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  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Kudbegud
    Originally posted by: VanHalen
    Originally posted by: Kudbegud
    Not just so few returns but that both mint marks are close to equal. Looks like most got one of each.

    A question:
    You get these numbers from the Federal Register? Would you post a link please. Or in a PM to me?
    Thanx


    This data is updated on Tuesdays: U.S. Mint



    Yes thanks I knew this. He seems to get the numbers before Tuesday and that was my question.

    Ah, I didn't know that was the question. image

    The master file (see my post) gets updated on Monday (usually) sometime during the day before the official totals get posted. (This doesn't happen if Monday is a holiday, obviously, but the file will still get updated before the website on Tuesday.)

    These are "unofficial" numbers, and the mint reserves the right to correct those numbers before the official numbers posted on Tuesday. (The only times I think I've seen a correction is when they reduce the maximum sold to the maximum mintage. This is an artifact from when they purposely oversold a product for a waitlist.)

    I save the master file every week to the same directory, so every time I go online (usually every couple of hours), I'll download the file to see if the size has changed. It generally grows about 250K every week, so it's easy to detect when they've added data.

    I keep a separate spreadsheet of the products I'm following, so my (kinda) weekly sales updates only takes a minute to update into the table form I post. One day, if I ever have the time (and the motivation), I'm writing a database program to read in and analyze all that mint data...

    It's not a secret backdoor, or anything like that. I've posted this before (at least, I think I have), maybe we need a faq around here. image
  • New update and each still sittin 300 shy! Could the mintage wind up at 12,200 for each
  • Did they look like my s mint ones spotted of??

    https://www.dropbox.com/sc/g8o5gxdaldk8xqn/AABNa6ttU21I11o7e4ALVkMya

    I called and got a direct return shipping with a promises of replacements. Was told they hold back some to replace major damaged items. If minor they just issue return.
  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie

    Originally posted by: Kudbegud

    Originally posted by: VanHalen

    Originally posted by: Kudbegud

    Not just so few returns but that both mint marks are close to equal. Looks like most got one of each.



    A question:

    You get these numbers from the Federal Register? Would you post a link please. Or in a PM to me?

    Thanx




    This data is updated on Tuesdays: U.S. Mint







    Yes thanks I knew this. He seems to get the numbers before Tuesday and that was my question.


    Ah, I didn't know that was the question. image



    The master file (see my post) gets updated on Monday (usually) sometime during the day before the official totals get posted. (This doesn't happen if Monday is a holiday, obviously, but the file will still get updated before the website on Tuesday.)



    These are "unofficial" numbers, and the mint reserves the right to correct those numbers before the official numbers posted on Tuesday. (The only times I think I've seen a correction is when they reduce the maximum sold to the maximum mintage. This is an artifact from when they purposely oversold a product for a waitlist.)



    I save the master file every week to the same directory, so every time I go online (usually every couple of hours), I'll download the file to see if the size has changed. It generally grows about 250K every week, so it's easy to detect when they've added data.



    I keep a separate spreadsheet of the products I'm following, so my (kinda) weekly sales updates only takes a minute to update into the table form I post. One day, if I ever have the time (and the motivation), I'm writing a database program to read in and analyze all that mint data...



    It's not a secret backdoor, or anything like that. I've posted this before (at least, I think I have), maybe we need a faq around here. image




    Thanks for reveling your "trick".


  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Had my medals graded ATS.

    Both WP medals came back PF69UC.
    Both SF medals came back PF70UC.
    I thought it might come back the other way around. Actually was hoping for a 70 set to go with my 2015 HR...

    Anyone grade ATS with ER that wants to trade a WP PF70UC and a SF PF69UC for a SF PF70UC and a WP PF69UC? image

    Any other grades yet through our hosts or ATS yet?
  • ATS 2 70 s, 1 70 w, 2 69 s, 3 69 w
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It cost over $300 on eBay to get one of each. They're in the original boxes. They sure are pretty pieces. I never thought I'd pay $160 per ounce for a piece of silver that is not even a coin. image Sometimes I wonder about myself. Then, I get over it.
  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie

    Had my medals graded ATS.



    Both WP medals came back PF69UC.

    Both SF medals came back PF70UC.

    I thought it might come back the other way around. Actually was hoping for a 70 set to go with my 2015 HR...



    Anyone grade ATS with ER that wants to trade a WP PF70UC and a SF PF69UC for a SF PF70UC and a WP PF69UC? image



    Any other grades yet through our hosts or ATS yet?




    I have 10 (ATS) sitting in a post office 50 miles away....maybe they will be here tomorrow and we will see



  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    Anyone grade ATS with ER that wants to trade a WP PF70UC and a SF PF69UC for a SF PF70UC and a WP PF69UC?


    I'm your man...perfect match



    10 submitted....five W 70's, one S 70

    .........................one W 69...three S 69's
  • Got mine back from PCGS on Thursday:

    W - 70, W - 69, S - 69, S - 69

    These are so awesome looking in silver!
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin
    It cost over $300 on eBay to get one of each. They're in the original boxes. They sure are pretty pieces. I never thought I'd pay $160 per ounce for a piece of silver that is not even a coin. imageSometimes I wonder about myself. Then, I get over it.


