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<< <i>In your assessment of the typical PM forum poster in another thread, you included us as mostly gun toting, old Christian, Republican, white men.
You forgot to include service to our country.
Few here talk about the sacrifices that they have made for our nation. I know of at least one war hero that rarely if ever talks of his service on this forum. Another former member lost a leg in defending America, an often thankless task that requires individuals to step up and do the right thing, even if it costs them their lives.
I imagine that a veteran or two of World War Two posts on this forum, though they are now elderly as former Republican president George HW Bush now is.
Some have served in Korea, or in the case of Senator John McCain, in Viet Nam, where he was a prisoner of war in the wretched and euphemistically named Hanoi Hilton.
Heroes such as Pat Tillman gave his life in the Afghan War, not because he was fleeing an $8 an hour restaurant job, but because he felt that it was a mans job to defend his country after the 911 attacks. It was worth giving up an NFL contract and a multi million dollar contract to serve and defend. His brother proudly served with him.
Soldiers from this forum have marched bravely into Iraq, not once, but twice, and hell, maybe a third time. These are not wannabe adults that sleep on their parents sofa until they are 30, but real men and a few women that take up arms and do the right thing not because if helps fund their wishy washy retirement account, but to make sure that others can enjoy the rights and freedoms that have been promised by our forefathers. >>
Thank you for saying what a lot of people don't even think about saying.
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<< <i>Senator McCain is a forum member? >>
Not to my knowledge. I wrote this a little too fast, throwing things a bit out of context.
I will let it stand though, unedited.
<< <i>Here's what I haven't forgotten. Have you? >>
I would encourage you to take an economics class before you graduate. Or just read some of the threads on this forum concerning inflation. Or move to Seattle..I hear they gonna start people off in the workplace at $15 per hour. Probably gonna be thousands of job openings.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
I'm all for breathing some life back into this forum and have tried and failed on most attempts, but at least I try to stick to how it relates to what this Forum was intended for. When I get trolled making those attempts, I give back what I get...but as of late, I don't even do that because I look at my sig. line and say to myself "it's a public on-line forum, amd I really to believe people would really talk this way to one another in person?"
The reason this place has fallen off in relateable topics is because 95% of people who post in this Forum have an agenda they feel they need to promote. That's a big turn off, and the decline in precious metal topic driven posts' is proof of that.
<< <i>Nothing in anything I've read in this thread pertains to precious metals, which is supposed to be the sole topic discussed here although we have creative ways to somehow make what is wanting to be discussed by an OP (aka, their agenda)...but this one has nothing either by the Op or the response of person he called out in the title. >>
This thread has everything to do with precious metals, it is the epitome of a generation or 2 of thought, and a picture of a foundation of irrational thought, entitlement & zero financial principles being taught and propagated to the youth of America ...
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<< <i>Nothing in anything I've read in this thread pertains to precious metals, which is supposed to be the sole topic discussed here although we have creative ways to somehow make what is wanting to be discussed by an OP (aka, their agenda)...but this one has nothing either by the Op or the response of person he called out in the title. >>
This thread has everything to do with precious metals, it is the epitome of a generation or 2 of thought, and a picture of a foundation of irrational thought, entitlement & zero financial principles being taught and propagated to the youth of America ... >>
Ding ding ding we have a winner!!!!!
You nailed it Rawteam
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<< <i>Here's what I haven't forgotten. Have you? >>
I would encourage you to take an economics class before you graduate. Or just read some of the threads on this forum concerning inflation. Or move to Seattle..I hear they gonna start people off in the workplace at $15 per hour. Probably gonna be thousands of job openings.
I pay about $4 for a Starbucks in Phoenix, in Seattle I bet its 50% on top of that.
Honestly, I dont do Starbucks, I asked a guy at work. My Walmart Stanley thermos works fine.
<< <i>Here's what I haven't forgotten. Have you? >>
This is fantastic. So why don't you tell us all about the people that aspire to get a minimum wage job? Have you ever held a minimum wage job, and if you have, how old were you at the time and how long did you stay employed there? Seriously, help me out why you think raising the minimum wage will help out our economy.
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<< <i>The false/exaggerated patriotism displayed in these threads is so annoying..."I serve my country"..."Look at what these brave people do for you, kid...show some support!" >>
I do not expect you to have an appreciation of anything that was done on behalf of the citizens of the United States. You put together a template of traits that you believe that most forum members are part of and/or adhere to. Let me add a few more.
1. Most of the posters here raised and supported their families without begging their neighbors to carry that burden on their behalf.
