There is a HUGE difference between the BU and Circ releases. The big money is in the Circ, with a mintage of only 10 pieces. The gold, of course, is even rarer, with only 6 minted. Such low mintage pieces tend to work their way into increasingly strong, sell-resistant hands and have excellent future price gain potential. Probably a price guide would really help build and stablize the secondary market in Carr products. Might be something I (or someone else) could jump into.
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I am so very happy I got mine second hand and will never sell it.
And @alefzero , I don’t completely disagree with you, the first two prices I quoted were for uncirculated examples, to me it’s a slippery slope when saying the 10 circulated examples are big money when there are a very large number of high grade examples that could potentially turn circulated in pocket. I feel similar for low Mintage Antiqued pieces that have a correspondingly large number of high grade examples minted.
I carried a number of Dan’s pieces cause I thought they were cool and I liked seeing the wear pattern emerge. Alas one escaped my pocket which was totally uncool. I’m trying to be more careful these days (lost a nice Landis as well I could kick myself on those two) and have no plans to circulate this 1792.
Now give me a silver and gold version, and a three coin capital holder with the correct diameter, and I would crack this silver center copper out in a heartbeat , as I think it would display very nicely together.
Hope y’all have a nice weekend and happy collecting.
I agree that an uncirculated can be turned into to a circulated piece simply by carrying around in your pocket, but totally disagree that the circulated pieces ( especially low mintage), that Dan did aren’t rare because a large amount of uncirculated pieces were minted ‼️
There is a specific reason in “Dan’s plans” that very low mintages were in circulated or antiqued or any other thing Dan does to the piece , and that is to make the piece extremely rare‼️👍🎯
That’s why the coin flip certificates are so important to keep with the piece. Sure, the certificates could be counterfeited, but Dan that’s why Dan signs all his rare certificates.
If you nullify a very rare piece, just because a large amount of uncirculated were minted, you missed the “ Dan Plan‼️
My intention was not to nullify the rarity of a specific piece, the mintage numbers are what they are and in fact I think the Reference Guide that Dan has built is top notch... I wish others were that thorough in record keeping.
Perhaps I should have said "Before shelling out 'big money' for a piece, try and make sure it is an original piece and not one that has been altered on the secondary market to appear as something its not.
You make great points to the accompanying signed certificate / insert, and I would also add many of these pieces are still owned by their original purchasers which add to the authenticity and provenance of the piece.
And @alefzero , I don’t completely disagree with you, the first two prices I quoted were for uncirculated examples, to me it’s a slippery slope when saying the 10 circulated examples are big money when there are a very large number of high grade examples that could potentially turn circulated in pocket. I feel similar for low Mintage Antiqued pieces that have a correspondingly large number of high grade examples minted.
I carried a number of Dan’s pieces cause I thought they were cool and I liked seeing the wear pattern emerge. Alas one escaped my pocket which was totally uncool. I’m trying to be more careful these days (lost a nice Landis as well I could kick myself on those two) and have no plans to circulate this 1792.
Now give me a silver and gold version, and a three coin capital holder with the correct diameter, and I would crack this silver center copper out in a heartbeat , as I think it would display very nicely together.
Hope y’all have a nice weekend and happy collecting.
Generally true, but it is a good idea to keep the Carr flip with the coin.
As I have said before, in hindsight, ANACS should have simply labeled their Carr certifications according to his flip tags to avoid future issues. They never needed formal grades.
Picked up the Silver Centered Chain cent , it’s a beaut.
I also participated in the “save the mint” over at Landis studios and they sent me this obverse copy stamped (1793) chain cent as lagniappe which makes for a good picture next to one another other.
Not sure what I have here…….couldn’t find it in “Dan’s minted items “, but it looked kool, and it’s the only MS65 in ANACS population ‼️
Maybe someone knows what I have‼️
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Not sure what I have here…….couldn’t find it in “Dan’s minted items “, but it looked kool, and it’s the only MS65 in ANACS population ‼️
Maybe someone knows what I have‼️
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I did not make that item, although they did use part of my design (without permission).
