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  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭
    For what its worth, I think we can go around in circles for quite a while and not make much more progress on this issue.
    I'm not really sure what more can be gained by continuing to turn this into a "who's wrong" and "who's right" issue.

    What we know as fact is that the consignor and the consignee were not on the same page from the outset with regards to
    several important areas (fees, how to list items, etc.)

    We also know that some of these issues were raised via communications between the parties but were not successfully resolved.
    Others seem to not have been raised at all.

    Hopefully both parties involved and all of us have gained some insight into paying attention to detail and learned how to get bettert
    clarity in these situations for the future.

    I'll stand by what I posted earlier. I believe Rick and Brent to be honest, hard-working and above-average in their customer
    service approach. My personal experiences with both have been very good. I am sure that they do make mistakes from time-
    to-time. I am sure that there will be instances where they won't be able to work out issues with people. No one bats 1000.

    The best thing to do is call them and speak to them directly. Ask questions about things that matter to you. Ask about what
    you have read here. In general, do your "homework" and then make an informed decision.


    Dave
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    ok, this thread was becoming a total drag until Tommy typed butt rangers.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>ok, this thread was becoming a total drag until Tommy typed butt rangers. >>



    lol, I knew that would get a chuckle from you Jeff.
  • If neither has appeal, you can always consign to the boards very own 20 year old, but only on weeks where his
    ACL is not torn and not on the pain meds image
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If listed properly SMR's can sell for $29. image

  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You, on the other hand, and some of the other internet butt rangers on here, open every thread I start and retort with some smart ass comment when it doesn't even interest you. >>



    I'm sorry if I've hurt you, Tommy. I truly am. However, I'd like to ask you to point me toward where I've done that to you. Because in reality, I only open about 5-10% of the threads around here most of the time. I'm certain you start more threads than that.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>ok, this thread was becoming a total drag until Tommy typed butt rangers. >>



    You can't blame him. He probably thought he was on google. image
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Is this my fault yet?


    image
    Good for you.
  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭


    << <i>Is this my fault yet?


    image >>



    Not yet but that could change at any minute image
  • cincyredlegscincyredlegs Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭
    Does someone have the bouncing rack girl they can post.......we need some relief. image
    Project:

    T206 Set - 300/524
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭


    << <i>For what its worth, I think we can go around in circles for quite a while and not make much more progress on this issue.
    I'm not really sure what more can be gained by continuing to turn this into a "who's wrong" and "who's right" issue.

    What we know as fact is that the consignor and the consignee were not on the same page from the outset with regards to
    several important areas (fees, how to list items, etc.)

    We also know that some of these issues were raised via communications between the parties but were not successfully resolved.
    Others seem to not have been raised at all.

    Hopefully both parties involved and all of us have gained some insight into paying attention to detail and learned how to get bettert
    clarity in these situations for the future.

    I'll stand by what I posted earlier. I believe Rick and Brent to be honest, hard-working and above-average in their customer
    service approach. My personal experiences with both have been very good. I am sure that they do make mistakes from time-
    to-time. I am sure that there will be instances where they won't be able to work out issues with people. No one bats 1000.

    The best thing to do is call them and speak to them directly. Ask questions about things that matter to you. Ask about what
    you have read here. In general, do your "homework" and then make an informed decision. >>



    The voice of reason, well put.
  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭✭
    I have to admit the more I read 1 of the listings......... Maybe the most recognizable name in history of all forms of entertainment....ELVIS. I don't think I have or have ever heard him referred to as Presley. Elvis or Elvis Presley. The more and more I'm thinking about this entire thread...Gumby has done absolutely nothing wrong. In short...if Rick did not want the consignments and was not going to put forth a quality effort in listing the auctions he should have politely declined the lesser valued items. It seems like with all of the labels and communication that Gumby provided....no way is he at fault.


  • << <i>If neither has appeal, you can always consign to the boards very own 20 year old, but only on weeks where his
    ACL is not torn and not on the pain meds image >>



    Hi, thanks for the suggestion.

