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  • << <i>Bunt - I like your insight. 1985fan is a piece of work. I won't be back here unless someone spews something really stupid.
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    That happens every time you touch your keyboard and press "Reply to Thread".
  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Please.......go on loving those stats that don't mean squat. Just keep watching him.....he chokes quite often! >>



    You've given us exactly one example of his choking, and every QB has a bad day. But then, when you are fully vested in rooting AGAINST your own team's QB, you will look for every opportunity to run him into the ground. You really are something, you know that? I have never in my life seen anyone take such glee in his own team's players failures! But you get off on it! I have never seen someone look for weaknesses and flaws in their own team's players, let alone a pro bowl QB, but you really don't have a lick of sense in you.



    << <i>And please don't put Romo up there with Aikman. Aikman could think at the line and did not have a history of blowing games like Romo. He instead took the Cowboys deep in the playoff and won 3 SB's. >>



    With an all time great RB, WR, and one of the best defenses in history. Before that? Aikman's record was GARBAGE.



    << <i>Romo should look good this weekend against the hapless Vikings......maybe he will get some of those big stats you love soooo much! >>



    Instead of looking and hoping for failure, you should root for the guy. Good lord man...I just don't know what else there is to say. Continuing to actively root against your own QB? How in the world can you possibly call yourself a fan? >>



    I have to agree, Romo has never had a back like Smith, a consistent OL, or defense that could win games by themselves.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What can I say Romo being Romo YET again!!

    I JUST WISH HE WOULD GO AWAY........PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!image
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What can I say Romo being Romo YET again!!

    I JUST WISH HE WOULD GO AWAY........PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!image >>



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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What can I say Romo being Romo YET again!!

    I JUST WISH HE WOULD GO AWAY........PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!image >>



    Go away? He just threw a game-winning come-from-behind TD in the last minute of play???? Good lord, do you not understand anything about the game of football? Jeez!


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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He can thank the defense for a second chance after his patent INT, which should have sealed it for the Vikings.

    His lack of offense was also aided by the TD scored by the defense!

    We lucked out and beat a 1 and 7 team! BIG DEAL!!

    I'll just be glad when he is gone!
  • Skin2Skin2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭


    << <i>He can thank the defense for a second chance after his patent INT, which should have sealed it for the Vikings.

    His lack of offense was also aided by the TD scored by the defense!

    We lucked out and beat a 1 and 7 team! BIG DEAL!!

    I'll just be glad when he is gone! >>




    So when he wins, you qualify it by citing the defense...but when he loses, you ignore any other aspect that caused the loss and you put all the blame on Romo. That is a very poor method you have at evaluating.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>He can thank the defense for a second chance after his patent INT, which should have sealed it for the Vikings.

    His lack of offense was also aided by the TD scored by the defense!

    We lucked out and beat a 1 and 7 team! BIG DEAL!!

    I'll just be glad when he is gone! >>



    LOL, with fans like you, the Cowboys don't need enemies.


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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>He can thank the defense for a second chance after his patent INT, which should have sealed it for the Vikings.

    His lack of offense was also aided by the TD scored by the defense!

    We lucked out and beat a 1 and 7 team! BIG DEAL!!

    I'll just be glad when he is gone! >>




    So when he wins, you qualify it by citing the defense...but when he loses, you ignore any other aspect that caused the loss and you put all the blame on Romo. That is a very poor method you have at evaluating. >>



    The sport of football may be a bit beyond Dimeman's ability to properly evaluate performance of his team, and certainly his QB.

    330 yards, 2 TDs, including one with less than a minute to play to pull out the win? Even the most uninformed football fan would call that a pretty good day. Of course, he may be happiest when his team loses just so he can rail against Romo as evidenced by his premature post above.


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  • lightningboylightningboy Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭
    While you're at it DIMEMAN, thank the defense for letting Peterson have a huge game even though they knew he was the only s player they had to watch today. Yeah, that's a great D. Romo pulled it out just like Manning did against Dallas. He got a chance after he threw a pick and like one of the greats, he made the Vikings pay.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>What can I say Romo being Romo YET again!!