Back in 2012 those were sort of a plague on the market. I was able to get most sales of them shut down on eBay.
ANACS should not have certified that as a Moonlight Mint Daniel Carr item. I will talk to them about it at the Denver Coin Expo next week.
Back in 2010 I bought a bunch of the fake 2010 Ameros with the 2007 reverse not knowing Mr. Carr was not involved in their making. So unfortunately, I now have a bunch of these I can't do anything with.
Thank you!
I checked the site this morning and there was just a lonesome klepto currency listing with 'less than five left'.
Now, this evening, lots of new items!
The 1891 Columbian Exposition offering prompted me to get 1892 and 1893 US Mint Columbian Exposition coins....the rabbit hole.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
DCAM ? Maybe an early die state product? I didn't think that the new products would have a proof-like finish. That said, my 2022-CC (which came early after availability) was graded MS70 Cameo. Regardless, that is one very nice looking medal!
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
DCAM ? Maybe an early die state product? I didn't think that the new products would have a proof-like finish. That said, my 2022-CC (which came early after availability) was graded MS70 Cameo. Regardless, that is one very nice looking medal!
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My bad.
I realize now that I was thinking of the new Lesher silver offerings with six die pairs, but the depicted was actually a different limited production piece available at the recent Denver coin show. The latter was the subject of a "Coin GeeK" YouTude video on 10/23: https://youtu.be/kIqtFOSDVjM
Play on.
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1964-D Matte Proof Peace Dollar, DP 6, mintage 152, made in 2011.
This one listed last night and I jumped on it, been watching for one for years.
Looks to be in pretty good shape, sellers photos.
I'll be sending both to PCGS.
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Also got the DP 5 Peace.
I wish Dan would do a subscription so I don't miss out, which I do often. I so love my Over like1848 CAL $20. I got a problem, cleaned AU coin and had it overstruck. It was $350 plus the coin so I am into it like $2600 but I am good.
Events happen sometimes while I am tuned into other distractions, and I miss out. Carr is Art. Sometimes I connect, other times I reward those who paid more attention. Not everything rings my bell. Until I give it extra thought, then I am shopping on the aftermarket
I’ve wanted to buy some of his new stuff too………but had some repairs on the house,(water leak in slab foundation and some other repairs), put me out this round‼️👀😱😱😱
Haven’t sold anything lately either, or it would go straight back into purchasing Dan’s new pieces‼️
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Good on ya! I looked when I saw this posted and couldn't find it....
Well, just Love coins, period.
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I am so very happy I got mine second hand and will never sell it.
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
@coinsarefun
Did you have one struck on a large cent?
And @alefzero , I don’t completely disagree with you, the first two prices I quoted were for uncirculated examples, to me it’s a slippery slope when saying the 10 circulated examples are big money when there are a very large number of high grade examples that could potentially turn circulated in pocket. I feel similar for low Mintage Antiqued pieces that have a correspondingly large number of high grade examples minted.
I carried a number of Dan’s pieces cause I thought they were cool and I liked seeing the wear pattern emerge. Alas one escaped my pocket which was totally uncool. I’m trying to be more careful these days (lost a nice Landis as well I could kick myself on those two) and have no plans to circulate this 1792.
Now give me a silver and gold version, and a three coin capital holder with the correct diameter, and I would crack this silver center copper out in a heartbeat , as I think it would display very nicely together.
Hope y’all have a nice weekend and happy collecting.
It's all about what the people want...
Yes. You can just make out the under type.
It’s probably one of my favorite coins of all,I own yet, not real :-)
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
Ahhh, that IS the overstruck large cent you imaged above!
I can make out the stars and denticles now that you mention.
Cool Coin 😎
It's all about what the people want...
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Sometimes the difference in grades is definitely huge.
Not sure why, but sometimes I actually prefer the look of a circulated version.
