@Zoins said:
Here's another tip for those of us getting Liberty Seated Dollars now.
Don't overstrike a toner if you want to preserve the toning
So I shouldn't use one that looks like this? I am a blast white kind of guy so maybe it would get rid of all that color??
One good thing, this project is going to take a fair amount of details Liberty Seated Dollars and make them AMAZING looking. They are in the best hands in the business.
I'm guessing DC can make a toned o/s similar as shown above, just sayin'.
That type of toning pattern takes a fairly long time to form. Rapid toning of silver looks different, and is highly unpredictable.
I guess I should have bought all of those and flipped them. Oh Well.
They were limited to one per person/account.
I’m glad you do that.
At one point I had one of each silver item you posted. I decided to leave them for others but I guess they ended up in a flippers hands. I was hoping your long time collectors would get them.
Perhaps Dan has written it elsewhere, but the number 19 seems rather random for a mintage limit for so many pieces. Was the number chosen because of some type of limitation?
I guess I should have bought all of those and flipped them. Oh Well.
They were limited to one per person/account.
I’m glad you do that.
At one point I had one of each silver item you posted. I decided to leave them for others but I guess they ended up in a flippers hands. I was hoping your long time collectors would get them.
For the most part, I do think they went to "collectors". I do not know who the eBay seller is.
@TomB said:
Perhaps Dan has written it elsewhere, but the number 19 seems rather random for a mintage limit for so many pieces. Was the number chosen because of some type of limitation?
The mintage number of 19 each was simply the number of Morgan/Peace/Modern-Commemorative dollars that I had on hand at the time. I considered doing more, but they were a pain to produce (mostly due to the edge smoothing and marking). I decided that I liked the over-strikes on actual Seated Liberty Dollars a lot better, so I will focus more on those.
@Zoins said:
Dan @dcarr Any thoughts on making a no stars Gobrecht Dollar or a no motto Liberty Seated Dollar? I imagine they would be nice for a type set
I bet there's a Trade Dollar on Dan's to-do list.
it would be great to do US, British, and Japanese Trade Dollars!
Annoyed I was camping this weekend and missed out completely but even more annoyed the items didn’t remain on his site marked sold out so I could at least see what I missed out on. 🤷🏽♂️
@nk1nk said:
Annoyed I was camping this weekend and missed out completely but even more annoyed the items didn’t remain on his site marked sold out so I could at least see what I missed out on. 🤷🏽♂️
eleven - 1837-0 die pair 1
ten - 1853-O die pair 2
twelve - 1874-CC die pair 3
six - 1874-S die pair 4
I'm sure there will be more of the Seated Liberty Dollar coins being sent in over the next few weeks. That said, at this point the 1874-S appears to have the head start to the lowest production of these four.
I wonder how the final production on these will end up compared to the 19 of each with MM counterstamp and edge lettering.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
eleven - 1837-0 die pair 1
ten - 1853-O die pair 2
twelve - 1874-CC die pair 3
six - 1874-S die pair 4
I'm sure there will be more of the Seated Liberty Dollar coins being sent in over the next few weeks. That said, at this point the 1874-S appears to have the head start to the lowest production of these four.
I wonder how the final production on these will end up compared to the 19 of each with MM counterstamp and edge lettering.
Still in the process of acquiring 4 Liberty Seated Dollars to get the set.
@ZoidMeister said:
You know, I just remembered (and found) this old "Details" coin I have laying around . . . . . .
I wonder . . . . . .
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That is the type I am searching for. Anything details so that it can be brought back to life. With the silver dollar version selling for $600 it isn't too far off to find a details coin and have that done. DC also commented that they come up much nicer.
@COCollector said:
But maybe not as many as you'd expect. That is, I'm having a hard time finding a suitable host coin.
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After the availability for purchased appeared on Moonlight Mint, there were some suitable host coins available on eBay, but those went quick and now only higher priced options remain.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@ZoidMeister said:
It's not just the latest and greatest drawing deep pockets.
