25c struck in 1/4 Ounce Silver.

    Lindy

    Sorry Lindy, but I don’t think I’ve ever owned or even seen that piece offered on the secondary market .
    Jackpot G&S may have offered one at one time but I’m not quite sure .
    Tough piece for sure .

    I would talk to members of the Colorado Springs CC who seem to hold many of Dan’s earliest stuff .

  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought it was yours. One was posted here at CU with an image maybe 3 or 4 months ago.

    Good Luck with your sales. I will follow them at fleabay with great interest.

    Lindy

    @Bigpoppas said:

    @LindyS said:
    I'd like to buy your 2006 10th Mountain Division 25c struck in 1/4 Ounce Silver.

    Lindy

    Sorry Lindy, but I don’t think I’ve ever owned or even seen that piece offered on the secondary market .
    Jackpot G&S may have offered one at one time but I’m not quite sure .
    Tough piece for sure .

    I would talk to members of the Colorado Springs CC who seem to hold many of Dan’s earliest stuff .

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2017 11:43PM

    Sorry to hear you're selling @Bigpoppas! I definitely enjoyed your passion and posts here. I'm glad to hear you will be keeping some pieces and look forward to returning to collecting. In the meanwhile, I hope you'll continue posting here. Good luck with your sales and project!

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ebay Bucks purchase.

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Update on my "pocket Peace." It's been close to 3 months now. The most dramatic difference was in the first week or two when it went from BU to what you see below in the first set of images. Now it's slow going but as you can see she's getting there. Hopefully she'll be a p01 by the time Dan releases the 2021 version lol

    Mid August 2017:


    Mid November 2017:


    The more you VAM..
  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:
    Update on my "pocket Peace." It's been close to 3 months now. The most dramatic difference was in the first week or two when it went from BU to what you see below in the first set of images. Now it's slow going but as you can see she's getting there. Hopefully she'll be a p01 by the time Dan releases the 2021 version lol

    Mid August 2017:


    Mid November 2017:


    Those feathers are wearing down fast, looking good.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2021? Run some marathons each week

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • 1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭

    For you new Dan Carr collectors who dont know here is a list from his site of fantasy over strikes he has made I myself have enjoyed finding everything on this list ! http://www.moonlightmint.com/dc-coin_over-struck_list.htm

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1940coupe said:
    For you new Dan Carr collectors who dont know here is a list from his site of fantasy over strikes he has made I myself have enjoyed finding everything on this list ! http://www.moonlightmint.com/dc-coin_over-struck_list.htm

    Thank you that was a real helpful link appreciate you sharing your work!.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My order of 15 Carr pieces at ANACS is finally ready to ship. They received it Sept 28th. Not one single 70. I think I'm about done with ANACS.

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    My order of 15 Carr pieces at ANACS is finally ready to ship. They received it Sept 28th. Not one single 70. I think I'm about done with ANACS.

    Why? 6 weeks isn't that long and 70 is very hard to impossible to get on most issues.

    The more you VAM..
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:
    My order of 15 Carr pieces at ANACS is finally ready to ship. They received it Sept 28th. Not one single 70. I think I'm about done with ANACS.

    Why? 6 weeks isn't that long and 70 is very hard to impossible to get on most issues.

    It's even slower than pcgs, which is known for being slow. And I would expect at least one 70 out of 15 coins. If pcgs can slap 70's on palladiums with rim damage, I don't see how some of these aren't 70's, when I can't see any imperfections.

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2017 12:09PM

    @jwitten said:

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:
    My order of 15 Carr pieces at ANACS is finally ready to ship. They received it Sept 28th. Not one single 70. I think I'm about done with ANACS.

    Why? 6 weeks isn't that long and 70 is very hard to impossible to get on most issues.

    It's even slower than pcgs, which is known for being slow. And I would expect at least one 70 out of 15 coins. If pcgs can slap 70's on palladiums with rim damage, I don't see how some of these aren't 70's, when I can't see any imperfections.

    Well, wait times are typically a touch longer than normal during popular specials and 70 is quite tough to get. Most ANACS 70's I've seen were gold or medals and I've never seen an overstike in ANACS 70. If you want 70's go with ICG but they give it out so often that they sell for less than an ANACS 69.

    The more you VAM..
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:
    My order of 15 Carr pieces at ANACS is finally ready to ship. They received it Sept 28th. Not one single 70. I think I'm about done with ANACS.