2. Though many are indeed gun owners, virtually all do so responsibly and safely, not in a manner that the inner city thugs do.
3. I would think that most take the obligation of voting seriously and vote for men and women that best support the Constitution of the United States, regardless of the candidates race or gender. Not the candidate that promises a bunch of giveaways to freeloaders. >>
Wait...You're saying I shouldn't vote for those that promise the most free stuff? I guess I've been doing it wrong...
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Now this is a nice bar of Silver!
Agree, that is a VERY nice bar of silver. In fact, it's so so very nice, that the silver in it will never be used for any of the multitude of OTHER things silver is useful for.
Like almost all "collector" silver, it will be locked in that form in perpetuity, essentially NOT AVAILABLE to industry, which is ironic, because INDUSTRY is exactly what it was originally made to serve.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>Like almost all "collector" silver, it will be locked in that form in perpetuity, essentially NOT AVAILABLE to industry, which is ironic, because INDUSTRY is exactly what it was originally made to serve. >>
If the price of silver gets high enough, this and many other "collectibles" will become candidates for other uses.
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<< <i>There's something more to this thread than I'm aware of...what did I miss that has caused such deeply rooted feelings by some, like rt1 saying I'm dead wrong? >>
He says that to you all the time
<< <i>In your assessment of the typical PM forum poster in another thread, you included us as mostly gun toting, old Christian, Republican, white men.
You forgot to include service to our country.
Few here talk about the sacrifices that they have made for our nation. I know of at least one war hero that rarely if ever talks of his service on this forum. Another former member lost a leg in defending America, an often thankless task that requires individuals to step up and do the right thing, even if it costs them their lives.
I imagine that a veteran or two of World War Two posts on this forum, though they are now elderly as former Republican president George HW Bush now is.
Some have served in Korea, or in the case of Senator John McCain, in Viet Nam, where he was a prisoner of war in the wretched and euphemistically named Hanoi Hilton.
Heroes such as Pat Tillman gave his life in the Afghan War, not because he was fleeing an $8 an hour restaurant job, but because he felt that it was a mans job to defend his country after the 911 attacks. It was worth giving up an NFL contract and a multi million dollar contract to serve and defend. His brother proudly served with him.
Soldiers from this forum have marched bravely into Iraq, not once, but twice, and hell, maybe a third time. These are not wannabe adults that sleep on their parents sofa until they are 30, but real men and a few women that take up arms and do the right thing not because if helps fund their wishy washy retirement account, but to make sure that others can enjoy the rights and freedoms that have been promised by our forefathers. >>
Pat Tillman was a great guy. He was an atheist who "died for his country"...an atheist in a foxhole
As I said in the memorial day thread-when people sign up for the military, they are knowingly putting themselves in harm's way. So many people on this forum drool over veterans. Enough. You can grovel at their feet and continue to thank them...I don't feel the same way. "These guys serve their country...they are heroes"...blah blah blah cut the chauvinism. You are a sycophant to the military. I am 23, not 30-so thanks. "Freedoms promised by our forefathers..." alright hero, go to Afghanistan right now...
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Sure his voice and others who feel that way surely have the right to think and say what was stated at 3:02 and 3:06 PM CT today in this thread.
Now ask me if I care about the content of what was said. Oh to be young again and think what they say can make a bit of difference.
Talk to me in another 23 years when you've had more of a chance to see what really makes the world go round, not how or what you think it does. And you may not believe this, but I say that respectfully having once seen the world thru the set of eyes you are now. One thing I am certain of coinroll, time and events experienced will change you.
This is the result of a total lack of learning European & American History, which I suspect isn't high on crh's "to do" list. Never mind that the Founding Fathers had classical educations that would put most post-graduate programs to shame now. Never mind that history evolves and that judging our past by today's standards is a spurious and misleading endeavor at best.
