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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i>good idea, let someone else do the work for / or find out for you... >>




    Geez such bitterness. I never thought you harbored such ill will.

    How about by me asking such a question other people might benefit from it?

    Next time I'll make sure to preface my questions here, I wouldn't want to give you
    any lame excuse to act like a DB.


    I'll allow you the final word on this, I'm sure you'll take it.




    Good for you.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To ACL Sportscards. >>



    Is that a new grading company?
  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    Personal disagreements between members should be dealt with through PM's, instead of clogging up the thread, IMHO.
  • I don't care to further argue with you because all the context of your posts are so negative and always have some undertone with a "shot" at me, and even when I ignore it the posts still come. You can stop the cyberstalking it's getting old very quickly and seems unhealthy that you have such an obsession with a 20 year old, after all, if you believe the things you are saying you don't seem to think much of me, so why even comment? Now you can't say I haven't asked you to stop - because I said it very clearly in the post. Stop. I don't want to hear from you, I don't want you to speak of me, enough is enough.

    I'm not arguing, I just flat out called you a lying sack of sh$t. The torn ACL, the pain meds, the bleeding ulcers, the 2 trips a day to the doctor .. When does the BS stop ? Is it a brain tumor next week ? You admitted to exaggerating about the doctor trips after being called on it. It's not exaggerating, it's lying. Thanks everyone for the supportive PM's

    I'd be very surprised if a seasoned, and well respected, seller wants YOU speaking on their behalf. On behalf typically means you've received approval.
  • Personal disagreements between members should be dealt with through PM's

    I would agree with this. Problem is, I received a PM from the target of the current pile-on. Once I responded and it went back and forth, they just posted the PM's.
    I thought PM meant Private
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>good idea, let someone else do the work for / or find out for you... >>




    Geez such bitterness. I never thought you harbored such ill will.

    How about by me asking such a question other people might benefit from it?

    Next time I'll make sure to preface my questions here, I wouldn't want to give you
    any lame excuse to act like a DB.


    I'll allow you the final word on this, I'm sure you'll take it. >>



    This must be the help you give the boards...

    keep it up...

    says the man with 29,000 posts and 40,000 edits...image



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  • I'm surprised a middle aged man has such an obsession with a 20 year old. Once again, I ask you stop stalking me it is becoming extremely bothersome.


    I'm also having trouble finding where my ebay is suspended, seems working just find to me.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm surprised a middle aged man has such an obsession with a 20 year old. Once again, I ask you stop stalking me it is becoming extremely bothersome.


    I'm also having trouble finding where my ebay is suspended, seems working just find to me. >>



    I wouldnt consider it stalking when you are openly posting to a thread on a message board. It's a pretty popular thread. Not only that, you are in most threads with your plethora of knowledge and so happy to give it. Hard to stalk someone in the threads when you are in most of them.

    Stalking is when you make the efforts to find a person on facebook, get names of friends and family on their list, and threaten to contact them to get a persons personal information. Does this sound familiar, Sean?

    I think you have an obsession with being obsessed and that is extremely bothersome but it surely wont make me lose sleep.

    Now lets continue with the subject at hand because its a pretty interesting one.
  • Funny. Turns out you're not 20. Not sure why you're BS'ing everyone.
    I believe you initiated the harassment with the PM's
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Now lets continue with the subject at hand because its a pretty interesting one. >>



    Which subject or theme would you consider the most interesting in this thread, Barry? Is it:

    a) Craig was unhappy with Rick's lack of fee transparency and description quality
    b) some musclehead receiving a little cuppage by the pool
    c) Sean is now accepting consignments at 18%
    d) most people on the boards love Rick
    e) most don't know when they're being mocked
    f) Steve thinks it's his fault
    g) some sellers still charge %#*@ing $5 for shipping
    e) all of the above

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  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Now lets continue with the subject at hand because its a pretty interesting one. >>



