With this year's group, and the dramatic fall off in the position, one has to go RB in the first round, and, more than likely, RB in round 2 as well. QB has never been deeper and anyone reaching for a QB in the first or second rounds is losing a great deal of value.
That being said, every RB outside AP has risks. Foster didn't see a lick of preseason time, has a more than competent backup, and has seen his yards per carry fall off significantly over each of the past three years. Martin runs behind an offensive line that saw big injuries last year which affected his numbers, and has just one year of upper echelon numbers. Rice is going to see a huge number of 8 man fronts as there is no WR in Baltimore considered a threat. The list goes on and on. I wasn't alone in my projections of Spiller having a huge year, based on Jackson's injury history (no matter what some posters tell you, it's Spiller who played 16 games last year, not Jackson), the new offensive system in Buffalo predicated on running the ball, and his sterling 6.0 yards per carry.
However, it's been exactly ONE WEEK. Let's let some more time go by before you guys start running around pointing and screaming like a bunch of children, ok?
There's no evidence of CJ throwing up on the field; however, it may have occurred while he was riding the pine.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
"There's absolutely no reason to be concerned" is exactly the right takeaway from that post. I find it hilarious that people are jumping to conclusions after one game. I find it comical that people are bashing CJ, despite only ONE RB rushed for over 100 yards this week.
Keep it coming, fellas, keep showing how short-sighted you folks really are.
edit: by the way, 22 touches x 16 games = 352 touches. Methinks each and every one of you folks would be stoked to have your RB's get 350+ touches this year. But keep up the ignorance spewing! You two are doing great!
I like how he's now shifting to the 'if he gets over 20 touches' angle. Well yeah, that's one of the many question marks that so-called gurus completely ignored.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i> I like how he's now shifting to the 'if he gets over 20 touches' angle. Well yeah, that's one of the many question marks that so-called gurus completely ignored. >>
Sorry but ill take the advice and feedback fom people who do fantasy football analysis for a living over some random guy on the internet working on a vendetta.
But keep getting worked up over one game...it only makes you look even more foolish.
<< <i>I already know how this ends. You engage me, I make you look completely foolish, and then you play the Tinkerbell card.
No thanks. Go yap elsewhere, boy. >>
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>by the way, 22 touches x 16 games = 352 touches. Methinks each and every one of you folks would be stoked to have your RB's get 350+ touches this year. But keep up the ignorance spewing! You two are doing great! >>
By that logic, Spiller will also have 16 fumbles... ruh-roh!
Better watch out, Foster continuing his downward trend in YPC! Tonight's numbers!
CAR YDS AVG TD LG A. Foster 18 57 3.2 0 9
Yikes!
Tate gained nearly as many yards, on half the carries! Based on this one game's worth of numbers, it's time to overreact, as that's what it seems some people like to do around here.
<< <i>I own Tate in three leagues, and Foster in zero. That's not a fluke. >>
Smart call.
Tate is in a contract year and after touching the ball over 1,100 times in the past three years, Foster's body could be breaking down. As a Texans fan, I don't give a dang who is in the backfield as long as they produce and we win. Foster, Tate, and Wood could (hopefully will) be a dangerous RB committee.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Foster and Spiller both might wind up to be fantasy busts this season, as top 5 first rounders, at least. It's only one week, but teams make changes quick, especially when viable options (F-Jax and Tate) are waiting in the wings.
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<< <i>Foster and Spiller both might wind up to be fantasy busts this season, as top 5 first rounders, at least. It's only one week, but teams make changes quick, especially when viable options (F-Jax and Tate) are waiting in the wings. >>
That's always a possibility but difference being a track record versus speculation.
On the positive side, Foster had three years of top productivity, a solid O-Line, and legit SB aspirations. The question marks were he didn't play any pre-season due to injuries, over 1,100 touches in those three years, and Tate is in a contract year. One could make a well informed decision and aware of potential downside.
As for Spiller, he showed glimpses of breakaway speed, named the starter, and a gaudy YDS/A. Question marks included (but not limited to) history of being nicked up, limited experience as a starter, shaky O-Line, an unproven rookie QB, well established backup RB, etc. One would have to make a bunch of assumptions, hope for best case scenarios, and pray it works out.
