Supposedly the delay in the release of the silver dollar coins is to print new certificates of authenticity (COAs) as the old ones have a mistake placing Twain's characters Huckleberry Finn and Jim in his book The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, instead of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.
" ...the Mint has to print and process new certificates before it can move ahead with the release"
What pudding heads!!!!
LOL!
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Was there any plausible reason announced for why Congress, in its infinite wisdom, chose the year 2016 for these coins instead of some other random year?
May we assume that it was just a year that didn't have anything hot going for it with the current two programs a year limit?
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Was there any plausible reason announced for why Congress, in its infinite wisdom, chose the year 2016 for these coins instead of some other random year?
May we assume that it was just a year that didn't have anything hot going for it with the current two programs a year limit?
Anybody?
Class?
Bueller?
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I've not followed this one closely. No HH limits, large possible mintage. Is there any reason to expect that these will do well or do you all just like the coin and are ordering for that reason?
I've not followed this one closely. No HH limits, large possible mintage. Is there any reason to expect that these will do well or do you all just like the coin and are ordering for that reason?
Like the coin. 100k limit between PF & UNC so expecting the usual 2/3 PF, 1/3 UNC give or take. May not hit the max mintage.
Originally posted by: Raufus I've not followed this one closely. No HH limits, large possible mintage. Is there any reason to expect that these will do well or do you all just like the coin and are ordering for that reason?
I like the coin. First commem in years that I've liked the design.
What a pain! Now I'll have to pay two shipping charnges. It's also too bad that the mint is not offering a two piece set. I prefer those to the single coins.
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Wait until the silver is available and order both the silver and the gold then. No double shipping charge.
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Originally posted by: CaptHenway Was there any plausible reason announced for why Congress, in its infinite wisdom, chose the year 2016 for these coins instead of some other random year?
May we assume that it was just a year that didn't have anything hot going for it with the current two programs a year limit?
Anybody? Class? Bueller?
I actually looked this one up.
The bill was originally introduced in 2008, for a 2010 release, but failed to get passed. So it was supposed to be a centennial release, but the Boy Scouts got their centennial commem instead in 2010.
Rather than let it die, you just need to follow the money. It was re-introduced in April 2012 by John Larson (CT) and cosponsored by Barbara Lee (CA), Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO) and Eric Massa (NY). Where is the surcharge dollars going?
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March 15th, wow. Even though i think first strike is stupid, fs for this coin might fetch a nice premium if the mint doesnt get these out for 2 months.
Originally posted by: OperationButter March 15th, wow. Even though i think first strike is stupid, fs for this coin might fetch a nice premium if the mint doesnt get these out for 2 months.
Well, let's add fuel to the fire! mintnewsblog.com reports:
Update 1/15/2016: Approximately 5,000 Proof and 2,000 Uncirculated 2016 Mark Twain commemorative gold coins have been sold at the time of this writing (3:15 p.m.), according to Michael White of the U.S. Mint.
If the mint only stamped out 5K proofs and (I assume, and you know what that means) only 5K uncircs, then you are certainly correct, the first strike/early release labels might be worthwhile.
These were going to go into my collection raw, but if by week 3 the mint hasn't released more gold, then I may send mine in.
This certainly wasn't anticipated. I could tell from the lack of order number posts that this isn't a super popular pair of coins. Maybe the delay of the silver coins affected sales. Maybe the lack of a gold and silver 2 coin set option.
It appears the Mint wasn't all in either with only 5,000 proofs in stock and ready at the opening bell. What about the Mint statement that their goal was to have sufficient stock on hand to satisfy demand. Apparently not. Kinda the opposite. A lack of enthusiasm more like it. Can we expect the Uncirculated version to also go on back order in the next day or two?
I hadn't thought about FS on these or even grading. BackroadJunkie mentions an interesting plan which I may follow. When they arrive early next week I'll have to put on my super critical spectacles and take a long look for 70 quality.
Just idly speculating, but I wonder if there was some problem with the gold COA's as well that is causing them to be repackaged with new COA's, and they only had 5,000 of each ready by release date.
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And FWIW, I just noticed that the mailing I received last week misspells "Calaveras" in two different places as "Calavaras."
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Ordered one of each. PR was backorder but my card was charged for the full amount of both. Not sure whats going on there but would be nice to get the PR with my MS thats on its way to me.
Yet ANOTHER poor design by the US Mint. Compared to the coins coming out of other countries, most of our modern commems are flat out amateurish and UGLY. Why does it have to be like this? Cost? Political correctness, lack of oversight? All of the above?? Its just ponderous man. Ponderous.
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Sounds as good a reason as any.
Source:
http://news.coinupdate.com/del...silver-coins-explained
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Coin Update published this explanation: LINK
" ...the Mint has to print and process new certificates before it can move ahead with the release"
What pudding heads!!!!
LOL!
May we assume that it was just a year that didn't have anything hot going for it with the current two programs a year limit?
LOL!
What flavor puddin? Mint of course
Coin Update published this explanation: LINK
" ...the Mint has to print and process new certificates before it can move ahead with the release"
Good link, thanks.
I don't usually read the certificates. But this time I will... maybe they'll mistakenly use the wrong certificates.
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Unc Gold $359
LINK
LOL!
