Some spectacular coins here, but I can't help but wonder about the definition of "Shattered".
Some of the coins here I would call spectacular cuds but not really shattered.
I think one good qualifying definition is "pie shaped" - the cracks reach the edge of the die in at least 3 places, and go near the center.
This term is used for several LS Dime varieties. https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/major_25_table2.htm
Several of these occur on LS Half Dimes (all are on the Top 100 list):
1839-o V-2b, 2c
1839-o V-5
1840 V-6, 6a, 6b (at first just a "bisecting" crack, then 2 more cracks appear).
1842 V-1a
1843 V-2, 2a
1843 V-7, 7a
1847 V-6a (crack not close to center, maybe not really shattered)
1848 V-6, 6a (cracks not very close to center, though)
1848 V-9
1854 V-8 (close enough to center?)
There is also the 1841 V-9 which has a "bisecting stepped" crack. Does this count as more than one?
Another type of "shattered" would be coins where the die cracks are roughly circular - go through legend or stars near the edge. Several have been shared here. Usually they are in the larger denominations like quarters and half dollars. The cracks do not go near the center, probably because the dies are more massive than the smaller denominations.
I suppose as with many definitions, there can be things that are "just barely" and others which are "close but not quite". Such is life.
Here is a sleeper of a shattered die, 1806 O.125a/T-14 rev DS-5. PCGS has only graded one in the LDS 125a, which I own, VF20. Imaged is the VLDS of 125a that I have not had PCGS attribute, but it is certainly an R-7 rarity in Tompkins rev DS-5. Three massive die breaks from edge towards eagle's head, and a bunch of other minor cracks:
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I know nothing about die cracks or shattered dies. Does this look like a shattered die crack to any of you folks out there on this liberty cap? It looks to me like a crack running from the rim to the chin along the cap to the other rim??? Input please. Jon
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Here is my 1818 B-6 bust quarter. The reverse die has four different die cracks going from the eagle to the rim.
Shattered dies are among my favorites, I need to image more of them.
This is the most prominent example I could think of when "shattered dies" were mentioned.
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Here is a bust quarter with shattered date!
Reverse is cracked in half from 2:30 to 8 o'clock.
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Some spectacular coins here, but I can't help but wonder about the definition of "Shattered".
Some of the coins here I would call spectacular cuds but not really shattered.
This term is used for several LS Dime varieties.
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/major_25_table2.htm
Several of these occur on LS Half Dimes (all are on the Top 100 list):
1839-o V-2b, 2c
1839-o V-5
1840 V-6, 6a, 6b (at first just a "bisecting" crack, then 2 more cracks appear).
1842 V-1a
1843 V-2, 2a
1843 V-7, 7a
1847 V-6a (crack not close to center, maybe not really shattered)
1848 V-6, 6a (cracks not very close to center, though)
1848 V-9
1854 V-8 (close enough to center?)
There is also the 1841 V-9 which has a "bisecting stepped" crack. Does this count as more than one?
Several other coins on the Top 100 have a "bisecting crack", which goes near the center.
Always significant enough to make the Top 100 list, but not quite the same as having that third or fourth crack.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1035720/top-100-seated-half-dime-varieties-list-and-112-page-pdf
I suppose as with many definitions, there can be things that are "just barely" and others which are "close but not quite". Such is life.
The 1797 T-1 rev DS-4 is definitely shattered:
The 1795 T-23 obv DS-3 has three strong die cracks from edge towards center, probably R-7 in this die stage:
I really like the extensive reverse cracking on the 1814 50c O-106a. Does anyone have one to show off? They seem scarce but not impossible to find.
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Here is a sleeper of a shattered die, 1806 O.125a/T-14 rev DS-5. PCGS has only graded one in the LDS 125a, which I own, VF20. Imaged is the VLDS of 125a that I have not had PCGS attribute, but it is certainly an R-7 rarity in Tompkins rev DS-5. Three massive die breaks from edge towards eagle's head, and a bunch of other minor cracks:
Here's another
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Not the best example but this die pairing has a crack going right through the middle of the coin.
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Very cool! I’ve never seen a Saint with cracks that large.
Imagine if this was used to strike something
Love this thread. I could collect nothing but shattered die coins and be happy!
I know nothing about die cracks or shattered dies. Does this look like a shattered die crack to any of you folks out there on this liberty cap? It looks to me like a crack running from the rim to the chin along the cap to the other rim??? Input please. Jon