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I agree that an uncirculated can be turned into to a circulated piece simply by carrying around in your pocket, but totally disagree that the circulated pieces ( especially low mintage), that Dan did aren’t rare because a large amount of uncirculated pieces were minted ‼️
There is a specific reason in “Dan’s plans” that very low mintages were in circulated or antiqued or any other thing Dan does to the piece , and that is to make the piece extremely rare‼️👍🎯
That’s why the coin flip certificates are so important to keep with the piece. Sure, the certificates could be counterfeited, but Dan that’s why Dan signs all his rare certificates.
If you nullify a very rare piece, just because a large amount of uncirculated were minted, you missed the “ Dan Plan‼️
My intention was not to nullify the rarity of a specific piece, the mintage numbers are what they are and in fact I think the Reference Guide that Dan has built is top notch... I wish others were that thorough in record keeping.
Perhaps I should have said "Before shelling out 'big money' for a piece, try and make sure it is an original piece and not one that has been altered on the secondary market to appear as something its not.
You make great points to the accompanying signed certificate / insert, and I would also add many of these pieces are still owned by their original purchasers which add to the authenticity and provenance of the piece.
It's all about what the people want...
The Moonlight Mint website looks like maybe Dan is gearing up for a new release?
I just noticed that....exciting! Maybe @dcarr will give us a preview of what's coming or when it's coming 🤔
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Ah yes, some housekeeping has been done since this morning.
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$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
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Generally true, but it is a good idea to keep the Carr flip with the coin.
As I have said before, in hindsight, ANACS should have simply labeled their Carr certifications according to his flip tags to avoid future issues. They never needed formal grades.
In todays mail
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coinJP, Outhaul ,illini420,MICHAELDIXON, Fade to Black,epcjimi1,19Lyds,SNMAN,JerseyJoe, bigjpst, DMWJR , lordmarcovan, Weiss,Mfriday4962,UtahCoin,Downtown1974,pitboss,RichieURich,Bullsitter,JDsCoins,toyz4geo,jshaulis, mustanggt, SNMAN, MWallace, ms71
I have not received a Carr goodie in 2 or 3 months now.
What's new Pussy CAT ?
Whoa whoa whoa whoa woaaaa...
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A certain series is celebrating its 150th birthday in 2023. The US Mint dropped the ball on that. Maybe, just maybe?
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I've wanted a Carr o/s Trade dollar for a long time. I'd prefer a fantasy date like 1872, but that wouldn't really commemorate the 150th anniversary.
Also on my fantasy wish list: A Barber silver dollar.
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Chop Marks $20 extra......
The post-minting chopmarks could be interesting and create a submarket, based on their distribution potentially.
Here's a fun one.. 2019 Open House Dies OverStruck on a previously lightly cleaned yet gorgeously toned AU Oregon commem.
1/1
Picked up the Silver Centered Chain cent , it’s a beaut.
I also participated in the “save the mint” over at Landis studios and they sent me this obverse copy stamped (1793) chain cent as lagniappe which makes for a good picture next to one another other.
Great work 👍
It's all about what the people want...
Not sure what I have here…….couldn’t find it in “Dan’s minted items “, but it looked kool, and it’s the only MS65 in ANACS population ‼️
Maybe someone knows what I have‼️
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I did not make that item, although they did use part of my design (without permission).
Back in 2012 those were sort of a plague on the market. I was able to get most sales of them shut down on eBay.
ANACS should not have certified that as a Moonlight Mint Daniel Carr item. I will talk to them about it at the Denver Coin Expo next week.
I document them on my alert page here:
moonlightmint.com/fakes.htm
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Well a fake Dan Carr token certified by ANACs as real in a holder with a genuine Dan Carr signature is certainly one of a kind.
No wonder I couldn’t find it ‼️
Thanks Dan👍
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Octagons.
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Back in 2010 I bought a bunch of the fake 2010 Ameros with the 2007 reverse not knowing Mr. Carr was not involved in their making. So unfortunately, I now have a bunch of these I can't do anything with.
