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Lost Nazi train with 300 tons of gold found?

jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
Interesting story. If it is true, is there any chance there could be American coins on the train?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/europe/poland-nazi-train-mystery/index.html

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting...will see what plays out.

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  • 300 tons of Gold...
    well over one million dollars worth....
    Ya think ?!.. good grief....
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  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Geez, how does stuff like that stay hidden so long? Very cool
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  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭
    If that much gold suddenly appeared on the gold market, it would cause a drop in prices globally.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,479 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Geez, how does stuff like that stay hidden so long? Very cool >>



    According to the article;

    "One of the two has a background in excavation projects and has equipment that can detect objects beneath the surface of the Earth, Tokarska said."

    -and-

    "if the train has been sealed into an underground tunnel then methane could have built up, creating the risk of an explosion if it's disturbed by excavators."

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>300 tons of Gold...
    well over one million dollars worth....
    Ya think ?!.. good grief.... >>



    This is the new math they're reaching in school!

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  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭
    "However, they won't reveal the location of the train until they are given a guarantee that they will be awarded 10% of the value of the treasure inside, she told CNN."

    "Authorities say that before they can make any guarantees, they need to know where the train is and what's inside it."

    Hilarious !!!

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  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"However, they won't reveal the location of the train until they are given a guarantee that they will be awarded 10% of the value of the treasure inside, she told CNN."

    "Authorities say that before they can make any guarantees, they need to know where the train is and what's inside it."

    Hilarious !!! >>



    I think that means that unless they know what they have, they do not know who owns what, and cannot enter into agreements for other peoples property. Since the Nazi's stole so much, its probably a very complex equation as to what they can recover and who owns it. It's certainly fair for them to receive 10%. But, they probably just feel they don't have the authority to negotiate with other peoples property.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    I want my share!!image
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
    What's that, about $8 billion worth of gold --- assuming it's all bullion
    and without any additional historical value?

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The tunnel might also give clues to the NAZI Flying Saucer experiment which btw, is supposed to be somewhere in that area.image

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,534 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>300 tons of Gold...
    well over one million dollars worth....

    Ya think ?!.. good grief.... >>



    They're not wrong!

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  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>What's that, about $8 billion worth of gold --- assuming it's all bullion
    and without any additional historical value? >>



    About 1 weeks worth of interest on our national debt >>



    400 tons of gold is worth $10,033,602,066
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The claimants are probably lining up already ... with the lawyers not far behind.

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dental fillings?
    OK I'll go ahead and say it this probably the death camp gold. Just like robbing a grave to me.
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Find 10 billion in lost gold and then get blown up trying to get it out!
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image. HOGAN. I know You had something to do with this Gold Train going Missing! .....Relax Col Kiink, You had us confined to quarters and No prisoner ever escaped from Stalag 13image
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The train may be there but the gold, I doubt it..... Just a gut feeling. Anyone remember Geraldo Rivera finding Al Capones safe?
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After all this time I find this story is amazing!! So, ya follow the train tracks to a mountain that has been blown up and nobody wants to see what's inside until now? That's crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    300 tons of gold= 10.5 million oz. With gold priced at $.10/ oz. it's worth over $1M!
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Regardless of all the speculation on value and existence and/or American couns, unless it was gold that was mined , by the Germans (unlikely), from German soil (again unlikely), you can bet sure that it was stolen and should be returned to its rightful owners or reparation fund.
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only the attorneys will win. Quite interesting from historical perspective though.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This would be bigger than Samaszkos gold hoard in Las Vegas. I wonder if this is coins, bars, or what? I would think a lot of Swiss, French, Italy 20 Franc gold coins.
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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Red Army took anything moveable so if there was such a train it's in Russia.

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  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This would be bigger than Samaszkos gold hoard in Las Vegas. I wonder if this is coins, bars, or what? I would think a lot of Swiss, French, Italy 20 Franc gold coins. >>



    More likely old crowns and fillings...
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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Park a trainload of precious metals in a tunnel, walk away, nobody ever says anything, discovered 70 years later.

    LOLOLLOL
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The tunnel might also give clues to the NAZI Flying Saucer experiment which btw, is supposed to be somewhere in that area.image

    NAZI saucer test site in Poland >>



    10,000 oz of Gold ???? ,, want 10% guaranteed ??? seems like they were hitting the vodka

    Americans /allies had teams work for years after end of War to find stolen items / art ??
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Park a trainload of precious metals in a tunnel, walk away, nobody ever says anything, discovered 70 years later.

    LOLOLLOL >>



    Tunnel could of been closed be P-51's in the vicinty it was a war you know.



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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There aren't that many mountains in Poland. How many old rail lines can there be that lead up to a mountain and just stop?
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    " 300 tons , my ass " thought the fat lady.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a believe it when I see it situation. Right now, I don't believe it.
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  • DBSTrader2DBSTrader2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭✭
    My opinion?