Here are a couple other recent sales.
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I have Dan's 1970 Ag and CuNI die pair 4 Ikes, his 1975 Ag and CuNI die pair 5 Ikes, and his 1975 Ag die pair 1 Ike. These were the very first of Dan's art that I started collecting. I had some redundancies of these, and sold off all but one redundancy - the 1975 CuNi die pair 5 Ike depicted below (which is acquiring some nice target toning) (alongside Dan's 1975 Kennedy CuNi and Washington CuNi).
Wish I got into Dan Carr / Moonlight Mint collecting when the die pair 2 and die pair 3 production came out. Anyone here have all of the various Ike die pair options? (kudos, if so)
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@dcarr How much time do we have to track down a Seated dollar ? Economical options are quite scarce at the moment. Would a counter stamp be a disqualification ?
Thanks!
@dcarr How much time do we have to start down a Seated dollar ? Economical options are quite scarce at the moment. Would a counter stamp be a disqualification ?
Thanks!
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I'm hoping we'll be able to order for many months.
But maybe the real question is, how long can we delay submitting a host coin after ordering a Seated Dollar?
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
Wish I got into Dan Carr / Moonlight Mint collecting when the die pair 2 and die pair 3 production came out. Anyone here have all of the various Ike die pair options? (kudos, if so)
@ZoidMeister said:
It's not just the latest and greatest drawing deep pockets.
Here are a couple other recent sales.
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i have serious questions about these auctions, i was watching both closely to pick one up cheap, they were both at about 200 bucks cheap, an hour later they were both at 400 or more. funny thing is you can get the 1975 ike, 40% for 250. still listed.
@silverbul ask @D808LF if he got paid for those Auctions and you will know if they were legit bids. If you got to his profile page there are some other recent acutions and prices realized - very interesting.
I bid strongly on a Die pair 1 "o mint" Morgan that I was missing - it was in a MS69 CAM holder from ANACS so maybe extra value there.
Anyway my $420 nuclear bid was blown out the water and I came up empty handed... so there are some heavy hitters picking up DCARR pieces it seems.
@LukeMarshall said: @silverbul ask @D808LF if he got paid for those Auctions and you will know if they were legit bids. If you got to his profile page there are some other recent acutions and prices realized - very interesting.
I bid strongly on a Die pair 1 "o mint" Morgan that I was missing - it was in a MS69 CAM holder from ANACS so maybe extra value there.
Anyway my $420 nuclear bid was blown out the water and I came up empty handed... so there are some heavy hitters picking up DCARR pieces it seems.
Got paid, coins sent.
I have auction results on my wall if anyone is interested; does not reflect recent auctions. I've been very pleased with the results.
@LukeMarshall said:
I bid strongly on a Die pair 1 "o mint" Morgan that I was missing - it was in a MS69 CAM holder from ANACS so maybe extra value there.
Anyway my $420 nuclear bid was blown out the water and I came up empty handed... so there are some heavy hitters picking up DCARR pieces it seems.
I always thought the 1909-o Morgans were real sleepers. Back then everyone was so focused on getting Dan's original 1964 Peace overstrikes that his original Morgans flew under the radar.
That coin sold for $175 in 2011 on Dan's site. Add in grading, shipping, etc, and its over $200 in original cost. Then add in inflation. Plus CAM means a lot to some people (including me), so that boosts it. I sent three proof-like 1909s to ANACS years ago, and only one came back CAM.
Prices are definitely strong, but I think the recent prices on Dan's Washington quarters, Kennedy halves, those two Ikes, etc., are way crazier
Alot of Carr Art collectors buy & hold. Their strong hands help inflate resale of the few offers that trade hands.
I have paid up for a few items I needed/wanted & appreciate the flippers or collectors who chose to part ways with their goodies.
I saw everything recently offered and jumped on nothing. I looked & looked & looked again over an hour, then stuff started selling out.
I am not a fan of counter punches. They are still cool, highly desirable, obviously.