    I JUST WISH HE WOULD GO AWAY........PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!image >>



    You know, I think the Cowboys and their fellow, REAL fans feel EXACTLY the same way about you. The guy delivers what you've been clamoring for all the time - a clutch, late game TD to give the team the lead with less than a minute to go and seal the win. Yet all you can do is give credit to the defense (which let Peterson run roughshod over them all day and let one of the worst QBs in the league complete 68% of his passes and a 82 QB rating)? You, sir, are the one who needs to go away - go away from your keyboard and come back when you have a clue as to what it means to be a fan.

    If you continue to employ this 'choker' belief that you obviously have in regards to Romo, you could have used today as a way to say 'wow, he came through when it counted most to me, maybe he's turning the corner!' Instead, you take the dimeman patented approach and give credit to everyone else BUT Romo.

    You, sir, are a disgrace to fans everywhere.


  • << <i>

    << <i>What can I say Romo being Romo YET again!!

    I JUST WISH HE WOULD GO AWAY........PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!image >>



    You know, I think the Cowboys and their fellow, REAL fans feel EXACTLY the same way about you. The guy delivers what you've been clamoring for all the time - a clutch, late game TD to give the team the lead with less than a minute to go and seal the win. Yet all you can do is give credit to the defense (which let Peterson run roughshod over them all day and let one of the worst QBs in the league complete 68% of his passes and a 82 QB rating)? You, sir, are the one who needs to go away - go away from your keyboard and come back when you have a clue as to what it means to be a fan.

    If you continue to employ this 'choker' belief that you obviously have in regards to Romo, you could have used today as a way to say 'wow, he came through when it counted most to me, maybe he's turning the corner!' Instead, you take the dimeman patented approach and give credit to everyone else BUT Romo.

    You, sir, are a disgrace to fans everywhere. >>



    Twice in 3 days that I agree with axtel
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grote15 you and 1985fan think Romo is great......sorry I don't!

    His past speaks for itself. He will probably never win another playoff game much less a SB.

    If he would turn it around and start playing like an elite QB and NOT throw INT's at crucial times....I will be the first one to jump on his bandwagon.

    But admit it...he lucked out today and got a second chance. And he did good in the second chance. But you know as well as I do...you don't always get a second chance.
  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Grote15 you and 1985fan think Romo is great......sorry I don't!

    His past speaks for itself. He will probably never win another playoff game much less a SB.

    If he would turn it around and start playing like an elite QB and NOT throw INT's at crucial times....I will be the first one to jump on his bandwagon.

    But admit it...he lucked out today and got a second chance. And he did good in the second chance. But you know as well as I do...you don't always get a second chance. >>



    Brady needed a second chance to beat the Saints a few weeks ago. A win is a win.
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    Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
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    defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
    title.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>Grote15 you and 1985fan think Romo is great......sorry I don't! >>



    That has absolutely NOTHING to do with your post. You can't even take any solace in a win. Are you sure you're not WTCG?



    << <i>His past speaks for itself. He will probably never win another playoff game much less a SB. >>



    His past? You don't want to hear about his past. You don't want to hear how many fourth quarter comeback wins he has. You continue to disregard the past and push on with your willful ignorance that he's an abysmal quarterback, and ignore the facts about his lack of talent around him.



    << <i>If he would turn it around and start playing like an elite QB and NOT throw INT's at crucial times....I will be the first one to jump on his bandwagon. >>



    But you weren't! He threw a game-sealing touchdown with less than a minute to go, and all you can do is relish the day that he's gone! How can you possible suggest you'll be the first one on his bandwagon when you have the perfect opportunity to do it today?



    << <i>But admit it...he lucked out today and got a second chance. And he did good in the second chance. But you know as well as I do...you don't always get a second chance. >>



    So when Denver won it was because Manning 'lucked out' and got a second chance?
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Manning's luck was that the opposing QB was Romo who threw his patent clutch hands around the throat INT.

    It will take more than his second chance (after HIS INT) win today to get me on his bandwagon.

    Let's see how Romo and the Boy's do next week against the Saints. Maybe he won't miss so many passes to Dez in that game!

    And maybe Dez will keep his helmet on!image
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    Dime man why don't you do what you want Romo to do and just go away? You obviously have a chip on your shoulder about Romo for whatever reason but it's obvious you don't know the first thing about football. Period.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1985fan - you are a joke. You think you know everything about everything, but don't know squat about anything. There is even a thread on that!image

    I'll go away until next week. Not because you want me to, but because I'm tired of arguing with an IDIOT!!!