If Foster has a terrible year, people that drafted him in the top 5 can't have any regrets. Sure, it would suck and feel like a wasted pick but they made a well reasoned decision. If CJ has a terrible year, people that drafted him in the top 5 will say, "Why in the heck did I listen to that so-called guru?!? He said Spiller was a lock for 2K yards!1!!"
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
I'll be the first to admit I had some some hesitation protecting McCoy. Tested the waters but no offers were to my satisfaction, so I took a calculated risk. So far so good but even if he gets injured, he defintely got me at least one victory (won by 5)
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Oh and Stown- grats on the win! Check this out for an a$$froster.....I lost 145.50 to 146 >>
I hate it when that happens and my condolences for your loss . You end up over analyzing and second guessing your lineup the entire following week.
Good times.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Looks like McCoy is a little worried about having to "do it all" in Philly:
LeSean McCoy said he thinks "[the Eagles] have to do a better job of monitoring the reps" in the backfield.
McCoy saw 32 total touches in Monday night's Week 1 win over the Redskins. "I think we can do a better job rotating because it’s a long season," McCoy said. "I don’t think I need to have the ball 31, 32 times in a game for us to be a successful offense. We have too many different weapons. I think the running backs we have here can definitely play." Bryce Brown saw just nine touches in the opener. It's safe to say McCoy will not be carrying the ball 30-plus times every week. However, he is going to have a monster workload in Chip Kelly's offense.
McCoy is absolutely correct. Due to inevitable long term health issues, a RB should not get 30+ carries (in addition to any catches) every game for an entire season. Just look at Earl Campbell. After numerous surgeries and struggling with constant pain for decades, he can finally go through a day with minimal issues.
I would rather sacrifice a couple points, even on a weekly basis, than see any RB getting that many touches in today's game.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
I've just never seen a player asking for more help... it's usually the other way around, with the player wanting the ball more. I get his point though. That's why I avoided him this season. Those who drafted the likes of McCoy and Vick will reap the benefits in the first few weeks, but it won't last.
<< <i>I've just never seen a player asking for more help... it's usually the other way around, with the player wanting the ball more. I get his point though. That's why I avoided him this season. Those who drafted the likes of McCoy and Vick will reap the benefits in the first few weeks, but it won't last. >>
You're right, it is very unusual to see but even as a 3rd year "owner" of McCoy, I'm happy to see him speak out. In that type of full gas offense, I think he'll have more than enough opportunities to go nuts while still getting a couple series off to recover. Chip will realize these guys have more than a three to four year window, which he's accustom to, and tinker with his game plan to accommodate franchise players for long term use.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
CJ Spiller needs to average 132.6 yards for the next 14 games to reach 2K and has 0 touchdowns.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Something I noticed this morning. On the Bills final play, with the game on the line, Fred Jackson was on the field and Spiller riding the pine. Perhaps he was too busy throwing up?
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Word was he suffered a knee injury...looking like a big-time bust at this point.
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<< <i>Word was he suffered a knee injury...looking like a big-time bust at this point. >>
Injured his knee in the 4th quarter after averaging 0.9 (ZERO-POINT-NINE) yards per carry. Speaking of, he needs to average 142 yards for the next 13 games to reach 2K and has 0 touchdowns.
On the other hand, the consistent RBs that didn't have injury and/or loaded backfield concerns are more than holding their own at this point:
AP has 333 total yards and 4 TDs.
McCoy has 513 total yards and 2 TDs.
Jamaal has 375 total yards and 3 TDs.
Lynch has 256 total yards and 3 TDs.
Forte has 363 total yards and 3 TDs.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Hindsight is always 20/20. AP, Martin and Morris are the only preseason top 10 to currently be top 10 in rushing yards. Theres risk at every pick... Sitting there suggesting you knew it all along is not only disingenuous it's just idiotic.
Don't hate, hit the waiver wire and come back like a champ.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Burleson was driving a 2009 GMC Yukon SUV westbound when he was distracted by pizza falling off his front seat, according to the Michigan State Police. He lost control of the car and struck the center median wall. >>
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Heads up, Nate Burleson broke his arm this morning. Dude must have been *really* hungry if he was more concerned about the pizza over his safety.
I once saw Jacoby out after a game and long story short, was not surprised. He likes to get his drink on, be surrounded by adult entertainers, and create an atmosphere (rather than call it a scene, since that typically has a negative connotation).