    Which subject or theme would you consider the most interesting in this thread, Barry? Is it:

    a) Craig was unhappy with Rick's lack of fee transparency and description quality
    b) some musclehead receiving a little cuppage by the pool
    c) Sean is now accepting consignments at 18%
    d) most people on the boards love Rick
    e) most don't know when they're being mocked
    f) Steve thinks it's his fault
    g) some sellers still charge %#*@ing $5 for shipping
    e) all of the above >>



    Well, now that you put it like that, I think its answer "e) all of the above"
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  • Erm, so how old am i?
  • Mdube16Mdube16 Posts: 744 ✭✭


    << <i>I'm surprised a middle aged man has such an obsession with a 20 year old. Once again, I ask you stop stalking me it is becoming extremely bothersome.


    I'm also having trouble finding where my ebay is suspended, seems working just find to me. >>




    Really? Im a high road kind of guy so Ill not start posting PMs sent earlier in the week.

    This is a great thread btw but it needs more Veronica Belmont
  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭


    << <i>Funny. Turns out you're not 20. Not sure why you're BS'ing everyone >>



    Please tell us what you know??
  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Erm, so how old am i? >>



    With all the lies and BS you throw out there I would say you act like a spoiled child so that would put you at about 12 years old!!
    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • Really? Im a high road kind of guy so Ill not start posting PMs sent earlier in the week.

    Stalking ? Really ? I just pile-on in a thread and caught your ulcers/2 trips a day lie. I believe you PM'd me. Maybe you were having
    pain killer issues that morning. I was pretty clear in my response, do not contact me and you continued.
    Would you like me to go into your previous threats ? You're going to end up with the police at your door one day.

    BTW, he already posted this. 5 minutes after his high road, the PM trail was posted.

    Note the good with computers comment. That means I'll contact all your Facebook and LinkedIn contacts are destroy you.


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  • Mdube16Mdube16 Posts: 744 ✭✭


    << <i>Really? Im a high road kind of guy so Ill not start posting PMs sent earlier in the week.

    Stalking ? Really ? I just pile-on in a thread and caught your ulcers/2 trips a day lie. I believe you PM'd me. Maybe you were having
    pain killer issues that morning. I was pretty clear in my response, do not contact me and you continued.
    Would you like me to go into your previous threats ? You're going to end up with the police at your door one day.

    BTW, he already posted this. 5 minutes after his high road, the PM trail was posted.

    Note the good with computers comment. That means I'll contact all your Facebook and LinkedIn contacts are destroy you.


    image >>



    I was actually referring to a PM conversation I had with him where he claimed his Ebay account was suspended but this was a good read as well!
  • He was suspended. Many of us have been suspended in the past for no good reason. It's just the ebay way
  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone seen the movie Unstoppable with Denzel Washington?
    This thread is the alternate ending where they were unable to stop the train.

    .
    Synopsis.
    .


    A freight train is carrying a dangerous cargo of combustible liquids and poisonous gas. When its engineer sets the engine on full throttle and leaves the cab and does not return, the train proceeds unmanned, creating a potential disaster. Two men, Frank Barnes and Will Colson, are sent by the yardmaster to do the near impossible--board the runaway train and stop it before it is too late.
  • This thread is the alternate ending where they were unable to stop the train.

    I don't get it. How can you try to stop a train with a torn ACL and your ulcer is gushing ?

    One of the few Denzel movies I had not seen.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i like the one where he trains the rookie and dares King Kong to sh!!t on him.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can't we all just get along? >>

    no, we can't
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭
    You're wrong, Geordie
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭
    I agree with Geordie
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Hi Geordie, just flip a coin and call it a day.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    I find it so difficult to bite my tongue, but I'm going to.

