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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've got to tip my cap to BBCE. Their facebook coverage has been outstanding and they've put up a TON of incredible photos with anecdotes about sales. I hope this continues through the whole show as I'm having a ton of fun following along.
  • esquiresportsesquiresports Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭
    I've seen PSA 7s from 1971 Topps baseball bring over $800 at auction, so I am thinking $20K for a 1971 Topps baseball box would be possible. However, the spread between BBCE's published buy prices (in this case $8K) and sell prices usually doesn't exceed 100%.
    Always buying 1971 OPC Baseball packs.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Holy Wax Trays!!! Curious what the 72 trays are going for, as well as the 77, 79, and 80.

    Anyone? >>



    A baseball 72 tray? I'd estimate retail price, depending on condition, about $1,200. For 77, about $300. 79s and 80s go for about $70 now retail. Trays from 78 and earlier are tough to find. I have never even seen a 71 (or 73) tray, though I have seen a 69 and 70 tray.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • bziddybziddy Posts: 710 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Holy Wax Trays!!! Curious what the 72 trays are going for, as well as the 77, 79, and 80.

    Anyone? >>



    A baseball 72 tray? I'd estimate retail price, depending on condition, about $1,200. For 77, about $300. 79s and 80s go for about $70 now retail. Trays from 78 and earlier are tough to find. I have never even seen a 71 (or 73) tray, though I have seen a 69 and 70 tray. >>



    Looks like the '72 is priced at 1500. The '80 at $80. '79 at $80. '70 rack at $1700? '74 rack at $300? '74 tray at $375?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Holy Wax Trays!!! Curious what the 72 trays are going for, as well as the 77, 79, and 80.

    Anyone? >>



    A baseball 72 tray? I'd estimate retail price, depending on condition, about $1,200. For 77, about $300. 79s and 80s go for about $70 now retail. Trays from 78 and earlier are tough to find. I have never even seen a 71 (or 73) tray, though I have seen a 69 and 70 tray. >>



    Looks like the '72 is priced at 1500. The '80 at $80. '79 at $80. '70 rack at $1700? '74 rack at $300? '74 tray at $375? >>



    Those prices are probably in line when you factor in the BBCE premium.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Holy Wax Trays!!! Curious what the 72 trays are going for, as well as the 77, 79, and 80.

    Anyone? >>



    A baseball 72 tray? I'd estimate retail price, depending on condition, about $1,200. For 77, about $300. 79s and 80s go for about $70 now retail. Trays from 78 and earlier are tough to find. I have never even seen a 71 (or 73) tray, though I have seen a 69 and 70 tray. >>



    Looks like the '72 is priced at 1500. The '80 at $80. '79 at $80. '70 rack at $1700? '74 rack at $300? '74 tray at $375? >>



    Those prices are probably in line when you factor in the BBCE premium. >>



    You guys are the BEST. Thanks so much for the quick replies. Now the question is...How much, if any, of that stuff makes it back to the shop?

    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,165 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One thing not mentioned here yet is the 1989 Score football vending boxes they've got. Can honestly say I'd never heard of them before they posted the pics.
  • spazzyspazzy Posts: 592 ✭✭
    How much of this stuff is going to be ripped in the next year, how much is going to be accumulated away and how much is going to affect the unopened market . I see lots of 70s stuff there and I wish I was there.
  • flatfoot816flatfoot816 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭
    Standing in the VIP line waiting for 330 entrance. Will let you guys know what's up when I get there and finish buying.
    I've targeted several things I hope BBCE has.
  • cincyredlegscincyredlegs Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Standing in the VIP line waiting for 330 entrance. Will let you guys know what's up when I get there and finish buying.
    I've targeted several things I hope BBCE has. >>



    C'mon Manny, quit buying all the good stuff and tell us what you got. image

    Mark
    Project:

    T206 Set - 300/524
  • Question about the 59 cello box.