    So spread your spew on some other thread...if you can find anyone to listen to your worthless banter!image
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    I love it, I'm not the only one here defending Romo, yet I'm the only one you want to call out? Coward! What's the matter, blowhard? You can't understand things like 'facts' and 'stats'?

    Meanwhile, in reality, Romo continues his pro-bowl pace and his team's defense is dead last in total defense, has allowed the most passing yards, and rank in the bottom half in points per game allowed. But the Cowboys' struggles must definitely be Romo's fault.

    /eyeroll

    Get lost, dimeman.
  • 1985fan, indeed you aren't the only one here defending Romo. He is a great QB that many teams would love to have, and his past record backs it up. And he has done it without a really great running game or D.

    And as he proved today, he can come through in the clutch. He doens't always choke, like DIMEMAN and others in the anit-Romo crowd would like to think.

    Sure, he hasn't made it to a SB yet. But there are 15 other NFC teams. Your team should make it only once every 16 years on average. Romo is just in his 8th season now. Even Peyton took til his 6th season before winning a playoff game, now he's considered among the greatest ever.

    Romo is a great player having a great year, and the Cowboys could be much, much worse than 5-4 without him. I don't expect the Cowboys to get to the SB this year, but play at the QB position is NOT the problem.



  • << <i>1985fan - you are a joke. You think you know everything about everything, but don't know squat about anything. >>



    Dude!! Have you not realized that everyone here has this opinion of you? Are we all wrong and you are the only one that is right? Your lack of football knowledge and the 2nd best QB in franchise history are laughable.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>> and the 2nd best QB in franchise history are laughable. <<<image

    Sorry, I couldn't let this totally STUPID statement go! It's hard to type from laughing.

    Here is a list of the best QB's in Cowboy history:

    Aikman and Staubach tied for best

    Danny White

    Don Merideth

    Romo (maybe)

    2nd bestimage
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Here is a list of the best QB's in Cowboy history:

    Aikman and Staubach tied for best >>



    Super bowl wins: 3 and 2



    << <i>Danny White >>



    Super bowl wins: 1



    << <i>Don Merideth

    Romo (maybe) >>



    None.

    So basically your list is based on the number of super bowl wins each QB has. Why didn't you say that instead of some preposterous notion that Staubuch or White are better QBs than Romo? Jesus you are a dense one.


    Going into the start of this year, Romo has 93 starts under his belt. Here’s how he compares to other Cowboys quarterbacks through their first 93 starts: Romo 174 TDs, 88 INTs; Roger Staubach 116 TDs, 87 INTs; Danny White 147 TDs, 120 INTs; Troy Aikman 92 TDs, 82 INTs. Hands down the best of that lot. Highest all-time fourth quarter quarterback rating: Romo 101.9, Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers 100.2, former 49ers and Buccaneers quarterback Steve Young 97.9, New England’s Tom Brady 92.4, former Rams, Giants and Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner 91.9.

    So get out of here with your idiotic, non-stop nonsense about Romo not being in your top 2 all time. Seriously, you are so far gone beyond reason I worry about your mental stability.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1985fan you are such an idiot. You are saying Romo is better than Rodgers and the rest on that list.

    You go by stats....I go by the ability to win games. Stats don't win games!

    YOU ARE SUCH A BONE HEAD!!!!!

    We will see how he does against Breese(sp) next week. Not stat wise, but game winning wise. image
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>1985fan you are such an idiot. You are saying Romo is better than Rodgers and the rest on that list. >>



    Did I say he was better? Of course I didn't you insolent fool. I was simple rejecting your idiotic notion that he doesn't play well in the fourth quarter.



    << <i>You go by stats....I go by the ability to win games. Stats don't win games! >>



    No, but neither do individual players. TEAMS win games. Good lord you really are a dense one!
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    Well for the majority of Don's career there was NO Super Bowl. And no disrespect intended to the 'Boys fans here or to Romo but I do find it quite strange that since 1995 (the Cowboy's last Lombardi trophy), "America's Team" has not even been so much as conference runner-up since. Now whether that's truly Romo's fault or not I'll let the rest of you guys work that out.
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    << <i>1985fan - you are a joke. You think you know everything about everything, but don't know squat about anything. There is even a thread on that!image

    I'll go away until next week. Not because you want me to, but because I'm tired of arguing with an IDIOT!!!