    Just remember the only person who was told about the ACL was the e-mail to Garthman.
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    I would have paid $5.00 for the SMR's!
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would have paid $5.00 for the SMR's! >>



    Shame you didn't search Presley Mays.
  • Just remember the only person who was told about the ACL was the e-mail to Garthman.

    Maybe you have no memory due to pain killers, you posted the E-Mail on the board. Your dad/quack diagnosed your torn ACL. image
    Don't you remember hopping to your CL finds.

    If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.” ― Mark Twain
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have to admit the more I read 1 of the listings......... Maybe the most recognizable name in history of all forms of entertainment....ELVIS. I don't think I have or have ever heard him referred to as Presley. Elvis or Elvis Presley. The more and more I'm thinking about this entire thread...Gumby has done absolutely nothing wrong. In short...if Rick did not want the consignments and was not going to put forth a quality effort in listing the auctions he should have politely declined the lesser valued items. It seems like with all of the labels and communication that Gumby provided....no way is he at fault. >>



    That makes sense. One of the most basic fundamentals of selling on Ebay is knowing what keywords to put into your listings. If you don't put the right words in, noone can find your items.
  • hi guys,
    first off I'd like to say that I have great appreciation for the CU community and I think threads such as this can be valuable on many levels.

    From my perspective there is a difference between miscommunication and intent to misinform which implies lack of integrity.
    My "INTEGRITY" has been questioned. As a result I'd like to reply with the following points...
    1) I've been a dealer since 1981.
    2) I have 100% feedback on over 135,000 total ebay transactions.
    3) At this point we are the largest sports card and memorabilia consignor on ebay with an active consignor pool over of 200 consignors and
    we on pace to break 5 million in sales for 2012. The majority of my consignments are from REPEAT clients.
    4) We provide every consignor with a detailed excel spreadsheet with all the ebay and paypal fees involved.
    We cash flow all consignments and we pay consignors before we are paid in full by buyers (unless a sale looks problematic )
    5) We are the ONLY major auction entity that " takes the good with the bad " ( without bulking everything into lots ).... yes, we accept lower dollar items as long as consignors
    are giving us good items as well....
    6) We do our best to clearly communicate everything involved in the consignment process and items that we consider acceptable to auction.
    I certainly would never want a client to feel misinformed or that we didn't give an auction our best effort.
    7) On many occasions , we have shipped back inventory that we felt wasn't worthy - at the expense of PROBSTEIN123 - not the consignor.
    8) We will continue to try and make any improvements possible - I have read the feedbacks on the thread - and I appreciate the ability to communicate openly
    in such a forum.
    9) Our discount rates for CU members are still in effect...You get 95% after net profit is determined ( post ebay and paypal fees ) - if net profit is above the $25 mark
    and you get 90% after net profit is determined ( post ebay and paypal fees ) - if net profit below the $25 mark.
    10) Feel free to call me anytime to discuss anything involving this thread ==> 973 747 6304

    Thanks so much

    Rick Probstein
    Rick Probstein
    Ebay Store:
    Probstein123
    phone: 973 747 6304
    email: rickprobstein1@gmail.com

    Probstein123 is actively accepting CONSIGNMENTS !!
  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just remember the only person who was told about the ACL was the e-mail to Garthman.

    Maybe you have no memory due to pain killers, you posted the E-Mail on the board. Your dad/quack diagnosed your torn ACL. image
    Don't you remember hopping to your CL finds.

    If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.” ¯ Mark Twain >>



    I was just going to post this same thing!

    Will this madness ever stop?
    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How anybody can be defending Probstein for this specific situation is beyond me. You've got a lot of Favre inserts - that were supposed to be listed individually, mind you - where the scan makes nearly all of the cards impossible to see and the specific inserts aren't actually listed in the auction. And then you've got an Elvis auction that doesn't say Elvis in it. Come on. Those are screw-ups that are in no way, shape, or form Gumby's fault. Period. And that's not even talking about the "charge a $.30 Paypal fee every time even when Paypal themselves didn't actually charge it" thing that's just a borderline scam.