    Suffice it to say that this thread has provided more fodder than one can possibly imagine, but I just can't . . . nope . . . I won't . . . But dasm, I really want to!!!
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    hello mudder
    hello fodder
    here i am at camp with Scott(er)
    life is very entertaining
    'til they say we should STFU and stop complaining.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is a great thread btw but it needs more Veronica Belmont >>



    POTD!
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This is a great thread btw but it needs more Veronica Belmont >>



    POTD! >>



    image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    I wonder where that finger has been.

    image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Like perhaps fa... I mean tapping on a keyboard or pushing an elevator button....
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    I guess I just don't get it. I intentionally avoid PWCC and Probstein auctions because I know the prices will end up being jacked up higher than everyone else's. The cards I have bought on EBay have come from lesser known sellers with 100% feedback. I guess I can see the logic in using those guys to sell your cards if they're getting 20% higher, but I fail to see the logic in buying from them and paying a much higher price
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  • << <i>I guess I just don't get it. I intentionally avoid PWCC and Probstein auctions because I know the prices will end up being jacked up higher than everyone else's. The cards I have bought on EBay have come from lesser known sellers with 100% feedback. I guess I can see the logic in using those guys to sell your cards if they're getting 20% higher, but I fail to see the logic in buying from them and paying a much higher price >>



    Bingo!
  • I wonder if JAG85 got his question answered?

  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder if JAG85 got his question answered? >>



    My experience with one of them would lead me to an answer of "whatever he wants, apparently."
  • so by "whatever he wants" you mean a st%ck up the a$$ + coppertone spf 8 poolside?

  • ArchaninatorArchaninator Posts: 827 ✭✭✭
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  • Let's continue to focus on 30 cent hidden fees that aren't even hidden while completely dismissing an admission of fraud.

    Priorities.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< I wonder if JAG85 got his question answered? >> >>




    Didn't you know that their is a phone number to call?

    Some image mentioned that earlier.


    Good for you.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Let's continue to focus on 30 cent hidden fees that aren't even hidden while completely dismissing an admission of fraud.

    Priorities. >>



    Yes, you're right. It's only $.30 per listing, so everyone should just forget about it. Disregard the fact that it was overcharged 144 times in one batch of items that were mailed to him. Disregard his response of, "==> we charge this per item....." rather than paying me the $43.20 he took out of my pocket by his less than honest practices.

    People have been run off this board for doing less.

    But yeah, let's just ignore it because someone who's been here for 5 minutes says so.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If listed properly SMR's can sell for $29. image >>



    Your listing was part of the reason I wanted to sell mine. It's amazing how well things sell if listed properly.

    Listed improperly - "Lot of (24) 2009-20012 SMR Sports Market Report Magazine w/ Presley Mays Cover

    Listed properly - "2001 & 2012 SMR (SPORTS MARKET REPORT) 5 MAG LOT RODGERS-BERRA-SUPERMAN

    For the record, all 5 of the issues in the listing that was done properly were also in the lot of 24 that were listed by the professional.
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    The SMR's you consigned were auctioned starting at 99 cents. Risky at best.

    The one you're comparing it to was a fixed price listing starting at $20 .
    Big difference right there. The fixed price listing even had an error
    calling Yogi Berra, Yoggie Berra in the description.

    What I have to ask is why would you even consider mailing these heavy
    SMR's to Probstein anyway to list? It doesn't seem cost effective to me.
    Why not just list it yourself with a BIN and mail them off in a flat rate box
    once they've sold?

    I don't feel your SMR selling complaints are valid with the way Probstein listed them.
    His title is fine. He listed a few of the key cover subjects in the title. Used Presley
    instead of 'Elvis' , big deal. All a buyer needs to see is SMR and lot in the title to
    make a determination if they might want to bid. Maybe the size of the lot was too large.
    That's about it.

    Your other issues with him, yeah I think you have a valid point of
    contention about them. Lesson learned. Ask many questions, or get
    a contract or print out of the consignment terms upfront.
  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Let's continue to focus on 30 cent hidden fees that aren't even hidden while completely dismissing an admission of fraud. Priorities. >>



    Someone really has it in for PWCC.