    So spread your spew on some other thread...if you can find anyone to listen to your worthless banter!image >>




    Talk about a childish poster. Somebody should drop the ban hammer on you.
  • lightningboylightningboy Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭
    I believe that initially DIMEMAN had a somewhat valid gripe about Romo ---- His tendency to make errors at critical moments. However, his subsequent arguments simply became childlike because he really doesnt know how to critique an individual's performance or because he has a problem with Romo that isn't based on performance.

    Just last night ESPN showed that over the past 2 years, Romo trails only Luck and Wilson in 4th quarter comebacks.

    And if he wants to argue that is QB is only as good as his team's record, look at these numbers in games that really counted:

    Dan Marino 8 - 10 playoff record
    Dan Fouts 3 -4 playoff record

    Mark Rypien 5 - 3 playoff record
    Phil Simms 6 - 4 playoff record

    You are going to be hard pressed to find anyone, including Parcells or Gibbs that would take Simms or Rypien over Marino or Fouts. What Simms and Rypien had were great defenses on their side whereas the Dans needed to score 40 points/game to have a chance to win.

  • According to this idiot who keeps calling everyone else idiots, Trent Dilfer was a better QB than half the HOF QBs currently enshrined and equal to Favre and Manning who are also equivalent to Danny White. Ok, got it.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    Another stat I didn't even notice until it was brought to my attention: in yesterday's game, the Cowboys had 8 handoffs. EIGHT! Which means Romo was responsible for 87% of his team's plays yesterday. And with all those plays, he turned it over only once. Once! Despite the defense knowing the Cowboys were going to throw on essentially each and every play.

    Despite this, he was still able to drive the offense down, 90 yards, in the final two minutes, and win the game. Despite this, dimeman and his ilk STILL want Romo gone. Instead of celebrating, they're hating the fact that the guy they've designed as the fall guy for their team's failures is succeeding. They cannot possibly wrap their minds around the facts that Romo is not the problem in Dallas, as that would involve them admitting they were wrong. So instead they double down on the Romo-is-the-problem rhetoric, and make more, louder, and idiotic claims (Danny White a better QB than Romo? Are you insane?)

    In the end, those with a brain and the ability to use it know that Dallas' problems stem much deeper than QB play. No sustainable, effective running game. An abysmal defense (in which Bob Ryan got ran out of town to New Orleans which now, somehow, has a better defense than Dallas'). An owner who won't get out of the way and let football people make personnel decisions.

    No, it's just easier to 'Blame Romo! He sucks!' than it is to admit your team has a whole mess of problems.


  • << <i>

    In the end, those with a brain and the ability to use it know that Dallas' problems stem much deeper than QB play. No sustainable, effective running game. An abysmal defense (in which Bob Ryan got ran out of town to New Orleans which now, somehow, has a better defense than Dallas'). >>



    Actually that's Rob Ryan but point well taken. Dallas had the worst defense in the NFL the year before adding Ryan. Last year they were a middle of the pack D which was a dramatic improvement. The Saints had the worst D in the HISTORY of the NFL last year. Ryan comes on board and they are now a top 5 defense. Wonder where the problem lie?
  • lightningboylightningboy Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭
    Wonder where the problem lie?

    I know, I know!!!!! Romo can't play shutdown corner worth a lick.image
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't understand, how long has Romo been the 'Boys' main QB? If he's really that terrible and that much of a jinx, why doesn't Jerry "I built this great billion dollar stadium but forgot how to win more silver trophies" Jones just get someone better? Remember we're talking about a guy who ran off not one but TWO legendary coaches who each won two of those shiny silver trophies. Has Jerry lost his nerve or touch or what?
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    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
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  • << <i> Remember we're talking about a guy who ran off not one but TWO legendary coaches who each won two of those shiny silver trophies. >>



    Three coaches. Don't forget Parcells. Wade Phillips and Garrett are/were puppets that he could control but neither of them have the ability to lead a team.

    EDIT: Was referring to the legendary coach status not the trophies. Parcells would have won at least one in Dallas if given more control of personnel.
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    But surely Parcells knew it was no big secret that JR Ewing, sorry Jerry Jones can't resist being the textbook definition of a micromanager right?
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the Cowboys make the playoffs this year, we can watch Dallas and Romo play.