    Why? 6 weeks isn't that long and 70 is very hard to impossible to get on most issues.

    It's even slower than pcgs, which is known for being slow. And I would expect at least one 70 out of 15 coins. If pcgs can slap 70's on palladiums with rim damage, I don't see how some of these aren't 70's, when I can't see any imperfections.

    Well, wait times are typically a touch longer than normal during popular specials and 70 is quite though to get. Most ANACS 70's I've seen were gold or medals and I've never seen an overstike in ANACS 70. If you want 70's go with ICG but they give it out so often that they sell for less than an ANACS 69.

    I think it may be ANACS' standard policy to never give a 70 on an over-strike. I've submitted a couple of each over-strike that I've done, I carefully picked out the best examples from each entire production run, and I've never received a 70 on any over-strike.

  • TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:
    My order of 15 Carr pieces at ANACS is finally ready to ship. They received it Sept 28th. Not one single 70. I think I'm about done with ANACS.

    Why? 6 weeks isn't that long and 70 is very hard to impossible to get on most issues.

    It's even slower than pcgs, which is known for being slow. And I would expect at least one 70 out of 15 coins. If pcgs can slap 70's on palladiums with rim damage, I don't see how some of these aren't 70's, when I can't see any imperfections.

    Well, wait times are typically a touch longer than normal during popular specials and 70 is quite though to get. Most ANACS 70's I've seen were gold or medals and I've never seen an overstike in ANACS 70. If you want 70's go with ICG but they give it out so often that they sell for less than an ANACS 69.

    I think it may be ANACS' standard policy to never give a 70 on an over-strike. I've submitted a couple of each over-strike that I've done, I carefully picked out the best examples from each entire production run, and I've never received a 70 on any over-strike.

    That's one of the reasons that I self slab

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:
    My order of 15 Carr pieces at ANACS is finally ready to ship. They received it Sept 28th. Not one single 70. I think I'm about done with ANACS.

    Why? 6 weeks isn't that long and 70 is very hard to impossible to get on most issues.

    It's even slower than pcgs, which is known for being slow. And I would expect at least one 70 out of 15 coins. If pcgs can slap 70's on palladiums with rim damage, I don't see how some of these aren't 70's, when I can't see any imperfections.

    Well, wait times are typically a touch longer than normal during popular specials and 70 is quite though to get. Most ANACS 70's I've seen were gold or medals and I've never seen an overstike in ANACS 70. If you want 70's go with ICG but they give it out so often that they sell for less than an ANACS 69.

    I think it may be ANACS' standard policy to never give a 70 on an over-strike. I've submitted a couple of each over-strike that I've done, I carefully picked out the best examples from each entire production run, and I've never received a 70 on any over-strike.

    Agreed.

    The more you VAM..
  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2017 1:55PM

    @CascadeChris said:

    @jwitten said:
    My order of 15 Carr pieces at ANACS is finally ready to ship. They received it Sept 28th. Not one single 70. I think I'm about done with ANACS.

    Why? 6 weeks isn't that long and 70 is very hard to impossible to get on most issues.

    Sorry jwitten but I would think a 69 is still good in the Carr world. I been buying and I have not seen many 70's and of course they ask double. I guess that's the bad part cause your loosing off your top end. I got 8 Carr coins in at ANACS too right now I guess I will add 8 weeks of wait, but I was not really expecting to get a 70. But serious sorry you did not get the 70's. I know the feeling as PCGS did not grade my only 2 First Day of Issue 70's. But even worse they would NOT give me the option of having a first day of issue only a First Strike I guess I should be grateful that they will even grade for me a common person who is not one of the big retails. Look at me starting to rant! Have a great weekend and if you served Thank you happy Veterans Day.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,501 ✭✭✭✭✭


    GrandAm :)
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen a number of ANACS 70s for medals and ICG 70s for overstrikes, but no ANACS 70s for overstrikes yet.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmm, I guess I've never really noticed not seeing a overstrike 70 at ANACS. Why would they refuse to give it a 70 if it was flawless? Pretty stupid, I think. Oh well.

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    Hmm, I guess I've never really noticed not seeing a overstrike 70 at ANACS. Why would they refuse to give it a 70 if it was flawless? Pretty stupid, I think. Oh well.

    Why won't PCGS give a PL designation to an obvious PL Morgan in 55 or 58 yet ANACS will. Same idea. They probably just don't 70 overstikes as a matter of procedure. Why, who knows.

    The more you VAM..

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