What flavor puddin? Mint of course
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pudd%27nhead_Wilson
Was there any plausible reason announced for why Congress, in its infinite wisdom, chose the year 2016 for these coins instead of some other random year?
May we assume that it was just a year that didn't have anything hot going for it with the current two programs a year limit?
Anybody?
Class?
Bueller?
One of each
0 trouble or delay
edit to add: email received @ 4 minutes after the hour.
Wish all opening availability at the Mint went this smooth
One proof, one uncirc.
USM038854xx
Edit to add: Got order ack already.
can`t order the silver ?
Check above posts or HERE
I've not followed this one closely. No HH limits, large possible mintage. Is there any reason to expect that these will do well or do you all just like the coin and are ordering for that reason?
Like the coin. 100k limit between PF & UNC so expecting the usual 2/3 PF, 1/3 UNC give or take. May not hit the max mintage.
I've not followed this one closely. No HH limits, large possible mintage. Is there any reason to expect that these will do well or do you all just like the coin and are ordering for that reason?
I like the coin. First commem in years that I've liked the design.
can`t order the silver ?
Check above posts or HERE
What a pain! Now I'll have to pay two shipping charnges. It's also too bad that the mint is not offering a two piece set. I prefer those to the single coins.
EOY (end of year)
Still available.
MHO
Maybe I'll keep it with my $5 US Marsh
all coin nobody will pay melt for.
Sorry folks - I bought one of each $5 gold so it will be a flop
Maybe I'll keep it with my $5 US Marsh
Last word goes to you.
Sorry folks - I bought one of each $5 gold so it will be a flop
Maybe I'll keep it with my $5 US Marsh
I feel your pain on this one.
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Proof is "currently unavailable". (They're not even taking orders.) I wonder how many they pre-struck? 20K?
Sorry folks - I bought one of each $5 gold so it will be a flop
Maybe I'll keep it with my $5 US Marsh
lol.
The last gold commem I bought was the bbhof. Before that, I can't remember the last one I bought. Bald Eagle, probably.
I haven't been enamored with commemorative gold.
Was there any plausible reason announced for why Congress, in its infinite wisdom, chose the year 2016 for these coins instead of some other random year?
May we assume that it was just a year that didn't have anything hot going for it with the current two programs a year limit?
Anybody?
Class?
Bueller?
I actually looked this one up.
The bill was originally introduced in 2008, for a 2010 release, but failed to get passed. So it was supposed to be a centennial release, but the Boy Scouts got their centennial commem instead in 2010.
Rather than let it die, you just need to follow the money. It was re-introduced in April 2012 by John Larson (CT) and cosponsored by Barbara Lee (CA), Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO) and Eric Massa (NY). Where is the surcharge dollars going?
Connecticut, California, Missouri and New York.
Here is the law as it currently stands:
PUBLIC LAW 112–201—DEC. 4, 2012
My order still hasn't shipped. What's wrong with the Mint?
Proof is "currently unavailable". (They're not even taking orders.) I wonder how many they pre-struck? 20K?
28 available now...they are probably striking as needed....
I did not want to order the proof version but I did see that the Mint webpage shows unavailable for it.
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Email notice my order has shipped
What he said.
I placed an order for the gold $5 uncirculated on January 15 at 12:00pm PST.
I did not want to order the proof version but I did see that the Mint webpage shows unavailable for it.
The proof version is available again, but on a back order basis with a March 15 fill date.
That means they'll probably be available next week... ;-)
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March 15th, wow. Even though i think first strike is stupid, fs for this coin might fetch a nice premium if the mint doesnt get these out for 2 months.
Well, let's add fuel to the fire!
If the mint only stamped out 5K proofs and (I assume, and you know what that means) only 5K uncircs, then you are certainly correct, the first strike/early release labels might be worthwhile.
These were going to go into my collection raw, but if by week 3 the mint hasn't released more gold, then I may send mine in.
Ah, what a silly game this is. HAhahahaha...
It appears the Mint wasn't all in either with only 5,000 proofs in stock and ready at the opening bell. What about the Mint statement that their goal was to have sufficient stock on hand to satisfy demand. Apparently not. Kinda the opposite. A lack of enthusiasm more like it. Can we expect the Uncirculated version to also go on back order in the next day or two?
I hadn't thought about FS on these or even grading. BackroadJunkie mentions an interesting plan which I may follow. When they arrive early next week I'll have to put on my super critical spectacles and take a long look for 70 quality.
Or who can resist an uncirculated MS-69 for only $645: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-W...0d3:g:8L4AAOSwwPhWjmhB
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Gold proof still backordered, Gold Uncirc still available, Still no silver date.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
Proof:
Uncirculated:
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Unc still available, PF still B/O. FS cutoff date shows TBD.
Silver...not yet
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I'm wondering if I should use my expiring grading voucher to get these done, or, pick others in my collection to submit.
Gold proof still backordered, Gold Uncirc still available, Still no silver date.
United States $5 2016 Mark Twain Uncirculated
It will go nicely with this which I ordered direct from the US Treasury in 1982 for $340:
United States American Arts Medal 1981 Mark Twain
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Just got mine today. The MS was rattling around with the case open, but looks OK. The PR is fine.
What? Coins rattling in the package? Surely you are pulling my lariat.
How is the flip going?
J/W
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