How picky are you about the holder your coins are in?

Im curious as I sit and look at about 10 world coins in NGC holders that I have accumulated through shows and auctions and ponder cracking and sending them to PCGS. My collection is 90% PCGS, basically excluding these 10 coins. I can;t help feeling the "itch" to continue to have consistency in my collection and crack/cross these coins over to PCGS. It isn't about the elitism per se, more the consistency.
Do you have a similar "itch"
Do you have a similar "itch"
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Yes, I feel as you do. Consistency.
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Used to not care at all. I'd buy ANACS, NGC, PCGS, ICG....and I still have at least a few of each.
But I do have registry sets. And while I'm not exactly "competitive" in them, having an ICG or ANACS coin in my collection that I can't put in the registry just bugs me. Someday, I'll either cross them, or upgrade them, as appropriate.
The other thing that "bugs" me is that the physical holder I actually like the LEAST (PCGS...for purely mechanical reasons), is actually the most desirable for liquidity reasons. Guess that's why I don't go all the way, and limit myself to a single holder.
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Not at all, buy the coin
I don't think the OP is talking about buying coins in different holders. I think he means getting them all in the same holders once he has them. I may be wrong, but that is how I took it.
As far as buying I will buy a coin in any holder or raw if it is a coin I need or want and I like it. Because it is all about the coin.
if i like the coin inside, i might re-holder if any of the following are true:
1. the holder is damaged
2. the holder doesn't match a set i am building
3. i believe the coin might be worth more in another holder
4. i want a professional photo done
5. i want a certain label
6. i don't agree with the grade on the current holder
i recognize that some holders are collectible, even if i don't collect them. so, i might not re-holder the coin if i believe the current holder is something that adds a premium.
so, it depends on a lot of factors.
That being said, I prefer to reholder to maintain consistency...
Cheers
Bob
I have one set that is entirely PCGS, and I've taken a few expensive downgrades on NGC coins to keep the set consistent.
I have another set that is entirely NGC, and I've cracked coins out of PCGS holders and sent to NGC.
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Once I finish my sets, someday, and happy with all the coins on their own merits, I'll spring for the fees to get the whole shebang slabbed by PCGS and sent to CAC
(and whatever else is in vogue by then) and then they'll all "match"
Until then, I have no itch to submit anything to anyone, if anything, I yearn to crack it all out and put them in flips, envelopes, and albums so that I can experience their "coin-ness" rather than their plasticness.
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For everything else, I stick to PCGS and NGC but will admit to a few stray Anacs and Segs holders.
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I have several NGC's which will probably get submitted to PCGS soon.
They weren't secure, but were the perfect size.
I prefer PCGS for the look and feel and would like to have 100% PCGS for consistency and have tried (i.e. spent money) to achieve that.
Alas, I still have a number of mostly NGC slabs that didn't cross.
I lost whatever interest I had in the Registry 15 years ago even though I still have a few sets. One I did just to get it pedigreed but it was easy to build a gold type set back then.
I like the consistent look, I prefer the appearance of the holder, I can take better pictures because the optics are superior and the slabs clean-up more easily. And of course because the market prefers PCGS.
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The community has abandoned the perfect holder - Small ANACS.
They weren't secure, but were the perfect size.
I prefer PCGS for the look and feel and would like to have 100% PCGS for consistency and have tried (i.e spent money) to achieve that.
Alas, I still have a number of mostly NGC slabs that didn't cross.
I agree on the Old White ANACS holders, but they are not making them anywore and appear not to hear about the customer who have requested a revisit back to that design.
That being said (again) I will stick with PCGS for consistancy on their holder design.
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If the holder is at first "NOT RIGHT" then it will be eventually.
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holders matter to me only if i like the coin inside.
if i like the coin inside, i might re-holder if any of the following are true:
1. the holder is damaged
2. the holder doesn't match a set i am building
3. i believe the coin might be worth more in another holder
4. i want a professional photo done
5. i want a certain label
6. i don't agree with the grade on the current holder
i recognize that some holders are collectible, even if i don't collect them. so, i might not re-holder the coin if i believe the current holder is something that adds a premium.
so, it depends on a lot of factors.
Pretty much my opinion as well...
Edited to say.... I'm mainly after the coin. I buy raw too. The holder is always secondary.
Raw (without a TPG "house" around it),PCGS,NGC,ICG,ANACS,Coin World (excellent and inexpensive holder,3 for $5)all work for me if I like the coin and can afford to buy it.
The most important reason for the holder is to protect the coin.I can show my coin in TPG or CW holder or sealed Saflip to others without fretting about the coin being mishandled and subsequently damaged.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
The community has abandoned the perfect holder - Small ANACS.
They weren't secure, but were the perfect size.
I love the old ANACS white holders.
Cheers
Bob
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I have no preference, buy the coin.
I have most PCGS followed by NGC with a couple of ANA and some small white ANACS . I would prefer all my Buffs were in PCGS holders for the reason they are better versed in grading Buffalo nickel's. Of course this is just my opinion but yes, I like PCGS for other reason too.
Edited to say.... I'm mainly after the coin. I buy raw too. The holder is always secondary.
Well said. I agree.
That might be even dumber!!!
Let's look at a couple examples:
Example #1 - 1808 HE. I purchased this coin 3-4 months ago at a very good price in an NGC AU-55 holder. I originally bought it with the intent to sell it for a modest profit. I knew it would be a stretch for PCGS to cross it at grade, so I submitted it for crossover @ minimum AU-50. It came back as an AU-53, and dog gone it, this girl really grew on me to the point where I've decided to keep it.
Example #2 - 1859-C HE. Recently purchased also. This is a coin that speaks for itself... accurately, if not undergraded at NGC AU-53. Exceptionally crusty, original skin that speaks for itself. It'll stay as is, in the holder it's in, for since the day I purchased it, I knew it wouldn't be going anywhere for a long time.
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For me the coin needs to be graded by NGC or PCGS. Either service is fine with me. I buy the coin.
I am more concerned about the grade than the holder, as long it is PCGS or NGC only.
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For me the coin needs to be graded by NGC or PCGS. Either service is fine with me. I buy the coin.
I am more concerned about the grade than the holder, as long it is PCGS or NGC only.
I'll take it a step further. I'm more concerned with the coin then the grade on the holder. I just like the final resting place to be in a PCGS holder
mark
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For me the coin needs to be graded by NGC or PCGS. Either service is fine with me. I buy the coin.
I am more concerned about the grade than the holder, as long it is PCGS or NGC only.
I'll take it a step further. I'm more concerned with the coin then the grade on the holder. I just like the final resting place to be in a PCGS holder
mark
I didn't explain myself well enough. I meant that the coin's not under-graded.
For example--It would bother me more to have a true 65 coin in a PCGS 64 holder than a true 65 in an NGC 65 holder.
That is the only way I'd crack a coin---to get the proper grade not the proper holder.
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I do prefer PCGS for a number of reasons but I really like their inventory manager which can be downloaded to excel and makes inventory pricing, accounting easy. Coin Facts is another reason main reason in addition to market factors.