    If Romo plays well and does not commit errors in crunch time (like he has done so at times in the past), then maybe he will soften (just a little bit) the hard hearts of the many Dallas fans that do not support him.

    If he does not play well (particularly if he commits an error that leads directly to a loss [i.e. like throwing the interception in the Denver game that allowed Denver to win the game with a field goal]) then maybe those who are his ardent supporters will reevaluate their opinion of him as a QB who is elite.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>If the Cowboys make the playoffs this year, we can watch Dallas and Romo play.

    If Romo plays well and does not commit errors in crunch time (like he has done so at times in the past), then maybe he will soften (just a little bit) the hard hearts of the many Dallas fans that do not support him.

    If he does not play well (particularly if he commits an error that leads directly to a loss [i.e. like throwing the interception in the Denver game that allowed Denver to win the game with a field goal]) then maybe those who are his ardent supporters will reevaluate their opinion of him as a QB who is elite. >>



    So if his defense allows 51 points in the playoffs, and Romo throws an interception, he will to be to blame? I have no doubt that Romo is an elite level QB. His numbers don't lie, and his 'crunch time' fourth quarter numbers are the highest in the league. I'm sorry it doesn't fit in to the narrative that the talking heads on ESPN and other places have in place to always blame Romo, but it's just not the case. Since it takes more than just a sentence or a single play to illustrate Dallas' multiple short comings (abysmal defense, no running game, etc. etc.) it's easier for these media sources (and it's watchers) to consume 'Romo INT = BAD!!!'

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks SanctionII - It's nice to see yet another person who realizes Romo's past!

    Danny White and Romo - Who has the most playoff wins?image

    And please stop with the 51 points given up by the defense against Denver! They gave up 48 just like Denver's D. Romo gave up the winning 3 points!!!!!

    Sure he kept them in the game......BUT....he blew it in the end!!!!
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>Thanks SanctionII - It's nice to see yet another person who realizes Romo's past! >>



    How dare you? You completely REFUSE to admit his past - his number of 4th quarter come from behind wins and league leading 4th quarter QB rating and yet he's still not good enough for you. No, sir, YOU refuse to admit his past!



    << <i>Danny White and Romo - Who has the most playoff wins? >>



    Trent Dilfer or Dan Fouts Who has more playoff wins? With this idiotic reasoning, Dilfer is obviously the better QB, right?



    << <i>And please stop with the 51 points given up by the defense against Denver! They gave up 48 just like Denver's D. Romo gave up the winning 3 points!!!!!

    Sure he kept them in the game......BUT....he blew it in the end!!!! >>



    I get it now. Finally. It's not that you won't accept Romo was the only reason the Cowboys were in that game and the defense was to blame, it's you are simply UNABLE to grasp the concept. Your brain lacks the functional ability to comprehend this minor point. It all makes sense now. You cannot possibly grasp the concept of a 'team', so it's why you continue to put so much emphasis on playoff wins and losses, why you refuse to admit his defense and lack of running game are to blame - you simply can't understand it!
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1985fan - you can spew all the crap you want and twist everything to suit your stupid thinking....

    BUT ROMO LOST THE DENVER GAME!! He had the game to win or lose .... AND HE FORCED A PASS AND WAS INTERCEPTED...END OF GAME!!!!

    END OF STORY!!image
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    You putting smiley emoticons when talking about a game your TEAM lost speaks volumes about you as a fan. You take joy in a member of your team failing - that's some serious issues you got there, son.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boy you are a BONEHEAD! The smiley face wasn't showing happiness in a Cowboy loss....BUT.... was for my disdain for you as a total IDIOT!

    And if you bring that 4th quarter stat up again ( that means squat ) I think I'll PUKE!!
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭
    Fact: Dallas' defense is allowing nearly 420yards a game, second worst in the league (.1 yards from being the worst).
    Fact: Dallas' rushing offense is averaging just over 75 yards a game, good for 27th in the league.
    Fact: Romo is currently fifth in QB rating.
    Fact: Romo has the best active fourth quarterback rating.


    Now, taking all these things into account, if you're still fixated on Romo being the cause of the Cowboys' failures, then you are beyond hope, and you cannot possibly be reasoned with. It's going to be amazing when the Cowboys go back to the pre-Romo days, when they were AWFUL. I can't wait to hear you whining and crying for the good ole days of Romo!
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I found the site where you picked the stats you wanted. Here is the "WHOLE" story. Which pretty much sums up what I have saying all along.