I don't buy MM items for resale. I guess at some point that will change due to aging out of my hobbies, but for last few decades that how I collect.
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Well, that didn’t take very long. Not mine.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/115481524472?hash=item1ae33c38f8:g:hfMAAOSwWHti6BVG
I guess I should have bought all of those and flipped them. Oh Well.
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CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
I would have like to gotten ahold of the without stars Gobrecht version or the 1853 $1 w/rays. I'll keep an eye open on ebay I reckon.
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They were limited to one per person/account.
That type of toning pattern takes a fairly long time to form. Rapid toning of silver looks different, and is highly unpredictable.
I’m glad you do that.
At one point I had one of each silver item you posted. I decided to leave them for others but I guess they ended up in a flippers hands. I was hoping your long time collectors would get them.
Successful BST with BustDMs , Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino (CBH's - 37 Die Marriage's)
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
Perhaps Dan has written it elsewhere, but the number 19 seems rather random for a mintage limit for so many pieces. Was the number chosen because of some type of limitation?
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I wondered that myself. It was hard to resist not getting one of each but got the 1837 and 1874 CC. Yikes, that was a load there of new coins...
Well, just Love coins, period.
For the most part, I do think they went to "collectors". I do not know who the eBay seller is.
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Somebody is already feeding the flipper . . . . . .
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Didn't have enough time to raise the cash before the shelves went bare this go-round.
I'm otherwise allocated.
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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The mintage number of 19 each was simply the number of Morgan/Peace/Modern-Commemorative dollars that I had on hand at the time. I considered doing more, but they were a pain to produce (mostly due to the edge smoothing and marking). I decided that I liked the over-strikes on actual Seated Liberty Dollars a lot better, so I will focus more on those.
Thank you for the information.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
thats me, i'l wait a while then retract my bid. i know.
Dan @dcarr Any thoughts on making a no stars Gobrecht Dollar or a no motto Liberty Seated Dollar? I imagine they would be nice for a type set
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I bet there's a Trade Dollar on Dan's to-do list.
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it would be great to do US, British, and Japanese Trade Dollars!
Annoyed I was camping this weekend and missed out completely but even more annoyed the items didn’t remain on his site marked sold out so I could at least see what I missed out on. 🤷🏽♂️
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Here you go . . . . . .
http://www.dc-coin.com/fantasyover-struckusacoins.aspx
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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Early production report on the o/s on Seated Liberty Dollar coins: http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_52.htm
eleven - 1837-0 die pair 1
ten - 1853-O die pair 2
twelve - 1874-CC die pair 3
six - 1874-S die pair 4
I'm sure there will be more of the Seated Liberty Dollar coins being sent in over the next few weeks. That said, at this point the 1874-S appears to have the head start to the lowest production of these four.
I wonder how the final production on these will end up compared to the 19 of each with MM counterstamp and edge lettering.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
(S)He even swiped the images fron Dan's website.
BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore, Nickpatton, Namvet69,...
Still in the process of acquiring 4 Liberty Seated Dollars to get the set.
Successful BST with BustDMs , Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino (CBH's - 37 Die Marriage's)
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
.> @SPalladino said:
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But maybe not as many as you'd expect. That is, I'm having a hard time finding a suitable host coin.
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
You know, I just remembered (and found) this old "Details" coin I have laying around . . . . . .
I wonder . . . . . .
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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Zoid, that's a nice original looking dollar....scratches and all. Are you considering having that over-struck??
That is the type I am searching for. Anything details so that it can be brought back to life. With the silver dollar version selling for $600 it isn't too far off to find a details coin and have that done. DC also commented that they come up much nicer.
Successful BST with BustDMs , Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino (CBH's - 37 Die Marriage's)
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
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The spirit is willing but the wallet is weak . . . .
It's also the only Seated Liberty dollar that I own.
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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After the availability for purchased appeared on Moonlight Mint, there were some suitable host coins available on eBay, but those went quick and now only higher priced options remain.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Same here. I'm worried what I pick will be "wrong" and what I get back is sub optimal leaving me disappointed. 🤷 maybe I'll sit out.