    Tabe
  • Thanks Rick, your response is much appreciated. I wish you continued success
  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How anybody can be defending Probstein for this specific situation is beyond me. You've got a lot of Favre inserts - that were supposed to be listed individually, mind you - where the scan makes nearly all of the cards impossible to see and the specific inserts aren't actually listed in the auction. And then you've got an Elvis auction that doesn't say Elvis in it. Come on. Those are screw-ups that are in no way, shape, or form Gumby's fault. Period. And that's not even talking about the "charge a $.30 Paypal fee every time even when Paypal themselves didn't actually charge it" thing that's just a borderline scam.

    Tabe >>



    But yet some feel Gumby is "nitpicking" image

    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    remember people: sometimes Godzilla was clumsy, but he still destroyed buildings and humanity and then gloated about it.
  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>remember people: sometimes Godzilla was clumsy, but he still destroyed buildings and humanity and then gloated about it. >>



    You better hope Godzilla doesn't read these forums.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    nice fluff post, Rick... you did nothing to address the very real concerns that Craig detailed. Perhaps you're doing that behind the scenes; I certainly hope so.

  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>remember people: sometimes Godzilla was clumsy, but he still destroyed buildings and humanity and then gloated about it. >>



    You better hope Godzilla doesn't read these forums. >>



    I think he might as I heard it is translated into Japanese. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • nice fluff post, Rick... you did nothing to address the very real concerns that Craig detailed. Perhaps you're doing that behind the scenes; I certainly hope so.

    Maybe Sean will speak on Rick's behalf again
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    given his wealth of experience in the consignment business, maybe Sean will give Rick some hard-earned advice on how to improve customer relations
  • You act like it's a bad thing that someone is willing to speak on another person's behalf. I will continue to support Rick because he is one of the easiest people to deal with and a the consignment is a great tool for people who plan to authenticate and sell.

    I don't care to further argue with you because all the context of your posts are so negative and always have some undertone with a "shot" at me, and even when I ignore it the posts still come. You can stop the cyberstalking it's getting old very quickly and seems unhealthy that you have such an obsession with a 20 year old, after all, if you believe the things you are saying you don't seem to think much of me, so why even comment? Now you can't say I haven't asked you to stop - because I said it very clearly in the post. Stop. I don't want to hear from you, I don't want you to speak of me, enough is enough.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭


    << <i>nice fluff post, Rick... you did nothing to address the very real concerns that Craig detailed. Perhaps you're doing that behind the scenes; I certainly hope so.

    Maybe Sean will speak on Rick's behalf again >>



    Not now, he's at the doctors.

    And I have to agree with Geordie. Let's hope this is being addressed behind the scenes. Many people may not mind an extra 20 here or there but it sure adds up quickly. I know if it were me, 20 can put a third a tank of gas in my truck. To me, thats plenty enough.

    I think Rick would be wise to make up a contract spelling out EXACTLY how fees and payments are determined so when this kind of issues comes up, there is no "grey" area and you dont get threads like this nor do you get unhappy customers.

    As you all can see in my sig, I am also getting into the consignment business. My fee is a flat 77% and let me tell you, Im top notch! image
  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    It's very common for multiple card buyers to make more than one PayPal payment when buying things. There's been many posts on the forum about idiot buyers who pay for each item individually. You can't assume that every unique buyer only paid once. Gumby's also assuming that each unique buyer only bought Gumby's cards. What happens when a buyer's payment includes 2 cards from consignor Gumby cards and 1 from consignor Pokey. In Gumby's world how does the 30 cents get split up. Should it be 20-10, or 15-15, or all 30 off Gumby or Pokey. I can't imagine the accounting nightmare of making sure the 30 cents is itemized for each unique combination of purchases. It's sad that anyone would make such a big deal over nothing.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's very common for multiple card buyers to make more than one PayPal payment when buying things. There's been many posts on the forum about idiot buyers who pay for each item individually. You can't assume that every unique buyer only paid once. Gumby's also assuming that each unique buyer only bought Gumby's cards. What happens when a buyer's payment includes 2 cards from consignor Gumby cards and 1 from consignor Pokey. In Gumby's world how does the 30 cents get split up. Should it be 20-10, or 15-15, or all 30 off Gumby or Pokey. I can't imagine the accounting nightmare of making sure the 30 cents is itemized for each unique combination of purchases. It's sad that anyone would make such a big deal over nothing. >>