    I wonder about you, too.

  • I am wondering if ATS will show a stinger 70's on this medal. PCGS has the numbers up and looks like it is over 50%. I got 3/8 70's ats and it looks like the numbers here are about the same! Also, it looks like the prices on ebay are a little higher on ats medals. That could also be the FLOOD of PCGS graded medals on there!
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Paulyaces76
    I am wondering if ATS will show a stinger 70's on this medal. PCGS has the numbers up and looks like it is over 50%. I got 3/8 70's ats and it looks like the numbers here are about the same! Also, it looks like the prices on ebay are a little higher on ats medals. That could also be the FLOOD of PCGS graded medals on there!


    Unless they've changed their ways, it'll be a while until before NGC puts up any pops. (There's nothing there yet.)

    That said, out of the 22 posted (ATS) grades so far:

    SF PF70 - 5
    SF PF69 - 5
    WP PF70 - 6
    WP PF69 - 6

    That's an eerily even split even for such a small sample... image How far above 50% is PCGS's PF70 vs PFxx?

    (I'm actually amazed at the rates of the 70's considering the proof fields are flippin' huge. Like, almost Ike dollar huge.)

    Oh, and I officially apologize for complaining that I was paying $15 over spot for a silver round... image
  • PCGS POP's

    s' 69 - 697
    w' 69 - 526
    s'70 - 604
    w'70 - 788
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Totally missed these, finding out about them now. Who wants to sell me one?
    World coins FSHO Hundreds of successful BST transactions U.S. coins FSHO
  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Totally missed these, finding out about them now. Who wants to sell me one?




    Prices are slowly descending on Ebay as graded examples pile up. There are over 350 current listings. Several pairs of PCGS graded 69s went off this morning at $210 or less...
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: myth
    Did they look like my s mint ones spotted of??

    https://www.dropbox.com/sc/g8o5gxdaldk8xqn/AABNa6ttU21I11o7e4ALVkMya

    I called and got a direct return shipping with a promises of replacements. Was told they hold back some to replace major damaged items. If minor they just issue return.


    FedEx lost one of my packages and I sent in a CNR. They said they could not send me another one. I hope you get yours.
  • Seems like a lot on the open market right now!
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nothing "fishy". Have you seen the (literally) thousands of open bid auctions for PCGS 70 gold Mercury dimes (the majority, or close to it, I believe from the same seller) that have brought prices down to just a touch over raw coins? Wondercoin.

    Edited to add... I have no idea why the comment was now edited out by Paulyaces
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • The comment came off wrong and that's why I deleted it! Much better to roll them out slowly instead of flooding. How did this guy get 600 of them? Right away the boxes were up to $400 within an hour! If he had to buy at that price he is losing money if he got 1 set of 69's and 1 set of 70's unless he had 150 people on his list buying for him! With this seller it happens everyday another 20-40 go on, so it must be more then 600? How in this case! The dime, you could get everywhere for almost cost for a while and household limit was different!


    Wondercoin, you are absolutely right! Same Seller
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    New numbers out:
    2016 AMERICAN LIBERTY SILVER MEDAL (WP - UH9)
    DateNumber soldNet Increase
    8/28/201612,2210
    9/4/201612,203-18
    9/11/201612,201-2
    9/18/201612,199-2
    2016 AMERICAN LIBERTY SILVER MEDAL (WP - UH10)
    DateNumber soldNet Increase
    8/28/201612,2190
    9/4/201612,201-18
    9/11/201612,200-1
    9/18/201612,193-7
    I wonder what the mint will do with the 250 or so not sold...
  • goldbuffalogoldbuffalo Posts: 645 ✭✭✭
    see this Seller, texasgse

    Sold 320 sets and has 120 up for sale.

    Lots of the same bidders on these, but they never win.


  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: goldbuffalo

    see this Seller, texasgse



    Sold 320 sets and has 120 up for sale.



    Lots of the same bidders on these, but they never win.









    Never? That's a bidder worth a Shilling or two.



  • Gold, I was talking about him a a couple of days ago. If he is on this site someone needs to tell him to knock that off! That's why ATS are selling for more money because people think there are tons of those to go around!
  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks go out to BackRoadJunkie.for a smooth exchange of medals. Now we both have two more complete sets.
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BigA
    Thanks go out to BackRoadJunkie.for a smooth exchange of medals. Now we both have two more complete sets.


    Ditto. Very painless. Thank you.

    Was at the bank anyway, so I picked up their sister to do a family portrait. I think it's funny that the coin you sent seems to be rotated a bit clockwise, and my silver medal seems to be rotated a bit counterclockwise...

    image

    I'll be putting photoshop to the test soon and do some overlays of the medal vs. the coin. Since the dies were digitally generated, I would expect the designs to be exactly the same...
  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    Ummm...maybe I'm missing the point but aren't the medals just rotated IN the slab?

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