As a side note, McKinnie was also involved in the Vikings' Love Boat adventure.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Speaking of Fantasy Football, after going 6-1 this week I thought it would be interesting to see where my teams rank in total points compared to record...
Record (Total Points): 3-0 (3rd) 1-2 (2nd) 3-0 (1st) 1-2 (11th) 3-0 (1st) << This is cpamike's Collectors Universe league 1-2 (3rd) 2-1 (4th)
I don't do fantasy football, but since I'm a 'Hawks fan I'm wondering if any of you grabbed Wilson as your QB? I know he doesn't put up #'s to win you a league, but just curious.
<< <i>I don't do fantasy football, but since I'm a 'Hawks fan I'm wondering if any of you grabbed Wilson as your QB? I know he doesn't put up #'s to win you a league, but just curious. >>
He's my starter and in fantasy football it honestly doesn't matter who have you at QB at this point - the position is that deep. Anyone who reached and grabbed Aaron Rodgers early is really feeling the lack of depth at RB I am sure.
I have Rodgers in a 10-team league, but I grabbed him with my 4th pick. That's the game I lost this week... Rodgers and Cobb were worth a total of 18 points. That'll never happen again.
<< <i>I have Rodgers in a 10-team league, but I grabbed him with my 4th pick. That's the game I lost this week... Rodgers and Cobb were worth a total of 18 points. That'll never happen again. >>
Next week they give you 0 points
Seriously, though, there's something amiss in Green Bay. There's some weird discord going on between Rodgers and McCarthy, and this bye week couldn't have come at a better time. They better get things figured out or its going to be a long season on the frozen tundra.
Will Arian Foster ever regain anything close to fantasy dominance this season?
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<< <i>CJ Spiller is going to be a hands down stud. >>
Why don't you enlighten us as to why you think that's funny? >>
I don't have to enlighten you, CJ Spiller already did that for us.
That being said, every RB outside AP has risks. Foster didn't see a lick of preseason time, has a more than competent backup, and has seen his yards per carry fall off significantly over each of the past three years. Martin runs behind an offensive line that saw big injuries last year which affected his numbers, and has just one year of upper echelon numbers. Rice is going to see a huge number of 8 man fronts as there is no WR in Baltimore considered a threat. The list goes on and on. I wasn't alone in my projections of Spiller having a huge year, based on Jackson's injury history (no matter what some posters tell you, it's Spiller who played 16 games last year, not Jackson), the new offensive system in Buffalo predicated on running the ball, and his sterling 6.0 yards per carry.
However, it's been exactly ONE WEEK. Let's let some more time go by before you guys start running around pointing and screaming like a bunch of children, ok?
Keep it coming, fellas, keep showing how short-sighted you folks really are.
edit: by the way, 22 touches x 16 games = 352 touches. Methinks each and every one of you folks would be stoked to have your RB's get 350+ touches this year. But keep up the ignorance spewing! You two are doing great!
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Hey, he stole my line!
I like how he's now shifting to the 'if he gets over 20 touches' angle. Well yeah, that's one of the many question marks that so-called gurus completely ignored.
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I like how he's now shifting to the 'if he gets over 20 touches' angle. Well yeah, that's one of the many question marks that so-called gurus completely ignored. >>
Sorry but ill take the advice and feedback fom people who do fantasy football analysis for a living over some random guy on the internet working on a vendetta.
But keep getting worked up over one game...it only makes you look even more foolish.
<< <i>I already know how this ends. You engage me, I make you look completely foolish, and then you play the Tinkerbell card.
No thanks. Go yap elsewhere, boy. >>
<< <i>by the way, 22 touches x 16 games = 352 touches. Methinks each and every one of you folks would be stoked to have your RB's get 350+ touches this year. But keep up the ignorance spewing! You two are doing great! >>
By that logic, Spiller will also have 16 fumbles... ruh-roh!
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
A. Foster 18 57 3.2 0 9
Yikes!
Tate gained nearly as many yards, on half the carries! Based on this one game's worth of numbers, it's time to overreact, as that's what it seems some people like to do around here.
<< <i>I own Tate in three leagues, and Foster in zero. That's not a fluke. >>
Smart call.
Tate is in a contract year and after touching the ball over 1,100 times in the past three years, Foster's body could be breaking down. As a Texans fan, I don't give a dang who is in the backfield as long as they produce and we win. Foster, Tate, and Wood could (hopefully will) be a dangerous RB committee.