    A new member, no less.

    A competitor, maybe?

    Hmmm....

    Nick
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i><< I wonder if JAG85 got his question answered? >> >>




    Didn't you know that their is a phone number to call?

    Some image mentioned that earlier. >>



    sure you dont want to edit this...


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  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    Yes, you're right. It's only $.30 per listing, so everyone should just forget about it. Disregard the fact that it was overcharged 144 times in one batch of items that were mailed to him. Disregard his response of, "==> we charge this per item....." rather than paying me the $43.20 he took out of my pocket by his less than honest practices.

    Once again you're assuming that each buyer only paid one PayPal payment for all their combined winnings. It's an annoyingly common occurrence for the same buyer to make multiple PayPal payments on purchases that should have been combined. Also, it's not 30 cents coming out of your pocket. The 30 cents would just increase the net sales price by 30 cents. Since the net sales price is split 85/15, 90/10, or 95/5 that would mean on a 90/10 split the 30 cents is only 27 cents, and that's assuming each multiple card buyer only made one payment.
  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭✭
    It is interesting that anyone would actually defend the $0.30 paypal fee charge on every item when the fee is not actually being paid. It is simply a mechanism probstein is using to pad his bottom line. While it is certainly possible that in several cases the buyer did in fact pay individually don't you think that is something Probstein should track and charge the fee accordingly? It is unclear how this would be unexpected for a business specializing in consignment sales on eBay.

    It is unclear from Gumby's posts if he asked for the 24 SMRs to be listed individually or if he requested they be listed with BINs. Based on eBay completed sales you can't start SMRs at $0.99 auctions and expect them to sell well. You need to list for $5 or $6 BINs and have patience for them to sell. If Gumby didn't ask for the SMRs to be listed individually with BINs then it is his fault for not specifying how he wanted the items listed. Most of the other complaints are simply nitpicking and sour grapes that the low dollar items were in fact low dollar items. $0.99 auctions are definitely not the way to go for most items selling on eBay these days. Occasionally a bidding war will erupt unexpectedly but reasonably priced BINs or higher starting price auctions definitely work better regardless of the seller's ebay following. However that model requires either the consignor or consignee know the market and price each item accordingly.

    Robb
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>It is interesting that anyone would actually defend the $0.30 paypal fee charge on every item when the fee is not actually being paid. It is simply a mechanism probstein is using to pad his bottom line. While it is certainly possible that in several cases the buyer did in fact pay individually don't you think that is something Probstein should track and charge the fee accordingly? It is unclear how this would be unexpected for a business specializing in consignment sales on eBay.

    It is unclear from Gumby's posts if he asked for the 24 SMRs to be listed individually or if he requested they be listed with BINs. Based on eBay completed sales you can't start SMRs at $0.99 auctions and expect them to sell well. You need to list for $5 or $6 BINs and have patience for them to sell. If Gumby didn't ask for the SMRs to be listed individually with BINs then it is his fault for not specifying how he wanted the items listed. Most of the other complaints are simply nitpicking and sour grapes that the low dollar items were in fact low dollar items. $0.99 auctions are definitely not the way to go for most items selling on eBay these days. Occasionally a bidding war will erupt unexpectedly but reasonably priced BINs or higher starting price auctions definitely work better regardless of the seller's ebay following. However that model requires either the consignor or consignee know the market and price each item accordingly.

    Robb >>



    I can easily see the issue of charging the fee for every listing, regardless of payment grouping, could simply be a convenience issue rather than anything more nefarious. Not sure that a high-volume consignor would be able to determine whether payments were grouped or not very easily. It's one thing to get a listing of all paid auctions; it's probably quite another to check for something like that.

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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm completely going in a different direction........I'm sending all my consignments to Levi and Deans Cards. I will tell them to list my PSA 6 1967 baseball commons for $25 each. On second thought........this may go against their business models. I'll have them list them at their prices ($29.99).image
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