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Never mind, they were half dollars . . . . .
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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I got excited thinking he was doing halves next.....
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$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
It's not just the latest and greatest drawing deep pockets.
Here are a couple other recent sales.
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
Great sales!
It would be great if some of these Carr Ike Dollars were posted in the "I Like Ike" thread
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/984747/i-like-ike-post-your-eisenhowers
Thx.
fka renman95, Sep 2005, 7,000 posts
First I've seen that thread.
Done.
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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I have Dan's 1970 Ag and CuNI die pair 4 Ikes, his 1975 Ag and CuNI die pair 5 Ikes, and his 1975 Ag die pair 1 Ike. These were the very first of Dan's art that I started collecting. I had some redundancies of these, and sold off all but one redundancy - the 1975 CuNi die pair 5 Ike depicted below (which is acquiring some nice target toning) (alongside Dan's 1975 Kennedy CuNi and Washington CuNi).
Wish I got into Dan Carr / Moonlight Mint collecting when the die pair 2 and die pair 3 production came out. Anyone here have all of the various Ike die pair options? (kudos, if so)
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
ps......would love to see a Dan Carr / Moonlight Mint 1979 CuNi Eisenhower Dollar some day.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@dcarr How much time do we have to track down a Seated dollar ? Economical options are quite scarce at the moment. Would a counter stamp be a disqualification ?
Thanks!
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I'm hoping we'll be able to order for many months.
But maybe the real question is, how long can we delay submitting a host coin after ordering a Seated Dollar?
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
.> @SPalladino said:
I have a complete set of everything listed here: http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_3.htm
Including these two, which were not easy to get after that fact (I started collecting Dan's stuff in 2014):
I grabbed those in 2017/2018 from two different board members.
i have serious questions about these auctions, i was watching both closely to pick one up cheap, they were both at about 200 bucks cheap, an hour later they were both at 400 or more. funny thing is you can get the 1975 ike, 40% for 250. still listed.
While everyone else was bumping elbows tryin to get the deep pockets strikes, I was able to acquire this really nice 2011 "details" UNA . . . . .
Cost of acquisition? Original issue price, shipped . . . .
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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@silverbul ask @D808LF if he got paid for those Auctions and you will know if they were legit bids. If you got to his profile page there are some other recent acutions and prices realized - very interesting.
I bid strongly on a Die pair 1 "o mint" Morgan that I was missing - it was in a MS69 CAM holder from ANACS so maybe extra value there.
Anyway my $420 nuclear bid was blown out the water and I came up empty handed... so there are some heavy hitters picking up DCARR pieces it seems.
It's all about what the people want...
Got paid, coins sent.
I have auction results on my wall if anyone is interested; does not reflect recent auctions. I've been very pleased with the results.
fka renman95, Sep 2005, 7,000 posts
I always thought the 1909-o Morgans were real sleepers. Back then everyone was so focused on getting Dan's original 1964 Peace overstrikes that his original Morgans flew under the radar.
That coin sold for $175 in 2011 on Dan's site. Add in grading, shipping, etc, and its over $200 in original cost. Then add in inflation. Plus CAM means a lot to some people (including me), so that boosts it. I sent three proof-like 1909s to ANACS years ago, and only one came back CAM.
Prices are definitely strong, but I think the recent prices on Dan's Washington quarters, Kennedy halves, those two Ikes, etc., are way crazier
Alot of Carr Art collectors buy & hold. Their strong hands help inflate resale of the few offers that trade hands.
I have paid up for a few items I needed/wanted & appreciate the flippers or collectors who chose to part ways with their goodies.
I saw everything recently offered and jumped on nothing. I looked & looked & looked again over an hour, then stuff started selling out.
I am not a fan of counter punches. They are still cool, highly desirable, obviously.
I don't buy MM items for resale. I guess at some point that will change due to aging out of my hobbies, but for last few decades that how I collect.
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pretty cheap i think.