    Wouldn't the person who buys it want to open the BBCE seal for display purposes ?
  • If it has not been mentioned, the 3 boxes of 1991 Desert Storm sold out at $5,000 a box. The 1987 Fleer Basketball box sold at $25,000.
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭
    He can pack up and go home now image
    opcbaseball.com
  • cincyredlegscincyredlegs Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭
    I can't understand why BBCE's website is not updated with all the boxes being shown on Facebook................image

    Mark
    Project:

    T206 Set - 300/524
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>I can't understand why BBCE's website is not updated with all the boxes being shown on Facebook................image

    Mark >>


    Thats what i would like to see as well mark, as i do not have Facebook.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If it has not been mentioned, the 3 boxes of 1991 Desert Storm sold out at $5,000 a box. The 1986 Fleer Basketball box sold at $25,000. >>



    Fixed.
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>If it has not been mentioned, the 3 boxes of 1991 Desert Storm sold out at $5,000 a box. The 1986 Fleer Basketball box sold at $25,000. >>



    Fixed. >>



    What is up with this price??? Seems like that's double what the last few went for.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • al032184al032184 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭
    The 86 Fleer box had one pack with Jordan RC on top and Jordan sticker on back. He also had a second 86 fleer box with two packs that had Jordan RC on top that sold for 25K

  • Non-Sport wax!
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    Montana rookie rack packs
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    Rack packs with stars on top
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    1975 Topps FB cello boxes, 1977 Topps FB wax box, 1977 Topps Mexican FB wax boxes
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    This is a 1979/80 Topps Basketball wax case. See that sticker on the case? I can't say with 100% certainty, but I think that's a Topps inventory sticker. A lot of cool stuff that's been coming out of the Topps archives have these tags with their internal codes.
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    This 1986/87 Fleer Basketball wax box has a pack with a Jordan rookie on top and a Jordan sticker on back! The odds on a pack like this is 1 in 1,452 - and probably almost impossible to find. Steve has only graded one pack like this. This box also sold this morning for $25,000.
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    1993 SP Baseball Foil Case - factory sealed, for now. Two dealers just bought the case and are going to crack it tonight!
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  • And we've already started buying stuff from dealers!
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    What is the rarest unopened product from the 1980s? I always forget about this impossible product - 1989 Score Football Vending Box.
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    We just sold THREE 1991 Topps Baseball Desert Shield wax boxes for $5,000 each.
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    Wax trays
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  • Those were from BBCE's Facebook page. Reed's comments I assume.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome display of unopened!!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭
    I bought the 1974 topps cello pack with Yaz on top. Also, my brother had given me a hundred dollar bill for my bday to buy a wax box for my pc so I bought a 1985 Topps baseball.


    ** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
  • TheDudeAbidesTheDudeAbides Posts: 400 ✭✭✭
    My first stop ... BBCE. I picked up the 70 rack and 74 rack seen in the last posted picture. Steve and staff were very busy. I just missed out on a graded 70 wax pack with the high number Nolan Ryan showing on the bottom of the pack. The submission lines at PSA were so long, I walked away and came back over an hour later, only to wait another 25 or 30 minutes. Good to see Steve and some old friends from back in the day. Good show from my standpoint, going in again on Friday, gotta work tomorrow, and pay off some of this stuff.
    Collecting 64, 66, 67, 70 & 71 Baseball. Cubs, wax, cello & rack baseball.
  • BIGBEN7BIGBEN7 Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
    Are those 1985 topps or opc hockey boxes and what are the prices?
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Capitals ... thanks for showing the pics! Even though I don't have facebook, I was PM'd their site, so I can now follow the pics they put up.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    Great pickups!

    aconte
  • Did anyone notice if there were any 1975 Topps Football Cello boxes left after today and the price ?
  • While we are waiting for more BBCE updates, here is a tour of the Topps Booth

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  • And Marty's Sports Card Exchange

    Video

    Hopefully some BBCE Video will pop up soon!
  • flatfoot816flatfoot816 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭
    Finished up the sneak peak. Unopened is king.
    The BBCE booth is by far the best display. Not just in terms of product but its overall much more professional looking than 95% of the other booths. Spent first 15 minutes there and I am pretty much done for the rest of the week! Met Eric(thosebackpages) and newbi BH(Bob). My overall impression of the 1st day----lots and lots of raw cards. I mean a ton. Some dealers had their tables so disorganized it was tough to see what they had. Wondered why they were here. Also tons of new stuff. I think more new shiny stuff than vintage. Also looked for stuff that others wanted--no luck boys! I came primarily to buy unopened and am pretty satisfied with what I got. I am looking forward to meeting up with board members tomorrow
  • mknezmknez Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭
    Manny, I just missed you at the BBCE booth, hope to meet you tomorrow!