    Wow, I have to COMPLETELY disagree with this post. Accounting nightmare or not, if you are in this sort of business, its a necessity. It is more safe to assume that buyers of multiple purchases made one payment, not the other way around. To think that those multiple purchase buyers paid for every item separately is manipulation. So if someone consigns and sells 1000 items, 300.00 is no big deal? It sure would be to me, even if I were a millionaire.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's very common for multiple card buyers to make more than one PayPal payment when buying things. There's been many posts on the forum about idiot buyers who pay for each item individually. You can't assume that every unique buyer only paid once. Gumby's also assuming that each unique buyer only bought Gumby's cards. What happens when a buyer's payment includes 2 cards from consignor Gumby cards and 1 from consignor Pokey. In Gumby's world how does the 30 cents get split up. Should it be 20-10, or 15-15, or all 30 off Gumby or Pokey. I can't imagine the accounting nightmare of making sure the 30 cents is itemized for each unique combination of purchases. It's sad that anyone would make such a big deal over nothing. >>



    So the consignor was up front about the consignee paying a per-listing PayPal fee? If that is the case, then you are certainly correct. Now about the shoddy listing practices...


  • << <i>I'll assume the role of brown noser or lapdance man or whatever you would like to call me.

    Thanks suneel4cash! image >>



    Micon: you, Sean, and Probstein should probably go ahead hook up at the National. Kb can buy the drinks. This manlove cannot be stopped; it can only hope to be contained.



    Nice of yoda to finally check in from dagobah, but he didn't really address anything gumby was upset about--which in essence is lack of written transparency. Smaller issues may include crappy descriptions and pics.

  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    this thread has taken yet another unexpected and precipitous turn. image
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If your spouse / SO walked by while viewing the above, which would you rather them see you looking at? the cabana boy poolside love or miss jiggles picture?
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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭✭
    Miss Jiggles....because she's my wife.image
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Miss Jiggles....because she's my future x-wife.image >>




    Fixed
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I have a question, who winds up paying the taxes on all these sales?

    Are PWCC and Probstein getting the 1099k's for items that they sell for other folks?

    How exactly does that work out?


    Good for you.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
    There is a phone number to call with any questions about this thread...


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>There is a phone number to call with any questions about this thread... >>


    or about how to improve the Phillies! HAHA I HAD to get it in while I can.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There is a phone number to call with any questions about this thread... >>




    I chose not to avail myself the use of it. Hopefully that's ok with you?


    Good for you.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>There is a phone number to call with any questions about this thread... >>




    I chose not to avail myself the use of it. Hopefully that's ok with you? >>



    good idea, let someone else do the work for / or find out for you...


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...
  • Mdube16Mdube16 Posts: 744 ✭✭
    How can someone accept consignments at 18% when the are suspended from eBay?
  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    They sub-consign the consignments?
  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    To ACL Sportscards.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You act like it's a bad thing that someone is willing to speak on another person's behalf. I will continue to support Rick because he is one of the easiest people to deal with and a the consignment is a great tool for people who plan to authenticate and sell.

    I don't care to further argue with you because all the context of your posts are so negative and always have some undertone with a "shot" at me, and even when I ignore it the posts still come. You can stop the cyberstalking it's getting old very quickly and seems unhealthy that you have such an obsession with a 20 year old, after all, if you believe the things you are saying you don't seem to think much of me, so why even comment? Now you can't say I haven't asked you to stop - because I said it very clearly in the post. Stop. I don't want to hear from you, I don't want you to speak of me, enough is enough >>



    That's sig line material.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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