    If the train didn't already fall into Soviet hands at the end of the War, then Putin's likely already massing his troops to invade Poland next! imageimage
  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    Tell me it isn't so !image
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Park a trainload of precious metals in a tunnel, walk away, nobody ever says anything, discovered 70 years later.

    LOLOLLOL >>



    Tunnel could of been closed be P-51's in the vicinty it was a war you know.



    image >>



    Not sure if the Russians had any P-51's
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  • planonitplanonit Posts: 525 ✭✭
    I think the odds are about 0.0001% but am I missing something?

    300 TONS of gold which is what people keep throwing around is nearly $700 MILLION dollars on raw bullion.

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a $1,000,000.00 in gold would be about 72 to 73 pounds of gold.

    300 tons would be worth sooo much more that a $1,000,000.00
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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>a $1,000,000.00 in gold would be about 72 to 73 pounds of gold.

    300 tons would be worth sooo much more that a $1,000,000.00 >>

    Yeah, more like $1,000,039
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,957 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image. HOGAN. I know You had something to do with this Gold Train going Missing! .....Relax Col Kiink, You had us confined to quarters and No prisoner ever escaped from Stalag 13image >>

    Shultzy knew something though image
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Park a trainload of precious metals in a tunnel, walk away, nobody ever says anything, discovered 70 years later.

    LOLOLLOL >>



    Tunnel could of been closed be P-51's in the vicinty it was a war you know.



    image >>



    Not sure if the Russians had any P-51's >>



    We were allies in that war who knows what all we gave them.

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Park a trainload of precious metals in a tunnel, walk away, nobody ever says anything, discovered 70 years later.

    LOLOLLOL >>



    Tunnel could of been closed be P-51's in the vicinty it was a war you know.



    image >>



    Not sure if the Russians had any P-51's >>



    We were allies in that war who knows what all we gave them.

    image >>



    FYI...

    The Soviet Union received at least 10 early-model ex-RAF Mustang Mk I's but found them to "under-perform" compared to contemporary USSR fighters, relegating them to training units. Therefore, it's more likely that a YAK-3 was flown to do the "hypothetical" damage.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If that much gold suddenly appeared on the gold market, it would cause a drop in prices globally. >>



    No it wouldn't. The IMF for years (2002-2009) was "threatening" to sell their final stash of "unallocated" gold of 200 tonnes. Every time they trotted that statement out, the gold price would fall from $20-$50/oz. When they finally announced India's central bank bought it, price only continued higher. The ECB had annual gold sales of 400 tonnes per year from 1999-2008....during most of those years the gold price rose.

    And anyone having that much gold wouldn't just drop it all at once into the market. They would probably piece-meal it to maintain higher prices. I'm sure if they contacted PBOC directly they would be happy to purchase all 300 tonnes for current NY futures market price ($1160). There are several nations currently on longer term gold buying sprees of 5-25 tonnes per month. So selling those 300 tonnes to them would never hit the retail market and would have no effect on market "paper" prices. But, the pricing on a deal of 5-25 tonnes is probably considerably higher than stated NY market prices.

    World gold supply is on the order of 3500-4500 tonnes per year. Another 10%/300 tonnes isn't going to mean squat when there's already 165,000 tonnes above ground in people's hands. $8 BILL worth of gold covers 2 days of the US operating budget....not much.

    The Germans are owed approx 300 tonnes of gold by the US govt (kept in NY). Maybe JPM tried to send the gold to Germany by underground Atlantic train....the train took a wrong turn and ended up in the mountains. Sounds like Germany's gold to me. Finders keepers.....possession is 9 tenths of the law. Worth $10.169 BILL at today's NY closing price. NO ONE is getting a 10% finder's fee on any gold. They'd either be placed in prison or executed for trying such a scheme.

    300 tonnes of gold fits easily into a small bed room
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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The train itself is worth big bucks. There will probably be a fight over who owns it.
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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The train itself is worth big bucks. There will probably be a fight over who owns it.
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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There was a lot of chaos on the Axis side and many items disappeared at the end of the war. Albert Speer hid many of the assets he had stolen in a cave and got his greedy hands on them when he was let out of Spandau Prison after twenty years. Mussolini's personal papers disappeared when he was captured and have never been found. Anything is possible.
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  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭
    Phony story.. most of the railroads in Poland during WW11... now in other countries like Ukraine
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Phony story.. most of the railroads in Poland during WW11... now in other countries like Ukraine >>



    Bingo...especially the "phony story" part.
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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Surprisingly, it's starting to look real.
    The guys used ground-penetrating radar, and a Polish official has "bought in" to their demands for a 10% cut.
    http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-poland-nazi-gold-train-20150828-story.html

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