His attitude towards the military and military service shows zero understanding or empathy for any of the guys who either volunteered or those who were drafted. Zero understanding of the personal sacrifice, for whatever reasons that they served. Zero empathy.
crh isn't the typical Vietnam-era idealistic counterculture American college student. His attitudes don't really reflect immaturity as much as ideology. He's got basic problems with anyone who believes in our American Heritage. Which is really too bad, because the Constitution is the embodiment of centuries of evolutionary and revolutionary thought. The execution of it has never been perfect, but the conceptualization of it's ideals are *still* light-years beyond any other philosophy that's ever been tried. And hopefully, it will continue to survive.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>FWIW, I'm a veteran and I agree with two-time medal of honor winner Marine General Smedley Butler - I was nothing but a thug for corporate America. I personally do not believe our freedom is what is currently being defended by our brave, yet misinformed soldiers in arms. >>
These days, yes
<< <i>Morons like cruz who hijack the constitution. ?.....care to provide an example? >>
Absolutely. When Ted Cruz was debating Dianne Feinstein from California on her proposed assault weapon ban, he talked about how the constitution gives people the right to bear arms. The constitution says you are allowed to own a gun-it doesn't say you are allowed to own an assault rifle. Obviously if you are an adult and you have a clean background, you can own a gun. Nowhere does the constitution say that civilians are allowed to own a weapon that was designed for military use. So Ted Cruz tried to make it seem as if the constitution says essentially anybody can own an assault rifle-as opposed to just "you are allowed to own a gun"-and leave it at that.
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<< <i>Morons like cruz who hijack the constitution. ?.....care to provide an example? >>
Absolutely. When Ted Cruz was debating Dianne Feinstein from California on her proposed assault weapon ban, he talked about how the constitution gives people the right to bear arms. The constitution says you are allowed to own a gun-it doesn't say you are allowed to own an assault rifle. Obviously if you are an adult and you have a clean background, you can own a gun. Nowhere does the constitution say that civilians are allowed to own a weapon that was designed for military use. So Ted Cruz tried to make it seem as if the constitution says essentially anybody can own an assault rifle-as opposed to just "you are allowed to own a gun"-and leave it at that. >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Morons like cruz who hijack the constitution. ?.....care to provide an example? >>
Absolutely. When Ted Cruz was debating Dianne Feinstein from California on her proposed assault weapon ban, he talked about how the constitution gives people the right to bear arms. The constitution says you are allowed to own a gun-it doesn't say you are allowed to own an assault rifle. Obviously if you are an adult and you have a clean background, you can own a gun. Nowhere does the constitution say that civilians are allowed to own a weapon that was designed for military use. So Ted Cruz tried to make it seem as if the constitution says essentially anybody can own an assault rifle-as opposed to just "you are allowed to own a gun"-and leave it at that. >>
this is moronic at best...
She always misrepresents the definition of an assault rifle in order to keep feeding ALL of the irrational and emotional arguments against ALL gun ownership. Demigogs always do that.
I knew it would happen.
He does seem to have forgotten there was a thing called the draft. Those people didn't necessarily "volunteer" as he thinks everyone who joins the Military does, although I'd bet most who did get drafted would have gone voluntarily anyway.
I'm leaving this thread alone, it hits a little too close to home for me and I don't want to say something that would cause me to get banned. I can only hope coinroll will come around to see how the Military and ex-Military deserve every bit of respect I can muster.
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If you really believe this, and think there's one stitch of difference in who you are complaining about and championing under guise of hypocrisy, all the while preaching tolerance via conformity mediocrity in a 1 sided direction, then you need to look in the mirror until you recognize the problem. >>
Read this again, 15 times. Then read it another 15.
Then read this other piece of advice you were given but ignored:
<< <i>Problem solving shouldn't be an emotional based solution. >>
People telling you to zip it are frustrated with your lack of argumentative comprehension based on your ideological beliefs vs wisdom and life experiences. You don't ask old guys with experience and wisdom about things they know something about outside of academia and then badger the answers you receive. Think about what people are telling you, pay attention and learn.
Don't ever stop learning and paying attention, enjoy your passions, but discrediting others opinions and beliefs closes your ability to be wise and
learn from history and experience. Talking down to folks who are making the money you are asking about is a sure fire way to not join the club....but that's first grade stuff for you right, you seem to know everything already that I can tell.
There is always somebody smarter and dumber than you, trying to tell you what to do for the wrong or right reasons. Recognize those that want you to make smart decisions for yourself based on logic, science, math, history, facts, and not views of emotion.
The Constitution was written to protect us from the exact type of President we now have. That's why there is a separation of powers, the three branches although they seem to be failing miserably now.
Of course, we run the danger that coinrollhunter enjoys online anonymous provocation for its own adrenaline, but I'm going to assume for the moment that this is a young man who shares with many of us our youthful discovery that human nature is flawed, and that many such humans aspire to and achieve power that they then abuse.
Successful civilizations I think have often and fruitfully relied on the expectation of youth that justice be served in order to refocus those more jaded by experience and age on what could be different and possible. Such tension has been creative as often as destructive. It certainly was instrumental in our own revolution and the Declaration and Constitution that resulted.