Bummer ‼️😱
New stuff listed, folks!
I think I got 2 of each of the Columbian halves. Doesn't show up in my order history though.
👍 thanks for the heads up!
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Thank you!
I checked the site this morning and there was just a lonesome klepto currency listing with 'less than five left'.
Now, this evening, lots of new items!
The 1891 Columbian Exposition offering prompted me to get 1892 and 1893 US Mint Columbian Exposition coins....the rabbit hole.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I only see two Colombian Half Dollars...am I missing something else?
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2023 Lesher/Prospector/Denver-Mint in both silver and copper. 6 varieties of each type.
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Thank you! I was looking through the Shop by Category tabs, not the home page.
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Thanks for the heads up GoldenEgg.
I ordered these
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coinJP, Outhaul ,illini420,MICHAELDIXON, Fade to Black,epcjimi1,19Lyds,SNMAN,JerseyJoe, bigjpst, DMWJR , lordmarcovan, Weiss,Mfriday4962,UtahCoin,Downtown1974,pitboss,RichieURich,Bullsitter,JDsCoins,toyz4geo,jshaulis, mustanggt, SNMAN, MWallace, ms71
Lesher, Type 6, added sun rays.......
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I really like the "4R" 1891 Columbian...The Lesher more a matter of personal choice.
Well, just Love coins, period.
INYNWHWeTrust-TexasNationals,ajaan,blu62vette
coinJP, Outhaul ,illini420,MICHAELDIXON, Fade to Black,epcjimi1,19Lyds,SNMAN,JerseyJoe, bigjpst, DMWJR , lordmarcovan, Weiss,Mfriday4962,UtahCoin,Downtown1974,pitboss,RichieURich,Bullsitter,JDsCoins,toyz4geo,jshaulis, mustanggt, SNMAN, MWallace, ms71
DCAM ? Maybe an early die state product? I didn't think that the new products would have a proof-like finish. That said, my 2022-CC (which came early after availability) was graded MS70 Cameo. Regardless, that is one very nice looking medal!
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Love me some Carr Art !!! Fun finds have been quite elusive lately. What is up with that ?
I hope you all adding to your Carr archive !
What's New Pussy Cat ??? whoa whoa whoa wo wo~a ????
Pussy Cat,Pussy Cat I love you, yes I do...
What is new for you ????
For me, Carr Art Reigns Supreme
I Enoy what I have yet I to receive and I desire more more more...
Happy Shopping
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https://youtu.be/kIqtFOSDVjM
My bad.
I realize now that I was thinking of the new Lesher silver offerings with six die pairs, but the depicted was actually a different limited production piece available at the recent Denver coin show. The latter was the subject of a "Coin GeeK" YouTude video on 10/23:
Play on.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
This cat has been on the prowl the last few weeks....nothing special, but hard to find at times.
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1964-D Matte Proof Peace Dollar, DP 6, mintage 152, made in 2011.
This one listed last night and I jumped on it, been watching for one for years.
Looks to be in pretty good shape, sellers photos.
I'll be sending both to PCGS.
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Also got the DP 5 Peace.
I wish Dan would do a subscription so I don't miss out, which I do often. I so love my Over like1848 CAL $20. I got a problem, cleaned AU coin and had it overstruck. It was $350 plus the coin so I am into it like $2600 but I am good.
Events happen sometimes while I am tuned into other distractions, and I miss out. Carr is Art. Sometimes I connect, other times I reward those who paid more attention. Not everything rings my bell. Until I give it extra thought, then I am shopping on the aftermarket
I’ve wanted to buy some of his new stuff too………but had some repairs on the house,(water leak in slab foundation and some other repairs), put me out this round‼️👀😱😱😱
Haven’t sold anything lately either, or it would go straight back into purchasing Dan’s new pieces‼️
No love for the 1891 Columbia overstrikes? I collect the classic commemorative coins so I couldn’t pass this up.
Just got a shipping notification on the newest items in his shop.
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