Coins produced from shattered dies

Sonorandesertrat · March 21, 2015 12:53AM

I find late die states fascinating. Soo...let's see some cracks! No xeroxed images, please.

savoyspecial · March 21, 2015 1:03AM

coinsarefun · March 21, 2015 5:53AM

coinkid855 · March 21, 2015 7:26AM

SmEagle1795 · March 21, 2015 7:38AM

I've since sold this coin in order to make way for my new collecting pursuits but it remains one of my favorite examples of cracked dies:

Christos · March 21, 2015 7:42AM

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Now that is some serious cracks and clashed also very cool. I have a number of these tokens but none like that, would love to have it.

Sonorandesertrat · March 21, 2015 7:48AM

Wonderful 1863 token!

Unknown · March 21, 2015 8:05AM

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lkeigwin · March 21, 2015 8:30AM

GeorgeKellogg · March 21, 2015 9:04AM

Here's a coin that I bought at the 1995 Early Spring ANA in Atlanta and later had it crossed -- from NGC to PCGS (at the same grade). The die crack on the reverse runs from rim to rim -- and goes through the upper arrowhead. The images are courtesy of BluCC Photos.

scubafuel · March 21, 2015 9:28AM

That's a beautiful late-state 1836 quarter. It looks like there is even a cud forming along the crack that goes through Liberty's ear.

UltraHighRelief · March 21, 2015 10:30AM

EastonCollection · March 21, 2015 10:39AM

Very late die state - 1797 dime. Very broken!!!!

howards · March 21, 2015 10:42AM

There will be many candidates among shield nickels. Would take me a long time sorting through thousands of photos looking for the best ones.

messydesk · March 21, 2015 11:16AM

This shattered enough for you?

Nocerino18 · March 21, 2015 11:16AM

Roosevelt Dime

This is one we just sold. Really cool!

Sonorandesertrat · March 21, 2015 12:39PM

<< That's a beautiful late-state 1836 quarter. It looks like there is even a cud forming along the crack that goes through Liberty's ear. >>

There is. I bought that from Ankur, so I am sure he recognized it.

oih82w8 · March 21, 2015 12:48PM

Not quite the "Baseball" cracked reverse, more of a "fire breathing Eagle";

1841-O Large Mintmark WB-101 PCGS XF45

oih82w8 · March 21, 2015 12:53PM

1866 5C Rays PCGS AU55

1883 5C WC PCGS AU53

AUandAG · March 21, 2015 1:27PM

CaptHenway · March 21, 2015 11:07PM

Not mine, but one I wrote up:

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AUandAG · March 22, 2015 12:33AM

Wow, is right on that cud and retained die fragment....

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Sonorandesertrat · March 22, 2015 12:40AM

<< Not mine, but one I wrote up:

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Really neat article!

CaptHenway · March 22, 2015 12:44AM

Still the only piece of die steel known with the matching cud coin.

ricko · March 22, 2015 12:47AM

Some amazing specimens in this thread... that last one with the actual die piece is really interesting...Cheers, RickO

Moldnut · March 22, 2015 12:57AM

One of my favorites

CaptHenway · March 22, 2015 6:56AM

Didn't mean to scare y'all off..........

OKbustchaser · March 22, 2015 11:58PM

oih82w8 · March 23, 2015 3:48AM

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Scarface! VAM 1B, is one of, if not the key to the Morgan variety series...according to VAMWorld.com

johnny9434 · March 23, 2015 4:31AM

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coool

BillJones · March 23, 2015 4:40AM

<< Very late die state - 1797 dime. Very broken!!!!

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WOW! The late Herb Silberman, who was a founder of the Early American Coppers club told me that a 1797 dime like this existed. Now I've seen one. Thanks.

JRocco · March 23, 2015 4:43AM

Yes I know this is a medal.
But talk about shattered dies.

BillJones · March 23, 2015 4:44AM

A broken obverse die plus repunched letters for "TY."

asheland · March 23, 2015 4:50AM

Cool thread!

Sonorandesertrat · March 23, 2015 4:51AM

That Roman (16th-century?) medal is amazing, probably the last one struck from that die.

relicsncoins · March 23, 2015 6:42AM

1814 dime I just had graded.

OnWithTheHunt · March 23, 2015 7:18AM

BryceM · March 23, 2015 7:25AM

I don't know about "shattered" but this thread needs a Peace dollar:

I think I can see 8 distinct die cracks, both obverse & reverse.

Icollecteverything · March 24, 2015 2:25AM

Great thread!

I think when the Broas Pie Bakers first saw one of their tokens struck from a shattered die they must have said, " That looks like a pie that's been sliced! Keep making them."

This one is shattered on both sides plus has a light die clash of the indian on the reverse.

This one is unlisted (at least when I bought it years ago) and they must have been running out of dies so they used two reverses. The first reverse is clean but the 2nd one is shattered with a very heavy clash of the indian head.

I have at least one more of these but it is zinc and I am having trouble getting a good image. It appears to be an early die state when it was just starting to shatter.

CaptHenway · March 24, 2015 2:31AM

The die breaks are so common on the Broas Bros. pieces that I have sometimes wondered if the coiner they used took one of the shattered dies, made a hub from it, and used that hub with raised lines on it to sink brand-new dies with the "die cracks" already in them.

1946Hamm · March 24, 2015 2:54AM

Here is a neat shattered die.

Sonorandesertrat · March 24, 2015 3:05AM

Why are Shield nickels so commonly seen with numerous die cracks? Overuse of the dies, beyond what was done in the production of Liberty nickels, for example? Or perhaps inferiour alloy used to make the dies?

CaptHenway · March 24, 2015 3:22AM

<< Why are Shield nickels so commonly seen with numerous die cracks? Overuse of the dies, beyond what was done in the production of Liberty nickels, for example? Or perhaps inferiour alloy used to make the dies? >>

The 25% nickel alloy used in the coins was too hard for the die steel available at the time. Eventually the die steel improved.

Hersonayala23 · March 30, 2019 11:10PM

1944 P Lincoln Wheat Cent
- Shattered Die Strike w/
-Bi-Level Die Cracks intersecting with

Interior Retained Cud and
Small Rim Cud over
"UNUM".

I hope i titled it correctly im focused on perfecting my craft. Please comment on it to get more of an insight on what visual you fellas get. Thanks

Zoins · March 30, 2019 11:19PM

@CaptHenway said:
The die breaks are so common on the Broas Bros. pieces that I have sometimes wondered if the coiner they used took one of the shattered dies, made a hub from it, and used that hub with raised lines on it to sink brand-new dies with the "die cracks" already in them.

That's an interesting thought. I agree they appear to be super common. I have one that is pretty red and would be curious to see where this goes. I wonder how many we can identify and if they can all be identified as having the same cracks (e.g. hub) vs. having a progression.

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ricko · March 31, 2019 4:14AM

@Hersonayala23.... Welcome aboard... That is an amazing Lincoln cent... Never saw one with cracks like that. Cheers, RickO

1946Hamm · March 31, 2019 4:36AM

Here is a good shattered die.

CharlotteDude · March 31, 2019 5:00AM

Here's one that runs from the first "S" of STATES to the "C" of AMERICA - rim to rim. It had a profound effect on the sharpness of all '54-C strikes (both reverse and obverse) with this broken reverse die. Die options were most certainly limited back in the day at Charlotte, and the mint milked this one for all she was worth.

Fairlaneman · March 31, 2019 5:55AM

Ken

Coins produced from shattered dies

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