2016 Mark Twain Commems (16CL, 16CK, 16CJ, 16CH) -- Final
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Final sales data can be found here:
2016 Mark Twain Weekly Sales Data
Original Post:
Sales starts in 3 weeks!
The mint has put up placeholder pages for the 2016 Twain Commems:
Mark Twain 2016 Uncirculated Silver Dollar
Mark Twain 2016 Proof Silver Dollar
Mark Twain 2016 $5 Gold Uncirculated Coin
Mark Twain 2016 $5 Gold Proof Coin
The mint has also released the laser frosting pattern used on the coins:
Blue: Heavy Frosting
Orange: Standard Frosting
Purple: Light Frosting
Yellow: Proof Surface
Other Stuff:
Release date: Jan 14, 2016 @ Noon Eastern
Mintage:
100K $5 Gold
350K $1 Silver
Silver Pricing has been posted to the Federal Register:
Gold will be priced as per the standard $5 Gold Commem schedule at time of release.
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Goodness. I like both coins. I would buy both gold over the Pt proof, I think...
$1 Silver:
$5 Gold:
Mint's Press Release:
Mark Twain Commemorative Coin Designs Unveiled
Mintage:
100K Gold
350K Silver
No household limits or release dates announced.
2016 Mark Twain Weekly Sales Data
Original Post:
Sales starts in 3 weeks!
The mint has put up placeholder pages for the 2016 Twain Commems:
Mark Twain 2016 Uncirculated Silver Dollar
Mark Twain 2016 Proof Silver Dollar
Mark Twain 2016 $5 Gold Uncirculated Coin
Mark Twain 2016 $5 Gold Proof Coin
The mint has also released the laser frosting pattern used on the coins:
Blue: Heavy Frosting
Orange: Standard Frosting
Purple: Light Frosting
Yellow: Proof Surface
Other Stuff:
Release date: Jan 14, 2016 @ Noon Eastern
Mintage:
100K $5 Gold
350K $1 Silver
Silver Pricing has been posted to the Federal Register:
| Coin | Introductory price | Regular price |
|---|---|---|
| Silver Proof | $45.95 | $50.95 |
| Silver Uncirculated | 44.95 | 49.95 |
--(original message follows)--
Goodness. I like both coins. I would buy both gold over the Pt proof, I think...
$1 Silver:
$5 Gold:
Mint's Press Release:
Mark Twain Commemorative Coin Designs Unveiled
Mintage:
100K Gold
350K Silver
No household limits or release dates announced.
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it may be fine on paper with shading, but how it translates into metal may be significantly different
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
At least this one is not another military issue, although he was in the Confederate army for two weeks.
Mark Twain has been on a United States "coin" before, a 1981 one ounce gold medal:
American Arts Commemorative Series 1981 medal - Mark Twain
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When I first saw the design for the dollar, I thought that the "knight" was Joan of Arc,
because Mark Twain spent ten years researching her and published a book in 1895.
However, the knight is from his novel "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court".
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I like Don Everhart's portrait on the $5 piece. I've seen his plaster work-in-progress, and it's very impressive. I think it will make a neat little gold coin.
The word I was trying to type starts with P, then an A, then S and another S.
DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
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Don
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I will buy one of these . . . just so the students can see that I am not the only one who has found value and significance in Twain. It'll make a nice handout (in an AirTite!).
Drunner
How does the Mint deceide wether to strike a half dollar or not?
Cheers, RickO
As I've often said about mint drawings to show what a coin will look like,
it may be fine on paper with shading, but how it translates into metal may be significantly different
While I agree, there have been a couple of surprises, such as the Blue Ridge quarter and the 2015 Au Liberty HR. I was unimpressed with the line art, but thought the actual execution looked much better.
The silver might be a bit busy in-hand, but I think the gold will translate well.
Nice designs.... I like the $5 gold coin... would prefer to see it on a larger coin though.
Cheers, RickO
Yeah, put it on a 5oz Ag puck or even a 3" bronze. (I have a romanticized vision of paddleboats on the Mississippi. So what if the boilers blew up...)
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Still no 2016 product schedule posted...
What is he smoking that Huck Finn comes out of his pipe?
It was Samuel Clemens. His reputation would dictate it wasn't tobacco.
HAhahahaha....
What no Half Dollar?
How does the Mint deceide wether to strike a half dollar or not?
The legislation that goes through Congress and is signed into law by the president determines the specifics of a new coin program... which denominations are to be struck, metal content, maximum mintages, dhow the designs are to be selected, etc.
The Mint simply follows the law...
I was just thinking the other day we didn't have enough frogs on our coins but now I see it's been taken care of.
Too funny.
But after a quick search, I'm thinking of starting a collection.
http://www.collectorscornerusa...ized/nature/frogs.html
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What no Half Dollar?
How does the Mint deceide wether to strike a half dollar or not?
I think Congress decides if there will be a half dollar. It's too bad there isn't one. The half dollar is more affordable for young collectors, and it also is used in the young collectors' sets.
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Well, just Love coins, period.
What no Half Dollar?
The Mint doesn't decide, Congress does.
How does the Mint deceide wether to strike a half dollar or not?
Mark Twain is probably laughing at the coin's motto "In God We Trust".
At least this one is not another military issue, although he was in the Confederate army for two weeks.
