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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35, 40 on a good day

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    jedmjedm Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    01 S Dime looks 35 to me. Corn kernels are clear which to me brings it to at least 30 and seems to have almost 40 details. So I'm at 35 solid.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd go 35 or 40.

    Nearly 40.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 4, 2021 11:48AM

    The estimated grades range from 30 to 40, centering around 35. That's what I had anticipated, as I would grade the coin a VF 35. Here's the holder with the grade:

    It looks like this group makes an excellent grading team! I think the coin is graded a bit conservatively. I'll be submitting it to PCGS, the question is whether to crack it out or submit for crossover?

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :)

    @JeffMTampa said:
    The estimated grades range from 30 to 40, centering around 35. That's what I had anticipated, as I would grade the coin a VF 35. Here's the holder with the grade:

    It looks like this group makes an excellent grading team! I think the coin is graded a bit conservatively. I'll be submitting it to PCGS, the question is whether to crack it out or submit for crossover?

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffMTampa Jeff, I have no experience with a crossover but I am about to. My '07-S/S/S East NGC AU50 was submitted as a crossover but it has been sitting 2 weeks in "Quality Check" / "Being Imaged" whatever that means in their system. PCGS is definitely beyond the turn-around time estimated for that and one other Barber Dime. I also do not have expectations for ever getting a crossover situation to UPGRADE from NGC. Recently, since I have done much more with crack-outs, I should state I get more "at grade" or one slot lower on the return. Of course my quality-selecting in the first place might be less perfect than your experiences so it makes sense. Of course if I would get out to shows more, I might see better coins too. Who knows.

    • T

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2021 5:01AM

    @sedulous said:
    @JeffMTampa Jeff, I have no experience with a crossover but I am about to. My '07-S/S/S East NGC AU50 was submitted as a crossover but it has been sitting 2 weeks in "Quality Check" / "Being Imaged" whatever that means in their system. PCGS is definitely beyond the turn-around time estimated for that and one other Barber Dime. I also do not have expectations for ever getting a crossover situation to UPGRADE from NGC. Recently, since I have done much more with crack-outs, I should state I get more "at grade" or one slot lower on the return. Of course my quality-selecting in the first place might be less perfect than your experiences so it makes sense. Of course if I would get out to shows more, I might see better coins too. Who knows.

    • T




    Oh boy... downgrade... just came through. Murphy's law plays in my favor though... I was hoping for an XF45 at some point and now I have one. Just wasn't expecting it would come from my NGC AU50. LOL.

    • Tim

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2021 4:58AM

    I have been imaging 1893-O mintmark placements today. I have 6 '93-O specimens... I have discovered, during this process, I have the tough O over O in my Wayte Raymond Barber Quarter collection book!

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2021 5:22AM

    Some different 1893-O quarter mintmark placements all graded by our hosts (except the last O/O entry which is in an album)...

    Centered O

    Slight Right O

    Far Right O High

    Far Right O Mid

    Far Right O Low - Illusion the size of this O is slightly bigger... but look at QUARTER DOLLAR and compare distances from denticles

    O / O Mintmark (to see relative placement)

    • T

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bump:

    How many of Tim's posts can be found here?

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭

    Tim-
    Sorry I cannot help on your 1909-O Barber Quarter. I have owned five over the years but not yours. A very nice 09-O though.

    Craig


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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a recent raw pickup- on it's way to the grading room. Maybe I'll see it back by the 4th of July?


    I'm hoping for an AU 53.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffMTampa said:
    Here's a recent raw pickup- on it's way to the grading room. Maybe I'll see it back by the 4th of July?


    I'm hoping for an AU 53.

    I like your images Jeff and the color. Neck hit unfortunate.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 9, 2021 6:26AM

    Bumping the thread. 1896-O Barber quarter. PC-graded VF30. Was NGC VF35.

    • T

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffMTampa said:
    I find it more difficult to grade Barber Dimes than Halves or Quarters. Does anyone have good information on the pickup points?

    I have not had good success either Jeff.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @sedulous said:
    Bumping the thread. 1896-O Barber quarter. PC-graded VF30. Was NGC VF35.

    • T

    That Quarter looks like a textbook VF 35 to me. Great photo by the way.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffMTampa Jeff, CAC gave that '96-O a green sticker for it being VF30 by PCGS.

    Here is a '96-P Philadelphia cousin in PC40 that has not yet been sent to CAC...

    • Tim

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the '96 in a XF 40 holder, but not the '96 O in a VF 30 holder. CAC should have given it a GOLD sticker.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has to be 2 grade bumps.

    @JeffMTampa said:
    I agree with the '96 in a XF 40 holder, but not the '96 O in a VF 30 holder. CAC should have given it a GOLD sticker.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Has to be 2 grade bumps.

    @JeffMTampa said:
    I agree with the '96 in a XF 40 holder, but not the '96 O in a VF 30 holder. CAC should have given it a GOLD sticker.

    That I didn't know.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's been a while. Hope all is well out there.
    PCGS AU-58


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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2021 4:37AM

    I am clearly needing to do something with this coin as it bothers me:


    I value your opinions:
    (1) Try for a CAC Gold sticker... this is certainly at least an XF40 to PCGS, right? well they graded it VF30.
    (2) Reconsideration service... purchased raw in 2015, this coin was sent in for grading in May 2017 so it has that era's holder.
    (3) Crack-out candidate... I was told before PCGS would not own-up to stating they made that big of a mistake therefore this option overrides any Reconsideration.