I hope you're passionate and not simply oppositional, coinrollhunter, and that you keep your passion as you become wise.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
<< <i>My bet is that crh hasn't ever studied the Constitution or bothered to even read it. In his view, it was written by a bunch of old white slaveowners, homophobes, sexists, gun-owning, land-grabbing, genocidal, Bible totin' superstitious & religious zealots.
....Which is really too bad, because the Constitution is the embodiment of centuries of evolutionary and revolutionary thought. The execution of it has never been perfect, but the conceptualization of it's ideals are *still* light-years beyond any other philosophy that's ever been tried. And hopefully, it will continue to survive. >>
These two statements are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they're both substantially steeped in truth. One of the difficulties of using any very old document as guidance for contemporary living (be it a constitution or religious text) is that any details about how to live written therein often become quite dated, leaving those who seek guidance today to try to shoehorn regressive philosophies into their daily lives that might have been considered highly progressive 300 (or 3000) years ago. That's why these documents tend to hold up better with principles (life liberty pursuit of happiness, do unto others..) than societal details that were written for a particular period (right to bear arms, being left handed). Unfortunately, for most politicians it's easy to promise the principles, but just give the details since they're more concrete. Hard to win re-election on the 'I brought you liberty!' platform.
That said, I'm about 90% sure CRH is just trolling, given the things he's saying now. His stuff reads like what someone who listens to a lot of AM talk radio thinks a lib would say.
I knew it would happen.
Hello caller, you're on the air, go ahead with your thoughts while you hide behind anonymity and the false act of engaging in a real, genuine conversation
Coinrollhunter, God gave you 2 ears and 1 mouth preferably to listen twice as much as you talk, and only talk WHEN you actually know what you're talking about. Some of your statements are juvenile and as such are proving your ignorance in some things. I didn't say you were ignorant, just have some ignorance on facts.
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
<< <i>Ahhh, the ignorance of youth....
Coinrollhunter, God gave you 2 ears and 1 mouth preferably to listen twice as much as you talk, and only talk WHEN you actually know what you're talking about. Some of your statements are juvenile and as such are proving your ignorance in some things. I didn't say you were ignorant, just have some ignorance on facts. >>
Cut the god crap.
<< <i>CRH you said nobody offered you advice. I did here:
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If you really believe this, and think there's one stitch of difference in who you are complaining about and championing under guise of hypocrisy, all the while preaching tolerance via conformity mediocrity in a 1 sided direction, then you need to look in the mirror until you recognize the problem. >>
Read this again, 15 times. Then read it another 15.
Then read this other piece of advice you were given but ignored:
<< <i>Problem solving shouldn't be an emotional based solution. >>
People telling you to zip it are frustrated with your lack of argumentative comprehension based on your ideological beliefs vs wisdom and life experiences. You don't ask old guys with experience and wisdom about things they know something about outside of academia and then badger the answers you receive. Think about what people are telling you, pay attention and learn.
Don't ever stop learning and paying attention, enjoy your passions, but discrediting others opinions and beliefs closes your ability to be wise and
learn from history and experience. Talking down to folks who are making the money you are asking about is a sure fire way to not join the club....but that's first grade stuff for you right, you seem to know everything already that I can tell.
There is always somebody smarter and dumber than you, trying to tell you what to do for the wrong or right reasons. Recognize those that want you to make smart decisions for yourself based on logic, science, math, history, facts, and not views of emotion. >>
I am making decisions based on logic and science. That is specifically why I asked a poster in a different thread how old he thinks the earth is. This poster has claimed that evolution is a "religion" and when I ask a straightforward question-"how old is the earth?"-I don't get a straight numerical answer. Instead, the poster rambles on about earthquakes. (You talked about science and logic-so keep in mind this person is a creationist who probably believes the bible is literally true and refers to evolution as a "religion.") I get ganged up on and criticized when I attempt again to get a straight answer about the age of the earth. I am making my decisions off of science and logic, and that is why I have the views I do.
So, how old is gold?
As for CRH. I do not agree with everything he post but some things I can understand his point but still might not agree / agree with him BUT it is his right. You know the rights you signed up to protect if you joined the military! If you love your country and love the rights afforded to you in the constitution and such you would NOT be bashing him for his right to FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION / either good or bad. If he causes you no physical why are you all trying to silence his RIGHTS. The same rights you and I have. We all may not get along but we all have rights. Good or bad we need to protect these rights before we have none left. Rant over......