    Dude, they will have another 1970 rack pack for sale, as soon as the shrink wrap machine is fired up!

    Overall, a great display by BBCE, much more than I expected after the drought this year. Hope they can keep the shelves stocked.

    ------
    stupid print dots

  • Convention VIP Swag Bag

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  • A random tour of the convention floor

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  • MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 525 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Did anyone notice if there were any 1975 Topps Football Cello boxes left after today and the price ? >>



    Just now talked to CPAMike. the 75 FB cello boxes are 2K and they only have 2 left.

    Jim
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Did anyone notice if there were any 1975 Topps Football Cello boxes left after today and the price ? >>



    Just now talked to CPAMike. the 75 FB cello boxes are 2K and they only have 2 left.

    Jim >>



    Thanks for the info.

    Any idea on the 1975 mini cello box pricing and qty left?

    aconte
  • shu4040shu4040 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭
    wow, shocked they sold 10 75 fb cello at 2K in one day!


  • << <i>wow, shocked they sold 10 75 fb cello at 2K in one day! >>



    Plenty of big fish in a small pond.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    sooner than later that price will be cheap.
  • spazzyspazzy Posts: 592 ✭✭
    Can anyone list some more prices fo the wax boxes that they have not sold. Are there any 3 or 6 box rack cases there?
  • bziddybziddy Posts: 710 ✭✭✭
    I'm just hoping some of it makes it back to the warehouse.

    The prices they are getting are amazing. I had a conversation with my 10 yr old the other day -- he asked if maybe next summer we could go to the National. Was explaining to him the costs of going (airfare, hotel, admission, + buying stuff + autographs). I told him that for it to be worth it for us to spend that money to go, I'd need $20k to spend AT the national to make it worth it, plus a really good explanation for his mother why I spent $20k on baseball cards when we already have too many. Considering that my annual budget for cards is a very small percent of that number...it's probably not going to happen.

    I'm beginning to think that $20k wouldn't have lasted me very long.
  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    I literally had the money in my hand to buy (3) 1985 Topps FB cello boxes when the guy in front of me decided to buy two of them. Sort of a bummer.

    Their selection is amazing today, which makes me wonder just what it looked like in their booth yesterday. Frankly, the rest of the room was a bore in comparison.
  • MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 525 ✭✭✭
    As of an hour ago, CPAMike said there were 10 - 75 mini wax boxes at 2250 and 3 - 75 mini cello boxes at 3300.

    Jim
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
  • MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 525 ✭✭✭
    I know the 72 BB tray pack and 74 FB tray pack have been sold

    Jim
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>As of an hour ago, CPAMike said there were 10 - 75 mini wax boxes at 2250 and 3 - 75 mini cello boxes at 3300.

    Jim >>



    Thanks for the update Jim.

    aconte
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    The rest of the show is like a vast wasteland as far as older unopened goes. Very little around. Well, I was able to find an SP Jeter box at Dave and Adams but I didn't see any others.
    Nikklos
  • flatfoot816flatfoot816 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭
    lotta stuff blew off the shelves at BBCE. They still have:

    1-'79 BB cello box($900)
    several '80 Topps BB wax boxes--($650)
    a number of "81, '82. '83 BB cello and w($160, $240, $220)
    '75 topps mini wax case--$39,000
    some '70 basketball boxes
    star racks
    many graded cellos and wax packs

    oh yeah...and lots of shelf space!!

    they had a '78 Topps BB Rack case--but it was sold at 340 yesterday afternoon image
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭
    They have 1970 basketball boxes??? Or did you mean 70's? Would love to knw what those go for.
  • spazzyspazzy Posts: 592 ✭✭
    I would love to know what a 78 BB rack case sold for. A 79 cello at $900? A 1980 wax box for $650? I hope they were mint andother 80 packs beauty. A 1980 wax box is BIN for 495.00 on ebay along with other packs1-'79 BB cello box($900)
    several '80 Topps BB wax boxes--($650)
    a number of "81, '82. '83 BB cello and w($160, $240, $220)
    '75 topps mini wax case--$39,000
    some '70 basketball boxes
    star racks
    many graded cellos and wax packs

    oh yeah...and lots of shelf space!!

    they had a '78 Topps BB Rack case--but it was sold at 340 yesterday afternoon image >>



    Congrats, how much did u drop on it? >>

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