    Although this coin has a small high cheek bone scrape, it is one of the nicest Barber Quarters I have ever seen or handled for the common date '14-P.

    Thoughts? Thanks. - Tim

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tim, I don't think the 14 is worth the investment.

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    No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Worth $15 and some postage if you get the Gold CAC. It should be gold if it gets a sticker. Good luck.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2021 2:30PM

    1914-P in PC30. Here are more recent improved pictures.

    Here is the thing guys: I want this coin to be the representation for my XF set slot. I got a raw deal on the grade.

    What I am thinking is to first try for gold CAC sticker. Then maybe Reconsideration if I get gold sticker. I believe I am two bumps below what it should be. I have never seen a BQ as pleasant as this '14-P (to me). Thanks Darrell, Jim, and everyone for your comments.

    • Tim

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tim, I'd consign it as is to your best friend and wait for a nicer one!

    PCGS XF-40...


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    jedmjedm Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a nice looking coin Tim, but I like Lenny's advice thh.... here's one that I have - I think it's got a bit more luster maybe?

    This one is only a 35....

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Received another newp today filling an empty slot in my XF Registry Set. This one has ample rim toning it seems. 1895-P BQ PC45:


    • Tim

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's move the thread a little. I like the color on this '99 dime. PC58.


    • T

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PC 58 CAC. Thanks for the pix, Vern!


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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @paesan said:
    PC 58 CAC. Thanks for the pix, Vern!


    Nice pics Vern! Great coin quality Lenny.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another recently CAC'd PC-58...


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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 15, 2021 12:13PM

    I paid too much for this one but I was beat out by someone flipping it from a GFRC purchase. Happy to have it though. P40 Man I wish I could take great photo's like you guys!

    Sorry, double post but she's purty!

    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm working late tonight so a double feature...PC 58 CAC...(Didn't think it would.)


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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's the 1st new + I made for my new quarter set.

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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 16, 2021 12:55PM

    Just about done with this AG/G dime book that I found with 26 dimes in the trash! Can you believe it was thrown away!
    Someone else's joy that I just have to finish. Look at the tone of that 1901. Down to just needing an example of 1895-o and 96-o. Can't decide if I want a details 95-o to just have in the book to go with the rest or go for a premium example. Liz Coggan has a nice VG10cac I am thinking about.

    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fastfreddie said:
    Just about done with this AG/G dime book that I found with 26 dimes in the trash! Can you believe it was thrown away!
    Someone else's joy that I just have to finish. Look at the tone of that 1901. Down to just needing an example of 1895-o and 96-o. Can't decide if I want a details 95-o to just have in the book to go with the rest or go for a premium example. Liz Coggan has a nice VG10cac I am thinking about.

    Have you checked for varieties? Like the Reverse of that '01-O and whether it has an O over Horizontal O?

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Guess I'll post another +I made since some of youse guys don't seem to make it to the other threads!

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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 16, 2021 1:55PM

    @sedulous said:

    Have you checked for varieties? Like the Reverse of that '01-O and whether it has an O over Horizontal O?

    I have not. Truth be told I know little about Barber dimes or quarters for that matter. I just checked the 01-o and it does not appear to be that variety...thank you!

    Freddie

    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Guess I'll post another +I made since some of youse guys don't seem to make it to the other threads!

    I saw it over there but did not have anything to add since I'm learning.

    Nice coin. What's the pop for the plus grade?

    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    4 58's and 1 58+.

    @fastfreddie said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Guess I'll post another +I made since some of youse guys don't seem to make it to the other threads!

    I saw it over there but did not have anything to add since I'm learning.

    Nice coin. What's the pop for the plus grade?

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 16, 2021 9:31PM

    @amwldcoin Great Idea! To everyone: show us your Barbers with + grades!

    PCGS XF45+...

    PCGS XF45+...

    • T

    ps... here is one I feel that should be submitted for a plus grade and I may just do that... guess the grade?

    • T (2)

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    RedglobeRedglobe Posts: 606 ✭✭✭

    45 on the '98-S....tough date

    Rob
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Redglobe said:
    45 on the '98-S....tough date

    @Redglobe Good guess but I don't think they liked the wear on the Reverse shield area and called it an XF40 at PCGS. It definitely looks like it belongs in XF45.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, If you want to get a + on that 98-S you will have to get it in a 45 holder 1st. 45 is the lowest grade PCGS will give a + to.

    @sedulous said:

    @Redglobe said:
    45 on the '98-S....tough date

    @Redglobe Good guess but I don't think they liked the wear on the Reverse shield area and called it an XF40 at PCGS. It definitely looks like it belongs in XF45.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Well, If you want to get a + on that 98-S you will have to get it in a 45 holder 1st. 45 is the lowest grade PCGS will give a + to.

    @sedulous said:

    @Redglobe said:
    45 on the '98-S....tough date

    @Redglobe Good guess but I don't think they liked the wear on the Reverse shield area and called it an XF40 at PCGS. It definitely looks like it belongs in XF45.

    Yep, That was understood. 45, then CAC to further encourage a plus grade, then back for a +. 3-steps.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2021 5:27AM

    Here are photos of all my "+" graded Barbers:

    (none)

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffMTampa said:
    Here are photos of all my "+" graded Barbers:

    (none)

    ditto

    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a 1901-O Barber Quarter PC20 that is being replaced with XF specimen(s). Slightly older style Gen 4.4 (2005-2011) holder.



    Just took this fresher picture this morning.

    • Tim

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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    seduloussedulous Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In addition to that 1900-S in PC45+, I also have this PC45 (no +).


    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

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