    Which is Romo has the talent and some stats but can't win games. He is behind all of the true great Cowboy QB's thru first 93 game in everything that counts.

    Go out and read what they say about Danny White....yes he is a better winner than Romo.

    Here:

    When Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo inked his six-year, $108 million contract extension in March, a common reaction was to compare Romo’s salary to some of the top quarterbacks in the league. While Romo is certainly being paid like an elite quarterback, his lack of postseason success and 1-6 record in win-or-go-home games were immediately brought to the surface.

    Following a season where a poorly thrown pass in the final minutes resulted in a Romo interception and a Week 17 loss to the Washington Redskins, eliminating the Cowboys from a postseason berth, pointing out Romo’s shortcomings became far more popular than noting some of the 33-year-old’s impressive career statistics.

    Yes, Romo will not be mentioned among QBs like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger unless he wins a Super Bowl. But that doesn’t mean his accomplishments should go unnoticed.

    The Cowboys released their media game notes for the season opener on Tuesday. And inside were several interesting Romo-related stats. Here are a few.

    – Romo is 4-2 in season openers, completing 131-of-195 passes for 1,949 yards, 14 touchdowns, four interceptions and a 115.1 QB rating.

    – Of Romo’s 177 career touchdown passes, 56 have come in the fourth quarter. Twenty-six have come in the first quarter, 51 in the second, 43 in the third and one in overtime.

    – Highest all-time fourth quarter quarterback rating: Romo 101.9, Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers 100.2, former 49ers and Buccaneers quarterback Steve Young 97.9, New England’s Tom Brady 92.4, former Rams, Giants and Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner 91.9.

    – Most touchdown passes of 50-or-more yards since 2006: Romo 29, Brady 21, Rodgers 20, Eli Manning 20, Drew Brees 17.

    – Romo has 93 starts under his belt. Here’s how he compares to other Cowboys quarterbacks through their first 93 starts: Romo 174 TDs, 88 INTs; Roger Staubach 116 TDs, 87 INTs; Danny White 147 TDs, 120 INTs; Troy Aikman 92 TDs, 82 INTs.

    – Cowboys quarterback win-loss records through their first 93 starts: Staubach 69-24, White 64-29, Aikman 57-36, Romo 55-38.

    – Other notable current NFL quarterback records through their first 93 starts: Brady 69-24, Ben Roethlisberger 65-28, Philip Rivers 61-32, Romo 55-38, Eli Manning 54-39.
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>I found the site where you picked the stats you wanted. Here is the "WHOLE" story. Which pretty much sums up what I have saying all along.

    Which is Romo has the talent and some stats but can't win games. He is behind all of the true great Cowboy QB's thru first 93 game in everything that counts.

    Go out and read what they say about Danny White....yes he is a better winner than Romo.

    Here:

    When Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo inked his six-year, $108 million contract extension in March, a common reaction was to compare Romo’s salary to some of the top quarterbacks in the league. While Romo is certainly being paid like an elite quarterback, his lack of postseason success and 1-6 record in win-or-go-home games were immediately brought to the surface.

    Following a season where a poorly thrown pass in the final minutes resulted in a Romo interception and a Week 17 loss to the Washington Redskins, eliminating the Cowboys from a postseason berth, pointing out Romo’s shortcomings became far more popular than noting some of the 33-year-old’s impressive career statistics.

    Yes, Romo will not be mentioned among QBs like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger unless he wins a Super Bowl. But that doesn’t mean his accomplishments should go unnoticed.

    The Cowboys released their media game notes for the season opener on Tuesday. And inside were several interesting Romo-related stats. Here are a few.

    – Romo is 4-2 in season openers, completing 131-of-195 passes for 1,949 yards, 14 touchdowns, four interceptions and a 115.1 QB rating.

    Of Romo’s 177 career touchdown passes, 56 have come in the fourth quarter. Twenty-six have come in the first quarter, 51 in the second, 43 in the third and one in overtime.

    – Highest all-time fourth quarter quarterback rating: Romo 101.9, Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers 100.2, former 49ers and Buccaneers quarterback Steve Young 97.9, New England’s Tom Brady 92.4, former Rams, Giants and Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner 91.9.