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<< <i>Foster and Spiller both might wind up to be fantasy busts this season, as top 5 first rounders, at least. It's only one week, but teams make changes quick, especially when viable options (F-Jax and Tate) are waiting in the wings. >>
That's always a possibility but difference being a track record versus speculation.
On the positive side, Foster had three years of top productivity, a solid O-Line, and legit SB aspirations. The question marks were he didn't play any pre-season due to injuries, over 1,100 touches in those three years, and Tate is in a contract year. One could make a well informed decision and aware of potential downside.
As for Spiller, he showed glimpses of breakaway speed, named the starter, and a gaudy YDS/A. Question marks included (but not limited to) history of being nicked up, limited experience as a starter, shaky O-Line, an unproven rookie QB, well established backup RB, etc. One would have to make a bunch of assumptions, hope for best case scenarios, and pray it works out.
If Foster has a terrible year, people that drafted him in the top 5 can't have any regrets. Sure, it would suck and feel like a wasted pick but they made a well reasoned decision. If CJ has a terrible year, people that drafted him in the top 5 will say, "Why in the heck did I listen to that so-called guru?!? He said Spiller was a lock for 2K yards!1!!"
Right now Im wishing I took Mcoy
<< <i>I grabbed Doug Martin #2 overall and Im stressed, however if I took Spiller Im freaking out
Right now Im wishing I took Mcoy >>
Of those three McCoy is far and away the most injury prone. No way he lasts with that kind of work and why Bell is going to be a huge asset.
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<< <i>I grabbed Doug Martin #2 overall and Im stressed, however if I took Spiller Im freaking out
Right now Im wishing I took Mcoy >>
Of those three McCoy is far and away the most injury prone. No way he lasts with that kind of work and why Bell is going to be a huge asset. >>
Bell? Do you mean Mcoys bachup Bryce Brown? If so I do agree I did snag him late if Mcoy does go down.
Oh and Stown- grats on the win! Check this out for an a$$froster.....I lost 145.50 to 146
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<< <i>I grabbed Doug Martin #2 overall and Im stressed, however if I took Spiller Im freaking out
Right now Im wishing I took Mcoy >>
Of those three McCoy is far and away the most injury prone. No way he lasts with that kind of work and why Bell is going to be a huge asset. >>
Bell? Do you mean Mcoys bachup Bryce Brown? If so I do agree I did snag him late if Mcoy does go down.
Oh and Stown- grats on the win! Check this out for an a$$froster.....I lost 145.50 to 146
I'm
Right brown sorry haha I picked up both brown and bell in Detroit I got them mixed up.
<< <i>Oh and Stown- grats on the win! Check this out for an a$$froster.....I lost 145.50 to 146
I hate it when that happens and my condolences for your loss
Good times.
LeSean McCoy said he thinks "[the Eagles] have to do a better job of monitoring the reps" in the backfield.
McCoy saw 32 total touches in Monday night's Week 1 win over the Redskins. "I think we can do a better job rotating because it’s a long season," McCoy said. "I don’t think I need to have the ball 31, 32 times in a game for us to be a successful offense. We have too many different weapons. I think the running backs we have here can definitely play." Bryce Brown saw just nine touches in the opener. It's safe to say McCoy will not be carrying the ball 30-plus times every week. However, he is going to have a monster workload in Chip Kelly's offense.
Source: Philly Mag: Birds 24/7 Sep 13 - 9:00 AM
I would rather sacrifice a couple points, even on a weekly basis, than see any RB getting that many touches in today's game.
<< <i>I've just never seen a player asking for more help... it's usually the other way around, with the player wanting the ball more. I get his point though. That's why I avoided him this season. Those who drafted the likes of McCoy and Vick will reap the benefits in the first few weeks, but it won't last. >>
You're right, it is very unusual to see but even as a 3rd year "owner" of McCoy, I'm happy to see him speak out. In that type of full gas offense, I think he'll have more than enough opportunities to go nuts while still getting a couple series off to recover. Chip will realize these guys have more than a three to four year window, which he's accustom to, and tinker with his game plan to accommodate franchise players for long term use.
I sent Jordy Nelson to my buddy for MJD, I needed a RB and he needed a WR, Now my lineup is .....
QB-Rodgers
RB-Martin
RB-MJD
WR-Marshall
WR-Colston
Flex- Roberts ( AZ WR )
<< <i>Well pulled the trigger on a Trade.