Mark Twain has been on a United States "coin" before, a 1981 one ounce gold medal:
American Arts Commemorative Series 1981 medal - Mark Twain
Nice issue but with a mintage of 116,371 1981 medals, I'm sure the coin will have a much lower mintage.
...who would have ever thought that the new trend in coin design would be frogs?
I'm guessing this design theme isn't a big hit in France.
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What no Half Dollar?
How does the Mint deceide wether to strike a half dollar or not?
The legislation that goes through Congress and is signed into law by the president determines the specifics of a new coin program... which denominations are to be struck, metal content, maximum mintages, dhow the designs are to be selected, etc.
The Mint simply follows the law...
I can't remember the last time the mint offered two clad commens in the same year. I don't think they issued any in 2010 or 2012. In 2011, Army got one, but MoH did not. 2013, 5-star generals got one, but Girl Scouts did not. 2014, BBHoF got one, but Civil Rights did not. Last year, Marshalls got a clad, but MoD did not.
Seems the mint is pressing out a full set of commems for one issue, and only the silver or silver/gold commems for the alternate yearly issue.
I was just thinking the other day we didn't have enough frogs on our coins but now I see it's been taken care of.
Too funny.
But after a quick search, I'm thinking of starting a collection.
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You can add the clad version of the NPS commem to your list...
I suspect some sort of Kermit Konspiracy...
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$5 Gold Proof: Mark Twain 2016 $5 Gold Proof Coin (16CH)
$5 Gold Uncirc: Mark Twain 2016 $5 Gold Uncirculated Coin (16CJ)
$1 Silver Proof: Mark Twain 2016 Proof Silver Dollar (16CK)
$1 Silver Uncirc: Mark Twain 2016 Uncirculated Silver Dollar (16CL)
Gold mintage: 100K
Silver mintage: 350K
Product Limit: None
Household Order Limit: None
Not appreciating China driving up the price of gold. If gold stays above $1100, the proof will be $381.15, the uncirc will be $376.15. (If the weekly average falls below $1100, the prices will be $369.00 and $364.00 respectively.)
Introductory price for the silver proof will be $45.95, the uncirc will be $44.95. (Wasn't the price spread between the proof and uncirc more than a dollar previously?)
I have no plans for any coins from this program. Thanks Mint for helping me break my bad buying habits.
Horrible Coins are sometimes a very good thing for "Collectors".
That means they get to ding you on shipping twice, should you not want to wait.
Better to to this than have some cluster- next Thursday, I guess...
In a surprise move, the mint has pushed back the release of the silver coins (16CL and 16CK) two weeks to January 27, to insure there's enough product to handle the launch of the commems.
Now the Silver is missing from the schedule. Mint page for the dollar says
"This product will be available for sale in 2016." Mint News Blog says release is "To Be Determined"
It could be 2 weeks, could be next month or December. The mint's mind is a hard thing to read.
Now the Silver is missing from the schedule. Mint page for the dollar says
"This product will be available for sale in 2016." Mint News Blog says release is "To Be Determined"
It could be 2 weeks, could be next month or December. The mint's mind is a hard thing to read.
Maybe it depends on sales of the Gold versions -- which will be released 1/14/2016 at noon (ET).
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Now the Silver is missing from the schedule. Mint page for the dollar says
"This product will be available for sale in 2016." Mint News Blog says release is "To Be Determined"
It could be 2 weeks, could be next month or December. The mint's mind is a hard thing to read.
Maybe it depends on sales of the Gold versions -- which will be released 1/14/2016 at noon (ET).
Production is mandated by congress critters. The mint will have to release them regardless.
Makes me wonder if they found an error on the coins or packaging for them to have yanked them from the product schedule so close to release.
So far, average gold price is still higher than $1100. How fast will they sell the 100K? (Maybe 60-65K proofs and 35-40K uncircs?) It might be a gamble to wait a week to see if the gold price comes down if the gold spot average stays above $1100.
I'd wait, but the bbhof gold caught me by surprise...
That means they get to ding you on shipping twice, should you not want to wait.
Better to to this than have some cluster- next Thursday, I guess...
The mint will only charge you once even if they have to ship your items twice.
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In a surprise move, the mint has pushed back the release of the silver coins (16CL and 16CK) two weeks to January 27, to insure there's enough product to handle the launch of the commems.
That means they get to ding you on shipping twice, should you not want to wait.
Better to to this than have some cluster- next Thursday, I guess...
The mint will only charge you once even if they have to ship your items twice.
True, there is only one shipping charge for an order with multiple items shipping as multiple times. However, if you purchase the gold Thursday and the silver when its released in the future there would be a new shipping charge for the silver order. This isn't a major factor in the buying decision for me or a factor to the mint.
I think this separation of gold and silver coins is due to a glitch discovered by the mint as surmised by others. The glitch could be reveled after Thursdays gold debut along with an estimated availability date.
Any update on when the silver dollar will be out, and why they are at different dates?
I called the Mint a few hours ago. No news on a release date for the silver dollar.
The gold is still scheduled for this Thursday 1/14/2016.
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Any update on when the silver dollar will be out, and why they are at different dates?
I called the Mint a few hours ago. No news on a release date for the silver dollar.
The gold is still scheduled for this Thursday 1/14/2016.
Thx.
" ...the Mint has to print and process new certificates before it can move ahead with the release"