    – Most touchdown passes of 50-or-more yards since 2006: Romo 29, Brady 21, Rodgers 20, Eli Manning 20, Drew Brees 17.

    – Romo has 93 starts under his belt. Here’s how he compares to other Cowboys quarterbacks through their first 93 starts: Romo 174 TDs, 88 INTs; Roger Staubach 116 TDs, 87 INTs; Danny White 147 TDs, 120 INTs; Troy Aikman 92 TDs, 82 INTs.

    – Cowboys quarterback win-loss records through their first 93 starts: Staubach 69-24, White 64-29, Aikman 57-36, Romo 55-38.

    – Other notable current NFL quarterback records through their first 93 starts: Brady 69-24, Ben Roethlisberger 65-28, Philip Rivers 61-32, Romo 55-38, Eli Manning 54-39. >>



    Class dismissed! LOL
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Typical of you to pick the stats in his favor that are meaningless. Look at the total wins and playoff wins - Romo is dead last.

    Romo is NOT the best Cowboy QB.......more like 4th or 5th. Look at how he compares to the elite QB's.

    Class is dismissed alright.....and you are staying after school and sitting in the corner with a dunce hat on!!!!!!
  • lightningboylightningboy Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭
    DIMEMAN, if you could truly be honest with yourself for one minute, consider the following 2 scenarios:


    Cowboys have a 2 point lead with 2 minutes left and the Saints have the ball at their own 20.

    Saints have a 2 point lead with 2 minutes left and the Cowboys have the ball at their own 20.


    Regardless of your lack of faith in Romo. you have to know there is no way the Cowboys are keeping Brees out of field goal range.


    I think the great majority of Cowboys' fans would rather roll the dice with Romo and the ball.
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In the Denver game Romo played fantastic and his stellar performance was the reason why Dallas was in the game (tied 48-48 with less than 3 minutes to go in the game with Dallas having the ball and starting a drive that would have allowed it to win the game with a field goal kicked with a second or two left in the game [to make sure Manning and the Denver offense never got back on the field]).

    After playing so well for the first 57+ minutes of the game, Romo threw a forced pass that was intercepted in Dallas territory. By doing so Romo snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. His interception allowed Denver's offense and Manning back on the field. Denver then milked the clock and kicked the game winning field gaol as time expired to prevent Romo and the Dallas office from getting back on the field.

    The above is what Dimeman is complaining about (and previous similar instances where Romo has made mistakes in crunch time).

    Got to give credit to Romo for some great stats and very good performances in his career, but he still makes Dallas fans cringe when he has the ball in crunch time.
  • lightningboylightningboy Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭
    The above is what Dimeman is complaining about (and previous similar instances where Romo has made mistakes in crunch time).

    Okay I'll put the question to you. Considering that very Denver game, if you were a Cowboys fan, would you have felt more confident with Romo having the ball with 2 minutes and needing to drive into field goal range or would you have felt more confident if Dallas' defense needed to keep Manning out of field goal range to preserve a 2 point win?
  • 1985fan1985fan Posts: 1,952 ✭✭


    << <i>In the Denver game Romo played fantastic and his stellar performance was the reason why Dallas was in the game (tied 48-48 with less than 3 minutes to go in the game with Dallas having the ball and starting a drive that would have allowed it to win the game with a field goal kicked with a second or two left in the game [to make sure Manning and the Denver offense never got back on the field]).

    After playing so well for the first 57+ minutes of the game, Romo threw a forced pass that was intercepted in Dallas territory. By doing so Romo snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. His interception allowed Denver's offense and Manning back on the field. Denver then milked the clock and kicked the game winning field gaol as time expired to prevent Romo and the Dallas office from getting back on the field.

    The above is what Dimeman is complaining about (and previous similar instances where Romo has made mistakes in crunch time).

    Got to give credit to Romo for some great stats and very good performances in his career, but he still makes Dallas fans cringe when he has the ball in crunch time. >>



    I have yet to hear a single Romo detractor blame the Dallas defense for the Denver loss. If the defense had been even mediocre, Dallas is up BIG in that spot and Romo can do a victory formation. Instead, his defense let him down ALL DAY, and he gets stepped on as he releases a pass and it gets picked off.

    It's easy to point to that one play and say 'aha! He choked!' It doesn't take *that* much analyzing to see the defense was totally to blame for the loss.
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