I sent Jordy Nelson to my buddy for MJD, I needed a RB and he needed a WR, Now my lineup is .....
QB-Rodgers
RB-Martin
RB-MJD
WR-Marshall
WR-Colston
Flex- Roberts ( AZ WR ) >>
I already know Im going to get my balls kicked in every week so I wont be getting annoyed anymore this season.
<< <i>CJ Spiller needs to average 132.6 yards for the next 14 games to reach 2K and has 0 touchdowns. >>
I read the same thing alot of people did "Im going to run him till he throws up"
Obviously it was a lie since he is 100% sharing carries with Fred Jax and in no way is he going to sniff 2K yards.
Oh and one other thing, no FREAKING way Peterson is going to get his "Goal" of 2500 yards rushing this year
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<< <i>Word was he suffered a knee injury...looking like a big-time bust at this point. >>
A bust like most of the top end running backs have been so far, that's for sure.
<< <i>Word was he suffered a knee injury...looking like a big-time bust at this point. >>
Injured his knee in the 4th quarter after averaging 0.9 (ZERO-POINT-NINE) yards per carry. Speaking of, he needs to average 142 yards for the next 13 games to reach 2K and has 0 touchdowns.
On the other hand, the consistent RBs that didn't have injury and/or loaded backfield concerns are more than holding their own at this point:
AP has 333 total yards and 4 TDs.
McCoy has 513 total yards and 2 TDs.
Jamaal has 375 total yards and 3 TDs.
Lynch has 256 total yards and 3 TDs.
Forte has 363 total yards and 3 TDs.
I feel better now
Thanks
<< <i>Sitting there suggesting you knew it all along is not only disingenuous it's just idiotic. >>
But we did know it all along. Read the previous posts.
<< <i>Charles has been sweet for me, and I own him in five leagues. I also own Knile Davis in those leagues.
Nice job with Charles, he might end up being the #1 or #2 Back this year, I think Mcoy and Forte look to be in the running as well as ofcourse AP.
Link
<< <i>Burleson was driving a 2009 GMC Yukon SUV westbound when he was distracted by pizza falling off his front seat, according to the Michigan State Police. He lost control of the car and struck the center median wall. >>
<< <i>Heads up, Nate Burleson broke his arm this morning. Dude must have been *really* hungry if he was more concerned about the pizza over his safety.
Link >>
Oh the NFL and their wacky receivers... Ravens WR Jacoby Jones injured by stripper on party bus
<< <i>Perkdog, who else is in your lineup? I need to know who I should preemptively trade away. lol >>
I'm sorry, Paul, but that was funny.
<< <i>Oh the NFL and their wacky receivers... Ravens WR Jacoby Jones injured by stripper on party bus >>
I once saw Jacoby out after a game and long story short, was not surprised. He likes to get his drink on, be surrounded by adult entertainers, and create an atmosphere (rather than call it a scene, since that typically has a negative connotation).
As a side note, McKinnie was also involved in the Vikings' Love Boat adventure.
Record (Total Points):
3-0 (3rd)
1-2 (2nd)
3-0 (1st)
1-2 (11th)
3-0 (1st) << This is cpamike's Collectors Universe league
1-2 (3rd)
2-1 (4th)
Not a bad start!
<< <i>I don't do fantasy football, but since I'm a 'Hawks fan I'm wondering if any of you grabbed Wilson as your QB? I know he doesn't put up #'s to win you a league, but just curious. >>
He's my starter and in fantasy football it honestly doesn't matter who have you at QB at this point - the position is that deep. Anyone who reached and grabbed Aaron Rodgers early is really feeling the lack of depth at RB I am sure.
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<< <i>Perkdog, who else is in your lineup? I need to know who I should preemptively trade away. lol >>
I'm sorry, Paul, but that was funny.
Yes it was!
( And a good idea )
<< <i>I have Rodgers in a 10-team league, but I grabbed him with my 4th pick. That's the game I lost this week... Rodgers and Cobb were worth a total of 18 points. That'll never happen again. >>
Next week they give you 0 points
Seriously, though, there's something amiss in Green Bay. There's some weird discord going on between Rodgers and McCarthy, and this bye week couldn't have come at a better time. They better get things figured out or its going to be a long season on the frozen tundra.
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